Technically Legal - A Legal Technology and Innovation Podcast

Andrea Muttoni, President of the Story Foundation and former Amazon product manager, shares his journey from music production to blockchain innovation. He discusses the mission of Story Protocol, which aims to simplify intellectual property registration and licensing using blockchain technology. Muttoni introduces the Programmable IP License, ensuring transparent rights for creators, and unveils Poseidon, a marketplace for sourcing IP-cleared data to support AI training. His insights highlight how blockchain can reshape copyright in the AI era, securing fair compensation for creators.

Avaneesh Marwaha, CEO of Litera and former IP lawyer, shares his inspiring transition from law to tech entrepreneurship. He discusses his motivations for seeking an active business role and the value of a legal education in the corporate world. Avaneesh reveals Litera's transformation into a comprehensive legal tech ecosystem, powered by AI, and highlights its strategic partnership with Microsoft. Additionally, he offers insights on the challenges startups face and how Litera is innovating to enhance productivity in law firms while focusing on proactive client service.

In this engaging discussion, Anna Guo, Founder of LegalBenchmarks.ai and former BigLaw attorney, dives into her groundbreaking research on legal AI tools. She reveals how AI can enhance human legal performance, highlighting stark contrasts between general-purpose and legal-specific AI. Key findings show that while AI can outshine humans in contract drafting, humans and AI together may not always outperform the best AI alone. Anna emphasizes the importance of qualitative usability over mere accuracy, making a compelling case for the future of legal technology.

In the most listened to episode of 2025, author of "Systemology" and business systems expert, David Jenyns, discusses the importance of systemizing business processes, even in the nuanced field of law. Jenyns debunks the myth that legal work is too bespoke to be systemized, explaining how just like any other business, documenting legal workflows unlocks scalability and creativity. He shares his journey from digital SEO agency owner to becoming a systems expert and outlines the seven steps of his Systemology framework. Key Topics: The importance of documenting processes in any business, including legal services. How systemization can create space for creativity in legal work. The Systemology framework and its seven steps: Define, Assign, Extract, Organize, Integrate, Scale, and Optimize. The role of a "systems champion" in implementing a systems culture. Addressing common misconceptions about systemizing legal work. Practical tips for getting started with systemizing processes. Resources Mentioned: Systemology book by David Jenyns System Hub software The E-Myth by Michael Gerber Systemology Podcast (Mentioned interview with Crow Estate Planning firm) Episode Credits Editing and Production: Grant Blackstock Theme Music: Home Base (Instrumental Version) by TA2MI Want to keep up to date about new episodes? Technically Legal Update List. Want to learn more about Percipient (percipient.co)? Follow Chad on Linkedin: Chad Main | LinkedIn Follow the podcast on LinkedIn: Technically Legal | LinkedIn Follow the podcast on Instagram: Technically Legal | Instagram Follow the podcast on X: Technically Legal | X

Meredith Kildow, President of Consilio, is an experienced leader in legal services and eDiscovery, with a strong background in finance. She shares insights on her transition from finance to operations and her role in building revenue organizations. The conversation highlights AI's practical applications in the legal field, including contract review and eDiscovery, while emphasizing the importance of AI literacy among legal professionals. Meredith also discusses the need for collaboration between sales and operations to enhance service delivery and meet client demands for efficiency.

Cecilia Ziniti, CEO of GC.AI, shares her remarkable journey from paralegal at Yahoo to leading a legal AI platform designed specifically for in-house counsel. She discusses the limitations of general AI tools like ChatGPT in legal contexts, emphasizing the need for citation and security. Cecilia introduces GC.AI's innovative features, such as enhanced document analysis and workflow-based playbooks, aimed at transforming legal practice and ensuring accurate, client-focused analysis. The conversation also explores trends in legal tech and the shift towards in-house legal work.

Sabastian Niles, President and Chief Legal Officer at Salesforce, shares insights from his impressive journey transitioning from a prestigious law firm to a leadership role in corporate legal strategy. He discusses the importance of self-awareness for aspiring in-house counsel and highlights how Salesforce Legal acts as 'customer zero' by utilizing its own technology. Sabastian also explains the pivotal role of AI guardrails in fostering trust and innovation, ensuring legal becomes an accelerant for business growth rather than a blocker.

Join Anna Guo, a former BigLaw lawyer turned entrepreneur and founder of Legalbenchmarks.ai, as she explores the intriguing world of legal AI tools. Discover her groundbreaking research on measuring the 'delta' between human performance and AI capabilities. Anna discusses how specialized AI often outshines general tools in relevance and coherence for legal tasks. She reveals surprising findings about AI's effectiveness in tasks like contract drafting and highlights when to lean on technology versus human judgment. Get ready to rethink the future of law!

Justin Wales, Head of Legal at Crypto.com and author of The Crypto Legal Handbook, shares his career journey from constitutional law to crypto law, ignited by WikiLeaks and Bitcoin. He reflects on founding one of the first crypto legal practices and emphasizes that lawyers must embrace technology to thrive in this fast-evolving field. The discussion covers the crucial difference between centralized and decentralized finance, and Justin argues that blockchain will support future innovations like AI and IoT. Advice for aspiring crypto lawyers centers on avoiding hyper-specialization.