
Business of Software Podcast
Business of Software is a place that brings together the brightest minds and greatest practitioners in software into one place.
World-Class software leaders such as Joel Spolsky, Gail Goodman, Seth Godin, DHH, Dharmesh Shah, & Kathy Sierra come to teach everything except the code in how to scale great software companies that stay profitable in the long term. Expect the latest thinking and fresh perspectives from some of the world's leading software practitioners.
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Latest episodes

May 4, 2021 • 54min
Ep 65 Remote working 2020 (with Natalie and Peldi)
Just a few days into the 2020 Coronavirus pandemic, Wildbit's Natalie Nagele and Balsamiq's Peldi spoke at BoS Europe Online about how even fully remote companies who have been doing asynchronized work for decades have had to change their ways of working when the pandemic hit.
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Apr 27, 2021 • 57min
Ep 64 Hiring the best talent (with Bridget Harris)
In this talk, Bridget Harris (co-founder YouCanBook.Me) lays out a framework for making sure you hire the right people. Create a company that you want to work for, and aim to hire people who want similar outcomes as you – then document it, describe it, defend it, talk about it, share it, and make decisions based on it.
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Apr 20, 2021 • 58min
Ep 63 A Year without pants (with Scott Berkun)
Back in 2010, Scott Berkun had a ‘wonderful and a horrible’ idea. He thought he’d go get a job as project leader at WordPress. This is his story…
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Apr 13, 2021 • 1h 20min
Ep 62 Selling your POV (with April Dunford)
In this talk, April is going to teach you the difference between selling and helping customers buy. She will show you the different types of pitches to use and the pros & cons of each, and why Point of View pitches work so well.
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Apr 6, 2021 • 60min
Ep 61 Building a business without compromising on principles (with Joel Gascoigne)
Joel Gascoigne, co-founder of Buffer, shares some of his thoughts on the advantages and disadvantages of building a business while sticking to the core principles that he and his partner Leo set out when they founded the business.
Can such a highly distributed, radically transparent approach to building a business pay off in the long term?
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Mar 30, 2021 • 52min
Ep 60: the 100th BoSPodcast (with Mark Littlewood)
Yes Ep 60 is our 100th Podcast episode - thanks to a re-launch in 2020 where we reset the counter - so what better time to sit down with Business of Software's CEO Mark Littlewood to get the full story of BoS and his story building a community.
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Mar 23, 2021 • 1h 5min
Ep 59 - Launching a New Breakout Product (with Jason Fried)
Jason Fried is co-founder of Basecamp, a private company based in Chicago that builds the best web tools possible with the least number of features necessary. The launch of Hey, Basecamp's new email service, has become one of the most talked about product launches of 2020- not least because of the very public fight with the Apple store.
In this talk, recorded online at BoS Conf Online USA, Jason talks about the conception, design and launch of Hey email. This session includes many questions from the audience as Jason discusses some of the learning from Basecamp’s first product launch in a decade.
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Mar 16, 2021 • 25min
Ep 58 The Evolution of a SaaS Marketing Team (with Andrus Purde)
People talk a lot about scaling SaaS, or scaling your hiring or culture. But what about marketing? How does your Marketing need to develop in line with the rest of the business?
Andrus Purde was head of marketing at Pipedrive, a simple tool that helps small teams get their sales organized. He is currently Co-founder and CEO of Outfunnel (a sales centric marketing automation tool.)
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Mar 9, 2021 • 49min
Ep 57 The Ping Pong Fallacy (with Promise Phelon)
Culture is reinforced by strong leaders with a willingness to address some of the daily things that let emotional triggers prevent us from building a great company. Promise is building a loyal team at tap influence, innovating in a product area that's entirely uncharted, and helping evolve how businesses get heard by consumers. Prior to TapInfluence, Phelon was Chief Revenue Officer of the Resumator, CEO of The Phelon Group, and served as CEO of UpMo, an enterprise talent management SaaS system.
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Mar 2, 2021 • 50min
Ep 56 Cultivating Trust (with Gareth Marlow)
If you’ve ever worked with someone you didn’t trust, you will know why trust is important in the workplace. Teams that don’t trust each other don’t work well together. Much of the talk around ‘trust’ in business is misunderstood and lacks clear and actionable frameworks for you to make things better.
Drawing on personal experience and a lot of study, Gareth Marlowe of Eqsytems.io spoke at BoS in 2019 with a talk aimed to help you to appreciate how trust issues may be limiting your company’s growth and the role you might be playing in destroying trust.
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