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Apr 3, 2024 • 1h 19min

Derek Sivers: From Indie Platform to $22 Million Sale to Charity - The CD Baby Story

In today's episode, Mark engages in a riveting conversation with the incredible Derek Sivers, the founder of CD Baby, an entrepreneur, and a TED speaker known for his unconventional wisdom in the world of business and life. The dialogue kicks off with a thought-provoking discussion about the essence of genuine reactions versus prepared responses in interviews and podcasts.   Derek shares his philosophy of life and its translation into his business ventures. His narratives revolve around the principle of challenging status quos and navigating through life with a zest for learning and understanding. Derek opens up about his experiences and the stories that have shaped his philosophies, offering listeners a deep dive into the mind of a true innovator and thought leader.   Derek takes us on a journey through the creation and evolution of CD Baby, sharing how it became a beacon of hope and platform for independent musicians. The stories from CD Baby’s inception to its growth reveal not just a business strategy, but also Derek’s commitment to providing value to artists, thereby changing the landscape of the music industry. His insights into business, creativity, and personal development are nothing short of enlightening.   Whether it's discussing the nuances of entrepreneurial strategy, or diving deep into the emotional and logical aspects of decision-making, Derek provides a fresh perspective that is sure to leave you pondering. Don't miss out on this episode full of valuable life lessons, business strategies, and the intriguing stories behind one of the music industry’s most impactful businesses.   👉 Subscribe to The Mark Drager Show for more inspiring talks and insights from remarkable individuals from various walks of life. 🚀 Don’t forget to like, comment, and share this episode with your network!   Check Out More from The Mark Drager Show 📺:  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mark.drager * Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markdrager * TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@mark.drager * $alesLoop: https://www.salesloopbrand.com/ * Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2jkg4n5... * Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast...   Key Takeaways: The Importance of Prepared Responses: Derek Sivers emphasizes the value in preparing responses to questions in advance, suggesting that immediate reactions may not always reflect one’s true or best thoughts on a topic. This can be crucial in ensuring that communicated messages are thoughtful and impactful. The Perception of Present Tense on the Internet: Derek points out an interesting observation about the internet - when you communicate something in the present tense, it may be perceived as such even years later by readers or listeners. This highlights the importance of being mindful about how and what we communicate online. Value of Pre-Communication in Conversations: He acknowledges the merit in being sent questions before a conversation or interview. Even though his approach towards this has evolved, he recognizes that pre-communication can often lead to more thoughtful dialogue during the actual conversation. The Evolving Nature of Answers: Derek elucidates that one’s responses can evolve even in a short span of time. An initial answer might change or adapt upon further reflection, highlighting the dynamic nature of thought processes and the potential depth that can emerge from giving oneself time to think. The Fluidity and Evolution of Online Terminology: The conversation lightly touches upon how terms used on online platforms, like ‘tweet’, can become integrated into our vocabulary, and how there can be resistance or adaptation to changing these terms. This highlights a larger theme of how online platforms and their terminologies become embedded in our societal language and culture.
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Mar 27, 2024 • 58min

Kris Carr: Beyond Survival, How She Triumphed Cancer Every Day

In this conversation, Mark sits down with the incredible Kris Carr, a cancer survivor who has transformed her challenging journey into a wellspring of hope for countless others. Kris opens up about the emotional and psychological dimensions of living with a cancer diagnosis, emphasizing the pivotal role of mental management and staying grounded in the present. Her wisdom not only emanates from her personal experiences but also forms the foundation of her advocacy to inspire and support others navigating through similar life challenges.   Kris Carr's candid discussion takes listeners through her personal philosophy of avoiding "future tripping" – a practice of not getting paralyzed by potential future scenarios. She speaks about the importance of not allowing oneself to be consumed by terrifying stories about what the future might hold, especially in the context of a challenging diagnosis. Kris's philosophy is not just a theoretical concept but a practical strategy that has been instrumental in her ongoing journey with cancer.   This episode delves deeper, possibly exploring Kris’s daily life, her strategies for maintaining mental health, and how her diagnosis has impacted her perspective on life. Kris has managed to weave her experiences into a tapestry of inspiration, and through her stories, listeners might find relatable elements that could be applied in navigating through their challenges. Kris’s mental fortitude, her ability to stay present, and her proactive approach towards mental management are likely discussed further, providing listeners with actionable insights.   Join us on The Mark Drager Show as we explore not just the challenges, but the triumphs, the strategies, and the unwavering spirit of individuals like Kris Carr who turn their adversities into pathways of hope and inspiration for others. Subscribe for more conversations that seek to delve into the human spirit, explore poignant stories, and provide a space where insights, struggles, and triumphs are shared. Your journey into the heart of impactful stories begins here. Check Out More from The Mark Drager Show 📺:  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mark.drager * Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markdrager * TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@mark.drager * $alesLoop: https://www.salesloopbrand.com/ * Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2jkg4n5... * Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast...   Key Takeaways: Living in the Present: Kris Carr emphasizes the importance of staying present and not fixating on the potential future scenarios that can arise from living with cancer. She doesn’t allow herself to be consumed by the what-ifs and focuses on the now. Avoiding Negative Future Projections: Kris actively avoids "future tripping" or terrifying herself with potential future outcomes. She doesn't engage in creating scary narratives in her mind that could paralyze her with fear or anxiety. Embracing Mental Fortitude: A significant part of Kris’s journey involves mental management. She strongly advocates for maintaining mental fortitude and managing the emotional and psychological aspects that come with a diagnosis like cancer. Utilizing Personal Strategies: Kris shares that she doesn’t engage in activities or thoughts that don’t reside in her “genius zone”. She focuses on what she can do and does not burden herself with tasks or thoughts that are not beneficial to her mental and physical well-being. Not Letting Scary Stories Dictate Life: Kris doesn’t allow the scary stories of what might happen in the future dictate her life. She actively manages her mental space to avoid becoming paralyzed by fear or anxiety, ensuring that her mental health is preserved. Being Practical and Realistic: The dialogue may involve Kris and Mark discussing how to be practical and realistic when envisioning the future, especially when it comes to dealing with a long-term diagnosis like cancer.
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Mar 22, 2024 • 1h 12min

Jeff Allen: New York Comedy Stories with Veteran Comedian

Welcome to a particularly special episode of The Mark Drage Show, where we explore the vibrant world of comedy with none other than Jeff Allen, a celebrated comedian known for his perceptive and universally relatable humor. Embarking on a journey from a 16-year-old intrigued by a comedy team at a club, to becoming a seasoned comedian, Jeff shares intricate details of his fascinating journey through the intricate, dynamic world of stand-up comedy.   In this insightful episode, Jeff shares remarkable stories from his extensive career, including intriguing interactions with comedy legends like Jerry Seinfeld and Arsenio Hall. He opens up about the advice he received from Seinfeld, providing a rare glimpse into the camaraderie and mentorship within the comedy community. Jeff’s experiences, especially with Arsenio Hall, who helped him land his first paying gig, showcase the intricate networks and friendships that have supported his journey, offering listeners a backstage pass to the world of comedy.   Through tales of laughter, challenges, and memories of sharing stages and moments with comedy giants, Jeff navigates through his comedic journey, providing a genuine and transparent look into his world. His narrative includes an exploration of the 80s comedy scene, reflecting on his path amidst peers like Ellen DeGeneres, Drew Carey, Tim Allen, and Norm Macdonald, and how the industry's evolution shaped his career. With his distinctive blend of humor and authenticity, Jeff reveals the highs and lows, and the moments that have profoundly shaped his career and comedic style.   Join us on The Mark Drage Show as we traverse through Jeff Allen's illustrious career, exploring not only his personal journey but also gaining insights into the comedy world’s backstage and on-stage realities. Whether you're a devout fan of stand-up or just curious about the behind-the-scenes of the comedic world, this episode promises a blend of emotions, captivating narratives, and a generous sprinkle of Jeff's signature humor. Ensure to subscribe to The Mark Drage Show for more enlightening conversations with our incredible array of guests!   Check Out More from The Mark Drager Show 📺:  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mark.drager * Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markdrager * TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@mark.drager * $alesLoop: https://www.salesloopbrand.com/ * Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2jkg4n5... * Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast...   Key Takeaways: Discovering Passion Early: Jeff's early curiosity in comedy reveals the impactful role of exploring interests during youth, illustrating how early encounters with a passion can sculpt your career path subtly yet significantly. Embracing Courage to Start: Jeff’s move from observer to performer underscores the pivotal role of seizing opportunities, demonstrating that the initial, imperfect step often kickstarts the journey more than meticulous planning does. Confronting and Managing Stage Fright: Encountering and persevering through initial stage fright, Jeff illustrates that viewing these early jitters as temporary hurdles, not permanent barriers, fosters growth and mastery in live performances. Navigating Through Early Challenges: Jeff’s perseverance through initial setbacks speaks to the necessity of resilience in any career, highlighting that enduring through early trials without surrender often lays the foundation for eventual success. Preparation and Relatability: Learning from unprepared attempts, Jeff underscores the criticality of preparation and relatability, proving that well-constructed and resonant content is instrumental in forming genuine audience connections. Embracing Authenticity in Content: Jeff's resonance with audiences through authentic content demonstrates the power of genuine and personal experiences in crafting a unique and relatable comedic style.
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Mar 14, 2024 • 1h 6min

Geraldine Deruiter: How To Turn Your Passion Into A Job

Welcome to The Mark Drager Show, where we explore the minds and stories of extraordinary entrepreneurs, creatives, and total badasses. In this episode, we're honored to have Geraldine DeRuiter, the acclaimed writer behind "The Everywhereist" and author of "All Over the Place: Adventures in Travel, True Love, and Petty Theft," as well as her latest work, "If You Can't Take the Heat: Tales of Food, Feminism, and Fury.   Geraldine shares insights into her career as a writer and blogger, discussing the highs and lows, from confronting writer's block to the joy of connecting with readers worldwide. She talks candidly about the courage it takes to write personal stories, knowing well that people in her life will read them, and how she handles the challenge of social media trolls with grace and humor.   Check Out More from The Mark Drager Show 📺:  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mark.drager Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markdrager TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@mark.drager $alesLoop: https://www.salesloopbrand.com/ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2jkg4n5bnA9ZACGxcSusQF
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Oct 11, 2023 • 1h 2min

Rebecca Zung: Negotiate Like a Pro & Narcissism Gets Exposed

Welcome to another episode of The Mark Drager Show! Today, we're honored to host Rebecca Zung, a distinguished attorney ranked among the Top 1% in the nation. Dive into this illuminating conversation as Rebecca unravels the intricacies of negotiation, personal power, and the transformative moments that molded her illustrious career. Rebecca shares her insights into the art of negotiation, emphasizing the power of perception and the influence of personal beliefs on outcomes. She delves deep into the difference between authentic and counterfeit power, and how recognizing one's true value can reshape interactions and negotiations. Rebecca's journey has not been linear; from practicing law to a stint as a financial advisor with Morgan Stanley and back into law. Through it all, she learned the importance of self-awareness and the profound impact of body language and self-presentation. As we wrap up this insightful conversation, we reflect on the wisdom and insights shared by Rebecca Zung. This isn't just another podcast episode; it's a deep dive into the art of negotiation, the essence of personal power, and the pivotal moments that shape an outstanding career. Join us on this transformative journey and don't miss out on future enlightening discussions. Subscribe to The Mark Drager Show for more insightful dialogues. Check Out More from The Mark Drager Show 📺:  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mark.drager * Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markdrager * TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@mark.drager * $alesLoop: https://www.salesloopbrand.com/ * Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2jkg4n5... * Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast... Key Takeaways: Reprogram Your Mindset: Understand that people will perceive you based on how you present yourself. Confidence in negotiation stems from a solid self-perception. Know Your Value: Recognizing your worth is crucial. This knowledge anchors your position in any negotiation. Distinguish Authentic Power from Counterfeit Power: Understand the difference to navigate negotiations more effectively. Body Language Matters: Before words are even spoken, body language can communicate confidence and intent. Embrace Change and Opportunity: Rebecca's journey from law to financial advising and back to law highlights the importance of seizing opportunities and being adaptable. Seek Guidance: Hiring a business coach or mentor can provide valuable insights and direction in your professional journey. Control the Narrative: Remember that "people will think what you tell them to think." Be deliberate in how you present yourself and your story.
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Oct 4, 2023 • 1h 6min

Light Watkins: Living from a Carry-On, Insights into a Minimalist Lifestyle

Welcome to The Mark Drager Show, in today's episode we're joined by the renowned meditation expert, Light Watkins. Dive deep as Watkins shares his profound insights on inner peace, happiness, and personal growth. With his "inside-out" approach, he challenges traditional views, unveiling a fresh perspective on happiness. Watkins emphasizes the transformative power of practices such as meditation, gratitude, and leading a purposeful life. He addresses common misconceptions about happiness, urging listeners to chase genuine contentment over fleeting emotions. In a world often swayed by materialism, Watkins' insights on aligning personal values with one's life purpose are a breath of fresh air. Through personal anecdotes, Watkins sheds light on the significance of embracing one's inner call and making unconventional decisions. He believes that such moments, though seemingly drastic, pave the way for immense personal growth and understanding. As we wrap up this enlightening conversation, we reflect on the wisdom and insights shared by Light Watkins. This isn't merely a podcast episode; it's an exploration of mindfulness, inner harmony, and the quest for a meaningful life. Join us on this transformative journey for more such insightful dialogues. Subscribe to The Mark Drager Show for more such insightful dialogues. Check Out More from The Mark Drager Show 📺:  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mark.drager * Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markdrager * TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@mark.drager * $alesLoop: https://www.salesloopbrand.com/ * Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2jkg4n5... * Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast... Key Takeaways: Adopt an "inside-out" approach to happiness. Engage in practices like meditation, gratitude, random acts of kindness, service, and leading a purposeful life. Pursue genuine happiness, not the misconception that it's about always smiling or being overly passive. Seek a balanced approach: achieve meaningful goals while maintaining inner contentment. Understand the deep connection between personal values and life's purpose. Act upon long-held desires or plans; sometimes, drastic changes lead to personal growth.  Don't be confined by societal norms; sometimes, the most enriching experiences come from unconventional decisions.
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Sep 28, 2023 • 1h 13min

Brad Holcman: Real-world TV Producer Reveals How Television Really Works

In this insightful episode, we're joined by the accomplished TV producer, Brad Holcman. With years of experience, notably at A&E, Brad offers a unique perspective on the ever-changing landscape of television. He emphasizes that in today's TV world, it's all about creating shows that resonate so deeply that friends eagerly recommend them to one another. Brad's journey in the television industry has been nothing short of remarkable. His expertise spans the creation of captivating content to understanding audience preferences. With a knack for identifying hit shows and nurturing them to success, Brad has been instrumental in shows like "60 days in," which he's championed for almost a decade and has seen flourish both on A&E and other platforms. The episode delves deeper into the evolving philosophies of TV content distribution. As Brad puts it, it's all about going where the people are and ensuring that viewers get content they love. Whether you're curious about the ins and outs of television production or looking to understand the nuances of audience engagement, Brad Holcman's insights are invaluable.   Check Out More from The Mark Drager Show 📺:  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mark.drager * Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markdrager * TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@mark.drager * $alesLoop: https://www.salesloopbrand.com/ * Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2jkg4n5... * Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast...   Key Takeaways: The Television Enigma: While people still watch television, their viewing habits have evolved, and pinpointing exact times can be challenging. Content Over Brand: Viewers are more inclined towards individual shows rather than network brands. Word of Mouth: Aim to create compelling content that encourages recommendations among friends. Quality Over Quantity: Focus on producing more of the content people love, even if it means fewer shows overall. Adaptability: Embrace the philosophy of going where the viewers are, rather than expecting them to come to you.
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Sep 14, 2023 • 1h 16min

Kyle Cease: Beyond the Jokes, Transformation from Comedian to Inspirational Speaker

In this enlightening episode of The Mark Drager Show, we journey through the captivating career of the multi-talented comedian, kylecease. We kick things off by delving into Kyle's early days in the film industry, discussing his breakout role in the iconic '90s movie, "10 Things I Hate About You." Learn how an untrained and spontaneous Kyle managed to shine and leave an indelible mark in the world of cinema.   Kyle doesn't shy away from sharing the highs and lows of his journey. While he enjoyed early success with roles in films like "Not Another Teen Movie" and even landing a series of Burger King commercials, a turning point came when he decided to undergo formal acting training. The comedian also opens up about his robust stand-up career in his twenties, performing in countless colleges and headlining numerous shows. He wanted to get serious about his career so he hired an acting coach. However, what he initially perceived as an opportunity to refine his skills paradoxically led him away from his unique essence, making him question the true nature of early success and his purpose in life.   Reflecting on his past experiences, Kyle highlights the pivotal lessons he learned about authenticity and the dangers of losing oneself in the advice of others. His personal epiphanies eventually led him to a transformative path, helping others with his "Evolving Out Loud" events filling auditoriums with thousands of people., where he harnesses his deep insights to inspire others.   In his book "The Illusion of Money" he shows us that one of the biggest excuses we make is to not follow the exciting ideas and dreams that we have in life—and it’s costing us our life.   Don't miss out on this captivating conversation with Kyle Cease – a unique exploration of the world of comedy, film, and the intricacies of personal growth. Subscribe now and stay tuned for more engaging discussions on The Mark Drager Show.   Check Out More from The Mark Drager Show 📺:  Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mark.drager * Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markdrager * TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@mark.drager * $alesLoop: https://www.salesloopbrand.com/ * Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2jkg4n5... * Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast...   Key Advice from Kyle Cease: 1. Embrace Authentic Beginnings: Kyle's spontaneous audition for "10 Things I Hate About You" teaches us the power of being genuine and not overthinking. Sometimes, the best opportunities arise when we're ourselves. 2. Reassess Early Success: Just as Kyle reflected on his initial effortless roles, it's essential to understand that early success might not always define long-term growth. Keep evolving. 3. Training vs. Essence: While Kyle's acting training was meant to refine his skills, it unintentionally took away his unique essence. Always ensure that learning enhances, not dilutes, your authenticity. 4. Diversification is Growth: Kyle's venture from films to stand-up shows the importance of exploring diverse avenues. It not only enriches skills but also broadens horizons. 5. Guard Your Individuality: Kyle's experience with advice, even from a respected acting teacher, underscores the importance of filtering external advice and retaining your unique essence. 6. Life's Unexpected Routes: Kyle's journey from envisioning stadium-filled stand-up shows to transformational speaking is a testament to life's unpredictability. Stay adaptable. 7. Redefining Goals: As Kyle reflected on his past aspirations versus his current calling, we learn that it's okay for our goals to evolve. What matters is finding fulfillment and purpose in the journey.
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Sep 7, 2023 • 44min

Casey King: The CRAZIEST Transformation You'll EVER See 600 lbs. Life

In this episode, we sit down with the inspirational Casey King. Casey's life was completely turned upside-down by his appearance on the TLC popular reality TV show, Family By The Ton, where viewers witnessed his raw struggles and triumphs.   The show not only highlighted the magnitude of his weight loss journey but also shed light on the dynamics of family relationships, especially with his father. As we delve further into the conversation he candidly discusses the challenges of food addiction, anxiety, and depression and its effects on his relationships.   We also cover his years of isolation and the emotional weight, dealing with his self-confidence and insecurities about body image, but also gaining motivation through people's compliments and validation. Join us as we uncover the layers of Casey's transformative journey, filled with introspection, revelations, and invaluable life lessons.   Don't miss out on this profound conversation with Casey King - a testament to resilience, change, and the journey to self-understanding. Subscribe for more enlightening discussions!   Check Out More from The Mark Drager Show 📺: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mark.drager Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markdrager TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@mark.drager $alesLoop: https://www.salesloopbrand.com/ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2jkg4n5bnA9ZACGxcSusQF Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/the-mark-drager-show/id1534172618   Key Takeaways: 1. Embracing Authenticity: Understand and be true to yourself, ensuring your actions don't negatively impact those you care about.  2. The Power of Empathy: Advocating for a world with more empathy, humility, and grace to foster deeper understanding and connections among individuals.  3. Personal Growth and Perception: Recognize the evolution in personal growth and how external perceptions might lag behind one's current state of self.  4. Recognizing Common Human Experiences: Acknowledge that many emotional and psychological experiences are universal, even if they often go unnoticed.  5. Challenges of Rapid Personal Transformation: Rapid personal changes can create a gap in understanding among close acquaintances and family members.  6. Valuing Commonality in Experiences: Every individual undergoes experiences that, while personal, are often shared feelings or situations in the broader human experience.  7. Navigating Personal Change with Loved Ones: Personal transformations can challenge familial perceptions, necessitating patience and communication to bridge understanding gaps.
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Sep 3, 2023 • 1h 4min

Lesley Paterson: Oscar Winner Reveals WHAT It's REALLY Like

In this captivating podcast episode, we take a thrilling journey into the life and achievements of Lesley Paterson, a Scottish triathlete, author, screenwriter, and film producer. From conquering numerous triathlon world championships to establishing herself in Hollywood, Paterson's talent knows no bounds.   Together with her writing-producing partner, Ian Stokell, Paterson embarked on a monumental endeavor - bringing Erich Maria Remarque's anti-war masterpiece, "All Quiet on the Western Front," back to life on the silver screen. Delving into their shared passion for the novel, they realized the potential for an adaptation using modern cinematic technology. Stripping the film of typical war genre clichés, she and Stokell crafted a screenplay that showcased the true essence of human struggle, hopelessness, and apathy during the war.   Amidst financial challenges, including personal sacrifices and overcoming Lyme disease, Paterson's unwavering determination prevailed. The journey to bring this cinematic gem to life was a rollercoaster of ups and downs, with Daniel Radcliffe eager to act in the film, but the lack of funding posing obstacles.   Fast forward to the present, the landscape of the film industry has changed, with streaming services gaining prominence. The success of story-driven films like "Parasite" and WWI-themed films like "1917" has opened doors for authentic storytelling. Through grit and determination, the project started to gain traction when German director Edward Berger and producer Malte Grunert approached Paterson and Stokell with a desire to create the film in the German language.   With Netflix winning the bid, the stars aligned, and the film took flight. "All Quite on the Western Front" credited to Berger, Paterson, and Stokell, received accolades beyond measure, receiving nine Oscar nominations, and taking home 4 Academy Awards for best international feature, production design, score and Cinematography and an impressive fourteen BAFTA Award nominations with 7 wins in total, including the coveted Best Adapted Screenplay.   Prepare to be inspired by Lesley Paterson as we unravel the story behind the Oscar-winning "All Quiet on the Western Front." Join us as we celebrate her triumphs, challenges, and unwavering passion that brought this film to life and into the homes of audiences worldwide. 🎬✨   This podcast episode is a must-listen for film enthusiasts, creative minds, and anyone seeking to learn how a commitment to passion and patience can translate into fulfilling your goals. Tune in now to be a part of this unforgettable conversation with Lesley Paterson! 🎧🌠   Check Out More from The Mark Drager Show 📺: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/mark.drager Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/markdrager TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@mark.drager $alesLoop: https://www.salesloopbrand.com/ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2jkg4n5bnA9ZACGxcSusQF Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/the-mark-drager-show/id1534172618 Key Takeaways: Understanding the importance of being passionate about what you do Financial struggles and selling possessions before Netflix greenlit their film project  Gratitude for having opportunities in the film and TV industry Recognizing that some people just want to be heard, not necessarily seeking solutions  They express their belief in the importance of listening to others and understanding different perspectives. Lesley highlights the importance of gratitude and facing challenges with a positive mindset  

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