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Jul 21, 2025 โข 51min
The Monad Thesis With James Hunsaker
James Hunsaker from Monad, an expert in blockchain efficiency, navigates the complexities of decentralized exchanges. He discusses why latency and economic incentives are the real stumbling blocks for crypto adoption, rather than just transaction speeds. Hunsaker challenges conventional thinking about high-frequency trading in a blockchain context and emphasizes the need for better infrastructure to meet user demands. He also explores the economic dynamics of Layer 1 networks and critiques the integration of cryptocurrency in consumer payments.

Jul 18, 2025 โข 34min
How Wall Street Learned To Love Tokenization with Michael Sonnenshein
Michael Sonnenshein, COO of Securitize, has over 12 years of crypto experience and is at the forefront of tokenizing real-world assets. In this discussion, he reveals how Wall Street is increasingly adopting tokenization amid a growing market now valued at $25B. They explore the unique 'native' approach Securitize takes and the overlooked risks in this rush to tokenize everything. The conversation also touches on legislative shifts that could enhance the U.S.'s positioning in global crypto finance.

Jul 18, 2025 โข 2h 18min
The Signal, Boundless Mainnet Launch, Wormholeโs RWA Focus, New Chief AI Officer at Story Protocol with Tomer Weller, Shiv Shankar, Sreeram Kannan, Robinson Burkey, Declan Fox & Michaล Zajฤ c
Robinson Burkey, an expert at Wormhole specializing in blockchain interoperability, shares insights on the future of cross-chain asset transfers. He discusses the transformative potential of bridging and message passing technologies, emphasizing their role in promoting decentralized finance. Burkey highlights innovations that reduce transaction costs and enhance the security of crypto transactions. The conversation also dives into the necessity of collaboration within Web3 to unlock growth, ensuring a robust ecosystem that prioritizes financial security.

Jul 16, 2025 โข 25min
Why You Should Question Proof-of-Stake As The Default with Jon Charbonneau
Jon Charbonneau, co-founder of DBA, dives deep into the complex world of blockchain architecture. He questions the reliability of Proof-of-Stake as the default consensus mechanism and introduces Proof-of-Governance as a potential alternative. The discussion touches on security risks for Layer 1s amid token inflation, the implications of Celestia's data availability fees, and Ethereumโs ambitious plan to reduce slot times. Jon champions a rethink of fundamental blockchain design assumptions for future viability.

Jul 16, 2025 โข 1h 36min
Dormant BTC Whale Offloading Billions, Tokenization Mania, Ethereum Goes All-In on ZK and Songcoins with Karel Kubat, Michael Sonnenshein and Cooper Turley
Michael Sonnenshein, COO at Securitize, discusses the impact of a dormant Bitcoin whale offloading billions and the tokenization of real-world assets. Karel Kubat, Founder of Union, shares insights on Bitcoin's future and innovations in the ZK space. Cooper Turley, known for building SongCoins, dives into how blockchain can revolutionize music, enabling fans to invest in their favorite artists. Together, they explore the evolving landscape of crypto legislation and the exciting potential of integrating decentralized finance into everyday life.

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Jul 14, 2025 โข 53min
How Blockchain Fixes AI's Biggest Problem with Anand Iyer
Anand Iyer, an AI crypto investor entrenched in both industries, discusses the nascent world of decentralized AI. He tackles the stark contrast in fundingโ$300 billion for centralized AI versus just $1 billion for decentralized optionsโhighlighting a massive opportunity for innovation. Anand predicts the next big project could emerge from just one developer on-chain. The conversation also dives into the ethical implications of AI in personal relationships and how blockchain can enhance privacy in this evolving tech landscape.

Jul 11, 2025 โข 18min
How Programmable IP Could Save Creators From Big Tech with S.Y. Lee
The intellectual property market is a staggering $62 trillion, but defining ownership in the age of AI is a puzzle. S.Y. Lee discusses the possibilities of programmable IP and challenges traditional notions of digital ownership. Thereโs also a major fund aimed at supporting blockchain innovations in creative fields. The potential of music royalties and interactive content generated through AI are explored. Finally, the conversation delves into how cryptocurrency can empower creators and secure funding for their innovative ideas.

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Jul 10, 2025 โข 25min
The Case for a New Bitcoin Execution Layer with Eli Ben-Sasson
Eli Ben Sasson, co-founder of StarkWare, envisions Starknet as Bitcoin's execution layer by 2025. He discusses the revolutionary potential of ZK technology and how it can reshape decentralization and self-ownership. Eli delves into the importance of privacy in financial transactions and highlights the innovative projects emerging on StarkNet. He also explores Bitcoin's role in DeFi and its utility in generating yields, positioning it as a key asset for future stablecoins and institutional investments.

Jul 8, 2025 โข 36min
Why Ethereum Won Argentina's Digital Identity Battle with Diego Fernandez and RJ
Diego Fernandez, former Secretary of Innovation for Buenos Aires and founder of Quark ID, joins RJ from Lambda Class to discuss Argentina's groundbreaking use of Ethereum for digital identity. They reveal how 700,000 citizens now store government documents in crypto wallets. The conversation highlights why Ethereum is favored over private blockchains and the global scalability of the 'Trust Stack.' Listeners will learn valuable insights for other governments aiming for modern solutions to boost trust and efficiency.

Jul 7, 2025 โข 41min
How Stablecoins and DePIN Will Disrupt Everything with Santiago Santos
Santiago Santos, founder of Inversion and expert in stablecoins and decentralized infrastructure, dives into the future of finance. He argues that stablecoins will revolutionize banking by merging traditional accounts into a programmable solution. Santos discusses how DePIN networks can replace outdated banks at lower costs, while exploring tokenomics and its challenges. The conversation also touches on investment strategies in Latin America and the profound impact of AI on business, urging a shift in how we perceive cryptocurrency.