
The Bible For Normal People
A weekly podcast talk show having serious talks about the sacred book. Hosted by Peter Enns and Jared Byas.
Latest episodes

Jun 9, 2025 • 57min
[Faith] Episode 59: Malcolm Foley - The Connection Between Racism and Greed
Malcolm Foley, a pastor and historian at Baylor University, delves into the deep-rooted connection between racism and greed in American history. He discusses how economic self-interest has perpetuated systemic inequalities, tracing its origins to chattel slavery. The conversation highlights the church's dual role as both complicit and resistant in these issues. Foley emphasizes the need for economic solidarity and genuine generosity, urging Christians to confront material desires while seeking justice and accountability within their communities.

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Jun 2, 2025 • 48min
[Bible] Episode 300: Caroline Blyth & Emily Colgan - What to Do About Violence in the Bible
In this discussion, Caroline Blyth, an expert in biblical violence, and Emily Colgan, who specializes in gender-based violence, tackle the uncomfortable reality of violence in the Bible. They explore divine violence and its historical context, emphasizing the need for critical engagement with these texts. The duo discusses the implications of biblical narratives on contemporary societal issues, urging faith communities to confront and thoughtfully interpret these challenging stories. Their insights pave the way for meaningful dialogue around faith, gender, and power dynamics.

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May 26, 2025 • 1h 5min
[Faith] Episode 58: Adis Duderija - The Diversity of Islam
In this discussion, Adis Duderija, a Bosnian-Australian professor specializing in progressive Muslim thought, illuminates the rich diversity within Islam. He challenges the monolithic view of the faith by exploring its various interpretations and historical influences. The conversation delves into contrasting Quranic interpretations, the significance of individual experiences in faith, and the historical rivalries between different Islamic schools of thought. Adis emphasizes the vital role of interfaith dialogue and understanding in fostering respect among diverse religious traditions.

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May 19, 2025 • 46min
[Bible] Episode 299: Garrick Allen - Something’s Hiding in the Margins of Your Bible
Garrick Allen, a Professor of Divinity at the University of Glasgow and author of a recent book on biblical manuscripts, dives deep into the often-ignored world of paratexts—elements surrounding Scripture like footnotes and chapter numbers. He argues how these features dramatically shape our interpretation of the Bible. The conversation highlights the evolving nature of biblical texts influenced by historical contexts and personal traditions, encouraging listeners to consider how their own interpretations can shift through diverse perspectives.

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May 12, 2025 • 58min
[Bible] Episode 298: Pete Enns - Pete Ruins Job (REISSUE)
Dive into the complex themes of the Book of Job as traditional interpretations are challenged. Discover Job's suffering in the context of Israel's exile, and examine the misguided theology of his friends who mistake his trials for punishment. Explore the intricate dialogue between Job and God, where themes of justice and divine intention unfold. This insightful discussion encourages a reevaluation of suffering and faith, unveiling the layers of meaning within this ancient text.

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May 5, 2025 • 1h 6min
[Faith] Episode 57: Janet Williams - What We Can (and Can’t) Say About God
In a thought-provoking discussion, theologian Janet Williams, an expert in religious studies and author of 'Seeking the God Beyond,' dives into apophatic theology, emphasizing the mysterious nature of God. She explores the challenges of using language to describe the divine, inviting listeners to reflect on the limits of human expression. Williams also discusses the evolution of personal images of God and the importance of embracing divine paradox, encouraging a deeper, more contemplative approach to spirituality that acknowledges both silence and compassion.

Apr 28, 2025 • 58min
[Bible] Episode 297: Alexiana Fry - Trauma in the Hebrew Bible
In this engaging discussion, Alexiana Fry, a Postdoc at the University of Copenhagen specializing in trauma in the Hebrew Bible, tackles the complex narratives of trauma, gender, and migration. She dives into texts like Hosea and Judges 19, challenging traditional views while shedding light on the urgency of understanding pain within these stories. Alexiana emphasizes the significance of context, personal experiences, and sensitivity when interpreting biblical texts, fostering a deeper connection between ancient scripture and contemporary issues.

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Apr 25, 2025 • 10min
[Bible] April Bonus Episode: Jared Byas & the New Testament Nerds - Ask a Scholar Anything (About the New Testament)
In this engaging discussion, biblical scholars delve into listener questions about the New Testament. They dissect the authorship of letters attributed to Paul, particularly focusing on the book of Colossians. The debate over pseudonymous writing provides fascinating insights into ancient literary practices. The conversation balances scholarly analysis with everyday implications, challenging contemporary notions of authenticity. Listeners can expect to walk away with a greater understanding of the complexities within biblical texts.

Apr 21, 2025 • 1h 7min
[Faith] Episode 56: Wylin D. Wilson - Womanist Wisdom for a Wounded World
Wylin D. Wilson, an Associate Professor at Duke Divinity School and author of Womanist Bioethics, discusses how Black women’s experiences expose ethical gaps in healthcare. Through womanist wisdom, she highlights the necessity of centering the vulnerable for community healing. The conversation touches on the urgent need for equity in maternal care and the emotional toll of historical injustices. Wilson also advocates for compassion and solidarity, urging listeners to embrace the complex narratives of lived experiences to foster understanding and justice.

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Apr 14, 2025 • 53min
[Bible] Episode 296: Richard Rohr - Seeing Through the Eyes of the Prophets
In this engaging discussion, Richard Rohr, a Franciscan friar and founder of the Center for Action and Contemplation, shares insights on biblical prophets as truth-tellers confronting societal injustices. He emphasizes their critique of power and wealth rather than mere individual morality. Rohr explores how their emotional journeys reflect anger, compassion, and the need for social change. By addressing systemic issues like wealth disparity, he urges us to reflect on love's transformative potential in today's world.