

Pakistonomy
Tabadlab
Pakistan's first podcast focused on the country's economy, simplifying the complex relationships between paisa, politics and the public.
Presented by Tabadlab.
Presented by Tabadlab.
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Sep 13, 2024 • 33min
Episode 213 - PTI's Plan for Pakistan's Democracy
Pakistan’s parliament has historically been one of the weakest institutions in the country, but even by those standards, events that transpired over this past week have set a new low. Masked men entered parliament and took away numerous PTI legislators, who were subsequently arrested by the police. This has caused an uproar across the country, with the PTI leading the charge in terms of talking about the sustained and accelerating decimation of the rule of law and democracy in the country.
In this episode, Uzair talks to Salman Akram Raja about what happened in parliament and what comes next. Mr. Raja is Secretary General of the PTI and a senior supreme court lawyer. We also talked about coalition building and how the PTI intends to reach out to other groups who have been protesting against similar violations for years.
Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
1:45 What happened in parliament?
8:30 Ways to strengthen parliament
13:50 Situation in the judiciary
20:45 What is the PTI’s overall engagement strategy?
26:10 Gandapur, divisions, and coalition building
31:40 PTI’s outreach to PTM and others

Aug 22, 2024 • 41min
Episode 212 - Running Across Pakistan for Education
In this episode, Uzair talks to Tabarak Rehman who is attempting to become the first person ever to run 1,400 kilometers across the length of Pakistan to raise awareness around the country’s education crisis. His goal is to raise $1 million for The Citizens Foundation, an incredible non-profit that operates nearly 2,000 schools in Pakistan.
Tabarak is a New York-based Turnaround & Restructuring Consultant at AlixPartners, who’s also super passionate about educating Pakistani students. Through his social media, he has guided hundreds of Pakistani students toward higher education in the U.S., even helping secure over a million dollars in student loans for at least 30 of them.
His academic journey started from his boarding high school, Cadet College Hasan Abdal after which he went to IBA Karachi for his undergrad and then Northeastern University in Boston, where he earned his Master's degree. He also holds a CFA Charter.
You can support Tabarak’s cause here - https://fundraise.tcfglobal.org/fundraiser/384593207740/tabarak-runs-across-pakistan-for-education
Follow Tabarak’s run here - https://www.instagram.com/tabarakruns/
Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
3:20 Tabarak’s journey
14:45 Resources for getting an education in the US
20:30 Running 1,400 kilometers
26:30 Training regimen
32:00 How to help
38:10 Reading recommendations
Reading recommendations:
- David and Goliath by Malcolm Gladwell
- The Richest Man in Babylon by George Clason
- Built to Last by James C. Collins and Jerry I. Porras

Aug 16, 2024 • 54min
Episode 211 - Did Pakistan Truly Achieve Freedom?
In this episode, Uzair talks to Dr. Ilhan Niaz about where Pakistan stands today and the nature of the status quo ruling the country. We also talked about the mainstreaming of anti-establishment views and what that means for the politics in the country.
Finally, we also talked about modernization and the role of the Protestant Reformation in kick-starting this process in Europe, and whether Pakistan has the core ingredients to modernize.
Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
1:30 Independence Day 2024
4:15 Where did Pakistan go wrong?
14:50 Assessing the status quo today
21:00 Anti-establishment views in Punjab
29:15 Protestant Reformation and modernity
39:55 Can Pakistan modernize?
51:50 Reading recommendations
Reading recommendations
- Great State – China and the World by Timothy Brook
- Asad Rahim’s essay in Dawn - https://www.dawn.com/news/1852072/the-two-partitions-polemics-purges-and-pakistans-first-opposition-party

Aug 12, 2024 • 48min
Episode 210 - What happened in Bangladesh and what comes next?
In this episode, Uzair talks to Amb. Shamsher Mubin Chowdhury about what led to the collapse of the Hasina regime in Bangladesh and what comes next for the country. We focused on the reasons why younger citizens were angry with the government and reports of violence against Hindus over the last few days. We also discussed whether foreign agencies led to Hasina’s ouster.
Amb. Chowdhury is a war hero who took active part in the Bangladesh War of Liberation in 1971. For his bravery and contribution in the battlefield the Government of Bangladesh conferred upon him the gallantry award Bir Bikram. He has also served as a top diplomat for Bangladesh around the world, including as Ambassador of Bangladesh to the United States of America, with concurrent accreditation to Colombia, Brazil and Mexico from 2005 to 2007.
Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
2:20 What just happened?
17:40 Claims of foreign involvement
29:20 Secularism in Bangladesh
40:05 What comes next?

Aug 2, 2024 • 1h
Episode 209 - What's going on in Balochistan?
Balochistan’s city of Gwadar has been the center of protests for the last few days. Roads and highways leading into the city have been blocked and countless protestors have been arrested. Uzair talks to Dr. Mahvish Ahmad to figure out what is going on in the province and better understand the underlying reasons for the crisis in Balochistan.
Dr. Mahvish Ahmad is an Assistant Professor in Human Rights and Politics. Before joining LSE, she was an A.W. Mellon Postdoctoral Fellow at the Centre for Humanities Research, University of the Western Cape. She completed her PhD in Sociology at Cambridge. Earlier, Mahvish was a journalist covering military and insurgent violence in the Pakistan-Afghanistan region, and co-founded the bilingual Urdu/English magazine Tanqeed with Madiha Tahir. She is currently completing a book on state violence in Pakistan’s southern province of Balochistan.
Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
2:05 What’s going on in the province?
7:00 Multiple issues driving protests
13:30 Missing persons
19:05 Resource extraction
25:40 Historical drivers
32:55 Baloch protestors v. TLP
37:10 Islamabad politics and Balochistan
42:05 Evolution of Baloch society
51:05 Path forward
57:20 Reading recommendations
Reading recommendations:
- https://loksujag.com/special-edition/bloch-women-long-march
- https://repositories.lib.utexas.edu/items/dee93c5f-6f5e-43a8-bfd7-e79de8d2d35f
- https://caravanmagazine.in/reportage/home-front-changing-insurgency-balochistan
- https://www.scribd.com/document/554334646/The-Problem-of-Greater-Balochistan-PDFDrive

Jul 26, 2024 • 60min
Episode 208 - Can the status quo be sustained in Pakistan? (Urdu)
In this episode, Uzair talks to Zaigham Khan about the ongoing polycrisis in Pakistan and the path forward. We focused on the structural drivers of this conflict, in particular the breaking down of the post-Zia social contract that has sustained Pakistan’s political economy for decades. Zaigham argues that the PTI’s popularity is a symptom of the underlying breakdown of this social contract and that repression is unlikely to yield any sustainable stability in the country.
We also discussed why fundamental reforms of the political economy are needed to even sustain the various elite factions ruling the country today.
Zaigham Khan is an anthropologist and political analyst. You can follow him on X @zaighamkhan.
Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
1:45 What is causing the crisis?
8:50 PTI’s conversion to constitutionalism
18:30 Elite conflict in Pakistan
28:50 Can same page be sustained?
33:45 Why are the elite fighting within?
42:10 Breakdown of the status quo
46:50 Establishment view on repression
56:20 Reading recommendations
Reading recommendations
- The Alif Laila and other mythological books
- Masnavi by Rumi
- Political Conflict in Pakistan by Dr. Mohammad Waseem

Jul 19, 2024 • 44min
Episode 207 - Is a Hezbollah-Israel War Imminent?
In this episode, Uzair talks to Faysal Itani about the ongoing conflict between Israel and Hezbollah. We talked about the current state of play, the strategic goals for both sides, and the role of the United States, Iran, and other powers.
Faysal Itani is a Senior Director at the New Lines Institute for Strategy and Policy. He is also an adjunct professor of Middle East politics at Georgetown University. Itani was born in and grew up in Beirut, Lebanon, and has lived and worked in several Middle East countries.
Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
1:45 Current state of play
21:10 Washington’s appetite for regional conflict
29:10 Role of US politics and elections
33:25 Key risks to watch
37:40 Role of China and Russia
41:40 Reading recommendations
Reading recommendations:
- Warriors of God by Nicholas Blanford
- The Iron Wall by Avi Shlaim
- History of the Peloponnesian War by Thucydides

Jul 16, 2024 • 41min
Episode 206 - Why a PTI ban may shake the foundations of Pakistan
In this episode, Uzair talks to Zahid Hussain about the latest in Pakistan, where the Sharif government has announced it will seek to ban Imran Khan’s PTI. This is a dangerous move and Zahid helps us understand why this reflects the ruling regime’s weakness.
We also talked about internal politics within the Pakistan Army and why this confrontation is headed in a very dangerous direction for Pakistan.
Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
1:45 PTI ban reasons
14:05 Surveillance in Pakistan
19:20 Supreme Court v. Establishment
28:30 Internal politics of the army
37:00 What comes next?

Jul 14, 2024 • 41min
Episode 205 - France Resists the Far Right, For Now
In this episode, Uzair talks to Gilles Verniers about the recent French parliamentary election results. With many expecting gridlock in Paris, Gilles helps us understand what the results mean and what comes next for the country.
Gilles Verniers is Karl Loewenstein Fellow and Visiting Assistant Professor of Political Science at Amherst College, and Senior Fellow at the Centre for Policy Research, New Delhi. He also holds affiliations with the Centre for Advanced Studies of India at UPenn, and the Centre de Sciences Humaines in New Delhi. His research focuses on Indian electoral and party politics, political representation, women and minorities participation in politics and India’s democratic trajectory. He regularly contributes to various Indian media and was based in Delhi from 2005 to 2023. He graduated from Sciences Po, Paris.
You can read his recent pieces on the elections here:
- https://m.thewire.in/article/world/france-election-far-right-marine-le-pen-macron
- https://thewire.in/world/france-dodges-a-bullet-for-now-but-sinks-in-uncertainty
Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
2:05 Understanding the differences in the groups
9:30 The normalization of the far-right
20:40 Lack of coalition culture in France
30:05 Personalization of acrimony
33:01 The left’s agenda and its foreign policy
38:20 Reading recommendations
Reading recommendations
- Cas Mudde, The Far Right Today (2019)
- James Shields (2007), The Extreme Right in France: From Pétain to Le Pen

Jul 3, 2024 • 35min
Ep 204 - Assessing Biden's Policy Towards Israel and Palestine
This episode is about assessing Joe Biden’s foreign policy as it relates to the ongoing conflict in Gaza. While not a whole lot has changed in terms of the substance of US policy towards Palestine and Israel, a lot has indeed changed in terms of the political discourse in Washington.
Uzair talked to Matt Duss about these developments and the long-term implications of Biden’s foreign policy choices. We also talked about the prospects for a broad agreement with Saudi Arabia, and the ways in which communities can engage at the grassroots levels to influence foreign policy.
Matt Duss is Executive Vice-President at the Center for International Policy. The Center for International Policy is a woman-led, progressive, independent nonprofit center for research, education, and advocacy working to advance a more peaceful, just, and sustainable U.S. approach to foreign policy.
Before joining CIP, Duss was a visiting scholar in the American Statecraft Program at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. From 2017-22, Duss was foreign policy advisor to Senator Bernie Sanders (I-Vt). Duss’s work has been widely published, including in The New York Times, The Washington Post, Foreign Affairs, The Nation, The American Prospect, and Foreign Policy.
Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
2:20 What has changed in Washington?
5:20 Role of AIPAC
8:40 America’s leverage over Israel
12:20 Impact of the presidential debate
18:35 Long-term implications of US choices
22:10 Saudi-Israel normalization
27:10 Key risks on the horizon
30:30 What can we do to change policy?
32:45 Reading recommendations
Reading recommendations
- The Price of Peace: Money, Democracy, and the Life of John Maynard Keynes by Zachary D. Carter
- Miles: The Autobiography by Miles Davis and Quincy Troupe