
Heterodorx
“Based TERF and Tranny” Nina Paley and Cori Cohn talk about gender — and anything else they find interesting and/or horrifying — with warmth, sarcasm, respect, cutting intelligence, more sarcasm, and disarming honesty. heterodorx.substack.com
Latest episodes

Mar 23, 2022 • 57min
Cynthia Breheny Literally Erases by Drawing
The Dorx chat with Cynthia Breheny, a sexist, racist, and transphobic artist who perverts free speech and art as a means to hurt people. OR DOES SHE?? Perhaps she’s a sweet, young, unusually moderate illustrator with her own interesting history of gender dysphoria and heterodox gender-diverse friends. Nina, as Elder Artist and TERF, imparts her aged wisdom upon the young’un, while Corinna is unafraid to face accusations of “erasing” kinky toddlers. Is there hope for the future? Maybe!Cynthia Breheny of Twitter: https://twitter.com/PTElephantWebsite: https://www.ptelephant.com/--- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/heterodorx/support Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

Mar 17, 2022 • 1h 5min
MK Fain Wants to Keep Fighting
Corinna and Nina welcome back MK Fain, creator of women's social network Spinster.xyz and online feminist news publication 4w.pub. Life has dished out some tough lessons in the intervening 10 months, and Fain is a fast learner. She shares newfound wisdom about having a life outside “the Movement,” purity spirals, Truth mills, scapegoating, infighting, fracturing, and cults. After resolving not to join anything in 2022, Fain becomes the newest member of the TERF-Tranny Alliance, and Nina looks forward to Death. Then the Dorx get philosophical about the difference between oppressors and leaders, the nature of human hierarchies, telling the truth as well as questioning it, writer’s block, and spaying and neutering our pets — and ourselves. Somehow all this inspires Fain to continue her fight for justice; maybe she'll inspire you too.--- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/heterodorx/support Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

Mar 7, 2022 • 49min
Bully-Proofing the Grown-ups with Stella O’Malley
After Nina goes on about copyright abolition again, our delightful guest discusses her new book, Bully-Proof Kids (© Stella O’Malley 2022). All the adults in this conversation have been - and are currently being - bullied by other adults; will techniques for kids and families work for us too? The power to make or break bullies is in the hands of bystanders, whom O’Malley urges to become upstanders. Nina and Corinna are cynical as ever, and at one point the Dorx sound like mental patients arguing with their therapist. Did we mention O’Malley is a therapist? She’s got her work cut out for her, in this episode and beyond!Bully-Proof Kids: http://www.stellaomalley.com/bullyproof-kidsThe TERF-Tranny Alliance: https://www.heterodorx.com/terftrannyalliance/--- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/heterodorx/support Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

Feb 17, 2022 • 45min
Tokens of the Apocalypse
Corinna surprises Nina with a spontaneous “Fresh Air”-style interview about Apocalypse Animated, her just-completed project. They discuss hairy Semites, the W***e of Babylon, vaginal symbolism of the New Jerusalem, depicting fire, tesseracts, a cute Lamb, galloping horses, and Corinna’s new career as an activist. Corinna has now testified twice in favor of Indiana House Bill 1041, which seeks to prohibit boys from girls’ school athletics teams. Does Corinna’s voice carry more authority as a transsexual? Unfortunately yes, because even though we all know tokenism is unfair and wrong, it is the coin of the identity politics realm.Indiana House Bill 1041: http://iga.in.gov/legislative/2022/bills/house/1041Corinna’s first testimony: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CZDobmmiNlgApocalypse Animated: https://apocalypseanimated.com/Muybridge horse quilt: https://blog.ninapaley.com/2015/04/29/horse-quiltimation/Theo’s Entrepreneurial Research & Fabrication Space: https://www.palegraylabs.com/NO TERFS: https://spinster.xyz/@ninapaley/posts/AGR6XS3UEkgHtJ2VbE--- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/heterodorx/support Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

Feb 9, 2022 • 1h 47min
True Faith with Aaron Rabinowitz
Aaron Rabinowitz identifies as an atheist, skeptic, and philosopher. He’s also a faithful trans ally, and considers the adjective “religious” an insult. Acutely aware of his cisheteronormative privilege, he willingly sacrifices himself on the altar of Heterodorx because “my humanity is not being questioned in this particular debate.” The resultant conversation is even more fascinating than it is long (1:46, our longest yet!). Listen closely and you just might have a religious experience.Embrace the Void podcast: https://voidpod.com/podcastsPhilosophers in Space podcast: https://0gphilosophy.libsyn.com/Aaron Rabinowitz at The Skeptic: https://www.skeptic.org.uk/author/aaronrabinowitz/I Enjoy Being a Girl: https://youtu.be/iEW_nXwWvd4--- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/heterodorx/support Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

Feb 6, 2022 • 1h 6min
Cancel Klatch with Razib Khan
Razib Khan, a Bangladeshi-American writer in population genetics, dives into erasing identities, recounts E.O. Wilson's tale, and struggles to define 'woman' on a witty episode. The discussion explores cancel culture, integrity, gender identity, societal perceptions, stereotypes, selling out ideological beliefs, and online behavior. The banter includes Bill Clinton's preferences, nerdy culture references, and future podcast plans.

Jan 31, 2022 • 1h 10min
Upperhand Mars and Team TERF’s Moving Goalposts
Trans YouTuber, media manager of Gender Dysphoria Alliance, and eminent voice of reason Mars F has long been a target of more extreme trans rights activists; now Mars is also receiving abuse from "the other side." “Transmen are our sisters” is an old TERF saying, but some aren’t acting very sisterly today. Mars also shares some cringey transition delusions from more naive times; a personal account of testosterone’s health consequences; and the secret of looking young (“don’t stay up late and don’t do crack”). Relax and enjoy the soothing sound of reasonable people talking reasonably.Mars’s Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCK792gI7-zEik0tB1Ok0l6QMars on Twitter: https://twitter.com/UpperhandMarsGender Dysphoria Alliance: https://www.genderdysphoriaalliance.com/--- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/heterodorx/support Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

Jan 27, 2022 • 1h 33min
Carole Hooven
The Dorx enjoy a lively and information-packed conversation with Dr. Carole Hooven, author of T: The Story of Testosterone, the Hormone that Dominates and Divides Us. Curious and compassionate, she expresses grief that Corinna never got a chance to f**k his brains out with other boys. Nina is full of questions: can females have Complete Androgen Insensitivity? What happens to ovaries in menopause? How do you define woman? Hooven wants to know what made Nina “peak trans,” so Nina briefly recounts her TERFening in 2017-2018. Corinna, who needs to eat more carbs and put on some body fat because endogenous sex steroid production relies on cholesterol, shares some thoughts on non-binary identities, after which the conversation culminates in how awesome Heterodorx is. This episode is guaranteed to make you smarter!http://www.carolehooven.com/https://twitter.com/hoovlet/https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250236067/tthestoryoftestosteronethehormonethatdominatesanddividesus--- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/heterodorx/support Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

Jan 19, 2022 • 58min
GAMPs, Pr0n, trans, and the Conservation of Evil
After Nina expresses admiration for the insult “Haterodorx”, Corinna - “one of the good ones” - expresses concern about the inevitable backlash coming for trans people. We learn about GAMPs: GynoAndroMorphPhiles, and the “chicks with dicks” they fetishize. Corinna makes Nina watch some horrible TikTok videos so they can discuss young people sexualizing themselves for visual consumption. Then the Dorx examine porn’s influence on the “trans community” and young people in general, staying remarkably lighthearted in spite of the dismal subject matter. This episode 100% passes!Song: “Penis Envy” by Uncle Bonsai: https://youtu.be/ByE5Bc70w44Heterodorx (aka Corinna) on Twitter: https://twitter.com/heterodorx--- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/heterodorx/support Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

Jan 1, 2022 • 53min
The Heterodorx 2021 Year in Review
The Dorx take a trip down memory lane, scanning the show notes of every single episode straight from the web site, and wondering in awe at this podcast’s dazzling journey from three to sixteen listeners in under a year. Thanks for listening to and supporting us, TERFs and Trannies, and have a great 2022!--- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/heterodorx/support Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe