
Disruptive Forces in Investing
Welcome to Disruptive Forces in Investing, a podcast series featuring Neuberger Berman’s seasoned investors who discuss trends that are transforming the investment industry and beyond.
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Jan 10, 2023 • 31min
The Portfolio Doctor Is In
2022 was filled with numerous challenges. The market saw unparalleled shifts in rates and inflation, all while the geopolitical landscape erupted. With volatility high, many investors grappled with how to approach portfolio construction in times of such unprecedented change. In light of the continued volatility we face in 2023, how could investors craft attractive portfolios? What factors should they keep in mind? Is it possible to build a portfolio that could endure any season? On this episode of Disruptive Forces, host Anu Rajakumar is joined by Maarten Nederlof, Head of Portfolio Solutions, to discuss factors to consider when looking to seek to build resilient portfolios to navigate the difficult markets ahead. This communication is provided for informational purposes only and nothing herein constitutes investment, legal, accounting or tax advice, or a recommendation to buy, sell or hold a security. Information is obtained from sources deemed reliable, but there is no representation or warranty as to its accuracy, completeness or reliability. This communication is not directed at any investor or category of investors and should not be regarded as investment advice or a suggestion to engage in or refrain from any investment-related course of action. Investment decisions should be made based on an investor's individual objectives and circumstances and in consultation with his or her advisors. All information is current as of the date of this material and is subject to change without notice. Any views or opinions expressed may not reflect those of the firm as a whole. Neuberger Berman products and services may not be available in all jurisdictions or to all client types. This material is not intended as a formal research report and should not be relied upon as a basis for making an investment decision. The firm, its employees and advisory accounts may hold positions of any companies discussed. This material may include estimates, outlooks, projections and other “forward-looking statements.” Due to a variety of factors, actual events or market behavior may differ significantly from any views expressed. Investing entails risks, including possible loss of principal. Indexes are unmanaged and are not available for direct investment. Past performance is no guarantee of future results. This material is being issued on a limited basis through various global subsidiaries and affiliates of Neuberger Berman Group LLC. Please visit www.nb.com/disclosure-global-communications for the specific entities and jurisdictional limitations and restrictions. The “Neuberger Berman” name and logo are registered service marks of Neuberger Berman Group LLC. © 2023 Neuberger Berman Group LLC. All rights reserved.

Dec 30, 2022 • 41min
Solving for 2023: How the Tables Have Turned
As we conclude another year of volatile markets, geopolitical turmoil as well as record-setting inflation getting added to the mix, one could say that 2022 was truly an eventful year. But as we reflect on the pivotal events that occurred, what lessons can investors take away as we prepare for the year ahead? Could there be an end in sight for the volatility? And what asset classes might investors want to delve into in the coming year, now more than ever? In this special episode of Disruptive Forces, we turn the tables as our Head of EMEA Investment Writing, Martin Steward, joins the show to moderate our esteemed host, Anu Rajakumar, along with our CIO of Multi-Asset, Erik Knutzen. Collectively, they shed light on the insights they’ve gleaned over the past 12-18 months by covering the key themes that came of 2022 that could help guide investors in 2023 and beyond. This communication is provided for informational purposes only and nothing herein constitutes investment, legal, accounting or tax advice, or a recommendation to buy, sell or hold a security. Information is obtained from sources deemed reliable, but there is no representation or warranty as to its accuracy, completeness or reliability. This communication is not directed at any investor or category of investors and should not be regarded as investment advice or a suggestion to engage in or refrain from any investment-related course of action. Investment decisions should be made based on an investor's individual objectives and circumstances and in consultation with his or her advisors. All information is current as of the date of this material and is subject to change without notice. Any views or opinions expressed may not reflect those of the firm as a whole. Neuberger Berman products and services may not be available in all jurisdictions or to all client types. This material is not intended as a formal research report and should not be relied upon as a basis for making an investment decision. The firm, its employees and advisory accounts may hold positions of any companies discussed. This material may include estimates, outlooks, projections and other “forward-looking statements.” Due to a variety of factors, actual events or market behavior may differ significantly from any views expressed. Investing entails risks, including possible loss of principal. Indexes are unmanaged and are not available for direct investment. Past performance is no guarantee of future results. This material is being issued on a limited basis through various global subsidiaries and affiliates of Neuberger Berman Group LLC. Please visit www.nb.com/disclosure-global-communications for the specific entities and jurisdictional limitations and restrictions. The “Neuberger Berman” name and logo are registered service marks of Neuberger Berman Group LLC. © 2022 Neuberger Berman Group LLC. All rights reserved.

Dec 20, 2022 • 27min
What Goes Up Must Come Down... Right?
As we wrap up on the past year, many would agree that the predominant market trend that impacted investors would have to be inflation. In 2022, inflation levels rose to the highest we have seen in four decades. How did we get here? Looking ahead to 2023, we evaluate how today’s inflation story could play out. When might we expect this principle of gravity to come to fruition? Or is this a new normal that the investment world needs to acclimate to? On this episode of Disruptive Forces, host Anu Rajakumar is joined by Olumide Owolabi, Portfolio Manager for Global Fixed Income, and Raheel Siddiqui, Senior Investment Strategist for Global Equities where they break down the dynamics of today’s inflationary environment and opine on how investors could navigate the market. This communication is provided for informational purposes only and nothing herein constitutes investment, legal, accounting or tax advice, or a recommendation to buy, sell or hold a security. Information is obtained from sources deemed reliable, but there is no representation or warranty as to its accuracy, completeness or reliability. This communication is not directed at any investor or category of investors and should not be regarded as investment advice or a suggestion to engage in or refrain from any investment-related course of action. Investment decisions should be made based on an investor's individual objectives and circumstances and in consultation with his or her advisors. All information is current as of the date of this material and is subject to change without notice. Any views or opinions expressed may not reflect those of the firm as a whole. Neuberger Berman products and services may not be available in all jurisdictions or to all client types. This material is not intended as a formal research report and should not be relied upon as a basis for making an investment decision. The firm, its employees and advisory accounts may hold positions of any companies discussed. This material may include estimates, outlooks, projections and other “forward-looking statements.” Due to a variety of factors, actual events or market behavior may differ significantly from any views expressed. Investing entails risks, including possible loss of principal. Indexes are unmanaged and are not available for direct investment. Past performance is no guarantee of future results. This material is being issued on a limited basis through various global subsidiaries and affiliates of Neuberger Berman Group LLC. Please visit www.nb.com/disclosure-global-communications for the specific entities and jurisdictional limitations and restrictions. The “Neuberger Berman” name and logo are registered service marks of Neuberger Berman Group LLC. © 2022 Neuberger Berman Group LLC. All rights reserved.

Dec 6, 2022 • 20min
Bank of Japan: The G-10 Outlier
As economies around the world are dealing with the effects of inflation, we evaluate if there are differences in how central banks globally are managing the major impact to assets. Out of the Group of Ten, or G-10, countries, one remains an outlier with its particularly dovish stance: the Bank of Japan, or BoJ. What can we take away from how Governor Kuroda is leading the BoJ, while the world experiences the highest levels of inflation seen in decades? And could the yen, which is now at its weakest levels since the 1980s, make a comeback in the near term? In this episode of Disruptive Forces, Head of Portfolio Construction and Risk Management, Tokufumi Kato, PhD, sits with Anu Rajakumar to discuss the Japanese policy nuances as well as implications that investors might want to keep their eyes on... This podcast includes general market commentary, general investment education and general information about Neuberger Berman. It is provided for informational purposes only and nothing herein constitutes investment, legal, accounting or tax advice, or a recommendation to buy, sell or hold a security. This communication is not directed at any investor or category of investors and should not be regarded as investment advice or a suggestion to engage in or refrain from any investment-related course of action. Investment decisions should be made based on an investor's individual objectives and circumstances and in consultation with his or her advisors. Information is obtained from sources deemed reliable, but there is no representation or warranty as to its accuracy, completeness, or reliability. All information is current as of the date of recording and is subject to change without notice. Any views or opinions expressed may not reflect those of the firm as a whole. This material may include estimates, outlooks, projections and other “forward-looking statements.” Due to a variety of factors, actual events or market behavior may differ significantly from any views expressed. Neuberger Berman products and services may not be available in all jurisdictions or to all client types. Diversification does not guarantee profit or protect against loss in declining markets. Investing entails risks including the possible loss of principal. Investments in hedge funds and private equity are speculative, involve a higher degree of risk than more traditional investments and are intended for sophisticated investors only. Indexes are unmanaged and are not available for direct investment. Past performance is no guarantee of future results. Discussions of any specific sectors and companies are for informational purposes only. This material is not intended as a formal research report and should not be relied upon as a basis for making an investment decision. The firm, its employees and advisory accounts may hold positions of any companies discussed. Specific securities identified and described do not represent all of the securities purchased, sold or recommended for advisory clients. It should not be assumed that any investments in securities, companies, sectors or markets identified and described were or will be profitable. Any discussion of environmental, social and governance (ESG) factor and ratings are for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for making an investment decision. ESG factors are one of many factors that may be considered when making investment decisions. This material is being issued on a limited basis through various global subsidiaries and affiliates of Neuberger Berman Group LLC. Please visit http://www.nb.com/disclosure-global-communications for the specific entities and jurisdictional limitations and restrictions. The “Neuberger Berman” name and logo are registered service marks of Neuberger Berman Group LLC. © 2022 Neuberger Berman Group LLC. All rights reserved.

Nov 8, 2022 • 15min
Could Liquid Alternatives Provide Answers?
As we continue to navigate the current challenging investment environment, we look at the aspects of various asset class categories that could provide insight. As we transition into this new regime, investor demand for diversifiers have come into focus. Could liquid alternatives such as hedge funds, which typically have low beta and correlations to traditional markets, be a part of the solution? How do investors seek uncorrelated diversifiers in this environment going forward and where are the opportunities within this asset class? On this episode of Disruptive Forces, host Anu Rajakumar is joined by Paresh Shah, a member of our Alternative Investment Management Team, to discuss navigating the current market environment in the near and medium term, as well as how to incorporate more elements of liquidity into investor portfolios. This communication is provided for informational purposes only and nothing herein constitutes investment, legal, accounting or tax advice, or a recommendation to buy, sell or hold a security. Information is obtained from sources deemed reliable, but there is no representation or warranty as to its accuracy, completeness or reliability. This communication is not directed at any investor or category of investors and should not be regarded as investment advice or a suggestion to engage in or refrain from any investment-related course of action. Investment decisions should be made based on an investor's individual objectives and circumstances and in consultation with his or her advisors. All information is current as of the date of this material and is subject to change without notice. Any views or opinions expressed may not reflect those of the firm as a whole. Neuberger Berman products and services may not be available in all jurisdictions or to all client types. This material is not intended as a formal research report and should not be relied upon as a basis for making an investment decision. The firm, its employees and advisory accounts may hold positions of any companies discussed. This material may include estimates, outlooks, projections and other “forward-looking statements.” Due to a variety of factors, actual events or market behavior may differ significantly from any views expressed. Investing entails risks, including possible loss of principal. Indexes are unmanaged and are not available for direct investment. Past performance is no guarantee of future results. This material is being issued on a limited basis through various global subsidiaries and affiliates of Neuberger Berman Group LLC. Please visit www.nb.com/disclosure-global-communications for the specific entities and jurisdictional limitations and restrictions. The “Neuberger Berman” name and logo are registered service marks of Neuberger Berman Group LLC. © 2022 Neuberger Berman Group LLC. All rights reserved.

Oct 26, 2022 • 12min
Building on Infrastructure Investing
Over the last few years, the world has been through a tumultuous journey of various disruptive forces: a pandemic, geopolitical turmoil and policy shifts, among others, to which investors have had to rethink their portfolio construction. Infrastructure, a relatively newer asset class within the private equity universe, has intrinsic properties that allow investors to diversify in new ways. Headlines across the world have spoken to government-led infrastructure initiatives, but how does someone invest in infrastructure? And in what ways can investors see the investment’s impact come to life? In this episode of Disruptive Forces, Head of Infrastructure Investing, J. Michael McCarthy, joins Anu Rajakumar to share more about how private infrastructure investing came to be, and to demystify the misconceptions of this asset class that actually can provide an intriguing opportunity set to investors today. This general market summary and the opinions and beliefs expressed in this podcast are provided for general informational purposes only. Nothing herein constitutes investment, legal, accounting or tax advice, or a recommendation to buy, sell or hold a security, and the views and beliefs expressed are not intended to predict or guarantee the future performance of any individual security, market sector or the markets generally. This presentation is general in nature and is not directed to any category of investors and should not be regarded as individualized, a recommendation, investment advice or a suggestion to engage in or refrain from any investment-related course of action. Investment decisions and the appropriateness of this presentation should be made based on an investor's individual objectives and circumstances and in consultation with his or her advisors. Information is obtained from sources deemed reliable, but there is no representation or warranty as to its accuracy, completeness or reliability, and has not been independently verified. All information, opinions and beliefs set forth in this presentation are current as of the date of this presentation and are subject to change without notice. We do not undertake to advise you of any change in the opinions and beliefs or the information contained in this presentation. Any views or opinions expressed may not reflect those of the firm as a whole. We may issue presentations or have opinions that are inconsistent with, and reach different conclusions from, this presentation. No representation is made that any investment process, investment objectives, goals or risk management techniques discussed herein will or are likely to be achieved or successful. Any forward-looking opinions, beliefs, estimates, assumptions, outlooks, projections, assessments, or similar statements (collectively, “Statements”), constitute only subjective views, estimations or intentions, should not be relied on, are subject to change due to many factors, including fluctuating market conditions and economic factors. Such Statements involve inherent risks, many of which cannot be predicted or quantified and are beyond our control. Future evidence and actual results could differ materially from those set forth in, contemplated by, or underlying these Statements, which are subject to change without notice. Considering the foregoing, there can be no assurance and no representation is given that these Statements are now, or will prove to be, accurate or complete. Neuberger Berman undertakes no responsibility or obligation to revise or update such Statements. Neuberger Berman products and services may not be available in all jurisdictions or to all client types. Diversification does not guarantee profit or protect against loss in declining markets. Investing entails risks, including possible loss of principal. Indexes are unmanaged and are not available for direct investment. Investments in hedge funds, private equity and other private funds are speculative and involve more risk than more traditional investments. Investments in hedge funds, private equity and other private funds are intended for sophisticated investors only. Past performance is no guarantee of future results. Portfolio, volatility or return targets or objectives, if any, are used solely for illustration, measurement or comparison purposes. Such targets or objectives reflect subjective determinations based on a variety of factors including, among others, strategy and prior performance (if any), volatility measures, portfolio characteristics and risk, and market conditions. Volatility and performance will fluctuate, including over short periods, and should be evaluated over the time indicated and not over shorter periods. Performance targets or objectives should not be relied upon as an indication of actual or projected future performance. Actual volatility and returns will depend on a variety of factors including overall market conditions and the ability of to implement the contemplated investment process, investment objectives and risk management. No representation is made that these targets or objectives will be achieved, in whole or in part. This material is being issued on a limited basis through various global subsidiaries and affiliates of Neuberger Berman Group LLC. Please visit www.nb.com/disclosure-global-communications for the specific entities and jurisdictional limitations and restrictions. The “Neuberger Berman” name and logo are registered service marks of Neuberger Berman Group LLC. © 2022 Neuberger Berman Group LLC. All rights reserved.

Oct 11, 2022 • 16min
Making Sense of Markets and Policy Change
Week after week, we’ve been watching the constant changes in headlines as global markets change their policy stances. From the U.S. Federal Reserve hiking rates 75 basis points to the Bank of England’s historic fiscal stimulus package both announced last month, how should investors make sense of policy actions occurring around the world right now? What are the implications for their portfolios looking ahead? On this episode of Disruptive Forces, host Anu Rajakumar is joined by Robert Dishner, Senior Portfolio Manager for Multi-Sector Fixed Income, to discuss current volatile market dynamics and the associated challenges as we head toward the end of the year. This podcast includes general market commentary, general investment education and general information about Neuberger Berman. It is provided for informational purposes only and nothing herein constitutes investment, legal, accounting or tax advice, or a recommendation to buy, sell or hold a security. This communication is not directed at any investor or category of investors and should not be regarded as investment advice or a suggestion to engage in or refrain from any investment-related course of action. Investment decisions should be made based on an investor's individual objectives and circumstances and in consultation with his or her advisors. Information is obtained from sources deemed reliable, but there is no representation or warranty as to its accuracy, completeness, or reliability. All information is current as of the date of recording and is subject to change without notice. Any views or opinions expressed may not reflect those of the firm as a whole. This material may include estimates, outlooks, projections and other “forward-looking statements.” Due to a variety of factors, actual events or market behavior may differ significantly from any views expressed. Neuberger Berman products and services may not be available in all jurisdictions or to all client types. Diversification does not guarantee profit or protect against loss in declining markets. Investing entails risks including the possible loss of principal. Investments in hedge funds and private equity are speculative, involve a higher degree of risk than more traditional investments and are intended for sophisticated investors only. Indexes are unmanaged and are not available for direct investment. Past performance is no guarantee of future results. Discussions of any specific sectors and companies are for informational purposes only. This material is not intended as a formal research report and should not be relied upon as a basis for making an investment decision. The firm, its employees and advisory accounts may hold positions of any companies discussed. Specific securities identified and described do not represent all of the securities purchased, sold or recommended for advisory clients. It should not be assumed that any investments in securities, companies, sectors or markets identified and described were or will be profitable. Any discussion of environmental, social and governance (ESG) factor and ratings are for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for making an investment decision. ESG factors are one of many factors that may be considered when making investment decisions. This material is being issued on a limited basis through various global subsidiaries and affiliates of Neuberger Berman Group LLC. Please visit http://www.nb.com/disclosure-global-communications for the specific entities and jurisdictional limitations and restrictions. The “Neuberger Berman” name and logo are registered service marks of Neuberger Berman Group LLC. © 2022 Neuberger Berman Group LLC. All rights reserved.

Sep 27, 2022 • 23min
Investing at a Crossroads
For the past 40 years, the global economy has seemed to benefit from the tailwinds of moderate inflation, low-interest rates, globalization and intensive growth. But due to the many disruptive forces that have impacted our society, these winds have changed. How can asset allocators change their approach with the goal of achieving better outcomes amid today’s investment landscape? And what opportunities might be worth exploring as these new market conditions continue to persist? On this episode of Disruptive Forces, host Anu Rajakumar is joined by her Multi-Asset colleagues, Erik Knutzen and Niall O’Sullivan, Chief Investment Officers of Global Multi-Asset Strategies and EMEA Multi-Asset Strategies respectively, to share their insights on how today’s challenges are placing investors at a crossroads, and in what ways the current playbook might need to be changed… This communication is provided for informational purposes only and nothing herein constitutes investment, legal, accounting or tax advice, or a recommendation to buy, sell or hold a security. Information is obtained from sources deemed reliable, but there is no representation or warranty as to its accuracy, completeness or reliability. This communication is not directed at any investor or category of investors and should not be regarded as investment advice or a suggestion to engage in or refrain from any investment-related course of action. Investment decisions should be made based on an investor's individual objectives and circumstances and in consultation with his or her advisors. All information is current as of the date of this material and is subject to change without notice. Any views or opinions expressed may not reflect those of the firm as a whole. Neuberger Berman products and services may not be available in all jurisdictions or to all client types. This material is not intended as a formal research report and should not be relied upon as a basis for making an investment decision. The firm, its employees and advisory accounts may hold positions of any companies discussed. This material may include estimates, outlooks, projections and other “forward-looking statements.” Due to a variety of factors, actual events or market behavior may differ significantly from any views expressed. Investing entails risks, including possible loss of principal. Indexes are unmanaged and are not available for direct investment. Past performance is no guarantee of future results. This material is being issued on a limited basis through various global subsidiaries and affiliates of Neuberger Berman Group LLC. Please visit www.nb.com/disclosure-global-communications for the specific entities and jurisdictional limitations and restrictions. The “Neuberger Berman” name and logo are registered service marks of Neuberger Berman Group LLC. © 2022 Neuberger Berman Group LLC. All rights reserved.

Sep 13, 2022 • 20min
Inside the Psyche of the Connected Consumer
With the impact of the current inflationary environment at hand, we look at the latest cohort of consumers: Generations Y and Z. These two baby boomer-sized generations have given us insights into how consumerism has evolved today. What else might investors want to know as they continue to incorporate today’s top brands into their portfolios? And can these consumer spending trends help to stabilize the global economy? On this episode of Disruptive Forces, Kevin McCarthy and John San Marco, Senior Research Analysts and Portfolio Managers, join the show with Anu Rajakumar to discuss their views on how this consumer spending megatrend is shifting the retail landscape. This podcast includes general market commentary, general investment education and general information about Neuberger Berman. It is provided for informational purposes only and nothing herein constitutes investment, legal, accounting or tax advice, or a recommendation to buy, sell or hold a security. This communication is not directed at any investor or category of investors and should not be regarded as investment advice or a suggestion to engage in or refrain from any investment-related course of action. Investment decisions should be made based on an investor's individual objectives and circumstances and in consultation with his or her advisors. Information is obtained from sources deemed reliable, but there is no representation or warranty as to its accuracy, completeness, or reliability. All information is current as of the date of recording and is subject to change without notice. Any views or opinions expressed may not reflect those of the firm as a whole. This material may include estimates, outlooks, projections and other “forward-looking statements.” Due to a variety of factors, actual events or market behavior may differ significantly from any views expressed. Neuberger Berman products and services may not be available in all jurisdictions or to all client types. Diversification does not guarantee profit or protect against loss in declining markets. Investing entails risks including the possible loss of principal. Investments in hedge funds and private equity are speculative, involve a higher degree of risk than more traditional investments and are intended for sophisticated investors only. Indexes are unmanaged and are not available for direct investment. Past performance is no guarantee of future results. Discussions of any specific sectors and companies are for informational purposes only. This material is not intended as a formal research report and should not be relied upon as a basis for making an investment decision. The firm, its employees and advisory accounts may hold positions of any companies discussed. Specific securities identified and described do not represent all of the securities purchased, sold or recommended for advisory clients. It should not be assumed that any investments in securities, companies, sectors or markets identified and described were or will be profitable. Any discussion of environmental, social and governance (ESG) factor and ratings are for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for making an investment decision. ESG factors are one of many factors that may be considered when making investment decisions. This material is being issued on a limited basis through various global subsidiaries and affiliates of Neuberger Berman Group LLC. Please visit http://www.nb.com/disclosure-global-communications for the specific entities and jurisdictional limitations and restrictions. The “Neuberger Berman” name and logo are registered service marks of Neuberger Berman Group LLC. © 2022 Neuberger Berman Group LLC. All rights reserved.

Aug 30, 2022 • 17min
How the Space Economy Is Achieving Liftoff
In the 65 years since Sputnik launched, many people on Earth have been curious as to what is attainable to us within our solar system. Though in recent years, the emergence of the “Space Economy” has provided more context into what market opportunities are getting created from this rapidly growing industry. While space tourism has captured most of the headlines, what are some of the other subsectors within the Space Economy that investors may want to have on their radar? On this episode of Disruptive Forces, we bring back Michael Barr, Senior Research Analyst and Portfolio Manager for Aerospace and Transportation, to share more with Anu Rajakumar on the evolution of this industry and its growth potential to investors as well as businesses across the universe. This podcast includes general market commentary, general investment education and general information about Neuberger Berman. It is provided for informational purposes only and nothing herein constitutes investment, legal, accounting or tax advice, or a recommendation to buy, sell or hold a security. This communication is not directed at any investor or category of investors and should not be regarded as investment advice or a suggestion to engage in or refrain from any investment-related course of action. Investment decisions should be made based on an investor's individual objectives and circumstances and in consultation with his or her advisors. Information is obtained from sources deemed reliable, but there is no representation or warranty as to its accuracy, completeness, or reliability. All information is current as of the date of recording and is subject to change without notice. Any views or opinions expressed may not reflect those of the firm as a whole. This material may include estimates, outlooks, projections and other “forward-looking statements.” Due to a variety of factors, actual events or market behavior may differ significantly from any views expressed. Neuberger Berman products and services may not be available in all jurisdictions or to all client types. Diversification does not guarantee profit or protect against loss in declining markets. Investing entails risks including the possible loss of principal. Investments in hedge funds and private equity are speculative, involve a higher degree of risk than more traditional investments and are intended for sophisticated investors only. Indexes are unmanaged and are not available for direct investment. Past performance is no guarantee of future results. Discussions of any specific sectors and companies are for informational purposes only. This material is not intended as a formal research report and should not be relied upon as a basis for making an investment decision. The firm, its employees and advisory accounts may hold positions of any companies discussed. Specific securities identified and described do not represent all of the securities purchased, sold or recommended for advisory clients. It should not be assumed that any investments in securities, companies, sectors or markets identified and described were or will be profitable. Any discussion of environmental, social and governance (ESG) factor and ratings are for informational purposes only and should not be relied upon as a basis for making an investment decision. ESG factors are one of many factors that may be considered when making investment decisions. This material is being issued on a limited basis through various global subsidiaries and affiliates of Neuberger Berman Group LLC. Please visit http://www.nb.com/disclosure-global-communications for the specific entities and jurisdictional limitations and restrictions. The “Neuberger Berman” name and logo are registered service marks of Neuberger Berman Group LLC. © 2022 Neuberger Berman Group LLC. All rights reserved.