

The Numinous Podcast
Carmen Spagnola
The Numinous Podcast is a show about intuition, spirituality and the mystery of life. The host, Carmen Spagnola, is an intersectional witch and clinical hypnotherapist who has smart, soulful conversations with interesting people. The lineup is diverse, the topics are eclectic, and the people are down-to-earth (mostly).
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Feb 24, 2019 • 60min
TNP124 Elizabeth Brown on Dowsing + Causative Diagnosis for Optimal Health 2
Elizabeth Brown is a master dowser and author of DOWSING: The Ultimate Guide For The 21st Century. Her storied career includes the co-founding and running of a geopathic stress consultancy, she has studied with two former presidents of the British Society of dowsers, and has trained in remote viewing and more. Plus, she comes from a family lineage of water dowsers.
In this episode, Elizabeth helps us understand the history and science behind dowsing including the sometimes surprising involvement of the Catholic Church. We discuss whether pendulums are as effective as rods, and the importance of finding your niche as a dowser. (We can't all be experts at everything, right?) She also explains what a session with her entails and helps me get a sense of what's affecting my nasal congestion.

Feb 23, 2019 • 1h 4min
TNP123 Sarah Kerr on Being a Death Doula and Coping With Loss When a Pet or Plant Friend Dies
Sarah Kerr is a death doula and ritual healing practitioner. She work with dying people and their families, as well as families navigating the death of a pet, and also lectures and teaches about death care and the healing power of ritual. Sarah perviously appeared on the podcast in episode 98: Priestess, Shaman, Mystic Scapegoat.
The most incredible thing happened during the taping of this episode. Precisely what I was asking Sarah advice around happened...to her. This episode is dedicated to Sarah's deceased cat, Luna, and all those who are suffering grief over the death of a beloved animal, or tree friend, or natural landscape. Sarah generously wrote about her experience on her blog.
In this episode, we talk about the nuts and bolts of dying well, (are there things you should or shouldn't say to a dying person?), being a death doula (how do you manage your energy being in such intense environments?), and ways to honour the death of animals and trees.

Feb 23, 2019 • 1h 20min
TNP121- Alexandra Stein on Disorganized Attachment in Cults Totalitarian Regimes
How do you know if you're in a cult? And, how does an open society confront propaganda, brainwashing, and the rise of fascism? That's the undercurrent of this conversation with noted cultic studies expert, Alexandra Stein, PhD.
Alexandra Stein is a writer and educator specializing in the social psychology of ideological extremism and other dangerous social relationships. She brings an extraordinary lens to cultic studies with her attachment-based approach, which helps us understand how an average person – privileged and educated, even – can fall under the influence of a high-demand group.

Feb 23, 2019 • 55min
TNP122 Pashta MaryMoon on Accompanying the Dying Hospice Singing and Preparing for our Death
Pashta MaryMoon is a death doula, a Wiccan, a Quaker, and a longtime fan of Jesus. In fact, before we get to our conversation on death and dying, Pashta gives us a revealing tour of her early spirituality – a syncretic blend of earthy paganism, deep devotional relationship with Jesus as brother/lover/son, kinship with Mary Magdalene, and Wiccan god/goddess themes. To say she's a singular presence is understatement.
Pashta has been a compassionate radical her whole life. She is a longtime grassroots organizer including anti-nuclear activism in the '80s, and frontline support worker during the HIV/AIDS crisis in the '90s, with a current focus on death care alternatives in Canada.

Aug 24, 2018 • 1h 39min
TNP120 Tiffany Joseph on Adaptation
I'm delighted to welcome back to the podcast, Tiffany Śwxeloselwet Joseph, to talk adapting to catastrophic collapse. Tiffany tells us stories about bees, salmon, orcas and humans, and her main strategy for collapse resilience: cultivating beauty inside and out.
Go here to read and share the story of SEMSEMÍYA
Learn more about Tiffany and how you can work with her or invite her to your gathering.

Aug 18, 2018 • 1h 51min
TNP119 John Michael Greer on the Long Descent
Welcome back to the show for the sixth time, peak oil expert and author, John Michael Greer. In this episode, we're celebrating the tenth anniversary of John's seminal book, The Long Descent: A User's Guide To The End Of The Industrial Age.
John explains the concept of Catabolic Collapse, why apocalypse scenarios are problematic and the hopium of political will and green utopias just as much so. I ask him about useful viable professions in collapse scenarios and how to choose where to live. Finally, John gives us three steps for personal preparation to face the deindustrial age.
Read the full article: Peak Oil Advice From German Poets

Aug 18, 2018 • 1h 40min
TNP118 Patti Elledge on the Neurobiology of Attachment, Grieving Together, and Mobilizing Outrage
Patti Elledge is a Trauma Healing Specialist and Somatic Experiencing Practitioner with a private practice in Asheville, NC. She's my supervisor and mentor and I'm here to tell the world: I love her and I think everyone should have more Patti in their life. I want that for you. You deserve some Patti.
In this conversation, Patti explains what Attachment is, what different Attachment styles look like in babies and how that translates in adulthood, the role of Evolutionary Biology in our Attachment systems, and how we can heal attachment wounds in a world of persistent precarity, climate change, and social turmoil.
I particularly enjoyed hearing Patti's thoughts on grief, rage, and how Attachment shows up in our spiritual lives.
Here are the resources Patti noted in this interview:
Mary Main
Mary Ainsworth
John Bowlby
Joanna Macy
Peter Levine and Somatic Experiencing
Stephen Porges and the Polyvagal System (YouTube)
Allan Schore and the Good Enough Mother
Portrait Of A Marriage: Yes, It's Mine (the article mentioned that I wrote)
Learning To See In The Dark Amid Catastrophe: An Interview With Deep Ecologist Joanna Macy
Patti specializes in somatic healing techniques via organic, instinctual ways of the body and psyche, allowing for more connection with self and other and the emergence of creativity and spirituality. Patti credits her training by Peter Levine, Diane Poole Heller and Raja Selvam. She has assisted more than 40 trainings worldwide and now teaches Diane Poole Heller's pioneering work DARe, (Dynamic Attachment Re-Patterning Experience).
Patti has specialized in therapeutic application of neuroscience for 40 years and has a broad background in early development (interpersonal, social/emotional, language and cognition), sensory processing disorders, self- and co-regulatory processes and the neurobiology of stress and trauma.
While Patti's work is grounded in current day research on the neurobiology and physiology of the human stress mechanism, it is also infused with embodied intuition and a compassionate heart.
You can reach Patti at:
www.pattiatlarge.blogspot.com
https://dianepooleheller.com/teachersproviders/
https://sepractitioner.membergrove.com/member-details.php?id=1388

Aug 16, 2018 • 1h 6min
TNP117 Monique Gray Smith on the What Why How of Territorial Acknowledgements
My guest today is author, speaker and consultant, Monique Gary Smith. We're talking about Territorial Acknowledgements, a small act of Reconciliation that is spreading beyond the borders of our province and country.
When I committed a few years ago to incorporating acts of Reconciliation into my personal and professional life, I began inviting elders (of all ages) to open all of my retreats and workshops with a Territorial Acknowledgement. When I was invited to give a speech, or lead a networking event, or any kind of circle, I would also verbally acknowledged the traditional occupants of the territory, wherever I went. And if I travelled outside of my region to go on Quest or a spiritual retreat, I would reach out to the local band or tribal office to find out more about the land and the ancestors from that place.
But I only learned how to do this because my friend, Monique, guided and re-directed me again and again.
In this episode, Monique shares some ideas for how any person wanting to incorporate this small act of Reconciliation into their life or work might begin in a good way.
MoniqueGraySmith.com
Truth And Reconciliation Commission Of Canada: 94 Calls To Action

Aug 16, 2018 • 1h 41min
TNP116 Matthew Remski on Attachment High Demand Communities and Yogas Culture Of Abuse 1
In this episode, I'm thrilled to talk with Matthew Remski about how one finds oneself in a cult, how to get out, and what high demand groups have to do with social justice, climate change and collapse.
Matthew is a writer and cultural critic who published an explosive article in The Walrus called, Yoga's Culture Of Sexual Abuse: Nine Women Tell Their Stories.
Since then, I've followed Matthew and especially appreciated his real-time critique of the unravelling of the Shambala meditation community.
Resources cited in this episode include:
Alexandra Mann, Terror, Love and Brainwashing: Attachment In cults And Totalitarian Systems
Dr.Cathleen Mann
Steven Hassan
Dr.Michael Langone
This Is Not your Practice Life

Aug 11, 2018 • 47min
TNP115 Solara Goldwynn on Edible Landscapes Sustainability Climate Dread
My guest today is gardener, landscape designer, teacher of permaculture, and business owner, Solara Goldwynn of Hatchet & Seed.
Known for bringing lush, edible landscapes to forgotten private corners and under-used public spaces, Solara is not only a champion of sustainable values but I consider her a strong role model. But I also know that folks who live with such conviction also shoulder more emotional burden than most; I wanted to know how she copes with her own eco-grief and climate anxiety.
We talk about her work, what she thinks the future of the planet will look like when her daughter grows up, reconciling with having children in an age of overpopulation, and how she seeks joy in spite of these dire times.
For eco-inspiration, follow Solara and Hatchet & Seed on Instagram.