

The Esau McCaulley Podcast
Esau McCaulley
The Esau McCaulley Podcast looks to find God in the midst of culture. Each week, Esau will bring together friends, scholars, artists, and writers to unpack the cultural stories that shape our lives and discuss how these stories point us back to God’s presence in the world. Whether it's literature, sports, movies, music, or politics, Esau and his guests will explore how culture reflects both human creativity and our deepest longings. They’ll also challenge the notion that spirituality and culture are at odds by showing how faith can inform our engagement with the world around us. The Esau McCaulley Podcast wants to help the church move beyond the walls of the sanctuary to meet real people where they are, in this beautiful, complex world God has made, and find the space where truth and goodness meet.
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Aug 14, 2025 • 48min
Sydney Sweeney’s Jeans: Outrage or Overreaction?
A provocative ad featuring Sydney Sweeney ignites a debate about beauty standards and ethics in advertising. Was it strategic marketing or a troubling reflection of societal values? The conversation takes a fun turn as the hosts discuss Taylor Swift's latest album and the emotional bonds fans share with her music. They also tackle the challenges Christian actors face in balancing their beliefs with career demands, while reflecting on the enduring relevance of gospel music in today’s culture.

Aug 7, 2025 • 51min
Black and Evangelical?
Dr. Vince Bacote, a theologian and director at Wheaton College, joins to explore what it means to be Black and evangelical. He discusses the complexities and historical challenges that shape this identity, including the struggle of integrating into predominantly white evangelical spaces. The conversation highlights the silenced experiences of Black voices within these communities, the impact of racial issues, and the need for a deeper understanding of faith informed by cultural identity. Bacote's documentary sheds light on this often-overlooked narrative.

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Jul 31, 2025 • 46min
Is Gen Z in Revival or Retreat?
Sharon Hodde Miller, co-pastor of Bright City Church, joins the conversation to tackle the spiritual state of Gen Z, debating whether they are in revival or retreat. She discusses the so-called 'boy crisis' in education, asking if perceptions are skewed against girls’ achievements. The conversation also touches on essential topics like women’s safety in ride-sharing, the evolving role of women in church leadership, and the cultural dilemmas around holidays. It's a thought-provoking dive into the complexities facing today's youth and communities.

Jul 24, 2025 • 43min
Coldplay Kiss Cam: Comedy or Tragedy?
Nancy French, a New York Times bestselling author known for 'Ghosted: An American Story,' joins the discussion on a viral Coldplay concert kiss cam moment. They dissect whether the clip showcasing an affair is funny or tragic and what it reveals about our fascination with public shame. The conversation also touches on a D-Day veteran's unexpected TikTok fame, the complexities of celebrity-branded treats, and a whimsical exploration of Walmart's cultural significance. Lighthearted banter contrasts with deep reflections on consumerism and morality.

Jul 17, 2025 • 45min
When Grace and Drugs Share the Same Album
Justin Giboney, President of the AND Campaign and author, dives into the implications of new IRS regulations allowing churches to endorse political candidates. He and Esau McCaulley discuss whether this is a positive shift or a threat to religious integrity. They also explore the reunion of hip-hop duo The Clipse, examining the clash between faith and drug culture in music. The conversation flows into the significance of racial identifiers like 'Black' and 'African-American,' and they share summer plans filled with humor and musical recommendations.

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Jul 10, 2025 • 53min
Trump’s Big Problematic Bill
In this discussion, Malcolm Foley, co-pastor at Mosaic and author of The Anti-Greed Gospel, joins to unravel the complexities of Trump's controversial legislation. They explore how it benefits the wealthy while neglecting the poor, raising questions about national values. The conversation extends to the tragic flash floods in Texas, prompting reflections on accountability and governance. Throughout, they emphasize the church's role in advocating for the vulnerable, critiquing greed, and fostering economic solidarity.

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Jul 3, 2025 • 44min
The Billionaire Who Thinks We Care Too Much About People
Tish Harrison Warren, an author, mother, and priest known for her insights on faith and culture, joins the discussion on the complexities of patriotism, especially for Christians grappling with national pride. She introduces the term 'big church privilege,' exploring the trade-offs between large, resource-rich congregations and more intimate communities. The conversation also dives into Peter Thiel's provocative thoughts on technological stagnation, questioning the implications of pursuing perfection without ethical considerations in faith and society.

Jun 26, 2025 • 47min
A Marine Biologist Talks Science, Faith, and the Deep Sea
Rachel Jordan, a marine biologist and author of 'If the Ocean Has a Soul,' discusses the captivating blend of science and faith. She shares how a high school biology class ignited her passion for marine life and addresses the often-overlooked connection between the ocean and divine glory. The conversation weaves in whimsical Titanic conspiracies, the ecological significance of coral reefs, and the spirituality of sea creatures. Through humor and insight, Rachel emphasizes the harmony between scientific inquiry and spiritual experience.

Jun 19, 2025 • 51min
What Lilo & Stitch Teaches about Healthcare, Family & Social Safety Nets
Sharon Hodde Miller, a pastor and author of 'Free of Me,' joins for a deep dive into the live-action 'Lilo & Stitch.' They explore the film's poignant depiction of single motherhood and economic struggles, showcasing the power of community support. The conversation also touches on the challenges of being a pastor with an online presence during polarized times. Adding a fun twist, they engage in a spirited Disney movie draft debate, highlighting beloved classics while reflecting on deeper themes of redemption and empowerment.

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Jun 12, 2025 • 47min
Summer Protests, Playlists, and Kirk Franklin
Justin Giboney, an attorney and political strategist known for his insights on faith and culture, joins for a lively conversation. They dive into summer playlists, debating if a cookout is complete without Earth, Wind & Fire. Giboney reflects on Kirk Franklin's recent BET Award recognition and its cultural impact. The chat shifts to the Los Angeles protests against aggressive ICE raids, exploring the responsibilities of Christians in activism. They also discuss how to balance structured activities with free exploration for kids during summer.