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SummaryEnrique “Ric” Prado (LinkedIn) joins Andrew (Twitter; LinkedIn) to discuss his new memoir “Black Ops.” One of the most renowned CIA officers of his generation tells his story.BookYou can buy Ric’s book, Black Ops, and support the International Spy Museum’s mission here.What You’ll LearnIntelligence His time as CIA Counterterrorist Chief of Operations which included 9/11 His career battling communist insurgents and Islamic terrorists on multiple continents His experience living in “Contra” camps during the Nicaraguan Revolution His time as Dep. Chief of Station and co-founding member of the Bin Laden Task Force Reflections Conquering your emotions to stay focused in a crisis His journey fleeing the Cuban Revolution as a young boy to CIA via USAF Pararescue And much, much more…Episode NotesRic Prado spent twenty-four-years in the CIA – and what a twenty-four years it was. His first 36 months were in the jungles of Central America as the first CIA officer to live among the “Contras,” including a period with the Miskito Native people; indeed, the photos he took ending up on the desk of CIA Director Bill Casey. So, what was it like at the pointy end of the Reagan Doctrine’s anti-communist spear, or as CIA Counterterrorist Center Chief of Ops during 9/11?To find out, and to hear more about Ric’s storied career, Andrew sat down with him for this week’s episode. One of the meanings of the noun “legend” is “a story coming down from the past.” Many people who were in the business at the CIA and elsewhere will have heard the stories that come down from the past re Enrique “Ric” Prado, but now we all have a chance to hear Ric set the record straight in his own words. And…If Ric’s communist uncle hadn’t alerted the family that his school intended to send him off to the Soviet Union as a promising student for further education…if he hadn’t taken an Oceanography class at Miami Dade College and met someone who led him to USAF Pararescue…if he hadn’t been tipped off that he was to be killed in a Contra camp during the night and extricated himself from the situation…as Bob Dylan said, summing up so much of the human condition, “one more time, for a simple twist of fate.”Quote of the Week"The wiring was there and the mentoring from my dad…then the trip to the orphanage. And then definitely when I got into pararescue…being one of our special operations forces, the training is very, very intense…And making it through SERE school, making it through mountain climbing school. There's a certain level of conquering your emotions that you have to do…But I think that the most important thing was that I believed in what I was doing." – Ric PradoResourcesSpyCast Episodes In the CT Center on 9/11, C. Storer A Life in the CIA, Hank Crumpton Interview with Cofer Black CT, Nicholas Rasmussen CT Strategy: P. Bergen & C. Costa Rethinking CT: J. Blazakis Books The Reagan Doctrine, J. Scott (DUP, 1996)  The Real Contra War, T. Brown (UOP, 2001) Insurgency to Stability, “The Philippines,” Rabasa et al., (RAND, 2011) Shining Path’s Politics of War, C. Degregori (UWP, 2012) Red Revolution: Philippine Guerillas, G. Jones (Routeledge, 2019) The Shining Path, Starn & Serna (Norton, 2019) US Relations with Latin America (Five Books) Articles “Shining Path Leader Dead,” BBC (2021) “Nicaragua Veers to Dictatorship,” J. Cordoba, WSJ (2021) Documentaries Nicaragua Was Our Home (L. Shapiro, 1985) Ballad of the Little Soldier (W. Herzog, 1985) Primary Sources President Carter to Somoza (Brown, 1979) Reagan Covert Ops. Nicaragua (NSA, 1981) US Aid to Nicaragua (1982) Reagan Covert Ops. Nicaragua (Brown, 1983) Goldwater to Casey, “I’m Pissed Off” (Brown, 1984) Reagan State Of The Union (APP, 1985) Reagan Address Nicaragua (ReaganLib, 1986) Contras Lost Congress (WaPo, 1986) 25 Years of the NPA (Hartford, 1994)  Wildcard ResourceThe Clash, Sandanista (Album, 1980) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

SummaryLoch Johnson (Website, LinkedIn) joins Andrew (Twitter; LinkedIn) to discuss covert action aka “The Third Option.” He is the author of over 30 books on intelligence.What You’ll LearnIntelligence What is covert action Four types of covert action Foreign policy options: “War Power,” “Treaty Power,” and “Spy Power.”  Examples of CA: Guatemala (1954), Indochina (1965), Afghanistan (2001), Iran (2020) Reflections Accountability The value of learning from past mistakes  And much, much more …Episode NotesThere is perhaps no better guest to join Andrew in this week’s exploration of covert action than Professor Emeritus at the University of Georgia Loch Johnson. Loch’s latest book, The Third Option: Covert Action and American Foreign Policy, examines the history of the complicated and sometimes controversial usage of covert action by the U.S. international affairs. Loch’s decades-long career in foreign policy and intelligence has brought him to the forefront of some of the most seminal moments within US intelligence reform: he served as special assistant to the chair of the Church Committee, staff director of the House Subcommittee on Intelligence Oversight, and worked directly with the chair of the Aspin-Brown Commission.In this two-part episode of SpyCast, Andrew and Loch unpack what makes a covert action operation successful, and how we can learn from intelligence failures and past mistakes. And… How many people have a society named after them? Loch does! Quote of the Week"History doesn't like to be shaped, it has a power all of its own, but we try to shape it at least at the margins, and we do that through covert action, sometimes called the third option…and it really comes in four packages. Package number one is propaganda… And then comes political covert actions…Thirdly is economic covert action…And then fourthly, and most dramatically, are paramilitary operations. These are war-like activities." – Loch Johnson.Resources SURFACE SKIM *Featured Resource*  The Third Option, L. Johnson (Oxford, 2022) *Beginner Resources* Covert Action, E. Rosenbach & A. Peritz, Belfer Center (2009) [Background Memo] Looking back at the Church Committee, National Constitution Center (2019) [Blog Post] The Iran-Contra Affair, B. Craig, The Miller Center (2017) [Article]  *SpyCasts* The Spymaster’s Prism: CIA Legend Jack Devine (2021) First Casualty: Inside the CIA Mission to Avenge 9/11 (2021) Author Debriefing: The Art of Intelligence: Lessons from a Life in the CIA’s Clandestine Service (2012) DEEPER DIVEBooks A Covert Action: Reagan, the CIA and Poland, S. Jones (W.W. Norton, 2018) The Church Committee Confronts America's Spy Agencies, L. Johnson (UP of Kentucky, 2015) The Brilliant Disaster: JFK, Castro, and the Bay of Pigs, J. Rasenberger (Scribner, 2012) Executive Secrets: Covert Action and the Presidency, W. Daugherty (UP of Kentucky, 2006) Covert Action, G. Treverton (1987) Articles The Disturbing Story Of The Heart Attack Gun Invented By The CIA During The Cold War, M. Dunn, All That’s Interesting (2022) Video Iran-Contra: Reagan’s Scandal and the Unchecked Abuse of Presidential Power, US National Archives (2015)  ‘Covert Action’ By U.S. To Assist Ukraine Could Be In Play, MSNBC News (2022)  Primary Sources  Commission on the U.S. Intelligence Community (1994-1996) Senate Select Committee with Respect to Intelligence Activities (1976) “Huge C.I.A. Operation Reported in U.S. against Antiwar Forces," S. Hersh, NYT (1974) FBI Records: COINTELPRO (1956-1971) Note on U.S. Covert Actions *Wildcard Resource* A 90s cartoon, evil beings threaten humanity, only the Wild C.A.T.s can save them: i.e., Covert Action Teams! “Covert action” as a concept has become part of the entertainment industry Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

SummaryLoch Johnson (Website, LinkedIn) joins Andrew (Twitter; LinkedIn) to discuss covert action aka “The Third Option.” He is the author of over 30 books on intelligence.What You’ll LearnIntelligence What is covert action Four types of covert action Foreign policy options: “War Power,” “Treaty Power,” and “Spy Power.”  Examples of CA: Guatemala (1954), Indochina (1965), Afghanistan (2001), Iran (2020) Reflections Accountability The value of learning from past mistakes  And much, much more …Episode NotesThere is perhaps no better guest to join Andrew in this week’s exploration of covert action than Professor Emeritus at the University of Georgia Loch Johnson. Loch’s latest book, The Third Option: Covert Action and American Foreign Policy, examines the history of the complicated and sometimes controversial usage of covert action by the U.S. international affairs. Loch’s decades-long career in foreign policy and intelligence has brought him to the forefront of some of the most seminal moments within US intelligence reform: he served as special assistant to the chair of the Church Committee, staff director of the House Subcommittee on Intelligence Oversight, and worked directly with the chair of the Aspin-Brown Commission.In this two-part episode of SpyCast, Andrew and Loch unpack what makes a covert action operation successful, and how we can learn from intelligence failures and past mistakes. And… How many people have a society named after them? Loch does! Quote of the Week"History doesn't like to be shaped, it has a power all of its own, but we try to shape it at least at the margins, and we do that through covert action, sometimes called the third option…and it really comes in four packages. Package number one is propaganda… And then comes political covert actions…Thirdly is economic covert action…And then fourthly, and most dramatically, are paramilitary operations. These are war-like activities." – Loch Johnson.Resources SURFACE SKIM *Featured Resource*  The Third Option, L. Johnson (Oxford, 2022) *Beginner Resources* Covert Action, E. Rosenbach & A. Peritz, Belfer Center (2009) [Background Memo] Looking back at the Church Committee, National Constitution Center (2019) [Blog Post] The Iran-Contra Affair, B. Craig, The Miller Center (2017) [Article]  *SpyCasts* The Spymaster’s Prism: CIA Legend Jack Devine (2021) First Casualty: Inside the CIA Mission to Avenge 9/11 (2021) Author Debriefing: The Art of Intelligence: Lessons from a Life in the CIA’s Clandestine Service (2012) DEEPER DIVEBooks A Covert Action: Reagan, the CIA and Poland, S. Jones (W.W. Norton, 2018) The Church Committee Confronts America's Spy Agencies, L. Johnson (UP of Kentucky, 2015) The Brilliant Disaster: JFK, Castro, and the Bay of Pigs, J. Rasenberger (Scribner, 2012) Executive Secrets: Covert Action and the Presidency, W. Daugherty (UP of Kentucky, 2006) Covert Action, G. Treverton (1987) Articles The Disturbing Story Of The Heart Attack Gun Invented By The CIA During The Cold War, M. Dunn, All That’s Interesting (2022) Video Iran-Contra: Reagan’s Scandal and the Unchecked Abuse of Presidential Power, US National Archives (2015)  ‘Covert Action’ By U.S. To Assist Ukraine Could Be In Play, MSNBC News (2022)  Primary Sources  Commission on the U.S. Intelligence Community (1994-1996) Senate Select Committee with Respect to Intelligence Activities (1976) “Huge C.I.A. Operation Reported in U.S. against Antiwar Forces," S. Hersh, NYT (1974) FBI Records: COINTELPRO (1956-1971) Note on U.S. Covert Actions *Wildcard Resource* A 90s cartoon, evil beings threaten humanity, only the Wild C.A.T.s can save them: i.e., Covert Action Teams! “Covert action” as a concept has become part of the entertainment industry Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

SummaryJohn Mullen (LinkedIn) joins Andrew (Twitter; LinkedIn) to discuss his life and career. He was awarded the Distinguished Intelligence Medal.  What You’ll LearnIntelligence How John was recruited  Life as an adrenaline addict in the CIA Case officers vs. entrepreneurs How China spies on corporate America  Reflections Atlantic vs. Pacific outlook Quantum And much, much more…Episode NotesThe Pacific Theater of WWII was imprinted on John Mullen as a young boy. He grew up in Seattle on the West Coast and had family members who remembered Boeing factories under camouflaged nets. He had two family members who were killed in that theater in the 1940s. John went on to have a stellar CIA career - but one that always had an eye to the East. He went on the become the Assistant Director for Asia and the Pacific, leading all clandestine activity across this huge region, and spent time as a CIA Station Chief in the Far East. He has since co-founded his own firm and is currently engaged in protecting innovation at Strider Technologies as an Executive Vice President. Ever wondered what it’d be like to join the CIA or to leave it to work in corporate America? I have a feeling John might be able to help…And…Business intelligence, competitive intelligence, product intelligence, workforce intelligence: in case you haven’t noticed – intel is everywhere these days! Quote of the WeekHonestly, in my 30 years, at CIA, there were probably less than two handfuls of days. I woke up and wasn't excited about going to work. – John Mullen.ResourcesSURFACE SKIM*Andrew’s Recommendation*The Pacific War, WELT (2021) [documentary]*Beginner Resources* What We Know About China’s Spy Agency, Bloomberg (2019) [4 min video] Start Ups Backed by the CIA and Pentagon, CB Insights (2016) [short web article] Brian Cox Explains Quantum Mechanics in 60 secs, BBC, (2014) [60 sec video] DEEPER DIVE*SpyCasts* CIA Case Officer, Cyber Entrepreneur, Burning Man Volunteer with Mike Susong, Part 1 (2022) CIA Case Officer, Cyber Entrepreneur, Burning Man Volunteer with Mike Susong, Part 2 (2022) From the CIA to Strategic Cyber with Hans Holmer (2022) My Global Career as a Female FBI Agent with Kathy Stearman (2021) Books China Unbound: A New World Disorder, J. Chiu (House of Anansi Press, 2021) Quantum Computing for Everyone, C. Berhardt (MIT, 2020) Chinese Espionage Operations and Tactics, N. Eftimiades (Vitruvian Press, 2020) Spies for Nimitz: Joint Military Intelligence in the Pacific War, J. Moore (Naval Institute Press, 2004) In Search of Schrödinger's Cat: Quantum Physics and Reality, J. Gribbin (Bantam Books, 1984) Articles Chinese intelligence officer sentenced to 20 years in prison in espionage case, R. Legare, CBS News (2022) The World-Changing Race to Develop the Quantum Computer, S. Witt, The New Yorker (2022) Paradigm Shift: China’s State Capitalism Is Not Colliding With Its Technological Ambitions, Strider (2021) Video Made in Beijing: The Plan for Global Market Domination, FBI (2022) China's New Quantum Computing Breakthrough Shocks American Scientists, YouTube (2022) Seattle’s Waterway to the World, YouTube (2017) Primary Sources Indo-Pacific Strategy of the United States (2022) The Information War in the Pacific, 1945, J. Williams (2002) The Art of China Watching, G. Solin (1996) *Wildcard Resource*The American Battle Monuments Commission maintains 26 military cemeteries and memorials in 17 different foreign countries around the world that honor Americans that served in World War I and World War II. If you have a family member buried abroad, you can utilize ABMC’s Burial Search to locate their records.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

SummaryHenry Schlesinger (Rare Bird Books) joins Andrew (Twitter; LinkedIn) to discuss two of the most mysterious and alluring forces in human history: sex and spying. He is a journalist and author proudly based out of NYC. What You’ll LearnIntelligence The impact of sexpionage on history  Debunking common “honey trap” myths  Examples of weaponized seduction and leveraged love  Cyber honey traps and digital sexpionage Reflections Psychological implications of love and lies The relationship between pop culture myths and historical truth  And much, much more …Episode NotesSex. Espionage. Sometimes they both overlap by accident...but sometimes it's entirely intentional. From Samson and Delilah in the Bible to the Profumo Affair that rocked British society in the 1960’s, they are a heady and dramatic combination.But how is sex used in modern espionage? How do the professionals combine them, if indeed they do? What myths surround the use of both? How have men and women used sex and seduction to spy? To answer these questions and more, Andrew sat down with Henry Schlesinger to discuss his newest book, Honey Trapped: Sex, Betrayal, and Weaponized Love, which explores the fascinating relationship between sex and spying. And… You know about Benjamin Franklin in Paris as a “bon vivant, wily diplomat and aging lion,” but read Henry’s article about him as the “Founding Forger” engaged in disinformation and fake news during the Revolution!Quote of the Week“The thing about espionage is that it encompasses the best in human beings and the worst and everything in between.” – Henry Schlesinger.Resources SURFACE SKIM*Andrew’s Recommendation* “Security Implications of Polygraph Derived Homesexual Fantasies” See how much social mores have changed since 1985 *Featured Resource* Honey Trapped: Sex, Betrayal, and Love, Henry R. Schlesinger (Rare Bird, 2022)*Beginner Resources* The Stasi Spies Who Traded Sex for Secrets, Oliver Moody, The Times (2022) [Article]  Romeo Spies, CIA (2018) [Article] The Brilliant MI6 Spy Who Perfected the Art of the ‘Honey Trap’, Hadley Meares, Atlas Obscura (2017) [Article] The History of the Honey Trap, Philip Knightly, Foreign Policy (2010) [Article] DEEPER DIVE*SpyCasts* Mata Hari, The Spy with Dr. Julie Wheelwright (2019) Sexpionage with H. Keith Melton (2009)  *Books* The Last Goodnight: A World War II Story of Espionage, & Betrayal, H. Blum (Harper, 2017) In the Garden of Beasts, E. Larson (Crown, 2011) Stalin's Romeo Spy, E. Draitser (Northwestern, 2010) Femme Fatale: Love, Lies, and Mata Hari, P. Shipman (Harper, 2008) *Articles* MEA staffer ‘honey trapped’: What’s the role of sex in spying?, A. Bhaskar, The Indian Express (2022) The making of an iconic image: Christine Keeler, 1963, Victoria and Albert Museum (n.d.) Christine Keeler obituary: the woman at the heart of the Profumo affair, P. Sanford, The Guardian (2017) The Honeytrap That Ensnared One Marine in a Sexpionage Case, C. Burgess, ClearanceJobs (2022) How to Use Sex Like a Russian Spy, P. Sullivan, Foreign Policy (2010) *Video* Spy History: King Goujian and the Boiled Seeds (2021) [Short Story] Spies & Spymasters Happy Hour | Soviet Romeo Spy Dmitri Bystrolyotov (2020) [SPY Program] The Spy Who Loved Me: When East German Spies Broke Hearts In The Cold War (2017) [Documentary] *Primary Sources* Delilah Betrays Samson, Judges 16, The Bible Sexpionage: Why We Can't Resist Those KGB Sirens, M. Dobbs, The Washington Post (1987) CIA Cover Exposed in Ghana, S. Meddis, USA Today (1985) Spying Casts Shadow Over Talks, R. Beeston & B. Gertz, The Washington Times (1987) Soviets Still Employed at Embassy in Moscow, B. Gertz, The Washington Times (1987) Testimony of George Karlin aka Yuri Krotkov (1969) *Wildcard Resource* From Russia With Love (1963)  Bond: Honey Trapped or Honey Trapper? A little bit of both!  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

SummaryBryan Vorndran (Website, LinkedIn) joins Andrew (Twitter; LinkedIn) to discuss how the FBI has adapted to the digital age. As Bryan says, “We are not your grandparents FBI.”What You’ll LearnIntelligence The evolution of the FBI and cyber  Weakening cyber adversaries  Motivations behind creating and distributing malware How to keep your information safe from cyber attacks Reflections Adapting to change within the intelligence field The value of a passionate and committed team And much, much more…Episode NotesWhen Bryan Vorndran attended the FBI Academy in 2003, cyber was not on his personal radar, nor was it on Quantico’s vigorous training schedule. Now, almost 20 years later, Bryan serves as the Assistant Director of the FBI’s Cyber Division. What changed in those 20 years to bring Bryan to the forefront of the cyber battlefield, and how have the tactics and strategies used in this used in this field evolved alongside the ever-changing face of cyber? Tune into this week’s SpyCast episode to find out! The FBI has historically been associated with law enforcement and criminal justice. How does cyber fit into this world, and what is the FBI’s strategy for defending the country against cyber adversaries? And…Check out the FBI Cyber's Most Wanted list. A look through the details on each of these wanted posters can give you a better idea of the vast array of cyber-crimes committed around the world. Quotes of the Week“We will not arrest our way out of the ransomware problem. We are not going to arrest our way out of the Russia China Nation state cyber vector problem. Right? It's just not going to happen. But again, national tool power is something we will always do, but there has to be a way to degrade the ecosystem to make their life more challenging.” – Bryan Vordran.Resources*SpyCasts* Sure, I Can Hack Your Organization – with Eric Escobar, Part 1 (2022) Sure, I Can Hack Your Organization – with Eric Escobar, Part 2 (2022) From the CIA to Strategic Cyber - with Hans Holmer (2022) CIA Case Officer, Cyber Entrepreneur, Burning Man Volunteer – with Mike Susong (2022) Cyberattacks, Espionage & Ransomware – Inside Microsoft’s MSTIC (2021) The Cyber Zeitgeist – Cyberwire Host Dave Bittner (2021) *Beginner Resources* What is cybersecurity?, IBM (n.d.) [Article] How does Malware Work?, Peter Baltazar, Malware Fox (2021) [Article] Director Wray on FBI Cyber Strategy, FBI (2020) Books Dark Territory: The Secret History of Cyber War, Fred Kaplan (Simon & Schuster, 2017)  Spam Nation: The Inside Story of Organized Cybercrime, Brian Krebs (Sourcebooks, 2015)  DarkMarket: How Hackers Became the New Mafia, Misha Glenny (Vintage, 2012) The FBI: A History, Rhodri Jefferys-Jones (Yale, 2007) Articles FBI: Beware of Cyber-Threat from Russian Hacktivists, Phil Muncaster, Info Security (2022) Web shell attacks continue to rise, Microsoft Security (2021) Thingbots: The Future of Botnets in the Internet of Things, Paul Sabanal, Security Intelligence (2016) Video Inside the FBI: Decoding the Cyber Threat (2022) Made in Beijing: The Plan for Global Market Domination (2022) FBI Oregon Cyber Jobs: Cyber Special Agent (2022) Life on an FBI Cyber Squad (2020)  The Evolving Attack Surface (2020) Primary Sources  Oversight of the FBI Cyber Division (2022) Sodinokibi/REvil Ransomware Defendant Extradited to United States and Arraigned in Texas (2021)  Bryan A. Vorndran Named Assistant Director of the FBI Cyber Division (2021) The FBI’s Role in Cyber Security (2014) *Wildcard Resource*Quiz: Test your knowledge of the FBI in pop culture! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

SummaryBrian Vorndran (Website, LinkedIn) joins Andrew (Twitter; LinkedIn) to discuss how the FBI has adapted to the digital age. As Brian says, “We are not your grandparents FBI.”What You’ll LearnIntelligence The evolution of the FBI and cyber  Weakening cyber adversaries  Motivations behind creating and distributing malware How to keep your information safe from cyber attacks Reflections Adapting to change within the intelligence field The value of a passionate and committed team And much, much more…Episode NotesWhen Brian Vorndran attended the FBI Academy in 2003, cyber was not on his personal radar, nor was it on Quantico’s vigorous training schedule. Now, almost 20 years later, Brian serves as the Assistant Director of the FBI’s Cyber Division. What changed in those 20 years to bring Brian to the forefront of the cyber battlefield, and how have the tactics and strategies used in this used in this field evolved alongside the ever-changing face of cyber? Tune into this week’s SpyCast episode to find out! The FBI has historically been associated with law enforcement and criminal justice. How does cyber fit into this world, and what is the FBI’s strategy for defending the country against cyber adversaries? And…Check out the FBI Cyber's Most Wanted list. A look through the details on each of these wanted posters can give you a better idea of the vast array of cyber-crimes committed around the world. Quotes of the Week“We will not arrest our way out of the ransomware problem. We are not going to arrest our way out of the Russia China Nation state cyber vector problem. Right? It's just not going to happen. But again, national tool power is something we will always do, but there has to be a way to degrade the ecosystem to make their life more challenging.” – Bryan Vordran.Resources*SpyCasts* Sure, I Can Hack Your Organization – with Eric Escobar, Part 1 (2022) Sure, I Can Hack Your Organization – with Eric Escobar, Part 2 (2022) From the CIA to Strategic Cyber - with Hans Holmer (2022) CIA Case Officer, Cyber Entrepreneur, Burning Man Volunteer – with Mike Susong (2022) Cyberattacks, Espionage & Ransomware – Inside Microsoft’s MSTIC (2021) The Cyber Zeitgeist – Cyberwire Host Dave Bittner (2021) *Beginner Resources* What is cybersecurity?, IBM (n.d.) [Article] How does Malware Work?, Peter Baltazar, Malware Fox (2021) [Article] Director Wray on FBI Cyber Strategy, FBI (2020) Books Dark Territory: The Secret History of Cyber War, Fred Kaplan (Simon & Schuster, 2017)  Spam Nation: The Inside Story of Organized Cybercrime, Brian Krebs (Sourcebooks, 2015)  DarkMarket: How Hackers Became the New Mafia, Misha Glenny (Vintage, 2012) The FBI: A History, Rhodri Jefferys-Jones (Yale, 2007) Articles FBI: Beware of Cyber-Threat from Russian Hacktivists, Phil Muncaster, Info Security (2022) Web shell attacks continue to rise, Microsoft Security (2021) Thingbots: The Future of Botnets in the Internet of Things, Paul Sabanal, Security Intelligence (2016) Video Inside the FBI: Decoding the Cyber Threat (2022) Made in Beijing: The Plan for Global Market Domination (2022) FBI Oregon Cyber Jobs: Cyber Special Agent (2022) Life on an FBI Cyber Squad (2020)  The Evolving Attack Surface (2020) Primary Sources  Oversight of the FBI Cyber Division (2022) Sodinokibi/REvil Ransomware Defendant Extradited to United States and Arraigned in Texas (2021)  Bryan A. Vorndran Named Assistant Director of the FBI Cyber Division (2021) The FBI’s Role in Cyber Security (2014) *Wildcard Resource*Quiz: Test your knowledge of the FBI in pop culture! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

SummaryAynne Kokas (LinkedIn; Twitter) joins Andrew (Twitter; LinkedIn) to discuss her book "Trafficking Data: How China is Winning the Battle for Digital Sovereignty." Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

SummaryBob Sutton (LinkedIn; Twitter) joins Andrew (Twitter; LinkedIn) to discuss the mysterious intelligence site P.O. Box 1142. High-value Nazis were interrogated here during WWII.What You’ll LearnIntelligence The interrogation of top Nazis for intelligence  The analysis of literally tons of captured German documents  Refining ways to escape and evade Nazis in German occupied Europe The importance of intelligence on the German Army’s Order of Battle  Reflections The National Park Service & History Politicizing Interpretation And much, much more…Episode NotesThis week’s guest is the former Chief Historian of the National Park Service, Bob Sutton, and what a wonderful conversation we had.His book, Nazis on the Potomac: The Top-Secret Intelligence Operation that Helped Win WWII, tells the story of military intelligence facility P.O. Box 1142 – present day Fort Hunt, around 15 miles south of Washington DC.It was here, between 1942-1945, that around three and a half thousand high level German prisoners were interrogated, captured documents analyzed, and ways to help Americans escape and evade Nazis in occupied Europe studied.This story is particularly incredible, because many of the interrogators were German born Jews.This story was almost lost to history, but thankfully because of the NPS and Bob Sutton, it never will be.[Conflict of interest disclosure, Andrew has an “America the Beautiful” Annual Pass].And…John W. Kluge arrived in the United States from Germany not speaking a word of English in 1922. He was 8 years old. He would go on to be the head of the Military Intelligence Research Section (MIRS) at P.O. Box 1142. After the war, he would go on to become the richest man in the United States. He was so appreciative of America, that he provided funds to Columbia University and The Library Congress to provide opportunities to future students and scholars. Andrew is a former John W. Kluge Fellow at the Library of Congress and therefore a direct recipient of his philanthropy for which he is grateful.Quote of the Week"Doing what we did at Fort Hunt is actually fairly unusual, where we didn't know the story. We were able to locate people, we were able to get money, we could actually interview everybody that we found…That's relatively unusual." – Bob SuttonResourcesSURFACE SKIM *Andrew’s Recommendation* Oral History Interview with John W. Kluge, NPS Some fascinating budgets on how his time in intelligence informed his business practices *Featured Resource* Nazis on the Potomac: The Top-Secret Intelligence Operation that Helped Win WWII, B. Sutton (Casemate, 2022)  *Beginner Resources* POWs and Intel at Fort Hunt in WWII, NPS (n.d.) [web article] P.O. Box 1142, Top Secret Heroes, YouTube [3 min video] History Series (GS-0170) Federal Jobs, [career article] DEEPER DIVE *SpyCasts* “The Beverley Hills Spy” – with Seth Abramovich (2022) Books Richie Boy Secrets, B. Eddy (Stackpole, 2021) Escape and Evasion, P. Froom (Schiffer, 2015) The History of Camp Tracy, A. Corbin (Zeidon, 2009) Articles P.O. Box 1142, The Mysterious WWII Installation, SOF (2022) MIS-X: Escape and Evasion in WWII, N. Nix, Patch (2011) Moving Image Fort Hunt Up to WWII, R. Sutton, C-SPAN (2022) Richie Boys, 60 Minutes (2022) The New Americans: The Immigrants who Served, U.S. Holocaust Museum (2020) Primary Sources “Red Book”: Order of Battle of the German Army (1945) Oral Sources Oral History Interview with Rudolph Pins (2006) Oral History Interview with Silvio Bedini (2007)  Oral History Interview with Paul Fairbrook (2008) Oral History Collections Fort Hunt Oral History Project, P.O. Box 1142 *Wildcard Resource* H. Res. 753 A Resolution on P.O. Box 1142 from the 110th Congress “Whereas” is utilized to great effect to tell the story with great aplomb!  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

SummaryRyan Zimmerman (MLB Stats; Wikipedia) and Marc Polymeropoulos (Twitter; LinkedIn) join Andrew to discuss intelligence and America’s pastime. From the SpyCast Field of Dreams.What You’ll LearnIntelligence Sign-stealing and codebreaking Glue guys and teamwork Ethics in baseball and espionage Clutch and pinch hitters in espionage and baseball Reflections Daring to fail Stepping up to the plate of life And much, much more…Episode NotesBuy me some peanuts and crackerjack. Few things in the world compare to sitting back, putting your feet up, and cracking open a cold one while watching the World Series. For the 2021 World Series Marc joined us for a fantastic discussion on the links between baseball and espionage. How do we top that? A baseball fanatic ex-CIA officer? Why, how about getting a first-round draft pick, World Series Champion with over 6500 at-bats? Done! Enter Ryan Zimmerman, Mr. National! Ever wondered about signs-stealing, how to run a baseball counterintelligence operation, or what some of the many, many links are between baseball and espionage? You’ve come to the right place for a discussion that goes to the bottom of the ninth inning over a two-episode conversation.Ryan played for the Nationals from 2005, when he was a first-round draft pick, through to 2021, when his #11 jersey was retired. He is an ex- All-Star, Silver Slugger, Gold Glove winner, and 2019 World Series Champion. Marc is a highly decorated former CIA operations officer who specialized in counterterrorism, the Middle East, and South Asia. Prior to his retirement, he served at CIA headquarters in charge of clandestine operations in Europe and Eurasia. He is the author of the 2021 book, “Clarity in Crisis: Leadership Lessons from the CIA.”And…“Big Data” is upending many fields, not least baseball and espionage. Gaining a competitive edge is central to both activities, the big argument is about how much “soul” is lost along the way. The Houston Astros have been a lighting-rod team, whose “smart and modern” or “cold and cynical” approach has been discussed at Penn's Wharton School of Business and in the pages of the Harvard Business Review. Quotes of the Week"I think “Dare to Fail” is enormous. I would want you to put me up at the bases load in the bottom of the ninth. I'll take it every single time. Even if I feel like I have zero chance, I want to be there." - Ryan Zimmerman"You know, you have to have that mentality in these professions." - Marc PolymeropoulosResources*Andrew’s Recommendation* Moneyball, M. Lewis (W.W. Norton, 2004) Love it or hate it, this is the first port of call for any reckoning of baseball and analytics.  *SpyCasts* “Baseball & Espionage” – with Marc Polymeropoulos (2021)*Beginner Resources* Spy Agencies Struggling in Age of Big Data, A. Zegart, Wired (2022) [article] Baseball Analytics for the Casual Fan, Simple Sabermetrics (2020) [7 min video] Beginners Guide to Baseball Analytics, N. Allen, Fansided (2018) [article] Best Baseball Analytics Resources, Simple Sabermetrics (2022) Books Spies, Lies and Algorithms, A. Zegart (PUP, 2022) The Catcher Was a Spy: Moe Berg, N. Dawidoff (Pantheon, 1994) Articles Baseball and Cybersecurity, S. Handler, Atlantic Council (2020) Baseball’s Rude Welcome to Age of Cyberespionage, N. Paine, 538 (2015) The Man Who Remade Basketball, M. McCluskey, Wired (2014) Baseball on Exhibit: Musuems in the SABR Era, Z. Jendro, SABR (2011) Video Lessons from the CIA’s Analytic Front-Lines, B. Pease, JHU (2022) Sabermetrics 101: Baseball Analytics, A. Andres, Talks at Google (2016) CIA’s Chief Information Officer - Advanced Analytics, D. Wolfe, O’Reilly (2015) Primary Sources The PC Goes to Bat (1984)*Wildcard Resource*Get “Analytics Certification” from the Society for American Baseball Research (SABR) - which is where the term “sabermetrics” comes from! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices