Sales [UN]Training

Kelly Riggs & Pod About It Productions
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Nov 3, 2025 • 29min

WHY SELLING IS SO HARD: The Toughest Job in Business

Kelly celebrates two years of transforming how professionals think about sales — and tackles one of the biggest questions in the business world: why is selling so hard? Drawing from decades of experience, Kelly unpacks the long list of skills every salesperson must master — from systems and product knowledge to industry fluency, customer psychology, and competitive strategy. Follow the audio podcast and watch OR listen wherever you are: https://linktr.ee/salesuntraining But it doesn't stop there. Kelly explains how companies unintentionally make the job harder through poor onboarding, unrealistic expectations, and one-off "event" training that quickly fades away. He highlights how many organizations still perpetuate outdated sales stereotypes — focusing on product pitches instead of developing professionals who listen, adapt, and solve problems. Sales is not a fallback career — it's one of the most complex, performance-driven roles in business. And while great salespeople thrive on challenge, true success depends on leaders who prepare and support them the right way. If you lead a sales team or want to understand what separates elite performers from the rest, this episode is a must-listen. Kelly Riggs is an author, speaker, and business consultant for executives and companies throughout the United States and Canada. He has written two books: 1-on-1 Management: What Every Great Manager Knows That You Don't and Quit Whining and Start SELLING! A Step-by-Step Guide to a Hall of Fame Career in Sales. Get more Kelly: www.BizLockerRoom.com. Widely recognized as a powerful speaker and performance coach in the areas of sales, management leadership, and strategic planning, Kelly is a former sales executive, a two-time national Salesperson-of-the-Year, a business owner, and a member of the Forbes' Coaches Council since 2019. Music and Editing by Pod About It Productions @dougbranson
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Oct 27, 2025 • 28min

The #1 SECRET to Active Listening in Sales: How PREPARATION Unlocks What Your Prospect Really Means

Stop pitching at the first buying signal and learn the real secret to effective selling: listening. Discover the critical questions you're not asking—like "how do you feel?"—that unlock the motivations, emotions, and information needed to build trust and win the deal. Salespeople are trained to talk, not to listen. We load them with product knowledge and then wonder why they commit the ultimate amateur mistake: pouncing on the first potential buying signal with a full-blown product pitch. This approach doesn't build trust; it breaks it. In this finale of a three-part series on listening, Kelly Riggs exposes the real secret to becoming a great listener. It's not just about asking good questions; it's about having the emotional intelligence to explore the details behind the first answer. You will learn that the ability to be a truly effective listener is predicated on one overlooked skill: preparation. When you are prepared, you can get out of your own head and stop thinking about what to say next, allowing you to genuinely tune in. This episode provides concrete examples of the powerful questions most salespeople are afraid to ask—including the simple shift from "what do you think?" to "how do you feel?"—to uncover a prospect's true motivations. Finally, learn why making assumptions is so dangerous and why clarification is the critical final key to understanding what your prospect really means. Follow the audio podcast and watch OR listen wherever you are: https://linktr.ee/salesuntraining Kelly Riggs is an author, speaker, and business consultant for executives and companies throughout the United States and Canada. He has written two books: 1-on-1 Management: What Every Great Manager Knows That You Don't and Quit Whining and Start SELLING! A Step-by-Step Guide to a Hall of Fame Career in Sales. Get more Kelly: www.BizLockerRoom.com. Widely recognized as a powerful speaker and performance coach in the areas of sales, management leadership, and strategic planning, Kelly is a former sales executive, a two-time national Salesperson-of-the-Year, a business owner, and a member of the Forbes' Coaches Council since 2019. Music and Editing by Pod About It Productions @dougbranson
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Oct 20, 2025 • 21min

STOP Selling, START Listening: How Great Salespeople Build Real Relationships | Sales [UN]Training

Most salespeople think they're great listeners—but Kelly Riggs says they're wrong. In this episode of Sales [UN]Training, Kelly explores the critical difference between "hearing" and "listening to learn." Using lessons from psychology and real-world sales experience, he reveals why too many reps focus so hard on pitching that they miss what's actually being said. Follow the audio podcast and watch OR listen wherever you are: https://linktr.ee/salesuntraining Kelly draws from "The Invisible Gorilla" experiment to illustrate how attention blindness ruins sales calls, then shares the concept of "staying in the moment"—a key sales competency proven to predict success. You'll learn why amateur salespeople ask fact-based questions, how pros create dialogue instead of interrogation, and why curiosity and empathy are the true foundations of effective selling. From sidewalk coaching to trade show mistakes, Kelly breaks down the traps every salesperson falls into—and exactly how to avoid them. If you've ever wondered why your prospects go silent or why your "great product pitch" fell flat, this episode is a masterclass in what to actually listen for. Tune in, take notes, and start rewiring your sales brain today. Kelly Riggs is an author, speaker, and business consultant for executives and companies throughout the United States and Canada. He has written two books: 1-on-1 Management: What Every Great Manager Knows That You Don't and Quit Whining and Start SELLING! A Step-by-Step Guide to a Hall of Fame Career in Sales. Get more Kelly: www.BizLockerRoom.com. Widely recognized as a powerful speaker and performance coach in the areas of sales, management leadership, and strategic planning, Kelly is a former sales executive, a two-time national Salesperson-of-the-Year, a business owner, and a member of the Forbes' Coaches Council since 2019. Music and Editing by Pod About It Productions @dougbranson
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Oct 14, 2025 • 22min

ASK Better, LISTEN Harder: How Great Salespeople Win More Deals

In this episode of Sales [UN]Training, Kelly Riggs tackles one of the most overlooked skills in sales—listening. Most sales calls are dominated by the salesperson's voice, leaving little room to learn what really matters to the buyer. Kelly explains why that's a critical mistake and how asking the right questions is the foundation of every successful sales conversation. Through relatable stories and sharp analogies, including one comparing listening to a car's transmission, Kelly illustrates how true sales effectiveness comes from curiosity, not chatter. He exposes why traditional training fails—focusing too much on talking about the product instead of discovering what the customer actually values. Follow the audio podcast and watch OR listen wherever you are: https://linktr.ee/salesuntraining Listeners will learn how to shift from "listening to reply" to "listening to understand," how curiosity drives connection, and why rapport doesn't come from swapping stories but from making people feel genuinely heard. Kelly also shares practical advice on retraining sales teams to lead with thoughtful questions and resist the urge to sell on the first call. If you're ready to rewire your sales brain and close more deals through better conversations, this episode will show you exactly where to start. Kelly Riggs is an author, speaker, and business consultant for executives and companies throughout the United States and Canada. He has written two books: 1-on-1 Management: What Every Great Manager Knows That You Don't and Quit Whining and Start SELLING! A Step-by-Step Guide to a Hall of Fame Career in Sales. Get more Kelly: www.BizLockerRoom.com. Widely recognized as a powerful speaker and performance coach in the areas of sales, management leadership, and strategic planning, Kelly is a former sales executive, a two-time national Salesperson-of-the-Year, a business owner, and a member of the Forbes' Coaches Council since 2019. Music and Editing by Pod About It Productions @dougbranson
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Oct 6, 2025 • 25min

HIRE BETTER SALESPEOPLE: How to Identify True Hunters vs. Farmers in Sales Hiring Decisions

In this episode of Sales [UN]Training, host Kelly Riggs tackles one of the most critical challenges sales leaders face—hiring the right kind of salesperson. While many resumes look impressive on paper, the truth is that three out of four salespeople are failing to meet revenue goals, and one of the biggest reasons is misaligned roles. Kelly breaks down the essential distinction between "hunters" and "farmers," explaining why a top performer in one role may fail miserably in another. Drawing on personal experience as a sales leader and even a surprising ride-along with law enforcement, Kelly reveals how hunting is as much a mindset as it is a skill set. He shares how to probe during interviews to uncover whether a candidate has truly created opportunities from scratch—or simply thrived on inbound leads. Follow the audio podcast and watch OR listen wherever you are: https://linktr.ee/salesuntraining Learn why vague expectations set salespeople up for failure and how crystal-clear role requirements can dramatically reduce costly hiring mistakes. From the importance of identifying hunters early, to the tactics you can use to confirm whether a candidate has both the drive and skills for growth, this episode is packed with insights for sales leaders who want to stop wasting money on the wrong hires. Whether you're building a team from the ground up or looking to strengthen your existing sales force, this episode will equip you with practical strategies to identify, attract, and retain the kind of sales talent that drives real growth. Kelly Riggs is an author, speaker, and business consultant for executives and companies throughout the United States and Canada. He has written two books: 1-on-1 Management: What Every Great Manager Knows That You Don't and Quit Whining and Start SELLING! A Step-by-Step Guide to a Hall of Fame Career in Sales. Get more Kelly: www.BizLockerRoom.com. Widely recognized as a powerful speaker and performance coach in the areas of sales, management leadership, and strategic planning, Kelly is a former sales executive, a two-time national Salesperson-of-the-Year, a business owner, and a member of the Forbes' Coaches Council since 2019. Music and Editing by Pod About It Productions @dougbranson
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Sep 22, 2025 • 26min

Stop First Meeting FAILS: Sales Strategy Tips from Lee Salz, Author of The First Meeting Differentiator

Kelly and Lee Salz break down why most salespeople fail at the very first meeting — and what to do instead. They uncover how playbooks, meaningful value, and emotional engagement can change the sales game. In this episode of Sales [UN]Training, host Kelly Riggs sits down with best-selling author Lee Salz to tackle one of the most overlooked — and costly — challenges in sales: the first meeting. Lee, author of The First Meeting Differentiator, explains why so many salespeople lose before they've even had a chance to win. Follow the audio podcast and watch OR listen wherever you are: https://linktr.ee/salesuntraining Together, Kelly and Lee explore why traditional training fails, why most sales meetings are forgotten within days, and how sales leaders can create reinforcement strategies that actually stick. They dig into the power of a documented sales playbook, the importance of shifting from a "discovery" mindset to a consultation mindset, and why providing meaningful value in every interaction is the key to earning a second meeting. Lee also reveals why emotional connection — not logic alone — drives buying decisions, and how salespeople can avoid the trap of product pitching. From understanding the forgetting curve, to developing target client profiles, to creating a true "deal foundation" in the very first meeting, this episode is packed with insights that every sales VP and frontline rep needs to hear. If you've ever wondered why hard-won opportunities stall, or why first meetings rarely turn into long-term relationships, this conversation offers a practical framework you can put to use immediately. Don't miss this timely and practical guide to transforming your first meetings into real business wins. Kelly Riggs is an author, speaker, and business consultant for executives and companies throughout the United States and Canada. He has written two books: 1-on-1 Management: What Every Great Manager Knows That You Don't and Quit Whining and Start SELLING! A Step-by-Step Guide to a Hall of Fame Career in Sales. Get more Kelly: www.BizLockerRoom.com. Widely recognized as a powerful speaker and performance coach in the areas of sales, management leadership, and strategic planning, Kelly is a former sales executive, a two-time national Salesperson-of-the-Year, a business owner, and a member of the Forbes' Coaches Council since 2019. Music and Editing by Pod About It Productions @dougbranson
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Sep 15, 2025 • 20min

WIN in Sales or LOSE Everything: Competition, Mindset, and Sales Leadership Secrets

Kelly breaks down why selling is truly a competition and why there's no reward for second place. In this episode of Sales [UN]Training, he shares four ways sales teams "play the game" and how mindset separates the elite from the average. Selling isn't just a job—it's a competition, and Kelly wants to make sure you're playing to win. In this episode of Sales [UN]Training, Kelly challenges the conventional view of sales training and asks a critical question: are you preparing your team to truly compete, or just to participate? Follow the audio podcast and watch OR listen wherever you are: https://linktr.ee/salesuntraining Kelly unpacks the unique reality of selling—there are no prizes for second place. Through powerful analogies and hard-hitting examples, he outlines the four ways salespeople play the game: showing up to play, playing to win, playing to win at all costs, and playing not to lose. Each mindset carries consequences, and only one creates consistent winners. Beyond strategy, Kelly explores the crucial role of mindset in sales success. Drawing parallels from elite athletes, he shows how mental conditioning, resilience, and the ability to learn from every win and loss are what propel salespeople into the top 5% of performers. Leaders, he argues, must go beyond assigning tasks—they must coach, train, and cultivate a culture of excellence rooted in competition and growth. If you're a sales leader looking to transform your team, or a salesperson ready to shift from "showing up" to competing at the highest level, this episode delivers the insight and challenge you need. Kelly Riggs is an author, speaker, and business consultant for executives and companies throughout the United States and Canada. He has written two books: 1-on-1 Management: What Every Great Manager Knows That You Don't and Quit Whining and Start SELLING! A Step-by-Step Guide to a Hall of Fame Career in Sales. Get more Kelly: www.BizLockerRoom.com. Widely recognized as a powerful speaker and performance coach in the areas of sales, management leadership, and strategic planning, Kelly is a former sales executive, a two-time national Salesperson-of-the-Year, a business owner, and a member of the Forbes' Coaches Council since 2019. Music and Editing by Pod About It Productions @dougbranson
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Sep 1, 2025 • 25min

SPEED UP Sales Onboarding 🚀 | Why Training Fails & What VPs Must Fix to Build Consistent Talent

How long does it really take for a new salesperson to become competent? Kelly Riggs challenges the myths, shares data on failure rates, and lays out a framework that sales leaders can actually use. How long should it take for a brand-new salesperson to reach competency? If you ask ten sales leaders, you'll get ten different answers—ranging anywhere from weeks to years. In this episode of Sales [UN]Training, Kelly Riggs pulls apart the debate and examines the critical milestones that determine whether a new hire becomes productive or becomes part of the 75% who never make it. Follow the audio podcast and watch OR listen wherever you are: https://linktr.ee/salesuntraining Kelly exposes the overconfidence many managers place in "experienced hires" and highlights why resumes, industry connections, and product familiarity often fail to translate into actual selling ability. He shares eye-opening stats: only 1 in 20 salespeople are truly elite, while the vast majority struggle. From there, he introduces the "Four Buckets" every salesperson must master—systems and processes, product knowledge, industry context, and the actual skills of selling. But here's the twist: training that overloads product details without real-world context slows development dramatically. Kelly provides a pro tip that accelerates onboarding—immersing new hires with satisfied customers so they can connect product knowledge with real experiences and stories. This method not only builds competence faster but also arms salespeople with authentic credibility when meeting prospects. If you're a VP of Sales or sales leader frustrated by long ramp times and inconsistent performance, this episode is packed with blunt truths and practical strategies you won't want to miss. Kelly Riggs is an author, speaker, and business consultant for executives and companies throughout the United States and Canada. He has written two books: 1-on-1 Management: What Every Great Manager Knows That You Don't and Quit Whining and Start SELLING! A Step-by-Step Guide to a Hall of Fame Career in Sales. Get more Kelly: www.BizLockerRoom.com. Widely recognized as a powerful speaker and performance coach in the areas of sales, management leadership, and strategic planning, Kelly is a former sales executive, a two-time national Salesperson-of-the-Year, a business owner, and a member of the Forbes' Coaches Council since 2019. Music and Editing by Pod About It Productions @dougbranson
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Aug 25, 2025 • 20min

Best of Sales [UN]Training: What Deion Sanders Can Teach You About Transforming Your Sales Team

Stop trying to incrementally improve a broken system. Discover why radical, Deion Sanders-style transformation is the only way to fix the systemic issues holding your sales team back from explosive growth. We're on a short summer break. New episodes will return in September. In the meantime enjoy this episode in honor of College and NFL football returning. This episode originally aired on October 2nd, 2023. Most sales leaders believe they can transform their team's results, but the data shows three out of four teams fail to consistently grow year-over-year. The truth is, you can't transform your sales team—at least not in the way you've been trying. Incremental changes and minor tweaks won't fix the deep, systemic issues that lead to mediocrity and high turnover. Lasting change requires a radical overhaul, and most leaders simply don't have the stomach for it. This episode explores what it truly takes to engineer a massive turnaround. Drawing a powerful parallel to Deion "Coach Prime" Sanders' controversial but effective reconstruction of the Colorado Buffaloes football program, Kelly Riggs explains why you might need to change everything—your people, your culture, and your expectations. You'll examine the three core pillars of a successful sales organization: acquiring unique talent, developing radically focused leadership, and implementing bulletproof processes. Forget putting a band-aid on a major health problem. This is your guide to diagnosing the underlying causes of poor performance and executing a strategy that creates disproportionate, sustainable results. Are you ready to do the hard work required to win? Follow the audio podcast and watch OR listen wherever you are: https://linktr.ee/salesuntraining Kelly Riggs is an author, speaker, and business consultant for executives and companies throughout the United States and Canada. He has written two books: 1-on-1 Management: What Every Great Manager Knows That You Don't and Quit Whining and Start SELLING! A Step-by-Step Guide to a Hall of Fame Career in Sales. Get more Kelly: www.BizLockerRoom.com. Widely recognized as a powerful speaker and performance coach in the areas of sales, management leadership, and strategic planning, Kelly is a former sales executive, a two-time national Salesperson-of-the-Year, a business owner, and a member of the Forbes' Coaches Council since 2019. Music and Editing by Pod About It Productions @dougbranson
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Aug 21, 2025 • 24min

Best Of Sales [UN]Training: Sales Training FAILS Because Leaders Make THESE Mistakes. TRANSFORM Your Sales Team Now!

Could your team's sales training routines be considered a "dumpster fire"? Kelly Riggs explains why salespeople won't participate in training and reveals the systemic problems, and surprising solutions, to the sales training problem. In this episode of Sales [UN]Training, host Kelly Riggs addresses the frustrating reality for many sales leaders: their teams' lack of engagement in training. Kelly identifies three common complaints—salespeople who don't attend, schedule over training, or simply don't engage—and offers a blunt but necessary truth: "You're the problem". The problem isn't the salespeople's lack of motivation; it's a systemic issue that starts with who sales leaders hire and how they lead. This episode originally aired on June 2nd, 2025 The episode explores the non-existent barriers to entry in the sales profession, which often results in hiring individuals who are not self-motivated or dedicated to continuous learning. Kelly emphasizes that great leaders must hire people who are committed to self-improvement and set clear, non-negotiable expectations from the outset. He also discusses the critical distinction between training and learning, explaining that training is merely "exposure" to new ideas, while true learning and habit change only occur through coaching, practice, and a consistent feedback loop. Sales leaders must stop looking at symptoms and instead address the root causes of their team's underperformance. Follow the audio podcast and watch OR listen wherever you are: https://linktr.ee/salesuntraining Kelly Riggs is an author, speaker, and business consultant for executives and companies throughout the United States and Canada. He has written two books: 1-on-1 Management: What Every Great Manager Knows That You Don't and Quit Whining and Start SELLING! A Step-by-Step Guide to a Hall of Fame Career in Sales. Get more Kelly: www.BizLockerRoom.com. Widely recognized as a powerful speaker and performance coach in the areas of sales, management leadership, and strategic planning, Kelly is a former sales executive, a two-time national Salesperson-of-the-Year, a business owner, and a member of the Forbes' Coaches Council since 2019. Music and Editing by Pod About It Productions @dougbranson

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