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The Dorx discuss Robin/Robert Westman, the psychotic Minneapolis Catholic school shooter. Was he left-wing or right-wing? Does trans ideology cause psychosis, or is it just coincidental? What is the difference between racism and white nationalism? Do women owe the world reproductive labor? What might happen to Cori as the political wrecking-ball pendulum keeps swinging rightward? Was the Unicorn Ranch llamas or alpacas? Plus: Cori insists trannies are a class but TERFs are not, because he doesn’t get intersectionality. Why didn’t we just talk about kittens?Links:Robert/Robin Westman: https://www.thetimes.com/us/news-today/article/robert-westman-trans-name-change-manifesto-mary-family-bfhps6kkfWestman’s Manifesto transcription: https://x.com/FrancisAaronUK/status/1961085415445660009Westman journal excerpt about racism, Native Americans: https://x.com/FrancisAaronUK/status/1961149304053125196Matt Walsh says women owe children to the world: https://x.com/MattWalshBlog/status/1951280351784907005Christopher Rufo: “we should now put to rest the libertarian delusion…” https://x.com/realchrisrufo/status/1960769904258469938Free Press: Robin Westman and the Rise of American Nihilism: https://www.thefp.com/p/robin-westman-and-the-rise-of-american-nihilism-minneapolis-shootingUnicorn Ranch: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenacious_Unicorn_RanchAgents of HAG & Compliance Comix: https://store.ninapaley.com/product/compliance-comix/Protect Trans Kids weapons tshirt: https://www.amazon.com/Protect-Trans-Knife-Pride-T-Shirt/dp/B0BZBHJ4TQconfirmation bias: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_biasAndrea James website: https://www.transgendermap.com/Knife-wielding Scottish lassWDI Convention: https://womensdeclarationusa.com/wdi-usa-2025-national-convention/The Naked Gun: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3402138/ Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

You may recognize Katie Herzog’s journalism and podcasting, but did you also know she’s soon-to-be famous for her alcoholism? For years she hid it from the world and her exceptionally gullible wife, but now she tells all in a new book which even longtime twelve-stepper Nina finds persuasive. Can you quit booze while happily retaining your character defects? What is Naltrexone? Does everyone get a “buzz” from drinking? Does Nina get pleasure from anything? Plus: amusing recollections of drunken episodes and blackouts, getting older and more isolated, extinguishing desires, AA vs. Al-Anon, Kokomo, Kokomo, why you should never apologize, and tips on how to hide both drinking and smoking from your spouse!Links:Drink Your Way Sober by Katie Herzog: https://www.drinkyourwaysober.com/The Sinclair Method: https://www.sinclairmethod.org/what-is-the-sinclair-method-2/Syn-Anon documentary: https://www.hbomax.com/shows/synanon-fix/a27b5e0a-68eb-48e2-baa6-2b0f01d5b8be Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

Dive into a wild conversation featuring the absurdity of online shopping and quirky pet anecdotes. Explore the philosophical musings on existence and whether reality is shaped by perception. There's a humorous debate on the merits of different animation frame rates and a nostalgic trip through pop culture references like Spaceballs and Star Trek. The hosts tackle timely topics including the nature of gender identity, the significance of informal attire for Michigan weather, and the intricacies of human existence—all peppered with laughs and heartfelt moments.

Cori returns from San Francisco with brief tales of the Endocrine Society before launching into crazy population projections (AGAIN) and then making some rather provocative arguments. What are Human Rights? Can children consent to irreversible decisions? Is the individual the most important unit of society? Are women never competent? Has Cori been wearing Nina down for an hour and a half, or just an hour? Despite still grieving her cat, Nina does a good job arguing right back and the resulting debate is actually pretty good.Links:SF TERF Central: https://x.com/sf_terf_centralEndocrine Society conference in San Francisco: https://www.endocrine.org/meetings-and-events/endo-2025The Female Eunuch by Germaine Greer: https://seminariolecturasfeministas.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/germaine-greer-the-female-eunuch.pdfSelf-fertilizing plants: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-pollinationMating In Captivity by Esther Perel: https://www.harpercollins.com/products/mating-in-captivity-esther-perel?variant=41231555362850Human Rights: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_rightsThe Center for Individual Rights: https://cir-usa.org/The Age of White Guilt by Shelby Steele: https://cir-usa.org/2002/11/the-age-of-white-guilt-and-the-disappearance-of-the-black-individual/Nina’s SSDI Blue Book project (on hold for biking season): https://ninapaley.com/2025/05/31/illustrating-the-ssdi-blue-book/R.I.P. Nina’s cat Lola: https://ninapaley.com/2025/07/10/rest-in-peace-sweet-lola/ Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

Cori speaks at the European Society for Child & Adolescent Psychiatry conference, then returns home to find degenerates everywhere. Meanwhile, Nina’s beloved cat dies. Cori calls out a “Protect the Dolls” campaign; Nina’s lungs improve. Cori has to clean up human feces in his yard; Nina wears a dress. Cori gets into pronatalism and blames Nina for western collapse; Nina sighs. Plus: pain au chocolat, lazy consonants, TSA shoes, cannabinoids, sanitariums, and yelling at clouds.Links:European Society for Child & Adolescent Psychiatry in Strasbourg https://www.escap.eu/events/escap-2025-congress-in-strasbourgPain au Chocolat: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pain_au_chocolatTSA shoes: https://www.fox13memphis.com/news/travelers-will-no-longer-have-to-remove-their-shoes-for-tsa/article_c53fe231-d918-40e5-aa53-b7f0084e51ce.htmlOutCare - Protect the Dolls: https://mailchi.mp/outcarehealth/september-outtalk-6420697Dustin Nowaskie: https://www.outcarehealth.org/staff/dustin-nowaskie/Art Bell: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_BellFTC Hearing: The Dangers of “Gender-Affirming Care” for Minors: https://www.ftc.gov/media/dangers-gender-affirming-care-minors?s=08 Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

On June 18 the Supreme Court of the United States ruled on US v. Skrmetti, deciding whether a Tennessee law prohibiting certain medical interventions on youngsters violates the equal protection clause of the 14th amendment. The Hon. Elspeth Cypher (ret.) a.k.a. Judge TERF joins the Dorx to dissect the case, the decision, the concurrences, and the dissents. Which concurrence is best, Thomas’s or Barrett’s? Does Justice Sotomayor suffer from pathological empathy? If Skrmetti were a pasta, what type of sauce would be best on it? Plus Nina mis-sexes Chase Strangio (whoops!), Cori’s gender is Jewish, and Judge TERF solves the crisis in the Middle East.Links:US v. Skrmetti Decision, June 18 2025: https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/24pdf/23-477_2cp3.pdfJudging US v Skrmetti with Judge TERF, December 2024: https://heterodorx.substack.com/p/judging-us-v-skrmetti-with-judge-891Cori posts on Thomas’ concurrence: https://x.com/heterodorx/status/1935380685490880949JD Vance tweets a screenshot of a post on Bluesky reposting Cori’s screenshot from Twitter (what?): https://x.com/JDVance/status/1935457852082016556How The Transgender Rights Movement Bet On The Supreme Court and Lost by Nicholas Confessore (NYT): https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/19/magazine/scotus-transgender-care-tennessee-skrmetti.html?unlocked_article_code=1.QE8.JUql.PEoYV35S-FVz&smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShareOur episode on NYT podcast The Protocol: https://heterodorx.substack.com/p/episode-171-poop-and-protocolGlenna Goldis Bad Facts: https://badfacts.substack.com/Ilya Shapiro - Lawless: https://manhattan.institute/book/lawless-the-miseducation-of-americas-elitesWoLF: https://womensliberationfront.org/ Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

How old is Cori? Will the NYT podcast The Protocol change minds? Is there any competence in the Trump administration? Why is Nina’s cat pooping on the floor? These questions and more are asked, but not entirely answered, as we move in and out of the fetal position, name-drop various GC power players, and read aloud comments from another podcast’s subreddit.Important note: Cori is COMPLETELY WRONG about last week’s timeline: Nina wrote about her cat 2 days after we recorded last time. Is his muddled thinking a symptom of estrogen withdrawal, or turning 50? SO MANY QUESTIONSLinks:Pussy Whipped (Nina’s blog): https://blog.ninapaley.com/2025/06/07/pussy-whipped/Informed Dissent analysis of The Protocol: Part 1 Part 2: Missing from NYT's podcast THE PROTOCOL (Glenna Goldis on X): https://x.com/glennagoldis/status/1930969733748113531Elliot Page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elliot_PageKinnon MacKinnon https://www.yorku.ca/positivechange/2022/06/24/kinnon-mackinnon/Dude Looks Like A Lady (Aerosmith):The comments we read from the Blocked & reported subReddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/BlockedAndReported/comments/1l1971t/comment/mwmctet/Credit Is Due (The Attribution Song): Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

The Young Generation (Cori) reaches out to the Old Generation (Nina) and exhibits patience while pretending to listen to geezer tales of things that go wrong with body parts and the SSDI Blue Book. Then we get into the hip, happenin’, swingin’ NOW with the latest news on gay martyrs, fake martyrs, and trans martyrs. Nina consents to Cori’s exposition on immigration, and somehow gets stuck comparing illiberal policy to her Junior High school cafeteria. Plus: tribal identities, Cori’s synagogue, lenses, spicy food, organ recitals, Title VII, cooling sheets, and a surprisingly out-of-character bathroom joke.Cori and Nina may not be equals, but they are co-hosts, which is about as close as we can get in this life.LinksSSDI Blue Book: https://www.ssa.gov/disability/professionals/bluebook/AdultListings.htmhttps://blog.ninapaley.com/2025/05/31/illustrating-the-ssdi-blue-book/Jonathan Joss: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/jonathan-joss-killing-police-records-neighbor-dispute-rcna210670Matthew Shepard: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/26/the-truth-behind-americas-most-famous-gay-hate-murder-matthew-shepard Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

Cori is almost 50, and Nina is 57 going on 80. We discuss bronchiectasis, health hazards, witchcraft, hypertonic saline, nebulizers, oxygen monitors, IQ tests, lifesaving gender-denying healthcare, pulmonology, and being a delicate flower. Cori gives a speech, doesn’t quit his job, and asks: at what age did we become adults? Why was he kicked out of his mom’s house at age 17? How do you pronounce ‘syncytial’? Covid may have taken decades off Nina’s life, but this episode will take less than an hour off yours.Links:Cori’s speech: https://x.com/heterodorx/status/1920583202114027686Respiratory syncytial virus (RSV): https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/respiratory-syncytial-virus/symptoms-causes/syc-20353098Nina’s illness art: https://blog.ninapaley.com/category/crohns/Maryn Cadell - The Pope Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

After several conversations about antidepressants, the Dorx welcome back pediatrician Dr. Julia Mason, who prescribes Selective Seretonin Reuptake Inhibitors (SSRIs) to young people. Do we even know what these drugs do to developing brains? How do antidepressants compare with “gender-affirming care”? Does Barlean’s Fish Oil really taste like lemon custard? We also talk about myelnation, the distress of youth, the parasympathetic nervous system, neurotransmitters, immunosuppression, social costs and benefits of treatments, wildly swinging trends in medicine, unintended consequences, public schools, and the over-diagnoses of Attention-Deficit/Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD). Medical institutions have a lot to answer for, but at least we have Nampons for nosebleeds.Links:Nampons: https://nampons.com/SEGM: https://segm.org/about_usFeminist blogger with Crohn’s Disease: https://cannabisrefugeeesq.wordpress.com/2018/03/27/cannabis-refugee-esq/Nina on Prozac: https://blog.ninapaley.com/2025/02/08/back-on-zac/myelination: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MyelinationBarlean’s Fish Oil https://www.barleans.com/collections/fish-oils/products/seriously-delicious-omega-3-fish-oil-lemon-cremeListening to Prozac: https://www.peterdkramer.com/new-pageThe Noonday Demon: https://andrewsolomon.com/books/the-noonday-demon/Xeno’s Paradox: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeno%27s_paradoxes#Dichotomy_paradoxJulia Mason on the Chain of Trust in Medicine:Hunter in a Farmer’s World by Thom Hartmann: https://www.hunterinafarmersworld.com/NYT: Have We Been Thinking About ADHD All Wrong? https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/13/magazine/adhd-medication-treatment-research.html?campaign_id=9&emc=edit_nn_20250413&instance_id=152482&nl=the-morning&regi_id=58030095&segment_id=195907&user_id=a173f8835e89df3e22af711782032be9Jamie Reed also recommends Nampons: https://x.com/JamieWhistleOur 2023 Julia Mason interview: https://www.heterodorx.com/podcast/episode-105-pediatric-disenchantment-with-julia-mason-md/ Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe