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Jan 3, 2023 • 46min

What you need to know about ketamine-assisted therapy

Send us a textOn this episode of the Psychedelic Therapy Frontiers podcast, Dr. Steve Thayer and Dr. Reid Robison discuss what you need to know about ketamine-assisted psychotherapy.  (1:43) Ram Dass's family dinner (4:27) What is ketamine?(7:05) What does ketamine feel like?(11:29) Ketamine as a psychotomimetic (12:53) Ego dissociation as a therapy (14:54) The limitations of ketamine therapy(16:00) The different approaches to ketamine therapy(23:10) Ketamine dosing strategies (27:05) Psychedelic, psycholytic, and psychiatric uses of ketamine (28:30) The advantages of combining ketamine and psychotherapy(33:17) Typical course of ketamine treatment (37:20) Spravato and the cost of ketamine treatment(40:45) Ketamine prescriptions for at-home useLearn more about our podcast at https://numinus.com/podcast/Learn more about Numinus at https://numinus.com/Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drstevethayer/https://www.instagram.com/innerspacedoctor/https://www.instagram.com/joeflanders/https://www.instagram.com/numinushealth/Learn more about our podcast at https://numinusnetwork.com/learn/podcast/Learn more about psychedelic therapy training opportunities at https://numinusnetwork.com/training/Learn more about our clinical trials at https://www.numinusnetwork.com/researchLearn more about Numinus at https://numinusnetwork.com/Email us at ptfpodcast@numinus.com Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drstevethayer/https://www.instagram.com/innerspacedoctor/https://www.instagram.com/numinushealth/
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Dec 27, 2022 • 1h 14min

A good death, living well, and psychedelic therapy in palliative care with Anthony Back, M.D.

Send us a textOn this episode of the Psychedelic Therapy Frontiers podcast, Dr. Joe Flanders interviews Dr. Anthony Back, M.D. Dr. Back is a co-founder of VitalTalk, a national nonprofit that provides innovative, interactive clinician and faculty development courses to improve communication skills on an individual and institutional level. Dr. Back is a professor of medicine at the University of Washington in Seattle, and the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center. Dr. Back earned his MD at Harvard University. He is triple-board certified in hospice and palliative medicine, medical oncology, and general internal medicine. In his role as a medical communication educator and a VitalTalk co-founder, Dr. Back was the principal investigator for Oncotalk, co-wrote Mastering Communication with Seriously Ill Patients, released the first iPhone app for clinician communication skills, and authored the online communication skills curriculum offered by the Center to Advance Palliative Care.(3:00) Dr. Back introduces himself(6:55) What is palliative care?(9:06) Improving quality of life and having a good death(15:30) The applications of psychedelics for end-of-life care(17:35) Dr. Back's article, "What psilocybin taught me about dying"(21:00) Materialist vs spiritualist views of life and death(29:14) Roland Griffiths' cancer diagnosis (34:07) Gratitude for cancer(38:22) How psychedelics might help people at end-of-life(55:23) Randomized trial of psilocybin for health care practitioners with depression(01:01:07) How do you train a health care practitioner in good palliative care?(01:07:51) How do we scale psychedelic-assisted therapy?Learn more about our podcast at https://numinus.com/podcast/Learn more about Numinus at https://numinus.com/Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drstevethayer/https://www.instagram.com/innerspacedoctor/https://www.instagram.com/joeflanders/https://www.instagram.com/numinushealth/Learn more about our podcast at https://numinusnetwork.com/learn/podcast/Learn more about psychedelic therapy training opportunities at https://numinusnetwork.com/training/Learn more about our clinical trials at https://www.numinusnetwork.com/researchLearn more about Numinus at https://numinusnetwork.com/Email us at ptfpodcast@numinus.com Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drstevethayer/https://www.instagram.com/innerspacedoctor/https://www.instagram.com/numinushealth/
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Dec 20, 2022 • 51min

Manifesting, the placebo effect, and how beliefs shape your life

Send us a textOn this episode of the Psychedelic Therapy Frontiers podcast, Dr. Steve Thayer and Dr. Reid Robison discuss the power of belief, the placebo effect, manifesting and the law of attraction, and how these things are relevant for psychedelic-assisted therapy and life. (0:52) Childhood fears and scary movies (4:00) The conflict between rational thought and felt sense(5:08) Why do people believe what they believe?(7:22) How beliefs are related to mental illness (9:45) Cognitive biases and the scientific method(13:45) Evolutionary basis of beliefs(16:36) The placebo effect(27:30) Manifesting and the law of attraction (35:20) Eastern wisdom about our relationship to thoughts and beliefs (38:11) How beliefs affect psychedelic-assisted therapyLearn more about our podcast at https://numinus.com/podcast/Learn more about Numinus at https://numinus.com/Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drstevethayer/https://www.instagram.com/innerspacedoctor/https://www.instagram.com/joeflanders/https://www.instagram.com/numinushealth/Learn more about our podcast at https://numinusnetwork.com/learn/podcast/Learn more about psychedelic therapy training opportunities at https://numinusnetwork.com/training/Learn more about our clinical trials at https://www.numinusnetwork.com/researchLearn more about Numinus at https://numinusnetwork.com/Email us at ptfpodcast@numinus.com Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drstevethayer/https://www.instagram.com/innerspacedoctor/https://www.instagram.com/numinushealth/
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Dec 13, 2022 • 52min

Control vs surrender in psychedelic therapy and in life

Send us a textOn this episode of the Psychedelic Therapy Frontiers podcast, Dr. Steve Thayer and Dr. Reid Robison discuss the paradox of control and surrender in psychedelic assisted therapy and in life. (1:45) A poem about control vs surrender written by an AI chat bot(4:24) The Serenity Prayer(5:50) Avoidance and our attachments to control are at the root of many types of suffering(9:29) Allowing and the wisdom to know when to stop(13:29) Radical Acceptance, by Tara Brach (14:19) Acceptance, the comfort zone, and struggle(17:41) Ceremony as a way to sacarementalize discomfort(20:03) The safety of the therapy container allows clients to let go(22:32) REBUS and how we change our neurological wiring (24:45) Why some people might feel worse after a psychedelic experience(26:19) How one might cultivate equanimity (27:10) What does it mean to surrender to emotions?(32:45) What we resist, persists.(34:47) Don't deny the reality of others. (37:55) Attachment to beliefs can make surrender difficult (40:00) How to cultivate equanimity  Learn more about our podcast at https://numinus.com/podcast/Learn more about Numinus at https://numinus.com/Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drstevethayer/https://www.instagram.com/innerspacedoctor/https://www.instagram.com/joeflanders/https://www.instagram.com/numinushealth/Learn more about our podcast at https://numinusnetwork.com/learn/podcast/Learn more about psychedelic therapy training opportunities at https://numinusnetwork.com/training/Learn more about our clinical trials at https://www.numinusnetwork.com/researchLearn more about Numinus at https://numinusnetwork.com/Email us at ptfpodcast@numinus.com Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drstevethayer/https://www.instagram.com/innerspacedoctor/https://www.instagram.com/numinushealth/
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Dec 6, 2022 • 1h 54min

Psychedelic Somatic Interactional Psychotherapy with Saj Razvi

Send us a textOn this episode of the Psychedelic Therapy Frontiers podcast, Dr. Joe Flanders interviews Saj Razvi. Saj is the Director of Education at the Psychedelic Somatic Institute (PSI) and one of the primary developers of the Psychedelic Somatic Interactional Psychotherapy (PSIP) modality. He is a psychotherapist and former clinical researcher in the MAPS Phase 2 trial of MDMA-assisted psychotherapy. He is faculty at Mind Medicine Australia and taught PTSD studies at the University of Denver. Learn more about Saj on the PSI website. (3:52) Saj's background (6:50) The power of cannabis to help with the psychotherapy process(9:00) Psychedelic therapy is complex and an art form(13:25) The trauma roots of treatment-resistant mental health conditions(15:39) PSIP vs insight-oriented therapies (24:18) Psychedelics and working at the somatic level(27:55) White paper on PSIP(29:24) The default mod network and entropic brain(36:38) How the nervous system self-corrects the effects of trauma through a 5-stage defense cascade (53:30) Avoidance and shame(57:30) Selective inhibition (01:08:44) Inside and outside the window of tolerance (01:12:20) Working with trauma is about relationship/attachment(01:16:45) Joe's experience with PSIP(01:26:25) Adaptive vs maladaptive responses to stress(01:36:00) Cannabis and working with dissociation in trauma therapy (01:43:35) "Cracking open" stuckness in psychedelic therapy(01:46:20) Cannabis vs ketamineLearn more about our podcast at https://numinus.com/podcast/Learn more about Numinus at https://numinus.com/Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drstevethayer/https://www.instagram.com/innerspacedoctor/https://www.instagram.com/joeflanders/https://www.instagram.com/numinushealth/Learn more about our podcast at https://numinusnetwork.com/learn/podcast/Learn more about psychedelic therapy training opportunities at https://numinusnetwork.com/training/Learn more about our clinical trials at https://www.numinusnetwork.com/researchLearn more about Numinus at https://numinusnetwork.com/Email us at ptfpodcast@numinus.com Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drstevethayer/https://www.instagram.com/innerspacedoctor/https://www.instagram.com/numinushealth/
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Nov 29, 2022 • 58min

How to set boundaries for better relationships and better mental health

Send us a textOn this episode of the Psychedelic Therapy Frontiers podcast, Dr. Steve Thayer and Dr. Reid Robison discuss how to set healthy boundaries so your relationships can be energizing and your mental health can flourish. (2:00) Boundaries are important in many facets of life(4:00) Our basic need for belonging(4:40) Transcend, by Scott Barry Kaufman(7:21) Don't take on what isn't yours(10:25) Setting boundaries isn't the same as selfishness (13:55) Boundaries allow you to be generous (15:51) The challenges of changing your boundaries (21:08) Types of boundaries(22:55) Borderline personality disorder(24:27) Vulnerability, intimacy, and safety (30:40) Touch boundaries in psychedelic therapy sessions(32:38) Cognitive and affective empathy(33:04) Validate and listen first(42:25) Setting boundaries around your time(44:38) Let me Google that for you(45:00) Integrity boundary check exercise (47:02) Energies, vibrations, quantum physics, and the nature of consciousness (53:17) Recommended books: Talking to Crazy, Adult Children of Emotionally Immature Parents, Children of the Self-Absorbed, Never Split the Difference, Boundaries, No More Mr. Nice Guy, Co-dependent No More. Learn more about our podcast at https://numinus.com/podcast/Learn more about Numinus at https://numinus.com/Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drstevethayer/https://www.instagram.com/innerspacedoctor/https://www.instagram.com/joeflanders/https://www.instagram.com/numinushealth/Learn more about our podcast at https://numinusnetwork.com/learn/podcast/Learn more about psychedelic therapy training opportunities at https://numinusnetwork.com/training/Learn more about our clinical trials at https://www.numinusnetwork.com/researchLearn more about Numinus at https://numinusnetwork.com/Email us at ptfpodcast@numinus.com Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drstevethayer/https://www.instagram.com/innerspacedoctor/https://www.instagram.com/numinushealth/
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Nov 22, 2022 • 44min

Self-care strategies for the psychedelic therapist

Send us a textOn this episode of the Psychedelic Therapy Frontiers podcast, Dr. Steve Thayer and Dr. Reid Robison discuss self-care strategies for the psychedelic therapist. (1:30) Self-care vs self-indulgence  (3:02) Why is self-care a necessity for therapists(6:05) The therapist is an important part of the setting(8:45) Managing the long sessions typical of psychedelic therapy sessions(11:40) How much of this work can a therapist handle?(13:18) Staying attuned when the client is still and quiet(15:00) Modeling good self-care for clients(17:45) Logistical support for the psychedelic therapist (19:19) What Reid and Steve do for self-care(23:50) Signs that you need to improve self-care(26:26) PTF episode on burnout(30:32) Balance between cutting slack and self-discipline (33:22) How to care for yourself during a long psychedelic session(35:30) Get supervisionLearn more about our podcast at https://numinus.com/podcast/Learn more about Numinus at https://numinus.com/Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drstevethayer/https://www.instagram.com/innerspacedoctor/https://www.instagram.com/joeflanders/https://www.instagram.com/numinushealth/Learn more about our podcast at https://numinusnetwork.com/learn/podcast/Learn more about psychedelic therapy training opportunities at https://numinusnetwork.com/training/Learn more about our clinical trials at https://www.numinusnetwork.com/researchLearn more about Numinus at https://numinusnetwork.com/Email us at ptfpodcast@numinus.com Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drstevethayer/https://www.instagram.com/innerspacedoctor/https://www.instagram.com/numinushealth/
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Nov 15, 2022 • 57min

Music as medicine

Send us a textOn this episode of the Psychedelic Therapy Frontiers podcast, Dr. Steve Thayer, Dr. Reid Robison, and Dr. Joe Flanders discuss the healing power of music. They share their personal journeys with and connections to music, childhood piano lessons, the powerful effect music has on emotion, how they use music in psychedelic therapy, and much, much more. (1:55) Reid's music journey(4:00) Steve's music journey(7:05) Joe's music journey(10:00) Why we pair music with psychedelic therapy(13:52) What kind of music pairs well with psychedelic therapy(16:20) East Forest and Trevor Hall concerts(18:53) Fitting the music to the particular psychedelic medicine and Joe's interview with Jon Hopkins (21:35) Wavepaths: music for psychedelic therapy (28:43) Dose matters(30:56) Connecting to the musician by feeling their music(36:16) Bittersweet: How Sorrow And Longing Make Us Whole, by Susan Cain(43:33) The arc of order and chaos in music and psychedelic therapy(46:00) Steve's gong encounter (47:20) How the Beatles were introduced to LSDLearn more about our podcast at https://numinus.com/podcast/Learn more about Numinus at https://numinus.com/Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drstevethayer/https://www.instagram.com/innerspacedoctor/https://www.instagram.com/joeflanders/https://www.instagram.com/numinushealth/Learn more about our podcast at https://numinusnetwork.com/learn/podcast/Learn more about psychedelic therapy training opportunities at https://numinusnetwork.com/training/Learn more about our clinical trials at https://www.numinusnetwork.com/researchLearn more about Numinus at https://numinusnetwork.com/Email us at ptfpodcast@numinus.com Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drstevethayer/https://www.instagram.com/innerspacedoctor/https://www.instagram.com/numinushealth/
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Nov 8, 2022 • 1h 8min

Music for psychedelic therapy with Jon Hopkins

Send us a textIn this episode of the Psychedelic Therapy Frontiers Podcast, Dr. Joe Flanders interviews musician & producer, Jon Hopkins. Jon has been producing music for over 20 years. He's written six studio albums and has produced albums for Coldplay & Brian Eno. His album Singularity received a Grammy nomination for best electronic dance album in 2018. His latest album, Music for Psychedelic Therapy, was written as a soundtrack for ketamine experiences. Joe and Jon discuss Jon's motivation to write the album, as well as his meditation practice, the role of music in psychedelic therapy, and the Ram Dass lecture that formed lyrics to the album’s powerful closing track. Jon also shares how ketamine played a role creating the Music for Psychedelic Therapy album.(2:50) Jon's process for making the album, Music for Psychedelic Therapy(7:05) The importance of music in psychedelic therapy(10:10) How new technologies help artists create immersive music (12:00) Wavepaths: music for psychedelic therapy(17:18) What was Jon processing personally while making this album?(22:40) What is healing about the beauty of being in touch with sadness?(29:23) Joe's ketamine experience with Jon's album and how Jon used his own ketamine experiences to compose the album(42:26) The song, Sitting Around the Fire, and using music with lyrics for psychedelic therapy(52:44) The drawbacks of smartphone use and push notifications (01:00:00) The music as medicine concert series and how it's differentLearn more about our podcast at https://numinus.com/podcast/Learn more about Numinus at https://numinus.com/Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drstevethayer/https://www.instagram.com/innerspacedoctor/https://www.instagram.com/numinushealth/Learn more about our podcast at https://numinusnetwork.com/learn/podcast/Learn more about psychedelic therapy training opportunities at https://numinusnetwork.com/training/Learn more about our clinical trials at https://www.numinusnetwork.com/researchLearn more about Numinus at https://numinusnetwork.com/Email us at ptfpodcast@numinus.com Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drstevethayer/https://www.instagram.com/innerspacedoctor/https://www.instagram.com/numinushealth/
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Nov 1, 2022 • 1h 9min

Numinus Presents Psychedelic Therapy Frontiers with Steve, Reid, and Joe

Send us a textOn this episode of the Psychedelic Therapy Frontiers podcast we announce that Numinus will officially adopt and produce the show and we welcome Dr. Joe Flanders to the podcast team. Joe is a licensed psychologist, with an active practice in psychotherapy and psychedelic-assisted therapy. He has previously served as a co-therapist for a MAPS MDMA-assisted therapy clinical trial and provided psilocybin-assisted therapy through Health Canada’s Special Access Program, in addition to his ongoing ketamine-assisted therapy work at Numinus clinics. He is also currently the Regional Psychotherapy Director (Quebec) and clinical lead of Practitioner Training for Numinus. Joe has been on a life-long journey in the pursuit of the most effective approaches for cultivating well-being – his own and that of his clients. In the last decade of that journey, Joe acted as the Founder and Director of Mindspace, a centre for well-being with several locations and over 35 mental health professionals in Montreal.Get acquainted with Joe and hear all about the exciting new content coming to the podcast in the near future!(3:17) Joe introduces himself(6:00) The shift from Novamind to Numinus production of the podcast(6:59) Joe discusses the Mindspace Podcast(9:15) Podcast content moving forward(11:28) Why the hosts are excited about this work(13:13) Steve introduces himself(17:30) Joe's origin story as a mental health professional(22:08) The future of MDMA-assisted therapy in clinic(30:23) Ketamine vs other psychedelic medicines(35:00) Joe's experience facilitating psilocybin-assisted psychotherapy (39:50) The challenges of facilitating psychedelic-assisted psychotherapy (41:00) Healing vs symptom management (43:20) Therapist self-care and "doing your own work"(54:05) Training psychedelic therapists(57:42) Psychedelic therapy training by Numinus(01:03:30) Experiential psychedelic training for therapistsLearn more about our podcast at https://www.psychedelictherapyfrontiers.com/Learn more about Numinus at https://numinus.com/Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drstevethayer/https://www.instagram.com/innerspacedoctor/https://www.instagram.com/numinushealth/Learn more about our podcast at https://numinusnetwork.com/learn/podcast/Learn more about psychedelic therapy training opportunities at https://numinusnetwork.com/training/Learn more about our clinical trials at https://www.numinusnetwork.com/researchLearn more about Numinus at https://numinusnetwork.com/Email us at ptfpodcast@numinus.com Follow us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drstevethayer/https://www.instagram.com/innerspacedoctor/https://www.instagram.com/numinushealth/

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