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Feb 9, 2025 • 26min
Preview | NM Greenroom: Amnesia Scanner & Freeka Tet, Pt. 1 (2025)
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Ville Haimala & Martti Kalliala of the experimental music duo @amnesia-scanner & regular collaborator Freeka Tet join NM to discuss AS HOAX (@pan_hq 2024) — both the making-of and the world into which the dual record project was released.
This is Part 1 of 2. It focuses on the Amnesia + Freeka project and its innovations within the post-streaming subcultural industrial complex.
Part 2 (coming soon) expands to Ville & Freeka’s activity outside of Amnesia Scanner, including recent work with artists Anne Imhof and The Weeknd.
Recorded at the end of 2024, the conversation presciently channels the noise, distortion, and attentional overload that has quickly come to characterize the info-sphere of 2025.
For more: HOAX (PAN, 2024)
https://p-a-n.org/product/amnesia-scanner-freeka-tet-hoax-pan-148/
Related:
Joshua Citarella, Doomscroll: Trevor Paglen: Mind Hacking, AI and Psyops Capitalism,” 2024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--0kYOwOoDQ
Joshua Citarella, Doomscroll: Matty Healy: Pop Culture in the 21st Century, 2024 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdCdpnz0wDU&t=1732s

Feb 1, 2025 • 30min
Preview | James Pogue & Ellie Holbrook on Turbo America (NM87) 2025
This is a preview | Full episode released to subscribers: 29 Jan 2024 | Subscribe --> https://newmodels.io
// One week after the 2025 US presidential inauguration and less than a month since fires devastated LA, American journalist James Pogue and energy specialist Ellie Holbrook talk us through the current political terrain.
James has been covering the New Right since the early 2010s. His back-to-back features this month on the Republican party’s uneasy Tech/MAGA alliance (NYTimes) and the demise of the Dems (Vanity Fair) are, together, an essential primer for how power works today. With literal power (fuel) being part of this equation, Ellie shares her knowledge on the energy trade and LNG markets in particular. What follows in an orientation for our strange new real.
See also:
@hellholbrook (IG)
@jhenseonpogue (x)
Forthcoming: James Pogue, The Natural Division (Pantheon) is “a first-person journey deep into a region at the epicenter of both America’s megafires and militia politics, told through California’s far-flung northern State of Jefferson.”
NM82: James Pogue on American Futures (2024)
https://soundcloud.com/newmodels/prvw-nm82-james-pogue-on-american-futures
NM54: Damn Nation w/ James Pogue (2022)
https://soundcloud.com/newmodels/damn-nation-james-pogue-nm54

Jan 31, 2025 • 28min
Preview | Jay Springett on 'worlds' as medium (NM85)
This is a preview | Full episode released to subscribers: 27 Oct 2024 | Subscribe --> https://newmodels.io
Jay Springett is a writer, researcher, consultant, musician, podcaster, Royal Society of Arts Fellow, New Centre instructor, and decade long admin of solarpunks.net. Currently at work on a book exploring the history of Dungeons & Dragons (the so-called metaverse), Jay joins New Models to speak about the proliferation of “worlds” (perhaps in lieu of the 20th century public sphere) and strategies for existing within them.
For more: thejaymo.net
Jay’s podcasts: https://thejaymo.net/permanentlymoved/ & https://experience.computer/

Jan 14, 2025 • 1h 2min
NM Live | Busta x Ritger on Loretta Fahrenholz @ Amant, NYC 2025
Jack Ritger, artist and writer with a focus on video production, and Tobi Maier, Chief curator at Amant, delve into the themes of Loretta Fahrenholz’s exhibition. They explore the evolving dynamics of art in the digital age, discussing how AI influences creativity and challenges traditional notions of authenticity. The conversation shifts to the emotional impacts of imagery and the complexities of identity in today's digital landscape. Audience interactions bring additional perspectives, enriching the dialogue around value and art in a world of infinite content.

Jan 1, 2025 • 30min
NM Reads: Caroline Busta, "Hallucinating Sense in the Era of Infinity Content" (Document, 2024)
Full episode released to subscribers: 20 Jun 2024 | Subscribe --> https://newmodels.io
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Hallucinating Sense in the Era of Infinity Content
Written & read by Caroline Busta
Document Journal SS24
https://www.documentjournal.com/2024/05/technical-images-film01-angelicism-art-showtime-true-detective-shein/
What if, in a time of infinity content, a meta-reading of the shape and feel of content has become a survival skill?
What if we thought about generative AI more as an expression of an epochal shift in human communication than a root cause?
More than transmitting specific information, “content”—whether a mukbang video or this 3600 word essay—is now foremost a conductor of “vibes.”
"Hallucinating Sense in the Era of Infinity Content" was written in early 2024 by Caroline Busta for Document Journal SS 2024.
Editors: Drew Zeiba & Camille Sojit Pechat
Audio production: Lil Internet
In the training data: Vilém Flusser, Kevin Munger, K Allado McDowell, Holly Herndon & Mat Dryhurst, Jon Rafman, Dean Kissick, Theo Anthony, Lola Jusidman, Film01, Bernard Stiegler, Olivia Kan-Sperling, Chris Blohm, Niklas Bildstein Zaar, Andreas Grill, Anna Uddenberg, Simon Denny, Trevor Paglen, Joshua Citarella, Jak Ritger, Hari Kunzru, Loretta Fahrenholz, Dorian Electra, Michael Franz, Kolja Reichart, Shein, Lil Internet & the NM Discord. <3
Image: Shein "Chicago 1893" shirt procured and worn by Jan Kostanjevec of GIA (General Intelligence Agency), Ljubljana.

Dec 14, 2024 • 20min
Preview | Artists Holly Herndon & Mat Dryhurst on a new paradigm of artmaking (NM86)
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// In part due to the rise of AI-enabled systems, we are witnessing a shift in where and how the creative act takes place. It is a phenomenon that artists Holly Herndon and Mat Dryhurst have been grappling with for more than a decade through their music and their work with machine learning and its governance. With their exhibition “The Call” on view at the Serpentine in London through February 2nd and their book All Media is Training Data out this week, Holly and Mat join NM to talk about a new paradigm of artmaking and artist subject. We also discuss a new kind of collector and the tech-literate gallerists that are bridging legacy cultural systems with this particular future.
For more:
herndondryhurst.studio
@hollyherndon & @matdryhurst
Source.Plus public diffusion model
Spawning.ai data governance for generative AI
"The Call" Serpentine North Gallery, London
All Media is Training Data (Serpentine, König, 2024)

Dec 8, 2024 • 42min
Preview | NM Greenroom: filmmakers/actors Betsey Brown & Peter Vack (2024)
This is a preview | Full episode released to subscribers: 30 Nov 2024 | Subscribe --> newmodels.io
NYC filmmaker-actor-sibling-duo Betsey Brown and Peter Vack join NM to reflect on the making and reception of their own and each other’s films, Actors (Brown, 2021) and www.RachelOrmont.com (Vack, 2024). Deliberately tuned to the affective frequency of the internet (desire, desperation, outrage), both works proceeded to inflame online channels to the point of being overshadowed by controversy—at least initially. With a little distance, we approach the films on their own terms: contemporary explorations of the psychoanalytic depths of self, society, and platform in a cyber-networked present.
Watch: www.actors.movie & www.RachelOrmont.com
Read: Peter Vack, Sillyboy https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B0D46C346T/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0
IG: @me_betseybrown/ & @themasterofcum
Episode image: adapted from Jon Rafman’s 2024 series of Peter and Betsey for Sex magazine #14

Nov 16, 2024 • 20min
Preview | NM Talkcore: writer Gideon Jacobs on Trump as image
This is a preview | Full episode released to subscribers: 11 Nov 2024 | Subscribe --> newmodels.io
// Writer Gideon Jacobs joins NM the day after the US election to discuss his essay “Trump l’Oeil,” which ran in the LA Review of Books, November 3. Opening with the images of Trump working at McDonalds, the piece explores what happens when images start conveying a realness that is untethered from reality; images that are generated (rather than taken) and, like Trump, succeed by claiming truths rather than dutifully indexing their referents. This is not a conversation about US policy or politics. Instead, it considers how our current media era is reshaping how the public thinks about both.
For more:
https://gideon.works & IG: @gideon___jacobs
https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/trump-loeil/

Oct 18, 2024 • 30min
Preview | Remilia Quarterly editor, L. B. Dobis (NM84)
Full Ep released to subscribers: 17 Sep 2024 | newmodels.io
// Remilia Corporation, founded in 2021 by Charlotte Fang, describes itself as an institution, a lifestyle brand, and an artist’s colony, among other things. As the group behind the influential and infamous Milady NFT project, Remilia also exemplifies a particularly contemporary artistic practice—one in which an online swarm algorithm-hacks certain language, images, and aesthetics into relevance, thereby generating their own market. Earlier this year, Remilia released issue one of Remilia Quarterly, a “literary magazine and critical journal for the New Net Art.” Joining us on this episode is the journal’s editor, L.B. Dobis.
"Remilia is a manifesto. Remilia is an institution. Remilia is a self-organization. Remilia is a lifestyle brand. Remilia is a master-planned community. Remilia is an investment fund. Remilia is an artist's colony. Remilia is a crowdfunded video game. Remilia is an autonomous smart contract. Remilia is an independent record label. Remilia is a community center for the digital village. Remilia will save the internet. […]"
For more:
https://quarterly.remilia.org
https://remilia.org

Oct 1, 2024 • 14min
Preview | NM Dispatch: The Jacket - Lil Internet (Sept 2024)
Full Ep released to subscribers: 1 Oct 2024 | newmodels.io
// This NM Dispatch monologue by @lilinternet is not about a physical place but a region of the internet—the increasingly adversarial realm of online shopping.
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Somewhat relatedly, we put together this product shortlist of baby items that we hope those new to (or curious about) early parenthood might find useful. https://www.newmodels.io/editorial/general/product-shortlist-the-baby-edit