
Heterodorx
“Based TERF and Tranny” Nina Paley and Cori Cohn talk about gender — and anything else they find interesting and/or horrifying — with warmth, sarcasm, respect, cutting intelligence, more sarcasm, and disarming honesty. heterodorx.substack.com
Latest episodes

Jul 4, 2024 • 1h 4min
Armed and Gay and Running for President with Chase Oliver
Libertarian Party candidate for US President Chase Oliver forced a runoff election in Georgia in 2022, is a former Democrat, loves guns, hates taxes, was disappointed in Obama, is the first openly gay presidential candidate on most ballots, is dyslexic and dysgraphic, likes audiobooks, would like to weaken the office of President, will be 39 in August, wants government out of education (and pretty much everything else), supports the harm reduction model of addition management, implies free market will solve everything, and sounds like a politician. Cori earnestly tries to convince Oliver of the problems of medicalizing “trans kids”; Nina pleads for protections for individuals and asks if Pacifism is a luxury belief; and our interview is briefly interrupted by a power outage. This is the first in our series of Heterodorx Interviews With US Presidential Candidates. We’re waiting for the Trump and Biden campaigns to get in touch so we can finish. Links:Find Chase @chaseforliberty on all major social media platformsChase Oliver website: https://www.votechaseoliver.com/Chase Oliver 2024 Explained - Illustrate to Educate video: https://youtu.be/pGh2cYIPWsI?si=4xDXcoiqb6z4z_oIAgainst Intellectual Property by Stephan Kinsella: https://mises.org/library/book/against-intellectual-propertyOur Stephan Kinsella episode: https://www.heterodorx.com/podcast/episode-10-i-p-everywhere-featuring-guest-heterodork-stephan-kinsella/Nina’s IndyGoGo canceling: https://blog.ninapaley.com/2023/01/06/indiegogo-cancels-agents-of-h-a-g/--- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/heterodorx/support Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

Jun 27, 2024 • 1h 31min
Ideology Obscuring Orientation with Jules Louise
Jules Louise was same-sex attracted, but more importantly she wanted to be a Good Person and “safe space for others” — so wound up married to a man. How did that happen? In this nuanced, heartfelt, and open conversation, Jules recalls her indoctrination into an ideology which destabilized her understanding of the world and herself, and her later emergence, along with that of her husband, detransitioned autogynephile Ray Alex Williams. We discuss Social Justice Camp, the Five Isms, hormones, polyamory, crossdressing vs dressing in crosses, internalized homophobia, Marxist Feminist analysis, the importance of material reality, phenomena, reconceptualizing vulnerability, and leaving the cult of gender for the cult of Taylor Swift. Plus: Cori correctly guesses the sex of a “they,” Nina is a cruel and horrible person who will never be invited to dinner at some people’s houses, and a proposed TERF-Tranny Christmas in July! Links:Our Ray Alex Williams episode: https://www.heterodorx.com/podcast/episode-121-unblinded-by-the-light-with-ray-alex-williams/Gender: A Wider Lens: https://www.widerlenspod.com/Phenomena: https://youtu.be/Dnk0Be4a0aw?si=n-Q4Au7QE8_i1eqyOur Jamie Reed episode: https://www.heterodorx.com/podcast/episode-126-mitigating-the-damage-with-jamie-reed/Nina’s Sex-Pozzie Memoirs: https://4w.pub/sex-pos-memoirs/The Man Who Would Be Queen by Michael Bailey (free PDF): https://faculty.wcas.northwestern.edu/JMichael-Bailey/TMWWBQ.pdfCaliban and the Witch by Silvia Federici: https://www.akpress.org/calibanandthewitch.htmlThe Lesbian Heresy: a Feminist Perspective by Sheila Jeffreys: https://sheila-jeffreys.com/book/the-lesbian-heresy-a-feminist-perspective/For more information about RISE on The Land for WOMEN, email Char at riseontheland2020s@gmail.com--- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/heterodorx/support Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

Jun 17, 2024 • 49min
The Gospel of Disenchantment with Corinna and Nina
Cori and Nina visit Saint Mary-of-the-Woods and witness several miracles, including light tailwinds both directions of Nina's 168-mile bike trip, not having to play Spirit Island, and an epiphany or two while praying the rosary. Will Cori minister to the trannies? Is Nina distinguishable from a Sister of Providence? Have you heard the Good News about Reality? An impromptu recording we just made while catching up this afternoon. Oh yeah there were alpacas there!Link:Death Before Detransition: https://corinnacohn.substack.com/p/death-before-detransition-yes--- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/heterodorx/support Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

Jun 13, 2024 • 1h 18min
Man of Steele with Eli Steele
Eli Steele’s documentaries challenge narratives favored by guilty white liberals such as Nina before she got ejected from her own tribe. His latest, Killing America, connects the demise of honors classes and other merit incentives in US schools, with the rise of “liberation ideologies,” antisemitism, and the erasure of history. We discuss The Age of White Guilt by Eli’s father, Shelby Steele; feminism; indulgences; fraudulent copyright claims; Hamas; Israel; sandworms; alternative film distribution; and Jews on Pluto. Born profoundly deaf, Steele has a “deaf accent” that may require extra attention to understand, but his ideas are unusually clear.Links:What killed Michael Brown: https://whatkilledmichaelbrown.com/Killing America: https://x.com/Hebro_Steele/status/1776396571699294718?lang=enThe Age of White Guilt: https://blog.ninapaley.com/2019/08/18/the-age-of-white-guilt-and-the-disappearance-of-the-black-individual-by-shelby-steele/Sita Sings the Blues: https://www.sitasingstheblues.com/watch.htmlMan of Steele Productions: https://www.manofsteeleproductions.com/Internet Archive: https://archive.org/--- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/heterodorx/support Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

May 27, 2024 • 1h 25min
Palestinian Heterodoxy with John Aziz
British-Palestinian writer and analyst John Aziz joins the Dorx to repeat his wacky, out-there thesis: Israelis are not going anywhere, Palestinians are not going anywhere, both groups have legitimate claims to the land, and both must forge a realistic future of peace. This is unfortunately controversial. Aziz emphasizes Israel is not Vietnam or Afghanistan; offers a definition of Zionism; critiques Israel’s military actions; asserts violent video games can reduce street violence; and is gratifyingly impressed to learn Nina made the animated musical short This Land Is Mine. Plus tunnels, elevated highways, October 7th, Hamas, social contagion, identical tents, antisemitism, two goats on a land bridge, and more! Links: John Aziz on Twitter: https://x.com/aziz0nomicsAndy the Antizionist Heterodorx episode: https://www.heterodorx.com/podcast/episode-115-ask-an-anti-zionist-with-andy-the-anti-zionist/--- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/heterodorx/support Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

May 10, 2024 • 1h 35min
Is Brianna Wu Based? Part Two
Is the video game developer, computer programmer, GamerGate veteran, and aspiring politician “based” for recent statements against antisemitism? To find out, the Dorx invited Wu for an interview that lasted 2-and-a-half hours and is therefore broken into two parts.PART TWO:An increasingly contentious discussion of Jesse Singal, journalistic standards, changing sex, allies, public policies that are cruel to trans people, identity, dehumanization, tolerance, prejudice, the N-word, swastika flags, fringe opinions, cognitive dissonance, cancellation, and the value of trans experience. It’s a long listen, but we think this episode gives a definitive answer to the title question.--- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/heterodorx/support Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

May 10, 2024 • 57min
Is Brianna Wu Based? Part One
Is the video game developer, computer programmer, GamerGate veteran, and aspiring politician “based” for recent statements against antisemitism? To find out, the Dorx invited Wu for an interview that lasted 2-and-a-half hours and is therefore broken into two parts.PART ONE:A friendly conversation about eyebrows, makeup, Zionism, antisemitism, GamerGate, WPATH standards, trans civil rights, binary vs. nonbinary, philosophical questions, the TERF-Tranny Alliance, JK Rowling, holocaust denial, India Willoughby, illiberalism, Media Matters, and the Harry S Benjamin Standards of Care.--- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/heterodorx/support Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

May 6, 2024 • 49min
Butching It Up with Nina and Corinna
It would take a butcher to butch up Corinna enough to satisfy those clamoring for his detransition. Fresh from the UnSpeakeasy retreat in Louisville, the Dorx also discuss the Kohein priestly caste, street work, rimshots, shock collars, and Pronoun Ripple ice cream. Is Cori a homunculus dressed in a woman suit? How many cavities does he have? Does wearing lumberjack clothes make you a lumberjack? Can we achieve peace in the Middle East by blocking traffic in the US? Listen to this exceptionally casual episode to find out the answers, most of which are “no”.Links:The Lumberjack Song: https://youtu.be/FshU58nI0Ts?si=vVwQniymDpk_udP4The UnSpeakeasy: https://www.theunspeakeasy.com/retreatsBelissa Cohen on Corinna Cohn: https://twitter.com/search?q=%22Corinna%22%20(from%3ABelissaCohen)&src=typed_query&f=liveCamp Trans: https://afterellen.com/setting-the-record-straight-about-michfest/Urbana IL citizens push for city resolution for ceasefire in Palestine: https://www.news-gazette.com/news/after-70-speakers-are-heard-from-urbana-aldermen-pass-revised-gaza-resolution-receive-standing-ovation/article_ad04334c-f8fe-567f-a038-04aa53cdfbc7.htmlThis Land Is Mine: https://youtu.be/8tIdCsMufIY?si=SgipauO73mibAzKZSeder-Masochism: https://sedermasochism.com/download/Gender and Nina’s local bike club: https://blog.ninapaley.com/2022/03/21/cycling-and-gender-intersect-in-meaningful-ways/The Milgram Experiment: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experimentAaaron Kimberly, Alice Dreger, Alex Byrne, Holly Lawford-Smith debate: Is Sex Binary? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PoT_ayxjXpg&ab_channel=MITFreeSpeechAllianceFor more information about RISE on The Land for WOMEN, email Char at riseontheland2020s@gmail.com--- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/heterodorx/support Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

Apr 29, 2024 • 1h 24min
A Light Unto the School Districts with Dr. Tabia Lee
What happens when an inquisitive, naturally hopeful, critical-thinking civics-oriented teacher educator gets a position in an Office of Equity, Social Justice, and Multicultural Education? She gets fired for not being "the right kind of Black person", and then speaks out about it while developing better alternatives for schools. Dr. tabia lee joins the Dorx to discuss travel, authenticity, finding pride in America, critical Social Justice, racial affinity groups, “white oppressors,” DEI gangsters, infighting, bad journalism, calling in vs. calling out, emotional reasoning, pronouns, sparklefun, purple hair, and living in a dystopian science-fiction timeline. Listeners will also be treated to optimism, good humor, and multiple Hollywood-style false endings!Links:Tabia Lee on Twitter: https://twitter.com/11Drtlee11DEI College Director Fired for Not Being ‘Right Kind of Black Person’: https://www.newsweek.com/dei-college-director-fired-not-being-right-kind-black-person-1813481Free Black Thought: https://freeblackthought.com/voices/dr-tabia-leeDo No Harm: https://donoharmmedicine.org/Dr. t lee Educational Consultancy: http://www.drtlee.solutions/services.htmlCoalition for Empowered Education: https://empowered-ed.org/about-us/Paolo Freire: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paulo_FreireELIZA: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ELIZAFor more information about RISE on The Land for WOMEN, email Char at riseontheland2020s@gmail.com--- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/heterodorx/support Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

Apr 18, 2024 • 1h 15min
California Nightmares with Beth Bourne
Beth Bourne is a lifelong Democrat, mother of an estranged trans-identified daughter, and model of courage in the belly of the beast that is the Golden State. After years of receiving slow and inattentive medical service, she told Kaiser Permanente she identified as non-binary and suddenly had speedy access to attention, validation, and any “gender-affirming care” their zealous trans-identified doctors could dream up: cross-sex hormones, double mastectomy, nipple grafts, body contouring, total hysterectomy, phalloplasty, and more! All at rock-bottom co-pays and fast-tracked by cooperative “therapists.” It’s the stuff of nightmares, and that’s before getting into her loss of friends, demonization by the local press, and a restraining order from her kid’s school. From Davis to Redwood City to trans/human-trafficker "sanctuary city” Sacramento, Beth’s story is as inspiring as it is harrowing.Links:“I Pretended to be ‘Nonbinary’ To Expose A Medical Scandal at Kaiser Permanente”: https://www.realityslaststand.com/p/i-pretended-to-be-nonbinary-to-exposeBeth Bourne on Twitter: https://twitter.com/bourne_beth2345DIAG: Democrats for an Informed Approach to Gender: https://www.di-ag.org/Moms for Liberty: https://www.momsforliberty.org/For more information about RISE on The Land for WOMEN, email Char at riseontheland2020s@gmail.com--- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/heterodorx/support Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe