
The Esau McCaulley Podcast
The Esau McCaulley Podcast looks to find God in the midst of culture. Each week, Esau will bring together friends, scholars, artists, and writers to unpack the cultural stories that shape our lives and discuss how these stories point us back to God’s presence in the world. Whether it's literature, sports, movies, music, or politics, Esau and his guests will explore how culture reflects both human creativity and our deepest longings. They’ll also challenge the notion that spirituality and culture are at odds by showing how faith can inform our engagement with the world around us. The Esau McCaulley Podcast wants to help the church move beyond the walls of the sanctuary to meet real people where they are, in this beautiful, complex world God has made, and find the space where truth and goodness meet.
Latest episodes

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Feb 6, 2025 • 46min
The Anti-Greed Gospel: Money, Racism, and the Church
Join historian Malcolm Foley, an expert on racial violence, as he dives into the complex ties between money and racism. He argues that greed, rather than just hate, fuels racial injustices, uncovering the economic motives behind historical lynchings. The conversation explores the church's potential for fostering true social engagement and challenges listeners to rethink their understanding of generosity and solidarity. With a nod to figures like Ida B. Wells and Frederick Douglass, it calls for a reexamination of how faith intersects with economic exploitation.

Jan 30, 2025 • 47min
Why Jackie Hill Perry Walked Away from Music—And Why She Came Back
Jackie Hill Perry, a talented Christian artist, poet, and Bible teacher, reflects on her unique creative journey in music and poetry. She candidly discusses her decision to step away from music at its peak and the compelling reasons for her return. The conversation covers the tension between influence and integrity, the transformative power of hip-hop in discipleship, and her childhood memories within the Black church. Jackie also shares insights on navigating faith and creativity, including how she balances theological depth with artistic expression.

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Jan 23, 2025 • 42min
LA Fires, Climate Change, and Christian Responsibility
When disaster strikes, what should Christians do? Esau sits down with Jamie Aten, a disaster relief expert, and the Blanchard Chair of Humanitarian and Disaster Leadership at Wheaton College. They talk about the devastating wildfires in California, how climate change and policy decisions are making disasters worse, and why churches play a crucial role in relief efforts. List of Ways to Contribute: https://www.holypost.com/post/ways-to-contribute-to-la-fire-relief

Jan 16, 2025 • 44min
What Squid Game Says About Us (And Capitalism)
What happens when a Korean drama holds up a mirror to the world? Esau sits down with Cultural Critic, Rebecca Sun to talk about Squid Game—the Netflix phenomenon that just released its second season. Esau and Rebecca break down how the show’s brutal, beautifully shot narrative forces us to wrestle with big questions: What is the show actually saying about capitalism? What happens when art critiques its own existence? And what does Squid Game’s creator really want us to take away from all the chaos? Rebecca Sun's Articles: There’s a Reason ‘Squid Game’ Hit a Global Nerve” https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/04/opinion/squid-game-season-2-essential-twist.html ‘Squid Game’ Returns: Inside Netflix’s Darker, Terrifyingly Relevant Season 2: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-features/squid-game-season-two-creator-lee-jung-jae-interview-1236058780/

Jan 9, 2025 • 49min
Denzel’s Ministry and What We Want From Celebrity Christians
Denzel Washington was recently baptized and now believes he's been called to ministry. How does he compare to other celebrity Christians and do we expect too much, or not enough from the most famous believers? Also, Esau talks about a recent CT article on family estrangement drawing from his own personal experience. How do we follow the commandment to honor our mother and father when we are cut off from them? Christianity Today article on Estrangement: https://www.christianitytoday.com/2024/11/estrangement-parents-love-carrie-mckean/

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Jan 2, 2025 • 1h 5min
The Biggest Stories of 2024
Esau is joined by Justin Giboney and Tish Harrison Warren to look back at the major religious, cultural, and political stories of 2024. From the impact of the election and the rise of AI in churches to surprising shifts in church demographics and the ongoing challenges of political polarization, the conversation dives deep into what shaped the church this year.

Dec 26, 2024 • 45min
Why We Celebrate: The History and Meaning of Christmas Traditions
Emily McGowin, an associate professor of theology and co-pastor, and Timothy Larson, the McManus Chair of Christian Thought, dive into the rich tapestry of Christmas traditions. They explore the origins of beloved customs like the Christmas tree and the significance of cherished hymns. The duo highlights the importance of embracing all 12 days of Christmas, balancing joy and sorrow in celebrations, and reflecting on the theological roots linking winter solstice to Christ's coming. Expect a mix of humor, personal anecdotes, and deep theological insights!

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Dec 19, 2024 • 48min
What is Bible Reading For?
In this engaging discussion, Kevin Vanhoozer, a research professor of systematic theology and author of 'Mere Christian Hermeneutics,' explores the essence of Bible reading and its impact on personal character. He highlights C.S. Lewis's influence on literary criticism and advocates for unity among diverse Protestant views. The conversation delves into the significance of context in interpretation and the importance of humility in approaching scripture. Ultimately, they emphasize fostering community-oriented reading practices that enrich spiritual growth.

Dec 12, 2024 • 43min
Best Movies of 2024 with NY Times Film Critic Alissa Wilkinson
Alissa Wilkinson, a New York Times film critic renowned for her keen insights, discusses her journey into film critique and reveals her top movie picks for 2024. The conversation spans the cultural impact of cinematic storytelling and the challenges of maintaining authenticity in blockbuster filmmaking. They explore faith themes in horror films, examining how they illuminate belief and doubt. Plus, Alissa shares cherished Christmas movie memories, blending nostalgia with a heartfelt reflection on what makes these films resonate.

Dec 5, 2024 • 41min
Mary the Apostle: Correcting History’s Biggest Biblical Misconception
Dr. Jennifer Powell McNutt, a leading biblical scholar and author of The Mary We Forgot, joins the discussion to debunk longstanding misconceptions about Mary Magdalene. They explore her vital role as an apostle and model disciple, challenging the myths that have historically overshadowed her significance. The conversation also tackles women's contributions to ministry, the importance of retrieving overlooked stories in church history, and the intriguing dynamics of spiritual warfare. This rich dialogue invites a reevaluation of how we view both Mary and women's roles in faith.
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