Heterodorx

Cori is almost 50, and Nina is 57 going on 80. We discuss bronchiectasis, health hazards, witchcraft, hypertonic saline, nebulizers, oxygen monitors, IQ tests, lifesaving gender-denying healthcare, pulmonology, and being a delicate flower. Cori gives a speech, doesn’t quit his job, and asks: at what age did we become adults? Why was he kicked out of his mom’s house at age 17? How do you pronounce ‘syncytial’? Covid may have taken decades off Nina’s life, but this episode will take less than an hour off yours.Links:Cori’s speech: https://x.com/heterodorx/status/1920583202114027686Respiratory syncytial virus (RSV): https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/respiratory-syncytial-virus/symptoms-causes/syc-20353098Nina’s illness art: https://blog.ninapaley.com/category/crohns/Maryn Cadell - The Pope Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

After several conversations about antidepressants, the Dorx welcome back pediatrician Dr. Julia Mason, who prescribes Selective Seretonin Reuptake Inhibitors (SSRIs) to young people. Do we even know what these drugs do to developing brains? How do antidepressants compare with “gender-affirming care”? Does Barlean’s Fish Oil really taste like lemon custard? We also talk about myelnation, the distress of youth, the parasympathetic nervous system, neurotransmitters, immunosuppression, social costs and benefits of treatments, wildly swinging trends in medicine, unintended consequences, public schools, and the over-diagnoses of Attention-Deficit/Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD). Medical institutions have a lot to answer for, but at least we have Nampons for nosebleeds.Links:Nampons: https://nampons.com/SEGM: https://segm.org/about_usFeminist blogger with Crohn’s Disease: https://cannabisrefugeeesq.wordpress.com/2018/03/27/cannabis-refugee-esq/Nina on Prozac: https://blog.ninapaley.com/2025/02/08/back-on-zac/myelination: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MyelinationBarlean’s Fish Oil https://www.barleans.com/collections/fish-oils/products/seriously-delicious-omega-3-fish-oil-lemon-cremeListening to Prozac: https://www.peterdkramer.com/new-pageThe Noonday Demon: https://andrewsolomon.com/books/the-noonday-demon/Xeno’s Paradox: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeno%27s_paradoxes#Dichotomy_paradoxJulia Mason on the Chain of Trust in Medicine:Hunter in a Farmer’s World by Thom Hartmann: https://www.hunterinafarmersworld.com/NYT: Have We Been Thinking About ADHD All Wrong? https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/13/magazine/adhd-medication-treatment-research.html?campaign_id=9&emc=edit_nn_20250413&instance_id=152482&nl=the-morning&regi_id=58030095&segment_id=195907&user_id=a173f8835e89df3e22af711782032be9Jamie Reed also recommends Nampons: https://x.com/JamieWhistleOur 2023 Julia Mason interview: https://www.heterodorx.com/podcast/episode-105-pediatric-disenchantment-with-julia-mason-md/ Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

Cori is a hard-working corporate employee who dutifully contributes to America’s tax base. Nina is a low-income artist with Crohn’s Disease whose medical expenses make her a net parasite, despite also paying taxes. After a surprise performance of improvised music by soda-can virtuoso Cori, we discuss tariffs, security, Medicaid, FICA, “maxing out contributions,” Incidence of Taxation, employment benefits, monetary incentives, distortions, the Tragedy of the Commons, suckers, rationalizations, population collapse/explosion, and episodic disability. Is art, work? How hard is it to be poor? Can air be privatized? Like Life itself, our tax/benefits system isn’t fair, and it cannot go on forever. So a big Thank You to all American taxpayers who support unproductive, under-productive, post-productive, and ill members of society like your show-notes writer.Links:Leta Boylan testimonyTerminator 2: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0103064/Tragedy of the Commons: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tragedy_of_the_commonsThe Economist on more people claiming entitlements: https://www.economist.com/britain/2025/04/02/the-tyranny-of-tiktokkers-who-turn-up Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

Cori travels from statehouse to statehouse to testify against the worst excesses of gender ideology, while Nina gets sick for a month and loses her voice and relevance. Cori shares news from New Hampshire, where heterodox Democrat Jonah Wheeler is subject to a struggle session; Nina shares about watching television and playing Lexulous. Our lives couldn’t be more different, but we come back together to argue about AI art, neurodivergence, diagnosis skepticism, the attention economy, and ice cream. Our new slogan is “Bring Back Retardation!” and we’re doing our part.LinksJonah Wheeler breaks ranks with Democrats: https://x.com/Sidewalk_Steve/status/1902818393373413728Jonah Wheeler struggle/listening session:Cones ice cream (closed): https://www.yelp.com/biz/cones-artisanal-ice-cream-new-yorkWinter, a trans kid: https://x.com/LGBCourage/status/1899180045870010722Yarden Silveira: https://www.city-journal.org/article/yarden-silveira-death-transgender-surgery-complications?utm_source=virtuous&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=cjdailyAsh Hall: https://www.aclutx.org/en/biographies/ash-hallOvarit shutting down: https://ovarit.com/o/Announcements/676340/ovarit-is-closingSeverance: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11280740/Autism self-diagnosis: https://x.com/buttonslives/status/1906851869106082120B******t Jobs by David Graeber: https://cominsitu.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/david-graeber-b******t-jobs-a-theory-1.pdfepisodic disability: https://episodicdisabilities.ca/home.phpYou Be Illin’ - RUN DMC: Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

The hosts dive into whether we’ve won the gender wars yet, unearthing questions about identity, journalism, and societal norms. They tackle weak arguments, bad pronouns, and the complexities of gender identity discourse. Humorous interludes include pet care struggles and chocolate flavor experiments. A deeper discussion reveals tensions within the LGBTQ+ community and highlights the nuances of liberalism versus authoritarianism. Expect laughter and poignant reflections on rights, identity, and societal shifts.

Cori suddenly pivots to surprise Nina with an unexpected interview about her lifelong mental health affliction and the medication she takes to manage it. What is the difference between grief and depression? Should you “feel your feelings” when your feelings are broken? What is serotonin? Which is a better theory of the brain: etchings or bike gears? We know very little about brains, which raises another question: can we talk to an SSRI expert?This is actually a pretty good discussion about depression and antidepressants, which is why we made it its own episode (the previous half is Episode 163: Cori’s Boobs Break The Internet.)Link:Back on ‘Zac by Nina: https://blog.ninapaley.com/2025/02/08/back-on-zac/ Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

More than what you ever needed to know about Cori’s breasts! Are they real? Are they implants? Are they gynecomastia? Whatever you call them (Cori calls them “the Boys”) they never fail to upset certain people on Twitter. Plus: Cori’s sweater, Cori’s scarf, Cori’s weight, Cori’s latest testimony at the Indiana Statehouse, Cori’s political opponents, and — as if that weren’t enough — Cori’s conversion to Judaism!We broke this episode in two because Part Two is about something completely different.Links:KJK goes after Cori: https://x.com/heterodorx/status/1889852099518955762Cori’s testimony: https://x.com/heterodorx/status/1889695879658938488Sia Liilii: https://nevadawolfpack.com/sports/womens-volleyball/roster/sia-liilii/11631Chris Daley, Indiana ACLU: https://www.aclu-in.org/en/biographies/chris-daley Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

A founding editor of online magazine Queer Majority, Rio Veradonir advocates “an inclusive vision of queerness grounded in the liberal value of universal human rights, rather than identity politics.” We discuss liberalism, anti-liberalism, the gay press, extremism in media, neo-marxism, critical social justice, legitimate vs made-up oppression, population politics, the right to hurt yourself, the distribution of mens’ IQs, and, most importantly, pegging. Nina argues against surrogacy, Cori shares his podcast goals, and both admire Veradonir’s use of the word “orthopraxy.” We also use the word “retarded” because Heterodorx is a free speech zone. Liberty for all!Links:Queer Majority: https://www.queermajority.com/Rio Veradonir: https://www.queermajority.com/about-the-editor-sub/about-the-editor-rvCynical Theories by Helen Pluckrose & James Lindsay: https://cynicaltheories.com/The Baby Boon by Elinor Burkett: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/The-Baby-Boon/Elinor-Burkett/9780743242646Nina’s Sex-Positive Memoirs: https://4w.pub/sex-pos-memoirs/Kaynes-Hayek Rap Battle: https://tinyurl.com/mrtbebbmThe Economist: https://www.economist.com/San Francisco Sex Information: https://www.sfsi.org/Andrea Dworkin on The Sexual Revolution: https://blog.ninapaley.com/2019/08/23/andrea-dworkin-on-the-sexual-revolution/Wilfred Reilly: https://www.queermajority.com/contributors-1/wilfred-reillyDaniel Quasar: https://designsbydanielquasar.com/pages/freelance-and-commissions/ Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

Cori and Nina endure 2 hours of neo-religious propaganda so you don’t have to. Instead, you must endure 20 minutes of Nina attempting to recall plot points while Cori complains how long it’s taking. Are the characters flat, or nuanced? Is the movie merely terrible, or does it have cult classic potential? Is the director cleverer than we give him credit for? How much can the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences humiliate itself? Cori eventually talks himself into giving two thumbs up for “The Room of 2024” while Nina is just glad it’s over.Links:Emilia Pérez: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt20221436/Vaginoplasty song: The Room: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0368226/?ref_=fn_all_ttl_2“Oh hi Mark”: Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

Dive into a spirited analysis of Trump's controversial Executive Order 14168, as hosts Cori and Nina alternately read and critique its content. They mix humor with serious discussions on gender identity, women's rights, and the implications of defining biological sex in policy. Explore the complexities surrounding LGBTQI+ health rights and educational resources, all while enjoying their amusing exchanges. This engaging conversation balances satire with in-depth exploration of current societal debates.