
Heterodorx
“Based TERF and Tranny” Nina Paley and Cori Cohn talk about gender — and anything else they find interesting and/or horrifying — with warmth, sarcasm, respect, cutting intelligence, more sarcasm, and disarming honesty. heterodorx.substack.com
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Jan 16, 2025 • 1h 19min
Lesbians, Law, and Bicycles with Glenna Goldis
Lawyer and unyielding bicyclist Glenna Goldis knows the law, knows how to write, and knows women are female (ask her how!). After she describes her fancy road bike, and Nina lists her many recumbents, we move on to The US vs Skrmetti (also discussed here). Plus: cocaine, harm reduction, biker bars, the ACLU, propaganda, men in women’s prisons, “improper housing,” cults, academics, clergy, saviors, honor court, gay marriage, SOGI, judge trainings, and the nascent Gender Critical Law Society. Goldis reminds us, “the people who fall for a scam are the people who are targeted for a scam,” and asks the important question: will Kara Dansky “flip” for Cori? Tune in and don’t find out!LinksGlenna’s substack: https://badfacts.substack.com/Glenna on X: https://x.com/unyieldingbicycWho’s Who in US vs Skrmetti: https://badfacts.substack.com/p/whos-who-in-us-v-skrmettiRebecca Tuvel/Hypatia: https://www.feministcurrent.com/2017/05/25/open-letter-hypatia-controversy/Easy Racers: https://easyracers.com/GCCAN (now defunct): https://x.com/officialgccanWoLF: https://womensliberationfront.org/staff-and-boardAlison Bechdel: https://dykestowatchoutfor.com/about/Andrea Dworkin, “Abortion” from Right Wing Women: https://blog.ninapaley.com/2019/08/23/andrea-dworkin-on-the-sexual-revolution/“Lesbians” in tech: https://mimiandeunice.com/2018/11/07/women-in-tech/US v Skrmetti with Judge TERF: https://heterodorx.substack.com/p/judging-us-v-skrmetti-with-judge-891Gender Critical Law Society survey: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe8Z0ZmL4JEmObumuUQzM-AzhbQ2UP_FNZijYVQEjSxGU0WlA/viewform Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

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Dec 27, 2024 • 1h 11min
The Trouble With Parents with Stephanie Winn
In this engaging conversation, Stephanie Winn, a therapist and consultant specializing in Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria, shares her insights on navigating family dynamics in complex gender identity situations. She discusses the emotional toll on parents and siblings, emphasizing the importance of setting boundaries and fostering healthy communication. Stephanie also addresses the impact of social media and societal pressures on youth while advocating for humor and playfulness in family interactions. Her course for parents offers valuable strategies for managing these challenges.

Dec 17, 2024 • 1h 36min
Artificial Intelligence with Chris Waites
AI Art Director, amateur comedian, band-aid specialist, DEI hire, and street researcher Chris Waites returns to Heterodorx — now with 10% more white! After disclosing some shattering news from 23&Me, Chris shares his expertise on AI generated visual art (please follow along on his Instagram page). Is AI art actually art? Does it threaten human art jobs? What are the differences between models such as Midjourney and DALL-E? Are there hot redheaded men? Is AI a tool, or a medium? Why can’t AI imitate Nina’s style? Can redheads have souls? Who produces more crap: humans or AI? What’s the best way to write an AI visual prompt? Can a Pokemon consent? From Tumblr fursona artists to Google Gemini, the time of scarce content is over and a new era of head-spinning disorientation has begun. Bleeeep!Links:Chris’s Instagram account: https://www.instagram.com/crswaites/Our 2021 interview with Chris: https://www.heterodorx.com/podcast/episode-18-a-black-band-aid-for-white-guilt-with-chris-waites/Nina’s $150 Drawings: https://blog.ninapaley.com/category/hundred-dollar-drawings/Sarah Anderson vs AI: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/31/opinion/sarah-andersen-how-algorithim-took-my-work.htmlPreston Blair how-to-draw algorithms: https://animationresources.org/category/preston-blair/Wim Wenders Until The End of the World: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Until_the_End_of_the_WorldChris Waites/Midjourney art for “Kick Out The Jams” https://www.instagram.com/p/DCXDmn3SFX5/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==Chris Waites/Midjourney art for “We’re Not Going to Make It” https://www.instagram.com/p/DCXDCX4yUCw/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==Chris Waites/Midjourney art for The Presidents of the United States of America https://www.instagram.com/p/DCMkG1rPXm7/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==“Bite Marks” by Suno AI & Cori Cohn: https://suno.com/song/fc8fe1ce-dd97-4846-88f1-66701f7e2721Al Jaffee: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_JaffeeDon Martin: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Martin_(cartoonist)Google Gemini advises “Please Die” https://www.cbsnews.com/news/google-ai-chatbot-threatening-message-human-please-die/Chris on fecebook: https://www.facebook.com/crswaites--- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/heterodorx/support Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

Dec 7, 2024 • 1h 22min
Judging US v Skrmetti with Judge TERF
Retired MA High Court Justice & WoLF legal powerhouse Elspeth Cypher returns to Heterodorx to discuss US v. Skrmetti, the Supreme Court case that could change the pediatric gender-industrial complex forever. Nina gives a “pedestrian viewpoint” of the hearing before superior legal minds Elspeth and Cori discuss solicitor generals, attorney generals, constitutional chaos, differentiation, discrimination, Dobbs, Loving, quasi-suspect vs full suspect classification, the equal protection clause, differences between girls and boys, and sissy beer. Nina eventually gets to talk about her FEELINGS on suicidal ideation, the relentless annoyance of youthful distress, child abuse, un-adults, terrifying life processes, and the need to grow up and old. Then we hear Judge TERF’s predictions of the outcome (coming Spring 2025), and Cori reminds everyone he TOLD YOU SO.Links:US v Skrmetti: https://www.oyez.org/cases/2024/23-477US v Skrmetti Supreme Cour Oral Arguments (audio): https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/supreme-court-oral-arguments/id1734053538?i=1000679254238Admiral Levine pressures WPATH: https://jessesingal.substack.com/p/unsealed-court-documents-show-thatLevine as drawn by Nina in the Gender Wars deck: https://www.heterodorx.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/King_clubs.png“The Alabama case” Boe v. Marshall: https://www.alabamaag.gov/boe-v-marshall/Don’t Be A Lawyer (from Crazy Ex Girlfriend): https://youtu.be/Xs-UEqJ85KE?si=q89tFjRixG3bFKSHCori TOLD YOU SO: https://x.com/heterodorx/status/1670098583893291011--- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/heterodorx/support Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

Nov 25, 2024 • 1h 7min
Next year in Jerusalem?
Still on the path to conversion, Corinna updates us on his latest “Jew lessons” and why he kept the surname Cohn instead of anglicizing it to something like SparkleTree. We discuss the loss of oppression points for being Jewish; super-circumcision; antisemitism; and maybe visiting Israel someday. Meanwhile, Nina earns a subsistence wage sewing gloves, endures a Skyrizi On-Body Injector malfunction, talks to a robot, and looks like a grandma. Then we discuss Bluesky’s authoritarian moderation policies. Is telling the truth masochistic? Do liars know they’re lying? Are we losing a tranny, or gaining a Jew? Listen to this surprisingly wide-ranging episode to find out!Links:Poor audio quality and puns: https://www.heterodorx.com/podcast/episode-151-fear-of-a-woke-bike-mechanic/Jewish Literacy by Rabbi Joseph Telushkin: https://www.harpercollins.com/products/jewish-literacy-revised-ed-joseph-telushkin?variant=32117445263394Seder-Masochism: https://sedermasochism.com/download/Cochin Jews of India: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cochin_JewsNina’s Art Gloves: https://store.ninapaley.com/product/recovery-glovery/Summer of Glove: https://blog.ninapaley.com/2024/10/28/summer-of-glove/Crazy podcast full of commercials: https://open.spotify.com/episode/4ir3Gp2SDjz2Gmo5ZxQftbNina’s Crohn’s Disease treatment: https://blog.ninapaley.com/2024/03/02/my-last-hospital-administered-skyrizi-infusion/Skyrizi On-Body Injector: https://www.skyrizi.com/skyrizi-complete/gastro/obi-supportBryan Lunduke: https://lunduke.com/Cori’s adventures on Bluesky: https://x.com/heterodorx/status/1858381907714601083MysticSymbolic: https://www.mysticsymbolic.art/Jen Psaki lies on MSNBC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcKBpoooM5EIt’s Ma’am! https://youtu.be/EtqCgkOOjYc?si=iOZvAhM4YmpwjYl---- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/heterodorx/support Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

Nov 14, 2024 • 1h 7min
Post Election Derangement and Schadenfreude
Nina scrutinizes Cori’s Jewish pedigree and flaunts her own, while Cori compares Nina to Hitler and Kamala Harris to baloney. Then we discuss last week’s American presidential election! The suspense was killing us, but now we know who won (spoiler alert!) so we can stop compulsively checking our phones and breathe a sigh of relief and/or deranged terror. Cori reviews his history of voting Libertarian, dispenses advice for Democrats, bemoans his neighborhood Kroger, and warns, “all this hyperbole is literally gonna kill somebody." Shalom, TREFs and Trannies!Links:A Short History of the Jewish People by Raymond Scheindlin: https://global.oup.com/ushe/product/a-short-history-of-the-jewish-people-9780195139419?cc=us&lang=en&Seder-Masochism: https://sedermasochism.com/download/tref: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/trefharam: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/haramTables chairs and oaken chests (NOT cabinets): https://youtu.be/URWa0rbB1Kw?si=VAZnUZ7mv2rORo_v&t=136Schadenfreude: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/schadenfreudeHandmaid’s Tale uniforms: https://x.com/ninapaley/status/1854633563855208545BRICS: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BRICSNina’s gloves: https://blog.ninapaley.com/2024/10/28/summer-of-glove/--- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/heterodorx/support Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

Nov 4, 2024 • 48min
Fear of a Woke Bike Mechanic
Nina’s social anxiety disorder impedes proper maintenance of her bicycles, while Corinna’s anti-social disorder compels him to empty an entire canister of dad jokes into the podcast. Are pronouns passé? What is the word for lonely bereaved former cat owners? How much can you round up pi? Plus Nina announces a significant lifestyle change, and shares intimate details about Judge TERF. Don’t forget to leave us a 5-star review unless one of us isn’t wearing a bra, and be sure to smash that “like” button!Epilogue: the one non-woke bike shop in Nina’s town just got raided by federal agents for illegal firearms and explosives. I’m not kidding. Compelled pronouns or guns, those are your choices for bicycle repair in Champaign-Urbana.Links:Nina’s 2022 blog post about gender and cycling: https://blog.ninapaley.com/2022/03/21/cycling-and-gender-intersect-in-meaningful-ways/Byers Vacuum: http://www.byersvacuum.com/Golden Harbour: https://www.goldenharboronline.com/Our Judge TERF interview: https://www.heterodorx.com/podcast/episode-145-queering-the-law-with-judge-terf/Nevada Wolf Pack women's volleyball team boycotts San Jose: https://www.outkick.com/sports/unr-womens-volleyball-shared-stories-protect-womens-athleticsOskee-Wow-Wow Illinois! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chief_IlliniwekAlma Otter: https://blog.ninapaley.com/2019/02/19/the-alma-otter/Federal Agents Bust Urbana Bike Shop For Illegal Firearms and Explosives: https://www.wcia.com/video/urbana-man-indicted-after-federal-search-reveals-more-than-100-firearms-in-his-home/10153556/--- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/heterodorx/support Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

Oct 30, 2024 • 1h 24min
Aaron Kimberly Look-a Like a Man
What happens when a butch lesbian who’s been on testosterone 18 years realizes she wants back into womanhood? Whatever it is, prepare for a tidal wave of masculinized women about to do the same. Can women accept women who look like men as their own? How many masculine visual cues (facial hair, baldness) can/will/should other women tolerate? Is this uncomfortable liminal situation the fault of (de)transitioners themselves, or is it everyone’s problem now? Aaron Kimberly discusses her own experiences post-T, including: irreversibility, male-passing forever, the crisis narrative of detransitioners, homophobia fatigue, and insensitive urinal jokes. Plus: turbo-butches, pink bows, the abstract vs the practical, giggling vs belly laughs, tiny heads, symbolic gestures, metoidioplasty, mental health, bowing out of groups, lesbian fashion compliance, Vancouver weirdos, fuzzy Birkenstocks, and elusive but desperately needed NON-affirming healthcare.Links:Aaron Kimberly on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@aaron.kimberlyAaron Kimberly substack: https://aaronkimberly.substack.com/Aaron Kimberly twitter: https://x.com/Aaron_GDACGenspect Lisbon conference: https://genspect.org/the-bigger-picture-lisbon/LGB Alliance: https://lgballiance.org.uk/conference/LGBT Courage Coalition: https://www.lgbtcourage.org/Aaron Kimberly playing the banjo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLbUOie5y7k&ab_channel=AaronKimberlyRainbow Connection: https://youtu.be/WS3Lkc6Gzlk?si=jNqw-7J2pLuiH5yaAaron Webster: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Webster“She Look Like A Man”: https://youtu.be/b7NrJqV7i2k?si=oRoJhbtkr2psUeN4--- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/heterodorx/support Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

Oct 21, 2024 • 1h 16min
The Academic Freedom Closet with Cory Clark
The Dorx experience a proliferation of Cories as behavioral scientist Cory Clark shares fascinating observations about victimhood strategies, punishment, tribes, norms, taboos, hyper-cautious conformity, the ambition of academics, scrutiny of unpopular papers, self-censorship, socially costly beliefs, tenure, reputational threats, and socially desirable empirical conclusions that turn out not to be true. Nina signals her victim status as a canceled artist while morally judging cowards; Cori (Cohn) notes how errors in academia spread through society; and Cory (Clark) confesses she is a confessor to many a guilty and frightened professor. It turns out everybody wants power and status, even scientists! Maybe your co-hosts are doing it wrong.Links:Cory Clark’s website: https://www.coryjclark.com/Adversarial Collaboration Project: https://web.sas.upenn.edu/adcollabproject/Cory Clark’s Twitter: https://x.com/ImHardcoryLisa Selin Davis on the Philly Trans Wellness Conference: https://www.broadview.news/p/fear-and-loathing-and-trans-joy-inStereotype Threat: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stereotype_threat--- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/heterodorx/support Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

Oct 10, 2024 • 43min
Hurricane Gender downgraded to Tropical Depression Gender
Speaking of depression, Cori admits his but Nina sounds so cynically resigned maybe she’s depressed too. After discussing feline euphoria, free speech, hate speech, terrible presidential candidates, and men’s clothing, Cori reveals his misadventures trying to get medical care from endocrinologists who prioritize “gender identity” over human health. Nina brags about her postmenopausal testosterone-producing cojones and insists women are more than “estrogen containers”. We’re getting sick of talking about gender but no one will talk to us about AI, and if we continue insulting potential guests no one will talk to us at all. Is this the end of “content”? Listen and decide — but please don’t tell us.Links:Nina’s announces write-in candidacy on Twitter while wearing men’s clothing: https://x.com/ninapaley/status/1838284192540491924/photo/2Judge TERF episode: https://www.heterodorx.com/podcast/episode-145-queering-the-law-with-judge-terf/Will Malone (Endocrinologist) episode: https://www.heterodorx.com/podcast/episode-63-ask-an-endocrinologist-with-dr-william-malone/Women’s volleyball teams refusing to play San Jose State: https://www.christianpost.com/news/womens-volleyball-teams-forfeit-against-sjsu-over-trans-player.htmlHigh school girls’ volleyball player gets concussion from male player: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-13693959/payton-mcnabb-volleyball-player-paralyzed-brain-damage-transgender.htmlFemale athletes sue NCAA: https://www.iconswomen.com/take-on-the-ncaa/Seder-Masochism (Nina’s movie about Passover): https://sedermasochism.com/download/Nina’s weird art glovesapocalypseanimated.commysticsymbolic.art--- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/heterodorx/support Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe
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