This episode could NOT have come at a better time. Brilliant poet Cleo Wade joins us under the covers and she BLEW. MY. MIND. 

I don’t know about you guys, but when I hear the term self-love, I roll my eyes. Not because it’s not the most valuable thing in the world, but because until I talked to Cleo, it felt like a battle we either win or lose… and it always felt hard to grasp. 

Cleo and I talk about wrestling with change and romanticizing or hating the person we used to be. We also dive into how hard it is to love yourself when you don’t feel like yourself and how to stop waiting for permission. 

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Executive Producers Jade Iovine + Catherine Law

Audio Engineer Brandon Dickert

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