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Visit gtmPRO to subscribe and get free access to our frameworks and guides!Practical Go-to-Market guidance specifically for B2B software and service companies between $5MM-$50MM in revenue.
Latest episodes

Jan 5, 2024 • 42min
#6: Measuring Marketing's Impact: The End of Digital Attirbution
Rand Fishkin's video on why digital attribution is going to dieAndy and Gary dissect the aftermath of privacy updates on digital attribution and how this impacts B2B Software and Services companies in the lower middle market. In this episode we dive deeper on the insights of transitioning to a media mix and efficiency model, where we consider everything from monetary to effort 'spend'—like the dedication it takes to craft this very podcast for brand elevation.Our discussion focuses on the precision needed in targeting marketing efforts. It's about fostering an always-on systems thinking program that keeps you aligned with your buyers through always listening them and competitor analysis. We unpack various targeting tactics, from the expansive reach of LinkedIn to the intimate, issue-specific strategies that resonate with your target buyer. Balance is key—especially when aligning marketing initiatives with the expectations of a CEO or board—so we're here breaking down the transformative approach needed to understand your buyers before funneling resources into your campaigns.Dive into the concept of unaided awareness, its growth over time, and how marketing efforts across all customer lifecycle stages can be harnessed to drive revenue. This episode promises to equip marketers and revenue leaders with the foresight to align their marketing tactics with the needs and journey of their buyers, paving the way for sustainable growth and brand presence.

Dec 22, 2023 • 41min
#5: Systems Thinking for 2024 in Go-To-Market
Jacco's postPodcast with CSO from SMART, the company referenced in the HBS articleFantastic counterpoint by David Kellogg.Unified Commercial Engine HBS ArticleEmbark on a time-traveling odyssey back to the not-so-distant past, where the digital bloom reshaped the SaaS industry's go-to-market playbook. Our latest episode is a treasure trove of stories and insights that will shift your perspective on the evolution of marketing and sales strategies. From the digital marketing surge to the essential role of Sales Development Representatives (SDRs), we navigate the trials and triumphs that have forged the cutting-edge tactics of today. Join us as we dissect the "law of shitty click-throughs" and confront the trials facing revenue leaders in the bustling lower middle market—a segment where innovation is key to cutting through the cacophony of advertising noise.Here's a nugget of wisdom for those crafting go-to-market strategies: specificity isn't just a detail; it's the cornerstone of customer trust. In this episode, we peel back the layers of the 'moment of value' and examine the delicate dance between promises made and expectations met. We also tackle the buyer's skepticism in a sea of choices and explore how AI marvels like ChatGPT are changing the game for discerning buyers. As we weave through the narrative, the emphasis falls upon the power of a unified message—reminding organizations, regardless of size, that precise and targeted approaches can significantly bolster their marketing muscle.Finally, we turn the spotlight on the holistic changes sweeping across marketing and sales departments, where the 'moment of value' reigns supreme in customer engagement. Our conversation is a call to arms for alignment across teams, ensuring that the brand's heartbeat is consistent from the first customer interaction to the last. With an eye toward efficiency and revenue that sticks, we liken a well-oiled marketing strategy to the rhythmic operations of a factory floor. Don't miss this enlightening episode, where we tackle the intricacies of go-to-market planning and offer up a vision for thriving in an ever-shifting business landscape.

Dec 16, 2023 • 28min
#4: Foundations for 2024 Planning: The Bowling Pins Strategy
Foundations for 2024 Planning: SlidesAre you aligning your business plans with the right horizons? Buckle up, as we break down the Three Horizons concept in business planning and operations in this episode. We explore the potential pitfalls of focusing solely on the first horizon (current year's revenue and execution), and why envisioning your long-term goals (third horizon) could be a game-changer. Drawing upon the second horizon, which harmoniously blends the first and third, we illuminate its pivotal role in amplifying success. Venturing into the second half of our podcast, we steer our conversation towards the complexities of business growth, particularly in the lower middle market. Illustrating this journey with a bowling alley analogy, we underline the importance of learning from one segment before progressing to the next. What's more? We delve into the concept of the solution landscape and the importance of understanding your market and competition. With the Byerled Growth Framework in focus, we stress the essence of defining your ideal customer profile, segmentation, and understanding buyer dynamics. Gear up for a comprehensive understanding of strategies that propel sustained business growth and success.

Dec 8, 2023 • 52min
#3: The CEO goes "Let's go up market"
References:Sam Jacobs PostThe Complete Guide to Moving Up-Market in SaaSHow to Use Positioning in Sales Qualification and DiscoveryReady to demystify the process of moving up market? We are here to challenge your preconceived notions and guide you through the complexities of this pivotal shift. We'll be debunking the myth that it's solely a go-to-market team's task and exploring how this strategic move affects every function within the organization - from product development to onboarding. Expect a candid conversation as we express our frustrations over the oversimplification of this process and the unrealistic expectations of instant revenue escalation.Taking a deep dive into the murky waters of moving up market, we'll shed light on the potential roadblocks that can stifle a Lower Middle Market company's growth. Is it fair to assume that larger companies should pay more automatically? We challenge this notion as we stress the need to demonstrate value swiftly to bigger organizations. We'll also examine the crucial elements of moving up market, such as product positioning, pricing, packaging, and strategic market entry, underlining the need for these components to harmonize for a successful market transition.In the final leg of our journey up market, we switch our focus to the pivotal role of the CEO in driving revenue growth. Join us as we caution against the perils of hastening this market transition without fully understanding its complexities. We underscore the importance of a clear strategic plan, gauging the company's current market status against its aspirations, and the concept of three horizon thinking. We wrap up with some practical strategies on selling up market, emphasizing the need to comprehend the economic buyer and crafting targeted messaging. Buckle up, it's time to aim higher!

Dec 1, 2023 • 46min
#2: Outbound Will Never Be The Same
Andrew Chen, The Law of Shitty Clickthroughs: https://andrewchen.com/the-law-of-shitty-clickthroughs/Jen Allen Knuth, Google is taking nunchucks away from the kids: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/demandjen1_if-you-gave-your-10-year-old-kid-nunchucks-activity-713057...Alex Vacca, The end for Outreach and Salesloft?: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/alex-vacca_the-end-for-outreach-and-salesloft-outreach-activity-71302...What if everything you knew about outbound marketing was about to change? Join us as we embark on a comprehensive discussion, probing the imminent transformation in the outbound marketing landscape. With tightening restrictions on emails by giants like Google and Yahoo, we shed light on the subsequent downfall of sales automation tools. As leaders navigating the realm of B2B software and services, we arm you with insights and predictions essential for embracing the future of outbound marketing.Think outbound sales is a breeze? Think again. It's time to unravel the challenges one step at a time and discuss conventional outreach tactics from emails to calls. But as we unmask these strategies, we also underline the importance of credibility and relationship-building, which often get lost in the rush for short-term gains. We examine the diminishing returns of relying solely on outbound tactics and warn against the temptation of over-dependence on automation tools. It's all about finding that perfect balance - complementing outbound strategies with a genuine intent to build relationships. Lastly, we journey through the crucial mindset shift needed in sales - moving from a focus on sales numbers to providing value. We delve into our experiences with CEO and CFO client relationships, where proactive and helpful outreach made all the difference. Remember, automation and AI are here to assist us, not replace the human touch in sales. Tune in as we underline the importance of delivering value to customers and prepare yourself for a radical shift in outbound marketing.

Nov 30, 2023 • 16min
#1: Intro to gtmPRO
If you got asked to present a Go-to-Market plan to the Board, how would you feel?gtmPRO is designed from the ground up to help revenue leaders at lower middle market companies (<$50mm in revenue) take on this challenge with confidence.Your hosts for gtmPRO include:Gary Schwake - Managing Partner at Yield Group (Go-to-Market advisory firm), Operating Partner at Boathouse Capital, Limited Partner at Stage 2 Capital and 2x Founder.Andy Monahan - Partner at Yield Group, Operating Partner at Boathouse Capital and an OG data-driven growth expert (AOL, Capital One).Tiana Quiroga - Manager of Marketing & Community at Yield Group and empathetic moderator of the podcastRevenue leaders at lower middle market companies face unique challenges that the commonly available “hyperscale” thought-leadership doesn’t adequately address. They are simultaneously a Coach, a Player and, without a lot of guidance, an Executive.