
DBT & Me
Dialectical Behavior Therapy (DBT) was created by a woman named Marsha Linehan in the 1980s. The skills she created are now taught all over the world. DBT can improve depression, anxiety, borderline personality disorder, and other mental health struggles. We are Kate and Michelle, two mental health therapists in Seattle, WA. We have been teaching DBT groups as a team for years. Whether you've never heard of DBT before or are experienced with DBT skills, this podcast is here to help you use DBT skills in your daily life.
Latest episodes

Jul 14, 2025 • 49min
Q & A Episode 70
Kate and Michelle answer listener questions about feeling afraid to be happy, determining when coping skills are helpful, using DBT for gaslighting, and accepting strong feelings even when skills are being used. Support the showIf you want to sign up for Kate's free DBT peer support group, you can sign up here: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/dbt-discussion-group-tickets-518237601617Check out our Etsy shop for DBT-inspired items and our journaling workbook (only $7.50!): https://www.etsy.com/shop/dbtandmeOur book, "DBT for Everyone" is available! Order your copy on Amazon here: https://www.amazon.com/Dbt-Everyone-Pitfalls-Possibilities-Better/dp/1839975881/Consider providing ongoing support to the podcast by becoming a patron at https://www.patreon.com/dbtandmeYou can join our facebook community here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/dbtandmepodcastCheck out our other podcast, The Couch and The Chair, on Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-couch-and-the-chair/id1554159244) or on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3MZ8aZPoRKxGmLtFcR4S4O)If you need support/have questions, email us at dbtandmepodcast@gmail.com

Jun 25, 2025 • 1h 20min
Using Skills We Struggle With
Kate and Michelle are passionate about normalizing that there will inevitably be DBT skills that aren't a good fit for everyone and that you're not going to like every skill. In this episode, they each open up about 3 skills that they struggle to use and/or dislike. They went outside of their comfort zone to intentionally use each skill recently and they discuss what those experiences were like. They also share some suggestions for how you can successfully do the same in your own life with skills you struggle with. TRIGGER WARNING: Material that may be triggering is discussed from 11:02-11:11 and 15:33-15:40.Support the showIf you want to sign up for Kate's free DBT peer support group, you can sign up here: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/dbt-discussion-group-tickets-518237601617Check out our Etsy shop for DBT-inspired items and our journaling workbook (only $7.50!): https://www.etsy.com/shop/dbtandmeOur book, "DBT for Everyone" is available! Order your copy on Amazon here: https://www.amazon.com/Dbt-Everyone-Pitfalls-Possibilities-Better/dp/1839975881/Consider providing ongoing support to the podcast by becoming a patron at https://www.patreon.com/dbtandmeYou can join our facebook community here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/dbtandmepodcastCheck out our other podcast, The Couch and The Chair, on Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-couch-and-the-chair/id1554159244) or on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3MZ8aZPoRKxGmLtFcR4S4O)If you need support/have questions, email us at dbtandmepodcast@gmail.com

May 28, 2025 • 1h 3min
Revisiting Wise Mind
Kate and Michelle share how they are currently using wise mind in their lives before discussing 3 updates they want to make to how they originally spoke about wise mind in episode 2. They end the episode by sharing 6 new ideas for how to find wise mind that they have not talked about before. Support the showIf you want to sign up for Kate's free DBT peer support group, you can sign up here: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/dbt-discussion-group-tickets-518237601617Check out our Etsy shop for DBT-inspired items and our journaling workbook (only $7.50!): https://www.etsy.com/shop/dbtandmeOur book, "DBT for Everyone" is available! Order your copy on Amazon here: https://www.amazon.com/Dbt-Everyone-Pitfalls-Possibilities-Better/dp/1839975881/Consider providing ongoing support to the podcast by becoming a patron at https://www.patreon.com/dbtandmeYou can join our facebook community here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/dbtandmepodcastCheck out our other podcast, The Couch and The Chair, on Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-couch-and-the-chair/id1554159244) or on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3MZ8aZPoRKxGmLtFcR4S4O)If you need support/have questions, email us at dbtandmepodcast@gmail.com

May 12, 2025 • 54min
Q & A Episode 69
Kate and Michelle answer listener questions about dealing with invalidation from others, positive attributes of DBT facilitators, conversations with family members who ignore boundaries, managing obsessive thoughts about health anxiety. TRIGGER WARNING: Material that may be triggering is discussed from 24:00 to 25:17 Support the showIf you want to sign up for Kate's free DBT peer support group, you can sign up here: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/dbt-discussion-group-tickets-518237601617Check out our Etsy shop for DBT-inspired items and our journaling workbook (only $7.50!): https://www.etsy.com/shop/dbtandmeOur book, "DBT for Everyone" is available! Order your copy on Amazon here: https://www.amazon.com/Dbt-Everyone-Pitfalls-Possibilities-Better/dp/1839975881/Consider providing ongoing support to the podcast by becoming a patron at https://www.patreon.com/dbtandmeYou can join our facebook community here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/dbtandmepodcastCheck out our other podcast, The Couch and The Chair, on Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-couch-and-the-chair/id1554159244) or on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3MZ8aZPoRKxGmLtFcR4S4O)If you need support/have questions, email us at dbtandmepodcast@gmail.com

6 snips
Apr 30, 2025 • 1h 6min
DBT and Limerence
The hosts dive into the perplexing world of limerence, exploring its obsessive nature and differences from healthy infatuations. They share personal stories and insights on how DBT skills can help manage the emotional rollercoaster associated with being infatuated. The conversation highlights techniques for self-reflection and mindfulness, encouraging listeners to recognize unhealthy patterns and build emotional resilience. With humor and personal anecdotes, they create a relatable space for understanding these intense feelings.

Mar 26, 2025 • 1h 37min
Radical Acceptance When Relationships End
Accepting the ending of any kind of relationship can be extremely challenging and filled with grief. Kate and Michelle share personal experiences of struggling with and practicing radical acceptance with friendship losses they've experienced in recent years. They also each share reflections on how radical acceptance can be practiced when a relationship ends and other DBT skills that may help. Magic Mind is a mental performance shot designed to help you maintain focus and reduce stress with less caffeine than a cup of coffee, B vitamins and other all natural ingredients. Use our promo code to get 48% off your first subscription OR 20% off a one-time order at https://www.magicmind.com/DBTMAR20 by using code DBMAR20 (make sure to use all caps!) at checkout. Support the showIf you want to sign up for Kate's free DBT peer support group, you can sign up here: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/dbt-discussion-group-tickets-518237601617Check out our Etsy shop for DBT-inspired items and our journaling workbook (only $7.50!): https://www.etsy.com/shop/dbtandmeOur book, "DBT for Everyone" is available! Order your copy on Amazon here: https://www.amazon.com/Dbt-Everyone-Pitfalls-Possibilities-Better/dp/1839975881/Consider providing ongoing support to the podcast by becoming a patron at https://www.patreon.com/dbtandmeYou can join our facebook community here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/dbtandmepodcastCheck out our other podcast, The Couch and The Chair, on Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-couch-and-the-chair/id1554159244) or on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3MZ8aZPoRKxGmLtFcR4S4O)If you need support/have questions, email us at dbtandmepodcast@gmail.com

Feb 26, 2025 • 1h 23min
How to Keep DBT Feeling Fresh
If you've been using DBT for awhile, you know that it can become difficult to maintain momentum and desire to keep using skills consistently. In this episode, Kate and Michelle discuss four common challenges that can arise as barriers to regular skill use: not thinking about DBT enough, feeling willful about using skills, struggles to establish a consistent routine with skills, and feeling burnt out by trying to do too much DBT at once. For each challenge, they share helpful tips on how to overcome it. Magic Mind is a mental performance shot designed to help you maintain focus and reduce stress with less caffeine than a cup of coffee, B vitamins and other all natural ingredients. Use our promo code to get 48% off your first subscription OR 20% off a one-time order at https://www.magicmind.com/DBT20 by using code DBT20 (make sure to use all caps!) at checkout. Support the showIf you want to sign up for Kate's free DBT peer support group, you can sign up here: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/dbt-discussion-group-tickets-518237601617Check out our Etsy shop for DBT-inspired items and our journaling workbook (only $7.50!): https://www.etsy.com/shop/dbtandmeOur book, "DBT for Everyone" is available! Order your copy on Amazon here: https://www.amazon.com/Dbt-Everyone-Pitfalls-Possibilities-Better/dp/1839975881/Consider providing ongoing support to the podcast by becoming a patron at https://www.patreon.com/dbtandmeYou can join our facebook community here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/dbtandmepodcastCheck out our other podcast, The Couch and The Chair, on Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-couch-and-the-chair/id1554159244) or on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3MZ8aZPoRKxGmLtFcR4S4O)If you need support/have questions, email us at dbtandmepodcast@gmail.com

Jan 30, 2025 • 1h 25min
Active Passivity and Apparent Competence
Kate and Michelle discuss active passivity and apparent competence by first explaining each concept in-depth, followed by sharing personal examples and skills that can help with shifting into a place of healthier balance when struggles with these states take place. Support the showIf you want to sign up for Kate's free DBT peer support group, you can sign up here: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/dbt-discussion-group-tickets-518237601617Check out our Etsy shop for DBT-inspired items and our journaling workbook (only $7.50!): https://www.etsy.com/shop/dbtandmeOur book, "DBT for Everyone" is available! Order your copy on Amazon here: https://www.amazon.com/Dbt-Everyone-Pitfalls-Possibilities-Better/dp/1839975881/Consider providing ongoing support to the podcast by becoming a patron at https://www.patreon.com/dbtandmeYou can join our facebook community here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/dbtandmepodcastCheck out our other podcast, The Couch and The Chair, on Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-couch-and-the-chair/id1554159244) or on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3MZ8aZPoRKxGmLtFcR4S4O)If you need support/have questions, email us at dbtandmepodcast@gmail.com

Jan 20, 2025 • 45min
Q & A Episode 68
The hosts tackle the struggle of maintaining daily habits for those with anxiety and ADHD. They emphasize self-compassion over criticism to boost motivation. Practical strategies for enjoyable routines, like dancing, are discussed to alleviate anxiety. The emotional impact of a therapist's absence during grief is explored, along with the need for community support. Innovative DBT techniques, including art therapy and self-soothing methods, are shared. Lastly, parenting toddler challenges and effective emotion regulation strategies are addressed, promoting well-being for both parents and children.

Dec 25, 2024 • 1h 29min
Using DBT Skills to Process the Election Results
Kate and Michelle talk about their personal reactions to the 2024 election results. They share different DBT skills for the emotions of fear, disgust, sadness and anger, and how DBT can help us both accept our emotions during this time and use them for positive action. TRIGGER WARNING: Material that may be triggering is discussed from 1:06:07-1:06:13.If you want to purchase the book "A Day in the Life of Marlon Bundo", you can purchase it here: https://www.amazon.com/Tonight-Oliver-Presents-Marlon-Bundo/dp/145217380X/Support the showIf you want to sign up for Kate's free DBT peer support group, you can sign up here: https://www.eventbrite.com/e/dbt-discussion-group-tickets-518237601617Check out our Etsy shop for DBT-inspired items and our journaling workbook (only $7.50!): https://www.etsy.com/shop/dbtandmeOur book, "DBT for Everyone" is available! Order your copy on Amazon here: https://www.amazon.com/Dbt-Everyone-Pitfalls-Possibilities-Better/dp/1839975881/Consider providing ongoing support to the podcast by becoming a patron at https://www.patreon.com/dbtandmeYou can join our facebook community here: https://www.facebook.com/groups/dbtandmepodcastCheck out our other podcast, The Couch and The Chair, on Apple Podcasts (https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/the-couch-and-the-chair/id1554159244) or on Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3MZ8aZPoRKxGmLtFcR4S4O)If you need support/have questions, email us at dbtandmepodcast@gmail.com