The Legalpreneurs Sandbox

Gen AI has reinvented the legal workforce. We’re seeing old roles expand, new roles emerge and some disappear too. So how is the legal industry preparing for this? What are the new talent strategies, capabilities, perspectives, retrospectives and yes, everything in between? In this podcast, Sam Burrett, Legal Optimisation Consulting at MinterEllison explored the new world of legal talent with these fabulous ‘people centred’ innovators: Jan Christie, Director, Capability + Organisational Development, Gilbert + Tobin Schellie-Jayne (SJ) Price, Partner, Stirling & Rose and CLI Advisory Board Member Nam Truong, Digital + Innovation, Law Squared Tessa van Duyn, CEO and Practice Leader, Moores This podcast was on Day Two of the CLI Legal Generative AI Summit 2023 on 25 October. If you would prefer to watch rather than listen to this episode, you’ll find the video in our CLI-Collaborate (CLIC) free Resource Hub here. Resources mentioned in this episode: Harvard computer science course for lawyers OpenAI prompt engineering course An easier way to experience to functionality of semantic search

The podcast discusses the integration of experimentation into the legal industry, including approaches to experimentation, funding challenges, experiments with document review and drafting, techniques for capturing experiment learnings, creating the right balance in experimentation groups, the use of Co-Pilot for drafting, AI's impact on the legal industry and upskilling lawyers, and the review and extraction process.

What is the new and emerging role of regulatory authorities in a GenAI world? Who should be regulated (lawyers and paralegals)? Should the provision of legal services/products/solutions remain a duopoly? Should tech/AI competency be mandated? What does legal professional responsibility mean in contemporary legal practice? In this podcast, Terri Mottershead, Executive Director at the Centre for Legal Innovation was joined by this outstanding panel and discussed the role of regulation and regulators: Matthew Dunn, General Manager – Advocacy, Guidance and Governance, Queensland Law Society Catherine Gleeson, Barrister, NSW Bar Council Member and Deputy Chair of the NSW Bar News Committee Jeannie Paterson, Professor of Law, University of Melbourne and Co-Director, Centre for Artificial Intelligence and Digital Ethics (CAIDE), University of Melbourne Jennifer Shaw, Partner, Bartier Perry Lawyers and Panel Member of the NSW Law Society’s Professional Conduct Advisory Panel This podcast was on Day One of the CLI Legal Generative AI Summit 2023 on 24 October. If you would prefer to watch rather than listen to this episode, you’ll find the video in our CLI-Collaborate (CLIC) free Resource Hub here.

We’ve heard the stats and see every day the increasing and critical need to improve access to justice. There is much GenAI can do to help but it’s not a perfect solution, or is it? In this podcast, Maya Markovich, Executive Director and Co-founder of the Justice Technology Association and CLI Advisory Board member, analysed and discussed the impact of GenAI in A2J with an amazing panel of community legal sector, pro bono, and low bono specialists: Amy Burton, Head of Pro Bono, Mills Oakley and Managing Lawyer, Everyday Justice Laura Elliott, Pro Bono Senior Associate, DLA Piper Daniel Ghezelbash, Associate Professor, UNSW Law & Justice Noel Lim, Co-Founder and CEO, Anika Legal This podcast was on Day One of the CLI Legal Generative AI Summit 2023 on 24 October. If you would prefer to watch rather than listen to this episode, you’ll find the video in our CLI-Collaborate (CLIC) free Resource Hub here.

Will Generative AI destroy law firms? Only if lawyers are too fixed in their ways to see the possibilities that lie beyond who we've always been and what we've always done. In this podcast, globally renowned legal commentator Jordan Furlong, Principal at Law21, unpacked the challenges and opportunities of a GenAI-fuelled and human-centred legal world, one that is new, different and completely re-envisioned! This podcast was on Day One of the CLI Legal Generative AI Summit 2023 on 24 October. If you would prefer to watch rather than listen to this episode, you’ll find the video in our CLI-Collaborate (CLIC) free Resource Hub here.

Generative AI has dominated tech meetings, conversations, debates and demonstrations this year. We’ve been impressed, intimidated, inspired and disillusioned by the tech, so now almost a year since ChatGPT launched, is GenAI REALLY a game-changer? Is it the ultimate catalyst and influencer? Can it/should it sustain its impact on the legal world through pivotal roles like legal ops? In this podcast, legal ops legend Mary O’Carroll, Chief Community Officer at Ironclad, Inc. and Co-Founder of the Corporate Legal Operations Consortium (CLOC) shared her thoughts, experiences and use cases in response to those questions…as well as launching the Summit! This episode was on Day One of the CLI Legal Generative AI Summit 2023 on 24 October. If you would prefer to watch rather than listen to this episode, you’ll find the video in our CLI-Collaborate (CLIC) free Resource Hub here.

In this podcast, Josh Kubicki discusses the importance of choosing the right AI expert in the legal industry. He emphasizes the need for user-friendly AI tools and inclusivity in generative AI. Josh also shares insights on the business side of law and the value of AI, and reminds listeners to be mindful of organizational policies when using AI.

The title of Marshall Goldsmith’s book (2007) “What Got You Here Won't Get You There,” has become a mantra for change and with good reason – it’s true – we can’t do things differently until we think about and approach them differently. That mindset shift, changing the way we think and do, has never had higher stakes or been more in demand than now, as the legal industry embraces AI. Embracing change doesn’t come easily. It needs to start early. It often starts small and grows. It can be a team builder, collaboration opportunity, and produce unanticipated, positive outcomes. It can start as an idea over coffee. It will develop if it is given the space to breath and is supported by leaders with open minds and an excitement about experimentation. The Lander & Rogers AI Clinical Placement Program in collaboration with Monash University Law School (Dr. Jacqueline Weinberg) is the proof of that concept! We spoke with Courtney Blackman, Head of Partnerships at Lander & Rogers in Australia and the firm’s lead for the Clinic – an experiment and pilot program from the outset, focussed on providing real world experience for law students in what AI can (and can’t do) in a law firm and, identifying use cases the firm could take forward in the process. It’s an amazing law school/legal industry collaboration in experiential learning that has created a unique experience for everyone involved and, we’re very certain, this will be the first of many more amazing AI clinics to come! If you would prefer to watch rather than listen to this podcast, you’ll find the video here. About the Future 50 Series In the Future 50 Series we’re chatting with legalpreneurs who, through their ideas and actions, are challenging and transforming legal BAU all around the world. If you would like to recommend people for this Series, please contact us at: CLI@collaw.edu.au.  

Generative AI has changed the world of legal work forever! That’s a big statement but, we’re seeing proofs of concept daily in multiple services, products and solutions from all types of legal businesses. Those engaging with the tech are building the bridges from concept to implementation. It requires work and, in some cases, lots of it. It starts with getting everyone involved and, it won’t end, ever – that’s the exciting, exhausting and amazing part about it, this tech is very much about ongoing change, transformation and improvement/experimentation. In this session, in the Future 50 Series of the CLI Legalpreneurs Spotlight, we chatted with Lisa Kozaris,  Chief Innovation and Legal Solutions Officer at Allens in Australia about all things emerging tech and how to implement it in a law firm. Lisa’s background in law and curiosity about how it intersects with tech, has turned into a passion, dedication, and practical approach to inspiring others to embrace it. We spoke about some of the important factors to consider in the tech implementation journey like the need for clear guidelines about how to use it; the benefits of encouraging everyone, everywhere to engage with it; the opportunity to showcase talent and outcomes using a multi-disciplinary team collaborative approach to solutions; making sure people feel empowered and excited about unlocking their creativity; then taking time to review and reflect on what to take forward. Lisa and her team have established a blueprint for change, transformation and continuous improvement/experimentation for the firm. It’s an inclusive measured approach, founded on a deep understanding of the challenges and opportunities of tech but, at the same time, focussed squarely on next practices and creating a “new digital front door” for their clients. Airlie, Allens recently launched enterprise version of OpenAI's ChatGPT developed with Microsoft and built on Microsoft's Azure platform, is a recent case in point that we spoke about, and we’re sure it definitely won’t be the last!  If you would prefer to watch rather than listen to this podcast, you’ll find the video here. About the Future 50 Series In the Future 50 Series we’re chatting with legalpreneurs who, through their ideas and actions, are challenging and transforming legal BAU all around the world. If you would like to recommend people for this Series, please contact us at: CLI@collaw.edu.au.  

Abdi Shayesteh, the CEO & Founder of AltaClaro, discusses the need for transformative legal education to bridge the digital literacy gap. He shares his personal journey in law and entrepreneurship, the growth of his company and their partnership with Orick. They also highlight the development of a new course on AI tools for legal professionals and the importance of industry collaborations in transforming legal education.