
Flex Perspectives
Welcome to Flex Perspectives, the podcast that brings the latest conversations on flexible work straight to your inbox. Listen in as we interview the thought leaders, innovators, and executives shaping the future of flexible work today. Flex Perspectives is brought to you by the Flex Index — the world’s most robust source for full-time, hybrid, and remote work requirements.
Latest episodes

Sep 20, 2024 • 42min
Redefining the Office: The Shift to Experience-Centric Spaces | Nathan Manuel
In this episode of Flex Perspectives, Rob Sadow is joined by Nathan Manuel, Co-Founder and Principal of Real Estate & Workplace Solutions at PM2. Nathan previously ran real estate and workplace for PagerDuty and MediaMath.
Join us as we discuss:
Nathan's approach to office development innovation during his 10-year tenure at MediaMath, including the buildout of 22 offices
Post-pandemic innovation in office design and functionality
Various office models and their suitability for different types of companies
Flex Perspectives is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, and YouTube.

Sep 6, 2024 • 37min
The Big Shrink: Inside the Changing Office Landscape | Francis Saele
In this episode of Flex Perspectives, Rob Sadow is joined by Francis Saele, a long-time real estate executive now Managing Principal at MorteVita, a real estate future of work consultancy.
Join us as we discuss:
The pressures that office buildings are facing with the shift toward hybrid and distributed work
The implications across geographics and for different classes of office space
How AI will continue to impact how we approach work
Flex Perspectives is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, and YouTube.

Aug 16, 2024 • 41min
Flexible Work’s Impact on Families, Careers, and Urban Spaces | Matthew Kahn
In this episode of Flex Perspectives, Rob Sadow is joined by Matthew Khan, Provost Professor of Economics at the University of Southern California and Visiting Fellow at the Hoover Institution.
Join us as we discuss:
The imperative for cities to rethink their strategies in the face of remote work
The implication of remote work for the labor force participation of working mothers
How local politics influences hybrid work policies
Flex Perspectives is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, and YouTube.

Aug 2, 2024 • 38min
How Sodexo’s Business is Evolving to Support a Hybrid Work World | Henrik Jarleskog
In this episode of Flex Perspectives, Rob Sadow is joined by Henrik Jarleskog. Henrik is an executive responsible for the Future of Work at Sodexo, one of the twenty largest employers in the world.
Join us as we discuss:
Sodexo’s journey to flexible work and how the shift towards more dynamic office usage impacted business
How Sodexo partners with and advises clients to maximize the experience of the office
Where he sees hybrid work headed in the coming years
Flex Perspectives is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, and YouTube.

Jul 12, 2024 • 45min
Beyond Square Footage: Rethinking Commercial Real Estate in the Hybrid Era | Dave Cairns
In this episode of Flex Perspectives, Rob Sadow is joined by Dave Cairns, a Future of Work strategist at Kadence and former SVP at CBRE Canada.
Join us as we discuss:
How Dave's experience as a professional poker player shaped his perspective on the future of work
The changing dynamics of real estate brokerage and office space productivity evaluation
Where we're headed with work location flexibility
Flex Perspectives is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, and YouTube.

Jun 28, 2024 • 47min
The Evolution of the Office: Blending Hospitality and Analytics | Suzanne Heidelberger
In this episode, Rob Sadow is joined by Suzanne Heidelberger. Suzanne brings extensive real estate leadership experience from her tenures at Fidelity, American Express, and Skadden Arps. She combines data-driven analysis with innovative leadership to solve business problems.
Join us as we discuss:
Hospitality and the mentality of earning the trip to the office
Leveraging your workplace as an extension of your employer brand and employee value proposition
Practical strategies to build stronger partnerships with senior leadership, HR, and IT to foster a successful hybrid work model
Flex Perspectives is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, and YouTube.

Jun 14, 2024 • 42min
Inside Atlassian's ‘State of Teams’ Report | Annie Dean
In this episode, Rob Sadow is joined by Annie Dean, Global Head of Team Anywhere at Atlassian. Annie is a globally recognized expert on remote and flexible working, having previously served as Meta’s first Director of Remote Work.
Join us as we discuss:
How our relationship with the office has evolved and the implications for real estate executives.
Atlassian’s latest State of Teams report with actionable insights on how companies can be more productive and intentional with how they spend their time.
Practical strategies to reduce wasteful meetings, increase focus time, and optimize team practices for distributed work environments.
Flex Perspectives is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, and YouTube. Check out Atlassian's State of Teams report for more insights on fostering productive and intentional work environments: https://www.atlassian.com/blog/state-of-teams-2024

May 31, 2024 • 50min
Radical Candor in a Hybrid World | Kim Scott
In this episode, Rob Sadow is joined by Kim Scott. Kim is the celebrated author of Radical Candor, which has sold more than a million copies, and the recently released Radical Respect.
Join us as we discuss:
How hybrid and distributed work influence how we engage with others in a work setting
Her personal journey to writing Radical Candor
Actionable takeaways for how to be a better executive or team member in a hybrid work setting
Flex Perspectives is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, and YouTube.

May 17, 2024 • 42min
Mastering Remote Management: Strategies from 15Five’s CEO | Jim Morrisroe
In this episode, Rob Sadow is joined by Jim Morrisroe, a seasoned leader and the CEO of 15Five, a strategic HR platform with over 4,000 customers. With over 25 years of experience in the technology industry, Jim has a proven track record in building high-growth companies and navigating successful acquisitions.
Join us as we discuss:
Jim’s challenging personal journey that led him to 15Five
Specific areas where managers need to up-level their skills to succeed in hybrid or remote organizations
How people leaders can bring better business cases to support their investment priorities
Flex Perspectives is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, and YouTube.

May 3, 2024 • 42min
The Rhythm of Collaboration | Laïla von Alvensleben
In this episode, Rob Sadow is joined by Laïla von Alvensleben. Laïla spent the past five years scaling culture and collaboration at Mural as the company grew from 100 to 1,000+ people and now consults on flexible work for startups and scaleups.
Join us as we discuss:
The application of design thinking to flexible work
How visualizing your team’s rhythm of collaboration can lead to improved flexible team culture and productivity
Applying human-centered design skills to craft impactful offsites and create spaces for team bonding
Flex Perspectives is available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, and YouTube.
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