Boagworld: UX, Design Leadership, Marketing & Conversion Optimization

Paul Boag, Marcus Lillington
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Nov 18, 2025 • 58min

E-commerce UX Secrets: What 200,000 Hours of Research Reveals About Conversion

If you run an e-commerce site or work on digital products, this conversation is packed with research-backed insights that could transform your conversion rates.Apps of the WeekBefore we get into our main discussion, we want to highlight a couple of tools that caught our attention recently.UX-Ray 2.0We talked about this last week, but it deserves another mention. UX-Ray from Baymard Institute is an extraordinary tool built on 150,000 hours (soon to be 200,000 hours) of e-commerce research. You can scan your site or a competitor's URL, and it analyzes it against Baymard's research database, providing specific recommendations for improvement.What makes UX-Ray remarkable is its accuracy. Baymard spent almost $100,000 just setting up a test structure with manually conducted UX audits of 50 different e-commerce sites across nearly 500 UX parameters. They then compared these line by line to how UX-Ray performed, achieving a 95% accuracy rate when compared to human experts. That accuracy is crucial because if a third of your recommendations are actually harmful to conversions, you end up wasting more time weeding those out than you saved.Currently, UX-Ray assesses 40 different UX characteristics. They could assess 80 parameters if they dropped the accuracy to 70%, but they chose quality over quantity. Each recommendation links back to detailed guides explaining the research behind the suggestion.For anyone working in e-commerce, particularly if you're trying to compete with larger players, this tool is worth exploring. There's also a free Baymard Figma plugin that lets you annotate your designs with research-backed insights, which is brilliant for justifying design decisions to stakeholders.SnapWe also came across Snap this week, which offers AI-driven nonfacilitated testing. The tool claims to use AI personas that go around your site completing tasks and speaking out loud, mimicking user behavior.These kinds of tools do our heads in a bit. On one hand, we're incredibly nervous about them because they could just be making things up. There's also the concern that they remove us from interacting with real users, and you don't build empathy with an AI persona the way you do with real people. But on the other hand, the pragmatic part of us recognizes that many organizations never get to do testing because management always says there's no time or money. Tools like this might enable people who would otherwise never test at all.At the end of the day, it comes down to accuracy and methodology. Before using any such tool, you should ask them to document their accuracy rate and show you that documentation. That will tell you how much salt to take their output with.E-commerce UX Best Practices with Christian HolstOur main conversation this month is with Christian Holst, Research Director and Co-Founder of Baymard Institute. We've been following Baymard's work for years, and having Christian on the show gave us a chance to dig into what nearly 200,000 hours of e-commerce research has taught them about conversion optimization.The Birth of Baymard InstituteChristian shared the story of how Baymard started about 15 years ago. His co-founder Jamie was working as a lead front-end developer at a medium-sized agency, and he noticed something frustrating about design decision meetings. When the agency prepared three different design variations, the decision often came down to who could argue most passionately (usually the designer who created that version), the boss getting impatient and just picking one, or the client simply choosing their favorite.Rarely did anyone say they had large-scale user experience data to prove which design would actually work better. They realized they could solve this problem by testing general user behavior across sites and looking for patterns that transcend individual websites. If they threw out the site-specific data and only looked for patterns across sites, they could uncover what are general user behaviors for specific UI components and patterns.It started with just checkout flows. It wasn't even clear they would ever move beyond that. But now, 15 years later, Baymard has a team of around 60 people, with 35 working full-time on conducting new research or maintaining existing research.The Role of Research-Backed GuidelinesOne important point Christian emphasized is that Baymard's research isn't meant to replace your own internal testing. You should always do your own data collection and usability testing. The point of having a large database of user behavior and test-based best practices is that when you're redesigning something, you have maybe 100 micro decisions to make. You can't run internal tests for every single one of those decisions.Even Fortune 500 companies that have the budget don't have the time to wait for results on every micro decision. So what happens is you collect research on the two or three big things that are site-specific or unique to your brand or customer demographic. But all the generic stuff (how to design an expand and collapse feature, how the quantity field should work, how the phone field should be designed in a checkout flow) these are extremely standardized UI components where users have standardized expectations.You shouldn't squander your internal test resources on testing things that are completely generic. That's where pre-made research comes in. It removes 97 of the micro decisions so you can focus your resources on what's unique and important to your brand.Common E-commerce Conversion KillersWe asked Christian what kills conversion the most on e-commerce sites. While it depends on each site's specific issues, there are some concrete things Baymard has consistently seen sites fail at that are surprisingly easy to fix.The Order Review TrapIn countries where you have an order review step (where users review the whole order before pressing "place order"), there's a really dangerous trap. The order review step and the order confirmation step look very similar in users' minds. Both are textual pages that appear after entering credit card data. Both show a summary of information.In testing, Baymard consistently sees some users misinterpret the order review step for a confirmation step. This is a critical error because these users will exit the page thinking they've completed their order. They don't even realize the abandonment occurred. It's the worst type of checkout abandonment that can happen.A very simple trick is to take the "place order" button that you usually have at the bottom of the page and duplicate it so there's also one at the top of the page. One audit client did this and got a $10 million return on investment from just duplicating that button. It won't affect 10% of users, but if it prevents one out of 200 users from abandoning, that's half a percent of all your site revenue you've recovered.Error Recovery ExperienceChristian called this "the least sexy but most important topic" in checkout flows. The general error recovery experience in checkout flows has improved over the 15 years Baymard has been researching, but it's still way too poor.When a validation error occurs, users struggle with three things:Understanding that an error actually happenedUnderstanding where the error isUnderstanding how to resolve itBest practices for error recovery:Provide visual styling for each field that's wrongHave a description at the top of the page that outlines all errorsUse conditional logic: if there's only one error, scroll them to that field. If there are multiple errors, scroll to the top where they can see the overviewBaymard sees users who fix one error, resubmit, and then get frustrated when the page reloads with another error they didn't see. They sometimes conclude the page is broken. When Baymard surveys users, 6% say they've abandoned a checkout flow in the past quarter due to perceived technical errors. Most of these aren't actual technical errors, the page is just extremely complicated to use.Adaptive Error MessagesInstead of saying "phone number is invalid," tell users exactly why. Your technical system knows exactly which validation rule was triggered. If the phone number is wrong because it includes a special character, tell them: "Special characters cannot be used. You don't need to include the country code." If it's too long or too short, say that specifically. This helps users recover faster.Ideally, much of this should be fixed in the backend. Postcodes are a great example, some people put a space in UK postcodes, some don't. Some write it all uppercase, some use mixed case. Why isn't this fixed in the backend? There should be something tidying it up and dropping it into the database in the correct format.Product Data and ImageryOne area where Baymard has seen genuine improvements is around product data and product imagery. Most sites took a long time to figure out that the content on the product details page is crucial to user experience.When users land on a product details page, 90-95% of what they do as a first action is look at the image. But they also use images for tasks where it's a terrible idea. For instance, if trying to figure out whether a speaker has the right connection, instead of going to the specification sheet, they look for images showing the speaker from the back to see the connections. If they can't see it, they conclude it doesn't have the connection and abandon that product.Users are extremely visually driven, even trying to use images to solve problems where it's a poor strategy. Sites need really good imagery from multiple angles, detailed videos showing what goes on visually, and proper product descriptions.Building Trust in E-commerceWe asked Christian about building trust beyond the lazy approach of just shoving social proof and awards on the site. His insights were revealing:Social Proof On and Off-SiteSocial proof is important both on your page and off it. If people are in doubt whether to trust you, they won't trust your version of whether they should trust you. They'll go offsite to check reviews. Responding to negative reviews is crucial because it helps explain or set context. Users often seek out negative reviews more than positive ones to do due diligence. They understand not every product is perfect for every user, but they want to know if the shortcomings are relevant to them.Return Policies and Professional DesignClear and generous return policies help build trust. But there's also the "aesthetic usability effect", having a well-worked design without complications builds trust and credibility. Sites that look too dated will degrade trust. If something looks like it was made in the nineties, users may question if it's too unprofessional.Simply having a site that's not too complicated to use also builds trust. If users get completely stuck, they may conclude it's too unprofessional or wonder if there's something wrong with the business.These effects depend quite a bit on whether people know the brand. It changes dramatically if it's a large known brand versus a completely unknown small site with new users.The Future: AI and E-commerceWe couldn't resist asking Christian about AI's impact on e-commerce. There are similarities to when voice applications came out five or six years ago. Everyone said we'd order everything with our voice, but that didn't really happen. This time may be different, but it won't go as fast as people think, at least not for all purchases.There are some commodity items and household staples you just want restocked when they run out. Those are well suited for AI purchasing, the same type of products you'd buy on subscription today. But many purchases require users to be in control.Where AI is already changing things massively is not in the complete purchase but in research and product discovery. Which digital camera should I buy? Which one is best for my requirements? This has always been an offsite experience. Users typically have multiple e-commerce sites, review sites, blogs, and social media open when researching purchases. That part is changing rapidly with AI.But going from winnowing down millions of products to a few options, then having AI auto-purchase one of them, will take quite a while before users are that confident. It may even be generational, people our age may never fully trust it even when it becomes trustworthy, while the next generation growing up with competent AI will develop different habits.Final ThoughtsWhat really strikes us about e-commerce optimization is how it's death by a thousand cuts. It's not that one of these things will wreck your conversion rate, but collectively they cause real problems. When you're dealing with an entire e-commerce site, there are so many little things that it's impossible to plan for all of them upfront. You will miss things.That's why post-launch optimization is crucial. There will always be things that need improving, and that ongoing work can span years. It's a big job, but the research and tools that organizations like Baymard provide make it far more manageable than trying to figure everything out from scratch.Marcus's JokeAnd now, as always, Marcus leaves us with his joke of the week:"My dad suggested I register for a donor card. He's a man after my own heart."That's actually quite good, Marcus. We'll allow it. Find The Latest Show Notes
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Oct 21, 2025 • 60min

Freelancing for Small Businesses: Real World Budget Constraints and High Stakes

In this engaging discussion, freelance web consultant Paul Edwards shares his journey supporting small businesses for two decades. He dives into the challenges of balancing best practices with the realities of limited budgets, emphasizing how these constraints shape web design. Paul elaborates on the value of long-term client relationships and the advantages of working with lower-overhead freelancers versus agencies. He also highlights how AI has transformed his workflow, helping him learn quickly and enhance results, while offering insights on adapting processes for clients' unique needs.
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Sep 23, 2025 • 55min

Dark Patterns, Bright Ideas: Why Deceptive Design Belongs in Accessibility

You know, those sneaky little tricks sites use to funnel you into doing things you never intended, like paying for insurance you didn’t want or scrolling until your thumb falls off.We talked about why this stuff isn’t just bad manners, but also an accessibility issue, and how to push back when your boss is shouting about conversion rates. We also wandered off into personas, because what’s a Boagworld Show without a tangent or two?App of the WeekThis week app is Be My Eyes. It’s designed to support blind and low-vision users by letting them connect with volunteers (or increasingly, AI) who can describe what’s in front of them. It’s practical, humane, and a great reminder that sometimes technology really does make life easier. Unlike my dishwasher, which still beeps at me like I’m trying to launch a nuclear missile.Topic of the Week: Deceptive Design, Accessibility, And The Real Cost Of ManipulationThis is where we rolled up our sleeves and got into the meat of it. What actually counts as deceptive design, why it’s more than just “bad UX,” and why the accessibility crowd are getting involved.What Do We Mean By Deceptive?There’s no single definition everyone agrees on, but the gist is: if you’re deliberately steering or trapping users into something they didn’t intend or need (and especially if it lines your company’s pockets) it’s deceptive. That’s different from an anti-pattern, which is just poor design born of ignorance.Why It’s An Accessibility IssueDeceptive patterns catch everyone out eventually, but they’re especially cruel to people with cognitive disabilities, attention difficulties, or those relying on assistive tech.If you’ve ever been stuck doomscrolling until you realized it’s not lunchtime but bedtime, you’ll know the feeling. The difference is, for some users, the consequences can be more than just a lost afternoon. That’s why accessibility guidelines are starting to take these patterns seriously.If you’re keen to see where this work is going, have a poke at these:WCAG 3 Working DraftW3C User StoriesProposed Personas DraftWhere It Gets MessyOf course, it’s rarely moustache-twirling villains plotting this stuff. Most of the time it’s teams chasing KPIs (sales, clicks, engagement) and nudging too far. That’s how you get:The big shiny green “Buy with insurance” button, while the “Buy without” option is hiding in grey.Cheaper plans buried three clicks down, so the expensive ones look like the only choice.The friendly phone call that turns into a hard sell for extended warranties.On paper the numbers look great. Meanwhile, refunds, complaints, and customer churn quietly tick upward. But hey, at least the dashboard looks good, right?The Role Of AIAI has the potential to make things better (look at how Be My Eyes uses it) but it also risks making things worse. More chatbots standing between you and an actual human being, for instance.At the moment we haven’t seen a tidal wave of AI-driven trickery, but the ingredients are all there. Somewhere in Silicon Valley, there’s probably a twenty-something rubbing his hands and plotting.Pushing Back Without Becoming UnemployedTelling your boss “this is unethical” might get you a polite nod. Showing them how deceptive patterns increase refunds, tank repeat purchases, and hike up customer support costs? That’s when people start listening. Always lead with the business case, because sadly “doing the right thing” isn’t enough in most boardrooms.Offer alternatives that still meet goals but don’t annoy users. Equal-weight buttons. Clear language. Confirmations before adding sneaky extras. And if management still insists, put your concerns in an email so there’s a record. Nobody likes receiving an email that basically says, “I warned you.”Personas With A Bit More RealityWhile we’re at it, let’s talk personas. Most marketing personas are about as useful as a chocolate teapot. They’re built around demographics and stereotypes. King Charles and Ozzy Osbourne would end up in the same persona (same age, same country, both live in castles). Clearly useless.Instead, think functional personas. Base them on needs, tasks, objections, and accessibility requirements.You don’t need a “disabled persona.” Just make sure some of your personas have traits like dyslexia, ADHD, low vision, or anxiety about being conned. That way, you’ve got a ready-made reason to say, “This won’t work for Priya, who relies on a screen reader.”The Big PictureDeception feels like a shortcut. It isn’t. It costs you in trust, support overhead, and long-term loyalty. Treat deceptive design as an accessibility barrier, argue with data, and keep users in your personas. That way you’ll serve both your customers and your company—and maybe sleep better at night.Read of the WeekIn this week’s show we also highlighted two cracking resources:Deceptive DesignA collection of manipulative patterns with real examples. Perfect for calling out “that thing the boss wants us to try.”Deceptive Patterns and FAST by Todd LibbySlides from Todd’s talk. Great for showing stakeholders that you’re not just making it up as you go along.Marcus JokeWe’ll wrap up with Marcus’s groaner of the week:“I told a joke on a Zoom meeting and nobody laughed. Turns out I am not even remotely funny.” Find The Latest Show Notes
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Aug 19, 2025 • 59min

Why Your UX Needs a Trust Audit

Trust is becoming essential in the digital landscape, where scams and misinformation abound. The hosts discuss the effectiveness of emotion-reading apps, diving into the unsettling nature of AI in our lives. They emphasize how clear communication and visual consistency can enhance trust. The necessity for inclusive design is also highlighted, as it fosters belonging among diverse users. Additionally, they explore the idea of productizing services while maintaining clarity and flexibility. Trust audits are recommended for assessing user experience.
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Jul 22, 2025 • 56min

Scaling UX in a Decentralized World: Inside Oxford

In this discussion, Sarah Zama, the UX Lead at the University of Oxford with a passion for enhancing design, shares her insights on navigating UX in a decentralized environment. She reveals her journey of establishing a UX center of excellence and fostering a culture of user-centered design. The conversation touches on Apple’s design shortcomings regarding accessibility and humorous thoughts on AI wearables. Additionally, Sarah introduces the Zuko Form Analytics app, a game-changer for optimizing user engagement and conversion.
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Jun 16, 2025 • 55min

The Future Of UX With Jared Spool

Join Jared Spool, a guiding light for UX professionals, as he discusses the urgent need for UX to evolve strategically amidst AI advancements. The conversation dives into the skepticism surrounding Figma's new tools and introduces Ready, an AI app that turns natural language into code, enhancing productivity for designers. They also tackle the UX job market's tough landscape, offering advice for newcomers navigating their careers. With humor and insight, Jared and the hosts explore how to remain hopeful and adaptable in a changing industry.
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May 22, 2025 • 50min

Creating Personality-Driven Design Experiences

Join Andy Clarke, a visionary designer known for his artistic approach to web projects, as he dives into the fascinating world of personality-driven design. He emphasizes the importance of aesthetics in UX and how it fosters emotional connections with users. The conversation highlights the role of AI in conducting user interviews, showcasing a tool that mimics natural interaction. Clarke also critiques the mechanization of modern design and champions the need for creativity and storytelling, making a case for more human-centered approaches in all facets of design.
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Apr 22, 2025 • 48min

The Job Title Train Wreck

Join the hosts as they navigate the chaotic world of design job titles, unpacking the nuances between roles like UX, UI, and product designer. They share a fun dinner story with an accessibility expert and delve into how inconsistent naming can confuse employers and applicants alike. Discover an exciting new app, Bolt, that enhances Figma prototypes by adding real form fields for usability testing. Wrap up with humorous anecdotes and a classic joke that will leave you smiling!
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Apr 10, 2025 • 46min

Beyond Usability: Why Emotion and Delight Matter in UX

Discover how emotional design can elevate user experiences beyond mere usability. The conversation reveals surprising insights about friction enhancing interactions and the importance of creating memorable interfaces. There's a critical look at AI-powered design tools, showcasing both their limitations and potential for user research. The hosts share personal anecdotes, including adventurous plans and wedding updates, while offering tips for giving constructive feedback in a collaborative environment. Expect a mix of humor and valuable design wisdom!
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Mar 27, 2025 • 49min

Redefine Your Role

Unlock the secrets to redefining your role as a UX design leader and taking charge of your influence in organizations. Discover the precarious state of UX agencies and how they can thrive amidst evolving challenges. Explore the dual nature of AI as both a boon and a distraction, reshaping collaboration in UX design. This week’s tool, UXPressia, empowers teams to visualize customer journeys and engage non-designers in research. Dive into strategies for enhancing your impact and embracing a new era of user experience!

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