
Agentic
The Agentic Podcast, hosted by George Bandarian, General Partner & CEO at Untapped Ventures, leads deep discussions that uncover the untapped potential and breakthroughs of autonomous AI systems shaping the future.
Featuring insights from founders, investors, and industry leaders, we dive into the impact of Agentic AI on industry and society, breakthroughs in machine learning, the future of responsible AI, and the convergence of human and machine intelligence.
Latest episodes

Jan 24, 2025 • 55min
How to Raise + Scale an AI Startup in 2025 | Agentic EP 07
AI is a platform shift unlike any other, with far-reaching implications for every startup.
In my recent webinar with the Founder’s Bay community in Silicon Valley, hosted by Mariane Bekker, I explored why AI should be the core focus for founders aiming to build scalable, high-impact companies.
Key takeaways:
• there’s hardly an application that AI can’t improve
• AI startups are exiting faster—7 years on average vs. 13 for others
• building in AI is your best shot at hitting $100M ARR
• it’s not a zero-sum market—horizontal and vertical plays can both win
• focus on solving high-value problems using AI to attract funding and top-tier talent
In this episode, I share my views on how you could build a leading AI startup that attracts funding, customers, and talent in 2025.
Connect with us here:
1. George Bandarian: https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgebandarian/
2. Untapped Ventures: https://www.linkedin.com/company/untappedventures/
00:00 Trailer
03:19 Introduction
05:53 State of AI
11:55 Ideation
15:48 Agentic AI
26:32 Validation
29:06 Traction
31:48 Recruiting
33:00 Fundraising
35:28 Value-add
37:15 Takeaways
39:01 Q&A
55:28 Outro

Jan 16, 2025 • 53min
How AI Agents Cut Insurance Costs By 90% | Agentic EP 06
The insurance industry has a 400,000 agent shortage.
I sat down with Harper's founders, who use agentic AI to deliver enterprise-grade service at 1/10th the cost.
Dakotah Rice and Tushar Nair revealed how they're leveraging the $85B E&S market:
• voice AI running quotes to claims
• why selling AI tools failed, but becoming a broker worked
• how they're hitting software margins in a services business
As insurance carriers exit Florida and California, Harper couldn’t have come at a better time.
Connect with us:
Dakotah Rice: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dakotahrice/
Tushar Nair: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tushar-nair-b08988222/
Harper: https://www.linkedin.com/company/harperinsure/
George Bandarian: https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgebandarian/
Untapped Ventures: https://www.linkedin.com/company/untappedventures/
00:00 Trailer + Introduction
04:33 Dakota's Journey to Founding Harper
05:18 Tushar's Background and Expertise
06:06 The Genesis of Harper
06:38 Challenges and Opportunities in AI-Driven Insurance
13:08 The Evolution of Harper's AI Systems
13:21 Technical Insights into Building AI Agents
16:01 The Future of AI in Insurance
17:36 Advice for Aspiring AI Founders
19:55 Focusing on the ENS Market
22:05 Scaling and Expanding Harper's Services
25:37 Innovative Sales Solutions for Insurance
26:14 Customer Acquisition and Marketing Strategies
27:42 Voice AI: Revolutionizing Customer Interaction
30:15 Leveraging AI for Enhanced Customer Service
33:02 Future of AI in Business Operations
35:49 Fundraising and Business Growth Insights
40:39 Advice for Founders: Building and Scaling Startups
46:16 Co-Founder Dynamics and Relationship
50:08 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

Jan 9, 2025 • 50min
Your AI Architecture Is Wrong | Agentic EP 05
Only 8 companies have shipped AI Agents from production. In this episode of Agentic, I brought together 3 of them, to reveal how they crossed this chasm:
1. Aria Attar (TensorStax) shows how they're tackling the 1:250 data scientist shortage with agents that drop into existing cloud environments.
2. Joe Stolte (Daily.ai), fresh off multiple exits including a $62.5 M acquisition, reveals how they turned 1B newsletter interactions into $1.2M in ARR in just 14 months.
3. Jacky Wong (Nullify) explains how they're helping enterprises where security teams are outnumbered 4:1 by developers.
Key insight? While the AI market races toward $733.7B by 2027—
Solving for deployment and LLM reliability > focussing on model capabilities.
Let’s dive right in.
Connect with us at:
1. Jacky Wong: https://www.linkedin.com/in/wongja/?originalSubdomain=au
2. Aria Attar: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ariaattar/
3. Joe Stolte: https://www.linkedin.com/in/josephstolte
5. George Bandarian: https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgebandarian/
6. Untapped Ventures: https://www.linkedin.com/company/untappedventures/
00:00 Trailer + Introduction
02:26 Agentic AI Overview
06:49 Meet the Founders
10:42 Deep Dive into AI Security
20:01 Building Agentic Models
25:59 Deep Reasoning and Inference in AI Models
26:19 Building and Training Baby Agents
27:37 Trust and Acceptance in AI Solutions
28:49 Lessons Learned and Advice to Founders
29:40 Common Mistakes in LLM Development
33:32 Customer Acquisition Strategies
36:57 Fundraising Insights and Challenges
42:38 Driving Acceptance and Trust in AI
44:37 Reconciling AI as a Deflationary Technology
46:56 Removing Human Evaluators in Development

Jan 3, 2025 • 55min
Where Top VCs Are Placing Their AI Bets In 2025 | Agentic EP 04
With $90B poured into AI over the past year, where is the focus going to be in 2025? I spoke to four top investors to find out.
1. Yipeng Zhao (Embark Ventures) believes AI offers a one-year head start. Fast GTM wins. Slow movers risk irrelevance.
2. Hari Arul (Khosla Ventures) has stopped backing co-pilots altogether. His take? Human-in-loop models won’t survive past 2026.
3. James Shecter (Fika Ventures) says enterprises need the illusion of control over their AI workflows.
4. Nicole Toussaint (TenOneTen Ventures) sees the “Scopely moment” for AI agents approaching fast — and soon, market entry will outweigh engineering breakthroughs.
Tune in now.
Connect with us at:
1. Yipeng Zhao: https://www.linkedin.com/in/yipengzhao/
2. Hari Arul: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hariarul/
3. James Shecter: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamesshecter/
4. Nicole Toussaint: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicole-toussaint-2874a1106/
5. George Bandarian: https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgebandarian/
6. Untapped Ventures: https://www.linkedin.com/company/untappedventures/

Dec 27, 2024 • 50min
Why AI Agents Are Eating Enterprise Software | EP 03 Founders Panel
While 92% of Fortune 500s realize the surplus alpha that can be created from leveraging AI, only 25% of SMBs realize the same.
I sat with 6 founders who are building Agentic AI solutions: Jacky Wong (Nullify), Aria Attar (TensorStax), Max Ahrens (Maihem), Saurabh Sharma (You.com), Jonas Diezun (Beam AI), and Ashar Rizqi (Bounti.ai).
The key highlights from our conversation were:
- OpenAI’s function calling breaks down when scaling requires consistent outputs and error handling—just ask Jacky or anyone building enterprise agents.
- MongoDB could face disruption as AI agents take over infrastructure orchestration—Aria flagged it, and I agree.
- Calling agents "AI workers" simplifies adoption for hesitant enterprises—a shift that doubled Jonas Diezun’s sales.
- Agentic AI scales across verticals in months, not years—Ashar says the old SaaS scaling playbook is obsolete.
- Max at Maihem points out that building functional agents hinges on managing the edge cases that crash your system.
Let’s dive right in.
Connect with us here:
1. Jacky Wong- https://www.linkedin.com/in/wongja/?originalSubdomain=au
2. Aria Attar - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ariaattar/
3. Max Ahrens - https://www.linkedin.com/in/maximilianahrens/?originalSubdomain=uk
4. Saurabh Sharma - https://www.linkedin.com/in/saurabhs/
5. Jonas Diezun - https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonasdiezun/
6. Ashar Rizqi - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashar-rizqi-6614487/
7. George Bandarian - https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgebandarian/
8. Untapped Ventures - https://www.linkedin.com/company/untappedventures/
00:00 Trailer
01:26 Welcome to the Agentic Podcast
02:21 Founder Panel Introduction
02:41 Founders' Backgrounds and Insights
10:08 Defining Agentic AI
20:00 Building Effective AI Agents
26:08 Challenges in Early AI Development
26:21 Human in the Loop: Enhancing AI Adoption
26:58 Debating the Importance of Evaluations
27:39 Technical Insights and Mistakes
29:07 Impact of Agentic Paradigm Shift on Infrastructure
29:52 Customer Adoption and Market Strategies
31:21 Go-to-Market Strategies and Early Stage Focus
39:18 Horizontal vs Vertical Approaches in AI
47:39 Final Thoughts
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Dec 19, 2024 • 1h 1min
Top SF VCs Discuss Agentic & Vertical AI | EP 02
As we transition into agentic models, it’s evident there’s a blend of optimism and caution.
In this panel discussion, I was joined by Jon Chu (Khosla Ventures), Pranav Reddy (Conviction), Andrew Brackin (Gradient), Arash Afrakhteh (Pear VC), Alejandra Vergara (Bee Partners), and Nahim Nasser (Georgian) as we explored:
• why agentic AI will drive systemic shifts across various industries
• the need to define scalable, high-impact use cases for agent-driven solutions
• shifting dynamics of human-machine interaction
• how agentic AI is advancing in parallel with LLMs
• why regional disparities and emerging foundation models could profoundly shape future progress, and
• how value will accumulate for vertical companies beyond the API
Let’s jump right in.
00:00:00 Trailer
00:02:13 Introduction
00:11:47 Current State of AI
00:21:00 Investment Insights and Startup Pitfalls
00:30:49 Vertical vs Horizontal
00:42:09 Evaluating Business and Team Dynamics
00:51:19 Different ways to look at AI
00:58:06 The AGI Landscape
01:01:17 Outro
Connect with us here:
1. Jon Chu- https://www.linkedin.com/in/jchu/
2. Pranav Reddy- https://www.linkedin.com/in/pranavgreddy/
3. Andrew Brackin- https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewbrackin/
4. Arash Afrakhteh- https://www.linkedin.com/in/arasha/
5. Alejandra Vergara- https://www.linkedin.com/in/alejandra-vergaral/
6. Nahim Nasser- https://www.linkedin.com/in/nahimnasser/

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Dec 12, 2024 • 1h 15min
How Maven AGI is Creating Delightful CX with Agentic AI | EP 01
To me, agentic is intent meeting capability—systems that act autonomously, adapt intelligently, and drive purposeful outcomes.
Our guests on this episode—Jonathan Corbin, Sami Shalabi, and Eugene Mann—embody that. They're pushing AI agents forward for real-world enterprise use cases with Maven AGI.
We discuss:
• solving complex challenges with AI agents
• empowering enterprises with cutting-edge tools, and
• why agentic AI will create new roles for humankind
Let’s get into it.
Connect with us here:
1. Jonathan Corbin- https://www.linkedin.com/in/jcorbin01/
2. Sami Shalabi- https://www.linkedin.com/in/sshalabi/
3. Eugene Mann- https://www.linkedin.com/in/eugenemann/
4. George Bandarian- https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgebandarian/
5. Untapped Ventures- https://www.linkedin.com/company/untappedventures/