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Latest episodes

Jul 30, 2022 • 49min
Boomocracy w/ Kevin Munger on generational power in America (NM46)
Political scientist Kevin Munger joins NM to discuss his new book “Generation Gap: Why the Baby Boomers Still Dominate American Politics and Culture” (Columbia Univ. Press, 2022). Along the way Kevin demystifies the hippie to yuppie pipeline, sheds light on the changing intergenerational contract, explains the origins of the concept of “generations,” and considers what may happen when Boomers’ outsize influence wanes.
Subscriber release: 30 Jun 2022
For more:
Twitter: @kmmunger
Substack: Never Met a Science
Generation Gap: Why the Baby Boomers Still Dominate American Politics and Culture (Columbia Univ. Press, 2022).

Jul 15, 2022 • 1h 1min
Shady Miladys w/ Holyyyycow & Davidy (NM45)
Deep internet A-listers Holly (@holyyyycow) and David Yoakum (@davidy) join NM for the only podcast about Remilia Co.’s ill-famed PFP NFT project you actually need to listen to. From 4chan to Kali/acc, Charlotte Fang to Ryder Ripps, we bring you this niche history so you can judge for yourself how the social web is re-aligning in 2022. Plus: new aesthetics, young girls, and Urbit x No Agency devirtualized in NYC.
Subscriber release: 1 June 2022
For more:
Holly’s essay “The Rise and Fall of Kali/acc” in the NM Codex Y2K20 (2021)

Jul 12, 2022 • 1h 19min
After Dark w/ Shumon Basar & Dean Kissick (NM43)
Cultural savants Shumon Basar (The Extreme Self & The Age of Earthquakes) and Dean Kissick (NY editor of Spike Art Magazine) join the show during Berlin Art Week for a sprawling, late-night convo on communication and creative production in year 2022.
Along the way, we note the accelerating pace of decades, revisit Marshall McLuhan’s 1967 mass-media glow-up, log a veritable dictionary of neologisms, consider whether the art market as we know is a historically bound concept, and ask if we’ve possibly reached the end of clear-cut, market-ready “generations.” Also: mid-ification, zentrism, eNFT portals, and adult drainers. [recorded 29 Apr 2022]
For more:
https://twitter.com/shumonbasar
https://twitter.com/deankissick
Basar, Obrist, Coupland’s The Extreme Self (Penguin, 2021)
https://www.mcnallyjackson.com/book/9783960989738
Dean’s column for Spike Art https://spikeartmagazine.com/?q=search&input=dean+kissick&field_online_bool=All
Dean’s 2021 essay for New Models & The Stolbun Institute, “Hello Darkness”
https://newmodels.io/editorial/issue-3/hello-darkness-dean-kissick

Jun 1, 2022 • 1h 22min
Depeche Modem w/ Kevin Driscoll on early net culture (NM44)
NM speaks with Kevin Driscoll, author of The Modem World: A Pre-history of Social Media (Yale Univ. Press, 2022), which examines the physical — and social — technology that underpinned the DIY side of networked technology’s evolution in the ‘80s and ‘90s.
Parallel to institutional network culture were the proto-dark-forest communities of BBS networks and other pre-www systems. From FidoNet to De Digitale Stad (DDS) Netherlands, Kevin maps out this early territory, with a brief history of the French Minitel system along the way.
Through his work, Kevin asks us to consider what it really means to be “autonomous” online and what alternate conceptions of “the internet” might be possible when we consider the broader origin story of the digital social sphere.
(Subscriber release: 23 May 2022)
For More:
https://kevindriscoll.info/
https://mitpress.mit.edu/books/minitel
https://yalebooks.yale.edu/book/9780300248142/modem-world/

May 22, 2022 • 1h 3min
Unlocked | ATOMIC USER w/ media studies scholar Svitlana Matviyenko (NM42)
Scholar of media studies and Chernobyl expert Svitlana Matviyenko joins us from Kamyanets Podilskyi, Ukraine to discuss critical infrastructure security and the imminence of cyberwarfare.
On this episode, Svitlana, who is also the co-author of Cyberwar & Revolution: Digital Subterfuge of Global Capitalism (U. Minnesota Press, 2020) gives an expanded definition of “cybernetic warfare” and what she calls “communicative militarism”; connects psychological-operations with the post-war “commercial seduction of the subject”; reveals present-day strategies of “audience production,” and unpacks the post-digital terms of mutually assured destruction.
Subscriber release: 1 May 2022
For more:
https://twitter.com/svitlanax
https://networkcultures.org/blog/author/svitlana/
https://www.sfu.ca/communication/team/faculty/svitlana-matviyenko.html

May 1, 2022 • 55min
NM GREENROOM Ep 5: Dances With White Girls (aka Frog)
One of the great millennial club demons, DJ and producer Dances With White Girls (aka Frog) talks to NM about the ever evolving relationship between artists and platforms, from Hollerboard to TikTok. We also talk how AI music software is changing the game, pop-up scenes, and PLUR black tie. Plus: Frog’s 12 Rules for Club Life.
Twitter: @dances
New Release: Repopulate Mars presents The Arrival
Subscriber release: 8 Apr 2022

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Apr 21, 2022 • 1h 8min
EP 41: ECO-TOMORROW (w/ Sam Moore)
Writer and researcher Sam Moore speaks about his new book, with Alex Roberts, THE RISE of ECOFASCISM: CLIMATE CHANGE AND THE FAR RIGHT (Polity, 2022), which finds, in the dissolution of pre-millennial frameworks for climate, capital, and governance, conditions that are ripe for the re-emergence of fascist formulations of power.
We talk to Sam about the interface between humans and the natural world; the return of trad values; and strategies for climate change mitigation that short-circuit the instrumentalization of nature as a tool for capitalist expansion and/or a race-based ordering of the world.
Sam is also a co-host of the podcast @12rulesforwhat and leads the Collapsology group that meets weekly via the New Models Discord and publishes to http://collapsology.substack.com/
Twitter: https//twitter.com/sammoorewrites
Pod: https://www.patreon.com/12rulesforwhat/
Substack: http://collapsology.substack.com/
Book: https://www.politybooks.com/bookdetail?book_slug=the-rise-of-ecofascism-climate-change-and-the-far-right--9781509545377
Book: https://dogsection.org/press/pifr/

Mar 14, 2022 • 37min
NM Special Report: Kyiv Flâneur (Mar 12) w/ Vova Vorotniov
As Ukrainian forces enter a third week of fighting off Russia’s full-force invasion, artist VOVA VOROTNIOV reports from Kyiv, sharing details from life in the city during wartime, a primer on corruption (both bad and "good"), and what terms he sees for possible resolution (spoiler: Russia go home).
Image: Vova Vorotniov, Kyiv, 8 May 2022
For more:
IG: https://www.instagram.com/vovavorotniov/
Telegram: https://t.me/proof_of_war
Berlin-Ukraine aid on Telegram: https://t.me/ukraineberlinarrivalsupport
Berlin-Ukraine housing: https://www.unterkunft-ukraine.de/
Outro audio via https://soundcloud.com/will-ponomarenko

Mar 8, 2022 • 35min
NM Special Report: Digital Resilliance & War w/ Cade Diehm
NM Special Report: Digital Resilience & War w/ Cade Diehm
On this episode, we speak with information security specialist CADE DIEHM of New Design Congress regarding digital infrastructure resilience in a time of network upheaval as the world responds to Russia’s escalation of the war in Ukraine.
For more:
Tw: @helveticade
https://newdesigncongress.org/en/

Mar 3, 2022 • 34min
NM Special Report: Open Source Intelligence (OSINT) & Ukraine w/ @pdthorn
Continuing our context-focused Ukraine Special Reports, we speak with New Models member @pdthorn, whose career path includes working with Open Source Intelligence. OSINT both describes a field of research and its diverse range of publicly available information sources. As Russia has escalated its war in Ukraine this week, OSINT — particularly the constant drip of on-the-ground social media updates — has played a role in shaping the public-facing narrative to an unprecedented degree. We ask PD about best practices for intelligence gathering amid a sea of disinformation, as well as his read on possible end-games for what may come in the wake of this war.
For more:
https://instagram.com/pdthorn_osint
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