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Charlie and Frankie
Thirty-something life, honestly. Journalists and best mates Charlie Gowans-Eglinton and Frankie Graddon talk about everything from imposter syndrome and pandemic pregnancy to bad dates and worse hair days. Love, money, frocks and spots: it's all up for discussion
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Sep 3, 2020 • 43min
31. First days in the office, Mariah Carey's memoir, and falling back in love with London
This week, Charlie is getting ready for her first day in a proper office since March, and wondering what the etiquette is now that handshakes are off the agenda. Meanwhile Frankie's trying not to hug strangers in the street and asking, have we lost the art of non verbal communication? We discuss the future of fashion week (welcome to the Zoom frow) and how to fall back in love with the city after lockdown.
Plus, we share the books and celebrity interviews that currently have us hooked, as we toast the end of white wine season with a glass of Terredavino Gavi Venturina (for Charlie, Franks is having a water - snore).
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Links from the episode:
Jerry Seinfeld: So you think New York is 'dead' (it's not) – Jerry Seinfeld, The New York Times
You don't know her - Alison P Davis, New York Magazine
Loving a champion hugger in an air-hug season - Arielle Cook-Shonkoff, The New York Times

Aug 28, 2020 • 38min
30. Bagnums, Paris Hilton nostalgia, and playing Pollyanna
This week, Charlie's indulging in a bit of pop-culture nostalgia with a Brangelina update and news of Paris' new favourite word... while Frankie confirms - from personal experience - that her iconic baby voice is bogus.
Following the police shooting of Jacob Blake, Frankie's highlighting the difference between amplifying Black voices and amplifying Black trauma. Plus, we're sharing our reading lists for the week, and discussing a new podcast that highlights the power of optimism. And, since the episode was recorded in the morning for a change, we swapped the wine glasses for coffee cups, and a bag of Monmouth's organic espresso beans.
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Links from the episode:
Sorry, consuming trauma porn is not allyship - Ashlee Marie Preston, Marie Claire
Petition: Justice for Jacob Blake
Donate: Justice for Jacob Blake
Donate: Black Lives Matter
Donate: #EachDayEveryDay - The Black Heart Foundation (UK)
Paris Hilton: 'I never got to live my childhood' - Laura Pullman, Sunday Times Style
The Cut Podcast - Avery Trufelman
Redundancy: how it changed my outlook - Alexandra Stedman, The Frugality
Anna Whitehouse, aka Mother Pukka: 'I was like a laptop slowly shutting down until only the basic keyboard function was there' - Grazia
Things you only know if you've had postpartum psychosis - Laura Dockrill, Grazia

Aug 21, 2020 • 29min
29: The power of low-stakes productivity, when horoscopes go wrong and what’s happened to my eyebrows?
This week, Charlie’s horoscope has got her questioning her emotional state, while Frankie is coming to terms with the reality that her eyebrows have done a runner. We discuss the comparison culture of pandemic productivity and why celebrating small wins could be the answer we’ve been looking for.
Plus, we share the articles and TV shows on our radars this week – all over a bottle of Tesco Finest Chianti for Charlie and Oatly Chocolate Drink for Frank.
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Links from the episode
The Power of Low-Stakes productivity - Leah Fessner, New York Times
Lockdown Revolutionised The ‘Respect Your Elders’ Dynamic With My Parents – Yomi Adegoke, Vogue.co.uk

Aug 14, 2020 • 45min
28. Doomscrolling, the joy of saying no, and the death of 'flattering' fashion
This week, we're talking about the dangers of doomscrolling during a pandemic, taking a leaf out of Nancy Mitford's book when it comes to our workloads, and questioning whether it's time to retire the word 'flattering' when we talk about fashion.
Plus, we're sharing our recommendations - and discussing why Selling Sunset is as problematic as it is addictive - over a bottle of Cocio chocolate milk... well, we did record this episode during a heatwave.
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Links from the episode:
Are you guilty of doomscrolling? How the unhealthy new social media trend is eroding your mental health - Beth McColl, Glamour
'Doomscrolling' during Covid-19: what it does to you and how you can avoid it - Christopher Curley, Healthline
The new taboo: how 'flattering' became fashion's ultimate f-word - Jess Cartner-Morley, The Guardian

Aug 7, 2020 • 44min
27. Toxic spirituality, debunking the beach body ready myth and have staycations signalled the end of silly swimwear?
In this week’s episode, Frankie’s new supermarket purchase is making her consider how staycations have changed swimwear, while Charlie’s trip to the seaside has put a new – and far more pleasant – spin on what it is to be beach body ready.
We discuss the pitfalls of the positivity industry in a pandemic and ask, why aren’t women better at attributing success to their own abilities. Plus we share the pieces and podcasts that have piqued our interest – all over a bottle of Terra Organica Primitivo for Charles, and a glass of Belvoir Elderflower and Rose Pressé for Frank.
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Links from the episode:
Has Coronavirus Finally Put a Stop to Toxic Spirituality - Vicky Spratt for Refinery29
The Michelle Obama Podcast
Bipolar Disorder: Why We Need to Keep Talking About it After the Headlines Fade - Sally Newall for Harper’s Bazaar
You Don’t Batch Cook When You’re Suicidal (formerly: The Price of Potatoes & The Value of Compassion - Jack Monroe for cookingonabootstrap.com
‘Indian Matchmaking’: The Dark Reality Behind Your Latest Netflix Binge - Meehika Barua for vogue.co.uk

Jul 31, 2020 • 43min
26. Boris' BMI shaming, pregnancy body image and 'big' friendships
This week, the government's plans to combat obesity have got us talking about our relationships with food, from emotional to disordered - and why we don't think calorie counts on menus will solve anything.
Plus, Frankie's sharing the surprising impact that pregnancy has had on her body image, Charlie's realising that lockdown has made her less able to compromise, and we're sharing our tips for the best films, TV shows, books and articles this week - all over a glass of fancy Duskin apple juice for Frankie and a Tucci-approved negroni for Charlie.
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Links from the episode:
We need empathy, compassion and a focus on mental health - not calorie counts on menus - Daisy Buchanan for Grazia
There's a divide in even the closest interracial friendships including ours - Aminatou Sow and Ann Friedman for The Cut
'I want people to look around and realise the greatest romances of your life can be your friends' - Evette Dionne for Glamour
Tiny love stories - The New York Times

Jul 24, 2020 • 43min
25. Book thieves, patchy pubes and why we need to talk about unemployment
This week, Charlie is discussing the pressure to nail a reopening look and asking, why are women's appearances still allowed to be commented on? With unemployment on the rise, Frankie shares her own experiences of job loss and explains why shedding the stigma of redundancy is vital in a pandemic.
We're also asking, are you a book lender or hoarder? Plus, we share our recommendations of what to watch and read this week – all over a Sipsmith G&T for Charlie, and Luscombe Cool Ginger Beer for Franks.
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Links from the episode:
You Write It And Now You Know It Sucks - The Cut
White Supremacy Was Her World. And The She Left - by Seward Darby for The New York Times

Jul 17, 2020 • 49min
24. People fatigue, extreme paddleboarding, and #FreeBritney
This week, Charlie - having wanted nothing more than to socialise while she was in lockdown alone - is now finding other people exhausting, while Frankie's finally dipped a toe into Devonian waters with an ill-fated attempt at a paddleboard pub-crawl. We're discussing both over a glass of M&S Atlantis Santorini for Charlie and Sainsbury's alcohol-free rosé for Frankie.
Plus, we're talking about the #FreeBritney movement and cancel culture, and sharing our recommendations for what to read and watch this week. To hear more from us, sign up at TheWingwoman.co.uk to receive our free weekly newsletter every Sunday. Email us at thewingwomanofficial@gmail.com.
Links from episode:
Viola Davis: "My Entire Life has been a Protest" - by Sonia Saraiya for Vanity Fair (photography by Dario Calmese)
Simone Biles on Overcoming Abuse, the Postponed Olympics, and Training During a Pandemic - by Abby Aguirre for Vogue

Jul 10, 2020 • 46min
23. Menstrual cups, Jess Glynne’s Sexy Fish and has lockdown signalled the end of city life?
This week, Frankie is negotiating beachwear in the depths of Devon, while Charlie welcomes her first house guest and introduces herself to the thrills (and spills) of menstrual cups. We discuss Jess Glynne’s Sexy Fish dress code mishap – joggy bots and lobster anyone? – and ask, what will happen to city life after lockdown?
Plus, we share the articles, podcasts and audio books on our radars – all over a glass of Calcarius Hellen Rosso.
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Jul 3, 2020 • 50min
22. 'Reopening' makeovers, comment-section trolls, and the summer holiday split
As lockdown loosens up, Charlie's mourning the return of FOMO - selfie on a yacht, anyone? - and Frankie's (quite nervously) heading off to visit her parents in Devon. But will this be the summer of the staycation, or will you be booking a flight sharpish?
Plus, we're talking aubergine-related twitter shade, online trolls, and 'reopening' looks (think drastic dye-job), and sharing our book and TV recommendations, all over a glass of Elementa Organic Primitivo for Charlie and Fever-Tree Tonic for Frankie.
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