
Heterodorx
“Based TERF and Tranny” Nina Paley and Cori Cohn talk about gender — and anything else they find interesting and/or horrifying — with warmth, sarcasm, respect, cutting intelligence, more sarcasm, and disarming honesty. heterodorx.substack.com
Latest episodes

Jun 7, 2021 • 40min
True Trans, Good Trans, TRUSCUM, Authentic Trans, Imitation Crab, and Basketballs
The sarcasm flows like California wine as Nina and Corinna tilt their heads and discuss what the heck “true trans” might mean. On the subject of “passing,” Nina forgets to mention this quote, often attributed to PT Barnum, that sums up her position: "You can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time." Then, in a dazzling display of creativity, the Dorx think of an improved Inclusive Flag that can be incorporated into fashionable shirts, and conceive a Charlotte Clymer Memorial statue. Nina looks forward to attending an upcoming women’s-only gathering in Michigan, while Corinna recalls having dined with not one but two future murderers, both of whom just happened to be…Californian.Dana Rivers: https://www.karadansky.com/state-v-dana-rivers-updatesThe Californians: https://youtu.be/dCer2e0t8r8--- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/heterodorx/support Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

Jun 1, 2021 • 43min
Serious Sixty and Sarcasmagoria
In this special episode (they’re ALL special! And valid!) the opening Heterodorx theme song is sung by Corinna, who unwittingly promotes a new LGBT breakfast cereal before discussing a recent episode of 60 Minutes that invoked the fury of Kellogg’s partner GLAAD (along with the ACLU, HRC, and other Men’s Rights activists). Nina cries herself to sleep over Corinna’s tragic and pathetic life; Corinna identifies as an Aquarius while Nina is Astro-nonconforming; and the Dorx are stumped by a puzzling question on Corinna’s tennis lesson application.60 Minutes “State Bills Would Curtail Health Care For Transgender Youth”: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/transgender-health-care-60-minutes-2021-05-23/Corinna on Femsplainers (second half): https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/when-sons-become-daughters-part-one/id1366430955?i=1000522118038GCCAN: https://www.gccan.org/--- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/heterodorx/support Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

May 24, 2021 • 52min
A Black Band-Aid for White Guilt with Chris Waites
Chris Waites is an Amateur Open-Mic Comedian, professional Grocery Shelf-Stocker, mild-mannered provocateur, and self-described “Nobody”. After sorting out Chris’s pronouns, the Dorx discuss BANDAIDGATE. Are “regular” Band-Aids “white”? Are “black” Band-Aids “black”? Are any humans the same color as Band-Aids? What happens when a black man questions the wisdom of chocolate band-aids on fecebook? Nina suggests “fitting in” is a neoliberal Capitalist plot, while Chris learns he is "privileged" to not have to think about race constantly, unlike his long-suffering liberal white allies. The Dorx also discuss how people suppress their individuality within tribes; the difference between allies and friends; “Golem-ing”; getting drunk on White Guilt; and Corinna’s Black Power Fist facial tattoo.BandAidGate: https://www.facebook.com/nina.paley/posts/10159803364887642Square Pegs theme song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldkNnT1SuvEThe Age of White Guilt by Shelby Steele: https://blog.ninapaley.com/2019/08/18/the-age-of-white-guilt-and-the-disappearance-of-the-black-individual-by-shelby-steele/--- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/heterodorx/support Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

May 17, 2021 • 46min
The Dorx Don't Save The World
Our more-or-less Jewish hosts share their sub-optimally-informed opinions about conflict in the Middle East. Perhaps the colonization of Palestine could be resisted by misgendering Israelis? But first, Corinna talks about why Ellen DeGeneres doesn’t belong in Hollywood. Later, Corinna plugs Target’s new queer-branded product line, and threatens to buy Nina an “ALLY” t-shirt. Corinna is propositioned in Corinna’s ‘hood (notice how I’m avoiding pronouns here? awkward!), and donates to Nina’s MysicSymbolic project by mistaking it for a transition fund. Throughout, the Dorx’s extreme and relentless sarcasm makes much of the discussion incomprehensible to anyone but them. Enjoy!links:This Land Is Mine: https://vimeo.com/50531435MysticSymbolic crowdfunder: https://www.gofundme.com/f/mysticsymbolic-developmentAndrea Dworkin on the Sexual Revolution: https://blog.ninapaley.com/2019/08/23/andrea-dworkin-on-the-sexual-revolution/--- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/heterodorx/support Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

May 10, 2021 • 1h 8min
Metamodernism with Greg Dember
Metamodernism is a response to Postmodernism, which is a response to Modernism, which is a response to Traditionalism. The Dorx discuss that and more with Greg Dember, one of Metamodernism’s leading experts. Nina wants to know if her movies Sita Sings the Blues and Seder-Masochism are metamodern, and Greg obliges with an answer! (Spoiler: yes.) After Nina compares metamodernist media to porn, using the metaphor of “the money shot,” Greg suggests she might have her very own episteme. Corinna identifies as post-postmodernist, which is another way to say 'irredeemably sarcastic'. In spite of the Dorx’s cynicism (postmodern) and their guest’s optimism (metamodern), they enjoy a fun, fruitful, intellectual conversation, and conclude, “identity is the metamodern problem.”https://whatismetamodern.com--- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/heterodorx/support Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

May 3, 2021 • 35min
With Allies Like These, Who Needs Axes?
This lighthearted, rollicking episode opens with Nina posting Corinna’s rant “Against Allies” (from last week’s episode) on fecebook, to the chagrin of some “allies”. (The next day, Nina gets a 24-hour fecebook ban for “hate speech.”) Then Nina and Corinna discuss the political indoctrination, or lack thereof, of their respective childhoods. They go on to cover how advocacy groups reduce diversity, the discovery of a “third race,” the retraction of Richard Dawkins’ decades-old Humanist award, the idolization of the Gender Unicorn, and whether “It’s Always OK to Ask Someone Their Gender Pronouns!” Finally, they segue into “Meta-Modernism,” the topic of next week’s episode. Fun!Four Arguments For The Elimination of Television by Jerry Mander: http://www.nelligennet.com/televisionjerrymander.pdf--- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/heterodorx/support Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

Apr 26, 2021 • 22min
Against Allies
This week's mercifully short episode opens with both Nina and Corinna exhausted from dealing with Internet b******t. Corinna talks about being drawn into the manipulative abuse of a transphobic gay man on Clubhouse. Nina reminisces about an organization that used to exist to help poor women have access to reproductive health resources. In between, Corinna goes on a magnificent rant against "allies," which should be bronzed for posterity. If you listen to only 2 minutes of Heterodorx, start at 08:00 of this episode.--- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/heterodorx/support Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

Apr 19, 2021 • 47min
Dorking Out With Jayson Graham
Note: This special episode is presented principally in the Russian language. This week Nina and Corinna talk with Corinna’s old friend, Jayson Graham. We talk about the process of marketing creative works, the role copyright may (or may not) play in establishing one’s marketability, and whether or not social media might be destroying America.The M. Jayson Graham Show https://anchor.fm/m-jayson-graham-show/--- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/heterodorx/support Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

Apr 12, 2021 • 60min
Kickin’ it Old-Skool with Miranda F@%#*&g Yardley
Corinna and Nina enjoy a delightful conversation with stunning and brave intelligent and funny transsexual Miranda Yardley, author of such memorable bons mots as, "lighten up trannies, this used to be fun" and "a quick note on pronouns: I don't give a s**t." While Miranda and Corinna recall alarming changes in the trans community over recent decades, Nina sadistically oppresses both of them with her cishet privilege. Joking aside, Miranda has been the target of some extreme b******t, online and more importantly in the English courts, and shares some war stories here.Miranda's blog: https://mirandayardley.com/en/Nina's 1997 appearance (as "Grace,"with the Church of Euthenasia) on Jerry Springer: https://vimeo.com/manage/videos/235654079--- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/heterodorx/support Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

Apr 3, 2021 • 39min
Anger Management for Online Stupidity
Nina discusses how she manages rage with the heat of a thousand suns triggered by Internet b******t she shouldn’t care that much about. Corinna confesses to some high-running emotions after an encounter with b******t on the new app Clubhouse. At 27:35 Nina mis-sexes a male who is definitely not a pedophile, and at 32:00 she goes on an important rant against coerced pronouns. Finally, she declares a new identity as a CERC (pronounced “curse”).Graham Linehan’s substack: https://grahamlinehan.substack.com/Nina’s argument tweets: https://spinster.xyz/@ninapaley/posts/A5jcIonm22fqw6apVo--- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/heterodorx/support Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe