
Thoroughly Considered
A show about entrepreneurship, product design, and the ups and downs of running a small indie business. Hosted by Dan Provost, Tom Gerhardt, and Myke Hurley.
Latest episodes

Aug 11, 2022 • 58min
84: Empathy Machine
Myke, Tom, and Dan chat about The Last Detail, Mark Two Limited Edition 005, and how it feels to hire people. Then the lads discuss empathy machines and briefly touch on the book After Steve.
Links and Show Notes: Support Thoroughly Considered with a Relay FM Membership Thoroughly Considered #83: The Last Detail with Adam Lisagor - Relay FM Limited Editions – Studio Neat Video: Roger Ebert on Empathy | Empathy | Roger Ebert After Steve – Amazon

Aug 2, 2022 • 56min
83: The Last Detail with Adam Lisagor
New side quest! On The Last Detail, Tom and Dan invite a guest on to chat about an object that is meaningful to them. They dive deep into that object, discussing the design, the manufacturing process, the good, and bad, and everything in-between.
Today’s guest is Adam Lisagor, the founder of Sandwich Video, the preeminent studio for creating video commercials for tech products and services. His object is the Sonos Move.
Guest Starring: Adam Lisagor
Links and Show Notes: Support Thoroughly Considered with a Relay FM Membership Sandwich Video Sonos Move The Making of Move: How We Made Our New Portable Speaker Ready for the Outdoors | Sonos Blog Ambigram - Wikipedia Dieter Rams - Wikipedia

Jul 18, 2022 • 60min
82: Design is Compromise
Myke chats with Tom and Dan about their thoughts on the Mark Three campaign and their new pen tray. Then, Myke discusses some struggles with manufacturing a new paper product, and the show is closed with a Dan’s Tech Corner.
Links and Show Notes: Support Thoroughly Considered with a Relay FM Membership Mark Three: A Minimal and Durable Mechanical Pencil. by Dan Provost & Tom Gerhardt — Kickstarter PENXO | The most minimalistic 2mm lead holder pencil by BitsFactory — Kickstarter Pen Tray – Studio Neat About – Gather iPhone 14: Leaks, Rumors and Release Date - MacRumors Pixel 6, a smarter chip for a smarter phone – Google Store Nothing Phone (1)

Jun 29, 2022 • 31min
81: Mark Three
The podcast discusses the launch of the Mark Three mechanical pencil, including its design and release. They also explore the delays and design history behind the product and compare it to the uni crew toga pencil. The hosts talk about the similarities and differences between Apple products and the Mark Series, and assess the performance of Mark Three and the benefits of Kickstarter.

May 18, 2022 • 39min
80: Jony Ive’s Favorite Things
Myke, Tom, and Dan give a (last?) Mark Two shipping update, then chat about Jony Ive’s favorite things.
Links and Show Notes: Support Thoroughly Considered with a Relay FM Membership Jony Ive chooses the 12 tools of his trade | Financial Times The Pen Addict #513: What Do You Think About Nuts? - Relay FM

Apr 21, 2022 • 51min
79: An Ever-Widening Funnel
Myke, Tom, and Dan chat about forecasting costs and inventory management. Some listener feedback prompts a brief Movie Corner, and then we attempt to create a new iPhone-gate controversy in Dan’s Tech Corner.
Links and Show Notes: Support Thoroughly Considered with a Relay FM Membership Studio Neat on Instagram: "🍊"

Mar 24, 2022 • 1h 7min
78: Daylight Adjustment Number
Myke, Tom, and Dan discuss the orange Mark One, and the new Mac Studio and Studio Display. Then, having triumphantly solved the temperature scale in the previous episode, the trio move to fixing Daylight Saving(s) Time.
Links and Show Notes: Support Thoroughly Considered with a Relay FM Membership Limited Mark One – Studio Neat Mac Studio - Apple iMac G4 - Wikipedia Stephan Ango's Suggestion Alex Padilla's Scale

Feb 23, 2022 • 1h 1min
77: Frozen, Comfortable, Bubble
Myke, Tom, and Dan chat about Mark Two, discuss supply chain woes, and then dive into two, yes two, Dan’s Tech Corners.
Links and Show Notes: Support Thoroughly Considered with a Relay FM Membership Mark Two: A Minimal and Durable Pocket Pen by Dan Provost & Tom Gerhardt — Kickstarter Jon Prosser on iPhone 14: No Notch, No Camera Bump, Titanium Design, and More - MacRumors Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra review - The Verge

Jan 12, 2022 • 55min
76: Tom’s Future Corner
Myke, Tom, and Dan chat some more about Facebook advertising, how Mark Two fulfillment is going, the future of product design for small businesses, and Sir Jony Ive’s Terra Carta seal.
Links and Show Notes: Support Thoroughly Considered with a Relay FM Membership Jony Ive’s LoveFrom unveils Terra Carta Seal design – Wallpaper Terra Carta Seal | Sustainable Markets Initiative Jonathan Ive on Blue Peter [FULL VERSION] - YouTube

Dec 16, 2021 • 53min
75: We Got to Finish Something
Myke, Tom, and Dan chat about a surprise high production Highball ad, the beginning of Mark Two shipments, and the Cortex Mark One pen.
Links and Show Notes: Support Thoroughly Considered with a Relay FM Membership Weekend Video's Highball Ad Studio Neat Apps on the App Store Mark One – Studio Neat