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May 14, 2020 • 38min

Brian Langstraat, CFA and Steve Curley, CFA: Direct Indexing - Tax Alpha and Direct Beta

This episode features the CEO of Parametric, Brian Langstraat, CFA. Brian is responsible for Parametric’s firmwide strategy and organizational development. Since joining Parametric in 1990, Brian has held positions in portfolio management, product development, portfolio administration, marketing, and client service. In 2014 he was elected to the Eaton Vance Corp. board of directors. He earned a BA in economics and sociology from the University of Washington. In this episode, Brian begins with his background and why he chose to pursue the CFA designation.  Then he explains what direct indexing is, how it utilizes tax-loss harvesting to increase returns, the degree to which it is affected by tracking error, whether or not technology will affect account minimums in the future, and diversity within his firm.   (0:38) – Steve Curley and Colby Donovan introduce the episode (2:00) – Introduce Brian Langstraat, CFA (2:30) – Handling COVID-19 in Seattle (3:58) – His background (5:00) – Why he decided to pursue the CFA designation (6:40) – Explanation of direct indexing (17:00) – Handling new clients with pre-existing securities (22:15) – Handling tracking error (25:00) – Direct indexing vs. ETF’s (26:13) – Technology changes affecting account minimums (28:10) – Tax loss harvesting with fixed-income (30:00) – Racial and gender diversity within the investment management industry and his firm (32:38) – Learn more about direct indexing on their website (33:25) – Who’s the one person you’d like to have a conversation with right now? (35:25) - What are you most pessimistic and optimistic about in the world right now?  
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May 7, 2020 • 33min

Barry Ritholtz and Steve Curley, CFA: Part II of II: Active Share

This is Part II of our episode with Barry Ritholtz. If you haven’t listened to Part I, hit pause and listen to that first. This episode features Barry Ritholtz, co-founder, Chairman, and Chief Investment Officer of Ritholtz Wealth Management.  He is also the creator and host of the Masters in Business podcast/show on Bloomberg Radio and author of the book Bailout Nation, which was published in 2009. In the second of a two part episode, Ritholtz explains why he prefers active management in fixed-income over equities, how he curates which writers to follow, thoughts on the recent CFP Board decision and the Charles Schwab and TD Ameritrade merger, and what skills he recommends younger people prioritize. Follow the CFA Society of Orlando on Twitter at @CFAOrlandoFL (0:38) -  Colby Donovan introduces the podcast (0:59) – Why he favors active management in fixed-income over equities (4:11) – How he curates which writers to follow (9:50) – Serving women as a client base (14:47) – Form CRS (15:58) – Why he thinks the CFP Board shanked their recent decision (18:32) – Impact of Charles Schwab and T.D. Ameritrade merger on RIA’s (21:22) – What skills he thinks younger people prioritize who are pursuing a career in finance (25:20) – Who’s the one person you want to have a conversation with? (27:02) – What are you most optimistic and pessimistic about in the world right now?
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Apr 30, 2020 • 25min

Barry Ritholtz and Steve Curley, CFA: Part I of II - Bailout Nation

This is Part I of a two-part episode; check back for Part II. This episode features Barry Ritholtz, co-founder, Chairman, and Chief Investment Officer of Ritholtz Wealth Management.  He is also the creator and host of the Masters in Business podcast/show on Bloomberg Radio and author of the book Bailout Nation, which was published in 2009. In the first of a two-part episode, Ritholtz dives into a discussion about bailouts, how current airline bailouts compare the bank bailouts in 2008-09, whether the government has made money on bailouts before and what restrictions should be placed on firms who take money from the government. Follow the CFA Society of Orlando on Twitter at @CFAOrlandoFL (0:38) -  Colby Donovan and Steve Curley introduce the podcast (3:55) – History of U.S. bailouts (6:35 – Is this a black swan? (8:42) – Discussion of his recent Bloomberg article (12:30) – Did the government make money on bailouts before? (17:00) - Thoughts on share repurchases (20:18) – How he grades the government’s bailout response in 2020
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Apr 23, 2020 • 37min

Liz Ann Sonders and Steve Curley, CFA - COVID-19: A Y-Shaped Recovery

This episode features Liz Ann Sonders, Chief Investment Strategist at Charles Schwab.  In 1999, Liz Ann joined U.S. Trust—which was acquired by Schwab in 2000—as a Managing Director and member of its Investment Policy Committee. Before U.S. Trust, Liz Ann was a Managing Director and Senior Portfolio Manager at Avatar Associates (1986-1999), an original division of the Zweig/Avatar Group. She was recently named to the inaugural Barron’s “100 Most Influential Women in U.S. Finance.” In this episode, Liz Ann discusses her career path from Zweig/Avatar Group to Charles Schwab, gender diversity within the industry, how she decides what content to read, how she utilizes Twitter day-to-day, why she thinks the recovery will take the shape of a “Y,” and why she thinks diversification is as important as ever right now.  Follow the CFA Society of Orlando on Twitter at @CFAOrlandoFL (0:38) -  Colby Donovan and Steve Curley introduce the podcast (1:26) – Introduce Liz Ann Sonders (1:52) – Her career path (3:16) – Thoughts on gender diversity within finance (7:45) – How she scales herself around the Charles Schwab platform   (13:45) – How she utilizes Twitter  (16:13) – Her typical week and how that may change after social distancing measures are reduced (18:45) – Her thoughts on a possible “Y” shaped recovery (21:02) – Mistakes she could see investors making as the market rebounds (25:00) – What parts of the market she likes long-term (28:35) – Diversification benefits (30:34) – Why she thinks healthcare will drive the U.S.  (31:40) – Follow her on Twitter @LizAnnSonders and read her research here (33:10) – End of episode questions
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Apr 16, 2020 • 35min

Jan van Eck and Steve Curley, CFA: Inside the Mind of an ETF Pioneer

This episode features Jan van Eck, CEO and Director of Van Eck Associates, which manages more than $50 billion. He originally joined the family firm in 1992. In this episode, van Eck discusses the history of his firm, the early days of his career and what led him to eventually join the family business, the future of gold and bitcoin, how his firm decides to launch an ETF, some of his more popular ETFs including e-sports, green bonds and fallen angels, and what the future is for the industry. Follow the CFA Society of Orlando on Twitter at @CFAOrlandoFL (0:38) -  Colby Donovan and Steve Curley introduce the podcast (1:50) – Introduce Jan van Eck (3:20) – His path to joining the family business (6:05) – Why investors need to read more history (10:05) – Thoughts on gold and cryptocurrencies right now (13:50) – Future of a bitcoin ETF (17:30) – How the firm has grown to $50 billion in assets (19:28) – Trends in the industry and with fund flows in 2020 (22:20) – His firms’ e-sports ETF ($ESPO) (24:00) – The firms’ decision-making process of launching a new ETF (25:20) – Importance of understanding China’s economy (27:00) – Next bet for Van Eck Associates (28:35) – Thoughts on Green Bonds (30:15) – What foreign countries offer attractive risk/reward right now (35:10) - What is the most egregious ethics violation you have seen over the course of your career?
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Apr 9, 2020 • 28min

Dr. David Kelly, CFA and Steve Curley, CFA - COVID-19: Pessimist on the Virus, Optimist on the Economy

Our guest today is Dr. David Kelly, the Chief Global Strategist and Head of the Global Market Insights Strategy Team for J.P. Morgan Asset Management. Prior to joining J.P. Morgan Asset Management, David served as Economic Advisor to Putnam Investments, and as Senior Strategist/Economist at SPP Investment Management, Primark Decision Economics, Lehman Brothers and DRI/McGraw-Hill. David is a CFA® charterholder. He also has a Ph.D. and M.A. in Economics from Michigan State University and a B.A. in Economics from University College Dublin in the Republic of Ireland. Dr. Kelly discusses the Guide to the Markets, how he thinks investors should be positioned going forward, what his return expectations are, and how COVID-19 will make long-lasting changes to the economy. Follow the CFA Society of Orlando on Twitter at @CFAOrlandoFL (0:38)  —  Colby Donovan and Steve Curley introduce the podcast (3:00 ) —Introduce Dr. Kelly (3:55) – Why he pursued the CFA designation (6:05) – Background on the Guide to the Markets (10:44) – Reason they started the Insights Podcast a few years ago (12:05) – What he’s learned from studying prior market crises (15:48) – Future return expectations (18:12) – What permanent changes will occur after COVID-19 is behind us (20:12) – Why he is pessimistic on the virus but optimistic on the economy (23:34) – Where to be positioned going forward (25:17) – Where to reach him: Daily Insights updated daily and his LinkedIn page (26:02) - What is the most egregious thing that you have seen in the investment management industry over the course of your career?
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Apr 2, 2020 • 41min

Paul Smith, CFA and Chris Cannon, CFA - COVID-19: Around the World and Back Again

This episode features two guests. The first is Paul Smith, who was previously the President and CEO of the CFA Institute.  Paul has more than 25 years of relevant financial services leadership experience in many aspects of the investment management industry. The second is Chris Cannon, who is the Chief Investment Officer of FirsTrust, an RIA in Daytona Beach, Florida. He is also a board member and the Advocacy Chair for the CFA Society of Orlando. In this episode, Smith covers the current mood in Hong Kong (where he resides) and what he expects to happen when social distancing ceases there, what challenges COVID-19 give the CFA Institute and individual societies, why it is critically important today to avoid the illusion of precision, and what he thinks people should learn while staying at home. Follow the CFA Society of Orlando on Twitter at @CFAOrlandoFL (0:38)  -  Colby Donovan and Chris Cannon introduce the podcast (2:10) – Introduce Paul Smith (4:40) – Current mood in Hong Kong with regards to both social unrest and COVID-19 (8:10) – Challenges the CFA Institute and individual societies are facing while respecting social distancing (14:38) – Impact of COVID-19 on globalization (18:25) – Lessons to be taken from the COVID-19 crisis for individuals and countries (21:33) – The idea that financial analysts have created the illusion of precision (25:35) – Mistakes he’s seen people make in past crises (32:18) – What skills or information should people learn while at home? (35:10) - What is the most egregious ethics violation you have seen over the course of your career?
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Mar 26, 2020 • 42min

Peter Zeihan and Steve Curley - COVID-19: New World Disorder

Our guest today is Peter Zeihan (@PeterZeihan), a geopolitical expert.  He launched his own firm, Zeihan on Geopolitics, in 2012 in order to specialize in customized executive briefings for his clients. Prior to going independent, Zeihan worked for 12 years with the geopolitical analysis firm Stratfor. He has authored multiple books, including his most recent, Disunited Nations. Zeihan discusses the thesis from his most recent book that the world is becoming more de-globalized, how the COVID-19 outbreak is accelerating that process, U.S. and Chinese relations moving forward, thoughts on the November election, relations between Russia and the Saudis, and the importance of the U.S. having the global currency.  Follow the CFA Society of Orlando on Twitter at @CFAOrlandoFL (0:38)  -  Colby Donovan and Steve Curley introduce the podcast (3:20) – Introduce Peter Zeihan and his book, Disunited Nations (6:00) – Where America and China will stand as the world becomes more de-globalized (8:04) – Discussion on his recent tweet about China ousting U.S. reporters (10:08) – Importance of monitoring COVID-19 data from South Korea (13:50) – America’s history of manic-depressive behavior (per his recent bulletin) (15:48) – Timeline for possible vaccine (18:18) – Impact of misinformation about COVID-19 being disseminated from China (per his tweet) (23:20) – Thoughts on the upcoming election (25:15) – Russian and Saudi relations with regarding oil (27:42) – America and the four other countries with a structural geographical advantage (31:52) – Most important countries the U.S. will have relationships going forward (33:40) – Future of manufacturing coming back to the U.S. and Mexico (36:50) – Importance of the U.S. having the global currency (39:00) – Where to learn more about Peter: twitter, book, website, and newsletter (39:40) – What is the most egregious thing that you have seen in the investment management industry over the course of your career?
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Mar 19, 2020 • 30min

Chen Zhao and Steve Curley - COVID- 19, De-risk or Re-risk Your Portfolio?

Our guest today is Chen Zhao, Chief Global Strategist at Alpine Macro. Chen discusses the different factors causing the current economic and financial situation, why the Fed has done their job but it’s time for the government to step in and do theirs, where he’s seeing the best opportunities in the market, and how the coronavirus outbreak impacts the trade war with China. We hope you enjoy.  Follow the CFA Society of Orlando on Twitter at @CFAOrlandoFL 0:38 —  Colby Donovan and Steve Curley introduce the podcast 3:10 – Introduce Chen Zhao 5:00 – Why he believes we need a fiscal response 8:00 – What we can learn from China’s missed opportunity to clamp down early on 11:40 –Thoughts on the Fed’s recent actions and why the U.S. and Europe need a fiscal response 15:43 – Is it time to de-risk or re-risk? 17:20 – Why the government must provide loan guarantees for small and big businesses  20:30 – Where does he see the most opportunity in the market right now? 22:50 – Issues with using outside research 24:15 – Mistakes he’s seen people make during past bear markets 26:35 – Thoughts on the trade war 28:30 – What is the most egregious thing that you have seen in the investment management industry over the course of your career?
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Mar 5, 2020 • 31min

Patrick O’Shaughnessy and Steve Curley - Trail Magic

Our two guests today are Patrick O’Shaughnessy, CEO of O’Shaughnessy Asset Management and host of the Invest Like the Best podcast, and Steve Curley, Chief Investment Officer of WaterOak Advisors and President of the CFA Society of Orlando.  Patrick discusses the recent talk he gave at the 2020 Annual Forecast Dinner and why we all need to avoid becoming “yellow-blazers,” along with other mistakes he frequently sees investors make. We hope you enjoy.  Follow the CFA Society of Orlando on Twitter at @CFAOrlandoFL 0:38 —  Colby Donovan and Steve Curley introduce the podcast 3:03 — Introduce Patrick O’Shaughnessy  4:51 — Patrick tells his “Trail Magic” story 9:10 — General mistakes Patrick sees in the investment industry 11:24 — Advice for newly minted CFA charterholders  14:20 — Mistakes he made when he was younger trying to launch an internal hedge fund 16:30 — Entering the business during the 2008 financial crisis 17:55 — Why OSAM launched Canvas  22:32 — How to handle being pitched private investments 24:48 — How to create checks and balance system for when the market faces volatility [Gradual Improvements Go Unnoticed] 27:22 — What is the most egregious thing that you have seen in the investment management industry over the course of your career?

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