
The Bible For Normal People
A weekly podcast talk show having serious talks about the sacred book. Hosted by Peter Enns and Jared Byas.
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Apr 25, 2025 • 10min
[Bible] April Bonus Episode: Jared Byas & the New Testament Nerds - Ask a Scholar Anything (About the New Testament)
In this engaging discussion, biblical scholars delve into listener questions about the New Testament. They dissect the authorship of letters attributed to Paul, particularly focusing on the book of Colossians. The debate over pseudonymous writing provides fascinating insights into ancient literary practices. The conversation balances scholarly analysis with everyday implications, challenging contemporary notions of authenticity. Listeners can expect to walk away with a greater understanding of the complexities within biblical texts.

Apr 21, 2025 • 1h 7min
[Faith] Episode 56: Wylin D. Wilson - Womanist Wisdom for a Wounded World
Wylin D. Wilson, an Associate Professor at Duke Divinity School and author of Womanist Bioethics, discusses how Black women’s experiences expose ethical gaps in healthcare. Through womanist wisdom, she highlights the necessity of centering the vulnerable for community healing. The conversation touches on the urgent need for equity in maternal care and the emotional toll of historical injustices. Wilson also advocates for compassion and solidarity, urging listeners to embrace the complex narratives of lived experiences to foster understanding and justice.

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Apr 14, 2025 • 53min
[Bible] Episode 296: Richard Rohr - Seeing Through the Eyes of the Prophets
In this engaging discussion, Richard Rohr, a Franciscan friar and founder of the Center for Action and Contemplation, shares insights on biblical prophets as truth-tellers confronting societal injustices. He emphasizes their critique of power and wealth rather than mere individual morality. Rohr explores how their emotional journeys reflect anger, compassion, and the need for social change. By addressing systemic issues like wealth disparity, he urges us to reflect on love's transformative potential in today's world.

Apr 10, 2025 • 59min
[ATBW] Episode 5 - She Refused to Take the Bed
The podcast uncovers a disturbing letter revealing abuse within the Southern Baptist Convention, centering on the story of a pastor's wife named Maria. It critically examines the debate over women's leadership roles in the church and the systemic challenges they face. The discussion highlights a troubling culture of negligence surrounding clergy misconduct and the importance of sharing personal narratives of abuse. Additionally, it draws inspiration from the resilience of Saint Fabiola, symbolizing women's ongoing resistance against oppressive structures.

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Apr 7, 2025 • 54min
[Bible] Episode 295: Pete Enns - Pete Ruins Esther
A deep dive into the Book of Esther reveals its unique storytelling and historical context, showcasing the themes of resilience and identity. The narrative contrasts Esther's lack of divine intervention with other biblical tales while spotlighting her strategic role in saving her people. Listeners will learn about Queen Vashti's defiance and the significant political maneuvers against Haman. The discussion culminates in the joyful celebration of Purim, symbolizing survival and hope for the Jewish community.

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Apr 3, 2025 • 60min
[ATBW] Episode 4 - People Who Have Consensual Affairs Don't End Up With PTSD
Christa Brown, a sexual abuse survivor and advocate, shares her harrowing journey within the Southern Baptist Convention, highlighting the systemic failures to protect victims. David Pooler, a Baylor University professor, discusses alarming PTSD rates among clergy abuse survivors, emphasizing the psychological toll of betrayal. They examine the exploitation of faith and the manipulative dynamic between victims and church leaders. The conversation calls for urgent reforms and accountability in religious institutions to protect those vulnerable to abuse.

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Mar 31, 2025 • 1h 2min
[Faith] Episode 55: Matthew Paul Turner - The Challenge of Raising Kids with the Bible
Matthew Paul Turner, an accomplished author of children's books like "When God Made You," joins the discussion on parenting within a biblical framework. He reflects on the joys and challenges of raising kids amidst faith transitions, emphasizing kindness and curiosity. Turner shares personal anecdotes about navigating traditional teachings while fostering a healthier dialogue around spirituality. He also touches on the significance of financial literacy in family dynamics, blending practical tools with meaningful conversations.

Mar 27, 2025 • 45min
[ATBW] Episode 3 - Loopholes
The discussion highlights cunning loopholes that allowed women to carve out roles in ministry despite official prohibitions. From the historical struggle for women's ordination to the evolving influence of pastor's wives, personal stories reveal resilience in a male-dominated environment. Challenges in pursuing ministry roles are illuminated, along with the significant contributions of trailblazers like Rosalie Beck and Bertha Smith. This exploration of gender norms in faith showcases the complex dynamics of women's authority within the Southern Baptist Convention.

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Mar 24, 2025 • 55min
[Bible] Episode 294: Roberto de La Noval - Universalism as a Doctrine
Roberto de la Noval, an assistant professor of theology at Mount St. Mary's University, dives into the intriguing topic of universalism, discussing the belief that all individuals will ultimately be reconciled with God. He sheds light on common misconceptions and traces the roots of universalism in early Christianity. The conversation explores the evolution of doctrine influenced by historical context and emphasizes the importance of understanding scriptural interpretations within their community. A fascinating look at salvation and the reimagining of hell awaits!

Mar 20, 2025 • 1h 4min
[ATBW] Episode 2 - The Invisible Woman
In Episode 2 of All the Buried Women, co-hosts Beth Allison Barr and Savannah Locke uncover the turbulent and hidden history of women in the Southern Baptist Convention. The story begins in the 1970s, an era of progress and pushback, and follows the journey of Kathy Hoppe, an ordained woman whose call to ministry intersected with a calculated takeover of the SBC. What happens when conviction collides with politics, and how do women respond when their calling is questioned? This episode reveals the invisible threads tying women’s resilience to a denomination shaped by control and conflict.We reached out to the SBC, Paige Patterson, Darryl Gilyard, Tommy Gilmore, and the Council for National Policy for comment, and did not hear back.All the Buried Women is brought to you by The Bible for Normal People.Credits:
Hosts: Beth Allison Barr and Savannah Locke
Producer: Savannah Locke
Writing and Editing: Beth Allison Barr and Savannah Locke
Sound Editing and Music: Savannah Locke and Todd Locke
Introduction and Closing Song: Jaded by Savannah Locke
Special Thanks (in order of appearance): Kathy Hoppe, Barry Hankins, and Robert Downen
Partner Organization: The Bible for Normal People
Additional Thanks: Andy Clark, Systems Administrator within the University Libraries at Baylor University; Erin Smith, Marketing Manager at Baker Publishing Group; Jordan Corona; Dr. Taffey Hall, Director of the Southern Baptist Historical Library and Archives; Brittany Prescott, Podcast Producer for The Bible for Normal People; Adam McCullough, Archivist of Canadian Baptist Archives at McMaster Divinity College; Gordon Heath, Director of Canadian Baptist Archives at McMaster Divinity College; Rev. Leanne Friesen, Executive Minister of Canadian Baptists of Ontario and Quebec (CBOQ) and CBOQ executive board; and Audrey and Alex from Lawyers for Reporters.
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