We all know Heather Gay as our blunt, relatable best friend (with a mysterious black eye *eye roll*) on "Real Housewives of Salt Lake City" and as the founder of Beauty Lab & Laser (with the legendary parking lot). But some of her actual friends, family and community see her as nothing but a “Bad Mormon”.    If you watch Real Housewives of Salt Lake City you know that most of Heather’s storyline for her past three seasons on the show has revolved around her experience untangling herself and beliefs from that of the Mormon Church and exposing the brutal repercussions her vocalness about her departure has had on both her personal life and relationships. Heather was born into Mormonism and has spent most of her life wrestling with a gnawing feeling that she “didn’t fit” the mold of a “good” Mormon woman. In more recent years, while simultaneously accepting a starring role on Bravo’s hit show RHOSLC, Heather has officially filed to withdraw from the church, start her life anew, and…WRITE A BOOK detailing the secrets, darkness.  With writing that is vulnerable, witty, and painfully truthful Heather details her innermost thoughts and internal tug-of-war between duty to self and duty to God. Exposing secrets she once held sacred, “Bad Mormon” is an unfiltered look at the religion that broke her heart. Download this episode of Tell Me About It with Jade Iovine wherever you get your podcasts! And to continue the conversation DM me: https://www.instagram.com/jadeiovine/   Executive Producer Nick Stumpf Produced by Catherine Law Edited and Engineered by Brandon Dickert Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

*TRIGGER WARNING: SEXUAL ABUSE*   This week Cheryl Burke joined us and we both did what we do best: we overshared.    Cheryl and I discussed the whirlwind that has been the last few years of her life. Between leaving Dancing With The Stars, the show she was on for 26 seasons (!!), and navigating a public divorce, fighting her ex for custody of their dog, getting sober, maintaining her sobriety, and launching a brand new YouTube show called “Diving Deep”–Cheryl has conquered it all with grace and most importantly…with newfound peace.   Cheryl bravely walked us through her “rock bottom” and the traumas of her childhood including suffering sexual abuse from a man her parents had hired to babysit her. She explained the effect that had on her early relationships and the journey of healing she’s gone on since.    There are so many layers of this episode and I’m so grateful to Cheryl for her honesty.  To watch Cheryl’s new show “Diving Deep” click here!   Download this episode of Tell Me About It with Jade Iovine wherever you get your podcasts! And to continue the conversation DM me: https://www.instagram.com/jadeiovine/   Executive Producer Nick Stumpf Produced by Catherine Law Edited and Engineered by Brandon Dickert Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

We’re cooking up something different for you guys this week on TMAI. This week I decided to let my wedding-stressed brain fly free and give you one of the most random episodes this show has ever seen.    I’ve been collecting some of the greatest (and, arguably, weirdest) questions to ask people you're getting to know, meeting for the first time, or have known forever. Valentine's Day is coming up, maybe you have a couple first dates on the horizon, maybe your New Year's resolution was to make more friends and you’re looking for some ice-breakers to have on hand in case there’s one too many awkward silences? If any of these things apply to you…LOOK NO FURTHER my fellow socially anxious friends, I have a solution!   We also talk about emotional metabolisms, the best documentaries I’ve ever seen, and why I suck at starting new things. Download this episode of Tell Me About It with Jade Iovine wherever you get your podcasts! And to continue the conversation DM me: https://www.instagram.com/jadeiovine/   Executive Producer Nick Stumpf Produced by Catherine Law Edited and Engineered by Brandon Dickert Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Catherine and I are back (in bed) and ready to commiserate like the good lord intended! Over the holidays I made a list of everything I wanted to vent to you guys about and we almost couldn’t fit it all in one episode. The juice is loose, the tea is spilled, and Catherine and I covered everything from what’s definitely “out” in 2023 how to deal with cheating rumors, going through people’s phones, friendship disappointment, and SO SO much more. I’m so excited for you to hear this one, it’s filled to the brim with the most brutal kind of honesty, the kind I know only you guys will understand…. Download this episode of Tell Me About It with Jade Iovine wherever you get your podcasts! And to continue the conversation DM me: https://www.instagram.com/jadeiovine/   Executive Producer Nick Stumpf Produced by Catherine Law Edited and Engineered by Brandon Dickert Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

She’s a mogul, a model and best of all she’s a mom. If you get that reference from Kimora: Life in The Fab Lane, then we can be best friends because that show was, and is, everything to me.    Kimora, whether she likes it or not, is made for reality TV. And as a Housewives fanatic, I had to beg her one last time to see if there is any chance she would ever agree to be on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills… and on this episode, we’ll finally get an answer. We talked about female friendships and romantic relationships, and Kimora gives us alllllll the lessons that she, as she put it, had to learn “the hard way”.   We discussed the concept of emasculating a partner, shrinking behind the power and control of someone you love, knowing when enough is enough, and how to maintain your independence by any and all means necessary. As most of us know, Kimora gives it to you straight, no chaser - and she brought that same iconically blunt energy into our conversation.    In this episode she gives us the pump-up pep talk of our dreams, and explains how she took her childhood growing up with a single mom, where she felt inherently “different”, and spun it into becoming the strong, unshakable force of nature we see when we look at Kimora today.  Download this episode of Tell Me About It with Jade Iovine wherever you get your podcasts! And to continue the conversation DM me: https://www.instagram.com/jadeiovine/   Executive Producer Nick Stumpf Produced by Catherine Law Edited and Engineered by Brandon Dickert Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Welcome, welcome, welcome to our last episode until 2023!!!   I invited Catherine to shoot the sh*t with me one last time before this year ends and well, we came ready and rageful.   We talked about our experiences confronting friends, family, and even strangers, betraying ourselves, nostalgia about the way our holidays used to be, how an argument I had made me feel weird for a week straight, why having an avoidant attachment style impacts all our relationships, and my theory about responding to text messages.   I’ll miss you but fear not, we’ll be reunited and back with brand spankin’ new episodes on January 10th!   Download this episode of Tell Me About It with Jade Iovine wherever you get your podcasts! And to continue the conversation DM me: https://www.instagram.com/jadeiovine/   Executive Producer Nick Stumpf Produced by Catherine Law Edited and Engineered by Brandon Dickert Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This title really speaks to my vibe this month, hanging on for dear life through the holiday season, just doin’ my damn best…   BUT I’m so insanely excited for you guys to hear today’s episode with country pop sensation Kelsea Ballerini!   She’s my people-pleasing, perfectionist, anxious 29-year-old soul-sister who struggles in ways I know we can all relate to. We had an incredibly honest and real conversation, so much so that I think we both forgot we were recording a podcast for thousands of people to hear.    We talked about her whirlwind of a year, releasing a chart-topping album (go listen to it, it's amazing…) and announcing her divorce shortly thereafter.   She confessed how she’s really feeling these days and how she’s navigating this transition in real time. She is a hero for being so open and I know her honesty about this tricky topic is going to set so many other women free of the shame and stigma of divorce at 29 or at any age, quite frankly.    We analyzed our chronic people pleasing, female friendships and how her friendships with other famous people have changed in recent years. We talked about the absolute worst moment she’s had online, the various types of hate she gets today, and of course why being an empath can royally suck sometimes.   Kelsea is giving a voice to people who have to make this objectively hard decision to choose themselves at an age when we’re conditioned to believe we should have it “all figured out”–I’m forever grateful to her and I loved every second of our conversation.    Listen to Kelsea’s album Subject to Change here.    Download this episode of Tell Me About It with Jade Iovine wherever you get your podcasts! And to continue the conversation DM me: https://www.instagram.com/jadeiovine/   Produced by Catherine Law Edited and Engineered by Brandon Dickert Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

I don’t know how we got here so quickly, but it’s officially December, and we’re knee-deep in the holidays. While the holidays are a time for celebrating and festive feelings, for most, it’s impossible to think of the holidays without missing someone. This time of year can remind us of people who aren’t in our lives any more and those who have passed away and it can be daunting to try to balance Christmas cheer with the emotions that accompany crippling grief.    SO, I thought this was the perfect time for us to talk to grief advocate Marisa Renee Lee.    But let me preface this by saying...This episode is definitely not just for someone who’s in the midst of their own grief, it's JUST as much for those of us who love someone going through it. We always want so desperately to say or do the right thing by them, but it’s easy to feel that anything we might say or do falls short. And in this episode, Marisa gives us concrete advice on how to comfort a friend, as well as what not to do.   Marisa Renee Lee is a called-upon grief advocate, entrepreneur, and bestselling author of "Grief is Love: Living with Loss." If you ask me, I think this book should be read by absolutely everyone.   Dubbed "the friend we all wish we had in times of need", Marisa uses research-based wisdom to help us navigate the complicated and dark emotions we face when experiencing loss.   In addition to her work in the grief space, Lee is a former appointee in the Obama White House and CEO of Beacon Advisors, a mission-driven consulting firm primarily focused on racial equity, former managing director of My Brother's Keeper Alliance; co-founder of the digital platform Supportal; and founder of The Pink Agenda, a national organization dedicated to raising money for breast cancer care, research, and awareness.   In this episode Marisa explains:   What different flavors of grief actually feel like  How to support a grieving friend and, most importantly, what NOT to say/do… Anticipatory grief  Why you should continue the relationship with a person who has passed - how to do it  The differences between grieving someone who died unexpectedly/suddenly and someone dying from a long illness    Check out Marisa’s book here.   Download this episode of Tell Me About It with Jade Iovine wherever you get your podcasts! And to continue the conversation DM me: https://www.instagram.com/jadeiovine/   Executive Producer Nick Stumpf Produced by Catherine Law Edited and Engineered by Brandon Dickert Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This episode is a little different than what we’re usually cooking up over here on TMAI. As some of you know I had my bachelorette party recently and because I, myself, remember a solid 20% of it, I thought I’d have a more reliable narrator (Catherine) swoop in and help me spill all the juicy details of that wild, wild night.    From celebrity guests to penis cakes, this episode has it all (wrapped up in a minisode package)!    Can’t wait to get back to our regularly scheduled programming next week, but I miss you extra during the holidays, so I wanted to pop in and tell you alllll about it.  Download this episode of Tell Me About It with Jade Iovine wherever you get your podcasts! And to continue the conversation DM me: https://www.instagram.com/jadeiovine/   Executive Producer Nick Stumpf Produced by Catherine Law Edited and Engineered by Brandon Dickert Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Happy Thanksgiving my angels!!   In honor of us all surviving and thriving this holiday I thought I’d have us revisit the iconic Paris Hilton episode.    I hope you love this episode as much as I do and I can’t wait to see you back here next week for some newness! Xxx   Download this episode of Tell Me About It with Jade Iovine wherever you get your podcasts! And to continue the conversation DM me: https://www.instagram.com/jadeiovine/   Executive Producer Nick Stumpf Produced by Catherine Law Edited and Engineered by Brandon Dickert Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.