

The Gray Area with Sean Illing
Vox
The Gray Area with Sean Illing takes a philosophy-minded look at culture, technology, politics, and the world of ideas. Each week, we invite a guest to explore a question or topic that matters. From the the state of democracy, to the struggle with depression and anxiety, to the nature of identity in the digital age, each episode looks for nuance and honesty in the most important conversations of our time. New episodes drop every Monday. From the Vox Media Podcast Network.
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Dec 22, 2022 • 60min
Best of: America's philosophy, with Cornel West
Cornel West, a prominent author and professor of philosophy, dives into the essence of American pragmatism, reflecting on its deep roots and significance. He discusses the interplay between knowledge and action, emphasizing how this philosophy can revitalize democratic life. The conversation touches on the influences of major thinkers like William James and John Dewey, as well as the importance of community and lived experiences in shaping our understanding of truth. West also explores themes of moral dilemmas and resilience in contemporary society, invoking the necessity of collective action.

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Dec 19, 2022 • 54min
Best of: The necessity — and danger — of free speech
Margaret Sullivan, a media columnist for The Washington Post and former public editor of The New York Times, dives into the complex relationship between free speech and democracy. She discusses the potential dangers of misinformation and authoritarianism and the role of media in fostering or undermining democratic values. Sullivan highlights the need for media literacy and the revival of local journalism, while reflecting on the impact of the January 6th hearings and the evolving challenges to free speech in today's polarized landscape.

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Dec 15, 2022 • 57min
The church of celebrity
In this engaging conversation, Katelyn Beaty, author of "Celebrities for Jesus" and former managing editor at Christianity Today, dives into the intersection of celebrity culture and evangelicalism. She uncovers how figures like Billy Graham shaped the church's celebrity landscape and the ethical dilemmas this trend creates. Beaty sheds light on the emotional complexities of celebrity influence, the experience of loneliness among public figures, and the evolving quest for community outside traditional religion. A compelling exploration of faith in a fame-obsessed world!

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Dec 12, 2022 • 56min
Men and boys are struggling. Should we care?
Richard V. Reeves, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution and author of "Of Boys and Men," dives into the modern struggles faced by boys and men. He explores the educational and economic disparities causing men to lag behind women and the impact of evolving gender roles on young men. Reeves emphasizes the need for redefining masculinity, highlighting how support for better fatherhood and positive male role models can counteract negative stereotypes. His insights advocate for a balanced approach to gender equality that benefits everyone.

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Dec 8, 2022 • 46min
The power of attention in a world of distraction
L. Michael Sacasas, an author and teacher focusing on technology's societal effects, delves into the critical theme of attention. He highlights the moral significance of attentiveness in a distraction-heavy digital age, referencing thinkers like Simone Weil and Nicholas Carr. The conversation addresses how technology hampers genuine human connections and exacerbates isolation. Sacasas emphasizes the need for mindfulness, patience, and the reclaiming of our focus to cultivate meaningful relationships in today’s fragmented world.

Dec 5, 2022 • 54min
A veteran reporter on how to fix the news
In a compelling discussion, James Fallows, a veteran journalist at The Atlantic, delves into the troubling state of political journalism and its impact on democracy. He explores how the decline of local news contributes to misinformation and public distrust. Fallows critiques the trend of 'both sides-ism' and emphasizes the need for nuanced reporting. He also shares innovative solutions to rejuvenate local journalism and highlights the importance of understanding the complexities of America's political divide for better community engagement.

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Dec 1, 2022 • 51min
The end of social media
Ian Bogost, a technology writer and professor, dives into the chaotic transformation of social media, particularly under Elon Musk's leadership at Twitter. They explore the alarming shift from genuine connections to a superficial broadcast culture. The discussion includes the duality of social media’s impact on relationships and public discourse, the rise of influencer culture, and the societal challenges posed by digital connectivity. Lastly, they contemplate whether platforms like Twitter should be treated as public utilities, calling for a collective rethink on social media use.

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Nov 28, 2022 • 56min
If society is making us sick, how can we heal?
Dr. Gabor Maté, a renowned physician and bestselling author, delves into the connections between trauma, health, and societal influences. He critiques the Western health model's separation of emotional and physical well-being. Their captivating chat covers the emotional roots of physical conditions, the nuanced effects of trauma, and the need for holistic healthcare. Maté also explores the therapeutic potential of psychedelics and the importance of conscious parenting in breaking cycles of trauma. This discussion offers profound insights into healing and wellness.

Nov 21, 2022 • 55min
The free-market century is over
J. Bradford DeLong, an economics professor at UC Berkeley and author of "Slouching Towards Utopia," explores the evolution of economic systems and social change. He discusses how the long 20th century shaped modern life, emphasizing the impact of technological growth and globalization. DeLong highlights the achievements of social democracy and critiques the rise of neoliberalism post-1970s. He reflects on the implications of the 2008 Great Recession, arguing for a renewed focus on state intervention to address inequalities and ethical market practices.

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Nov 17, 2022 • 43min
Your identity is a story you tell yourself
Gregory Berns, a neuroscientist and author, challenges the notion of a unified self. He suggests our identities are fluid stories, shaped by experiences and perceptions over time. The discussion dives into how psychedelics can shift self-perception and challenge habitual thinking, impacting our narrative. Berns also explores the brain's complexities and how our identity is influenced by social contexts and technology. Ultimately, he encourages listeners to embrace the evolving nature of their selves for deeper understanding.


