
The Bible For Normal People
A weekly podcast talk show having serious talks about the sacred book. Hosted by Peter Enns and Jared Byas.
Latest episodes

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Jun 30, 2025 • 1h 4min
[Faith] Episode 60: Beau Underwood & Brian Kaylor - Christian Nationalism Across the Political Spectrum
Beau Underwood, a senior minister and contributing editor, and Brian Kaylor, a Baptist minister and editor, dive deep into the historical roots of Christian nationalism in the U.S. They reveal how mainline Protestants inadvertently fostered patriotic worship and uncritical state support. The conversation highlights the alarming tensions between faith and democracy, urging churches to unravel this intricate blend. They also discuss the dangers of exclusionary practices and emphasize the importance of inclusivity in a pluralistic society, encouraging respectful dialogue.

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Jun 23, 2025 • 48min
[Bible] Episode 302: Julie Faith Parker - How Interpretation Made Eve a Villain
In this insightful discussion, Dr. Julie Faith Parker, a renowned biblical scholar and author, reinterprets Eve's character, challenging the notion that she is the villain behind original sin. She delves into how patriarchal interpretations have historically skewed perceptions of women in the Bible. Exploring Eve's decision in Genesis, she reveals the complexities of blame and the passive role of Adam. With a feminist lens, she advocates for a deeper understanding of women's roles and the necessity of reexamining biblical narratives to empower rather than diminish.

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Jun 16, 2025 • 51min
[Bible] Episode 301: Walter Brueggemann - Resurrecting the Bible in the Mainline Church (REISSUE)
Walter Brueggemann, an influential Hebrew Bible scholar, discusses the need to reclaim the Bible in the mainline church. He emphasizes viewing scripture not as rigid certainties but as a dynamic narrative meant for performance. The conversation touches on interpreting Revelation as poetry and the importance of justice in faith. Brueggemann critiques idolizing political divides, advocating for empathy and compassion. His insights on the relationship between the Old and New Testaments encourage a nuanced, modern approach to scripture.

Jun 9, 2025 • 57min
[Faith] Episode 59: Malcolm Foley - The Connection Between Racism and Greed
Malcolm Foley, a pastor and historian at Baylor University, delves into the deep-rooted connection between racism and greed in American history. He discusses how economic self-interest has perpetuated systemic inequalities, tracing its origins to chattel slavery. The conversation highlights the church's dual role as both complicit and resistant in these issues. Foley emphasizes the need for economic solidarity and genuine generosity, urging Christians to confront material desires while seeking justice and accountability within their communities.

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Jun 2, 2025 • 48min
[Bible] Episode 300: Caroline Blyth & Emily Colgan - What to Do About Violence in the Bible
In this discussion, Caroline Blyth, an expert in biblical violence, and Emily Colgan, who specializes in gender-based violence, tackle the uncomfortable reality of violence in the Bible. They explore divine violence and its historical context, emphasizing the need for critical engagement with these texts. The duo discusses the implications of biblical narratives on contemporary societal issues, urging faith communities to confront and thoughtfully interpret these challenging stories. Their insights pave the way for meaningful dialogue around faith, gender, and power dynamics.

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May 26, 2025 • 1h 5min
[Faith] Episode 58: Adis Duderija - The Diversity of Islam
In this discussion, Adis Duderija, a Bosnian-Australian professor specializing in progressive Muslim thought, illuminates the rich diversity within Islam. He challenges the monolithic view of the faith by exploring its various interpretations and historical influences. The conversation delves into contrasting Quranic interpretations, the significance of individual experiences in faith, and the historical rivalries between different Islamic schools of thought. Adis emphasizes the vital role of interfaith dialogue and understanding in fostering respect among diverse religious traditions.

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May 19, 2025 • 46min
[Bible] Episode 299: Garrick Allen - Something’s Hiding in the Margins of Your Bible
Garrick Allen, a Professor of Divinity at the University of Glasgow and author of a recent book on biblical manuscripts, dives deep into the often-ignored world of paratexts—elements surrounding Scripture like footnotes and chapter numbers. He argues how these features dramatically shape our interpretation of the Bible. The conversation highlights the evolving nature of biblical texts influenced by historical contexts and personal traditions, encouraging listeners to consider how their own interpretations can shift through diverse perspectives.

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May 12, 2025 • 58min
[Bible] Episode 298: Pete Enns - Pete Ruins Job (REISSUE)
Dive into the complex themes of the Book of Job as traditional interpretations are challenged. Discover Job's suffering in the context of Israel's exile, and examine the misguided theology of his friends who mistake his trials for punishment. Explore the intricate dialogue between Job and God, where themes of justice and divine intention unfold. This insightful discussion encourages a reevaluation of suffering and faith, unveiling the layers of meaning within this ancient text.

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May 5, 2025 • 1h 6min
[Faith] Episode 57: Janet Williams - What We Can (and Can’t) Say About God
In a thought-provoking discussion, theologian Janet Williams, an expert in religious studies and author of 'Seeking the God Beyond,' dives into apophatic theology, emphasizing the mysterious nature of God. She explores the challenges of using language to describe the divine, inviting listeners to reflect on the limits of human expression. Williams also discusses the evolution of personal images of God and the importance of embracing divine paradox, encouraging a deeper, more contemplative approach to spirituality that acknowledges both silence and compassion.

Apr 28, 2025 • 58min
[Bible] Episode 297: Alexiana Fry - Trauma in the Hebrew Bible
In this engaging discussion, Alexiana Fry, a Postdoc at the University of Copenhagen specializing in trauma in the Hebrew Bible, tackles the complex narratives of trauma, gender, and migration. She dives into texts like Hosea and Judges 19, challenging traditional views while shedding light on the urgency of understanding pain within these stories. Alexiana emphasizes the significance of context, personal experiences, and sensitivity when interpreting biblical texts, fostering a deeper connection between ancient scripture and contemporary issues.