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Feb 16, 2022 • 35min
NM Shorts: Indie Sleaze w/ Taylore Scarabelli
Fashion critic and Interview magazine Senior Editor TAYLORE SCARABELLI speaks to New Models about the much-reported Indie Sleaze revival, sharing insights on its physical re-emergence in IRL NYC. Read Taylore’s related essay in Interview's March print issue (and via link below).
Intro monologue: “Indieverse” by LIL INTERNET, co-written with Carly Busta. Outro music: SLUTTT x Passions "Dead by 25" (unreleased)
Episode cover image: The Cobrasnake for Interview magazine, March 2022
For more:
https://taylorescarabelli.com/
https://www.instagram.com/taylorescarabelli
https://www.interviewmagazine.com/fashion/the-indie-sleaze-revival-is-a-hot-mess#

Feb 11, 2022 • 46min
NM Special Report: Kyiv Update (Feb 8) w/ Anastasiya Osipova
Anastasiya Osipova, a scholar of Soviet and contemporary Russian Culture at the University of Colorado Boulder and co-founder of Cicada Press, speaks with NM from Kyiv, sharing her first-person insights on the Ukrainian/Russian border conflict as well as what the prospect of war does to one’s ability to communicate clearly, and how that shift impacts a society over time.
Recorded in 2 parts: Jan 29 / Feb 8
FOR MORE:
• Cicada Press
https://www.cicadapress.net/titles/
• Serhii Plokhy
The Gates of Europe: A History of Ukraine (Basic Books, 2021)
https://www.basicbooks.com/titles/serhii-plokhy/the-gates-of-europe/9781541675643/
Lost Kingdom: The Quest for Empire and the Making of the Russian Nation (Basic Books, 2017)
https://www.basicbooks.com/titles/serhii-plokhy/lost-kingdom/9780465098491/
• Shaun Walker
The Long Hangover: Putin’s New Russia and the Ghosts of the Past (Oxford, 2018)
https://global.oup.com/academic/product/the-long-hangover-9780190058845
• Stanislav Aseyv
In Isolation: Dispatches from Occupied Donbas (Harvard, forthcoming)
https://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog.php?isbn=9780674268784
LA Review of Books intwv/ regarding Aseyv's imprisonment in the Izolyatsia concentration camp
https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/violence-and-hope-in-ukraine-stanislav-aseyevs-the-torture-camp-on-paradise-street/
• notes on the right-wing and neo-nazi attacks on Ukrainian cultural venues
https://izolyatsia.org/en/project/armed_dangerous/armed_dangerous-disrupt/
• roundtable w/ artist Nikita Kadan regarding Ukraine’s legacy of Soviet art
https://www.pastfutureart.org/en/discussion-the-kmytiv-experiment
• architect/artist Oleksandr Burlaka
http://cargocollective.com/burlaka/bio
https://www.instagram.com/maidan_nezalezhnosti
• writer Yevgenia Belorusets
https://www.ndbooks.com/author/yevgenia-belorusets/
https://www.isolarii.com/
https://belorusets.com/info/about
• Ilya Budraitskis
Dissidents Among Dissidents: Ideology, Politics and the Left in Post-Soviet Russia(Verso, 2022) https://www.versobooks.com/books/3881-dissidents-among-dissidents
• Babi Yar
https://babynyar.org/en

Feb 2, 2022 • 17min
NM Shorts: Bjarne Melgaard's Cryptoverse
Norwegian artist BJARNE MELGAARD speaks to New Models about his foray into the cryptoverse with his first NFT project, Lightbulb Man — which, in true Melgaard-form, touches the limits of trust in a so-called trustless system.
For more: https://lightbulbman.com/

Jan 10, 2022 • 10min
"Baddieverse" by LIL INTERNET
In this monologue, Lil Internet ponders the rise and rise of the BADDIE—past, present, and future—and whether the metaverse will render the Baddie Body Industrial Complex obsolete, or open a golden gateway to Baddie transcendence.
For more LIL INTERNET radio plays and all New Models content, join https://patreon.com/newmodels and check out our new project, https://channel.xyz

Dec 19, 2021 • 54min
EP 40: NOW IN 4-D w/ Nora Khan & Joel Kuennen
In which we speak with writer/critic NORA KHAN and artist/writer JOEL KUENNEN about deep time, rethinking the human in an era of accelerated machine learning, and recognizing the truly experimental in a culture increasingly bound by “aligned incentives.” The conversation took place at La Becque artist residency on the shores of Lake Geneva, where Nora and Joel have been developing two new books and a site specific installation, respectively. We discuss these projects, talking North Stars (plural), climate far-futures, and critical frameworks for Web3 creative production.
For more:
http://www.joelkuennen.com/
https://noranahidkhan.com/
https://foundation.app/blog/experimental-models
https://labecque.ch/en/residency/
Forthcoming books
Nora Khan, The Artificial and the Real (Art Metropole, 2022)
Nora Khan, on the stakes AI Art poses for criticism (Lund Humphries’ New Directions in Contemporary Art Series, 2022)

Dec 7, 2021 • 1h 25min
EP 39: PAINTINGS BY NUMBERS w/ @jerrygogosian's Hilde Lynn Helphenstein & Matthew Capasso
Over the past year, speculation has surged beyond business media to emerge as a broad-spectrum cultural theme — think Gamestop, Robinhood, tokenized communities, the rise of NFT art. Reflecting on this phenomenon, NM speaks with the gonzo art world/ art market reporter behind @jerrygogosian, artist HILDE LYNN HELPHENSTEIN as well as MATTHEW CAPASSO, formerly of Christies and now director of Fairchain, a company working to secure artists’ rights to secondary sale residuals. On this ep, Hilde and Matthew pull back the veil on 2021’s art market mechanics, from the clout battles of WhatsApp collector circles to the newly NFT-centric OG auction houses. Along the way, we discuss the what and why of art valuation today; new models for gallery/artist relations, the new “now” vs “contemporary” split; and the vicissitudes of love, lust, taste, and power that propel life in this realm.
For more:
https://www.instagram.com/jerrygogosian
https://www.larrysaltz.com
https://www.fairchain.art

Dec 1, 2021 • 33min
NM Special Report: UX (Feat. dev/designer Jon Lucas)
We are joined by the guardian angel of New Models' digital presence, designer and developer JON LUCAS. With clients ranging from PIN-UP magazine to Bjarne Melgaard to SOPHIE (†), Jon shares with us reflections on his practice at large, as well as the origins and future of https://newmodels.io
For more: jon-l.com
@jonlucaswebites

Nov 25, 2021 • 60min
NM GREENROOM Ep 4: ADR (AARON DAVID ROSS)
Artist and composer ADR (Aaron David Ross) stops by NM on the occasion of his new album, Filter Failure and launch of his label with Gatekeeper partner Matthew Arkell, Legendarium. Reflecting on his past decade of cultural production—see: Safdie Brothers’ Uncut Gems, Grant Singer’s iconic 2012 cult short, IRL; collaborations with Dis, Kelela, Lafawndah, Mykki Blanco, Ryan Trecartin, Telfar, Korakrit Arunanondchai—ADR discusses how he sees the industry and our sensibilities co-evolving.
For more:
@aarondavidross
@gatekeeper-online
https://www.a-d-r.net/
https://legendarium.nyc/
New Models GREENROOM, is a series of short interviews featuring creators in the NM sphere discussing their new and forthcoming work.

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Oct 5, 2021 • 27min
NM GREENROOM Ep 3: "PARADIGM TRILOGY" w/ KATHARINA KORBJUHN
NY/Paris-based creative director Katharina Korbjuhn speaks to New Models about the launch of PARADIGM TRILOGY, a new publication crystalizing the gap between the legacy fashion/media sector and the post-digital — and even post-individual world — its audiences increasingly inhabit.
For more:
@katkorb
@paradigmtrilogy
http://www.paradigmtrilogy.com/
https://www.katharinakorbjuhn.com/
New Models GREENROOM, is a series of short interviews featuring creators in the NM sphere discussing their new and forthcoming work.

Jul 18, 2021 • 59min
EP 38: UNIVERSAL BASIC PLANETARY SERVICES (Benjamin Bratton)
Theorist BENJAMIN BRATTON joins NM to discuss his newest book, The Revenge of the Real: Politics for a Post-Pandemic World (Verso, 2021), which reflects on human society’s capacity for sensing and calibrating to the the vicissitudes of an increasingly turbulent Earth—and innovatively governing in turn. In this first segment of a two-episode release (Pt. 2 forthcoming for NM subscribers), Bratton talks individualism, globalism, planned economies, desire paths, clouds, and nation states.
https://www.versobooks.com/books/3787-the-revenge-of-the-real
For more:
http://www.bratton.info/
https://www.instagram.com/benjaminbratton
https://www.twitter.com/bratton
https://soundcloud.com/newmodels/episode-15-remote-port-benjamin-bratton-busta-keller-lilinternet
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