

Your AI Architecture Is Wrong | Agentic EP 05
Only 8 companies have shipped AI Agents from production. In this episode of Agentic, I brought together 3 of them, to reveal how they crossed this chasm:
1. Aria Attar (TensorStax) shows how they're tackling the 1:250 data scientist shortage with agents that drop into existing cloud environments.
2. Joe Stolte (Daily.ai), fresh off multiple exits including a $62.5 M acquisition, reveals how they turned 1B newsletter interactions into $1.2M in ARR in just 14 months.
3. Jacky Wong (Nullify) explains how they're helping enterprises where security teams are outnumbered 4:1 by developers.
Key insight? While the AI market races toward $733.7B by 2027—
Solving for deployment and LLM reliability > focussing on model capabilities.
Let’s dive right in.
Connect with us at:
1. Jacky Wong: https://www.linkedin.com/in/wongja/?originalSubdomain=au
2. Aria Attar: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ariaattar/
3. Joe Stolte: https://www.linkedin.com/in/josephstolte
5. George Bandarian: https://www.linkedin.com/in/georgebandarian/
6. Untapped Ventures: https://www.linkedin.com/company/untappedventures/
00:00 Trailer + Introduction
02:26 Agentic AI Overview
06:49 Meet the Founders
10:42 Deep Dive into AI Security
20:01 Building Agentic Models
25:59 Deep Reasoning and Inference in AI Models
26:19 Building and Training Baby Agents
27:37 Trust and Acceptance in AI Solutions
28:49 Lessons Learned and Advice to Founders
29:40 Common Mistakes in LLM Development
33:32 Customer Acquisition Strategies
36:57 Fundraising Insights and Challenges
42:38 Driving Acceptance and Trust in AI
44:37 Reconciling AI as a Deflationary Technology
46:56 Removing Human Evaluators in Development