
Conversations
Conversations draws you deeper into the life story of someone you may have heard about, but never met. Journey into their world, joining them on epic adventures to unfamiliar places, back in time to wild moments of history, and into their deepest memories, to be moved by personal stories of resilience and redemption.
Hosted by Richard Fidler and Sarah Kanowski, Conversations is the ABC's most popular long-form interview program. Every day we explore the vast tapestry of human experience, weaving together narratives from history, science, art, and personal storytelling.
Conversations Live is coming to the stage! Join Sarah Kanowski and Richard Fidler for an unmissable night of unforgettable stories, behind-the-scenes secrets, and surprise guests. Australia’s most-loved podcast — live, up close, and in the moment. Find out more at the Conversations website.
Latest episodes

Jun 27, 2025 • 50min
Encore: my three fathers
In this engaging conversation, Ann Patchett, an acclaimed novelist and Nashville bookstore owner, shares her unique perspective shaped by her three father figures, each offering invaluable lessons in strength and acceptance. She reflects on a transformative year without shopping, revealing the deeper meanings behind materialism. With humor, she recounts her encounters with invisibility, explores the complexities of family dynamics, and highlights the power of friendships, all while weaving in her upcoming book about legacy and life’s profound stories.

Jun 26, 2025 • 54min
Inside the six-day siege of the Iranian Embassy in London
Ben McIntyre, a British author and historian known for his expertise in espionage, dives into the harrowing 1980 Iranian Embassy siege in London. He shares astonishing details about the hostages and the complex motivations behind their captors. The personal transformation of PC Trevor Lock reveals the nuances of courage under fire. McIntyre also discusses the strategic maneuvers of the SAS and the psychological dynamics at play, including eerie phenomena like Stockholm Syndrome, offering an unforgettable glimpse into this dramatic historical moment.

Jun 25, 2025 • 48min
Mass murder, cannibalism and insanity — inside Mao's cultural revolution
Linda Javen, an expert on modern China and author of 'Bombard the Headquarters', delves into the dark legacy of Mao's Cultural Revolution. She discusses how this turbulent period from 1966 to 1976 deeply scarred Chinese society. Javen explores the eerie nostalgia among today’s youth for Maoist ideals amid current challenges like unemployment. The podcast highlights stories of betrayal, the rise of Red Guards, and the impact on individuals' lives. With insights into political propaganda and its resonance with Xi Jinping's leadership, Javen sheds light on China's complex past and present.

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Jun 24, 2025 • 54min
How I became a brainwashed cult bride
Liz Cameron, author of 'Cult Bride: How I was brainwashed and how I broke free,' shares her harrowing journey of escaping the JMS cult, where she was groomed as a 'cult bride.' She discusses the gradual brainwashing process, including love-bombing and isolation from loved ones. Liz highlights the severe impact of cult practices on mental health, including her struggles with an eating disorder. Her story reveals the challenges of recovery, the importance of resilience, and the power of telling one's own narrative.

Jun 20, 2025 • 54min
Encore: the charming Italian narcissist
Kerstin Pilz, author of 'Loving My Lying, Dying, Cheating Husband', shares her heart-wrenching journey of discovering her husband’s infidelity while he battled terminal cancer. She reflects on the duality of love and betrayal, navigating the complexities of her emotions as she faced both grief and forgiveness. Kerstin delves into the challenges of caring for a partner with a narcissistic personality amid illness, exploring themes of trust, sacrifice, and personal growth throughout her captivating story.

Jun 19, 2025 • 52min
Mr. Finch — deathworker in the tapestry of life
Katia Ariel, author of 'Ferryman: The Life and Deathwork of Ephraim Finch', dives into the profound legacy of Ephraim Finch, a revered figure in the Melbourne Jewish community, known for his compassionate guidance through grief. She explores Ephraim’s transformative journey from Geoffrey William to a master of burial rituals, touching on the deep emotional support he offers families in mourning. Katia also shares insights on the cultural significance of Jewish mourning traditions, including shiva and community rituals, showcasing how they facilitate healing and connection.

Jun 18, 2025 • 53min
The mind f**k of pain — retraining your system to tackle chronic pain
Lorimer Moseley, a neuroscientist at the University of South Australia, specializes in the fascinating but perplexing nature of pain. He discusses how pain isn't solely tied to physical injuries, revealing the mind's role in chronic pain. Lorimer shares how his own struggles with pain post-injury led him to explore its neuroscience. The conversation dives into the subjective aspects of pain, personal narratives, and the societal stigma surrounding chronic conditions, ultimately advocating for a deeper understanding to improve pain management.

Jun 17, 2025 • 53min
When Peter Greste became the story
Peter Greste, a renowned journalist and former Al Jazeera correspondent, recounts his harrowing experience of being imprisoned in Cairo for 400 days. He discusses the psychological toll of solitary confinement and the struggle to adapt to life after his release. Greste shares insights on the resilience of individuals in conflict zones and the vital importance of family support during his ordeal. He reflects on the deep emotional wounds of captivity, press freedom, and the relentless pursuit of truth amid political unrest.

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Jun 13, 2025 • 51min
Encore: When success, a big house and a loving family aren't enough
Scottish novelist Andrew O'Hagan, known for his insightful exploration of social class and identity, dives deep into the elusive nature of success. He examines the character Campbell Flynn from his latest novel, discussing the haunting question of whether wealth and status can truly bring happiness. O'Hagan shares personal anecdotes from his own upbringing, reflecting on the complexities of friendship, loyalty, and the ethical dilemmas tied to ambition. The conversation also critiques London's elite culture, particularly the unsettling influence of wealth on personal integrity.

Jun 12, 2025 • 47min
Ione Skye on surrendering her past and forgiving herself
Joining the conversation is Ione Skye, a Gen X actress best known for her role in 'Say Anything...' and her notable relationships with Anthony Kiedis and Adam Horovitz. Ione candidly discusses coming to terms with her absent father and the turbulent journey through Hollywood's highs and lows. She reflects on her tumultuous teenage romance with Kiedis amid his addiction, experiences of infidelity in her marriage, and her transformation toward self-acceptance. Now happily married to Ben Lee, Ione shares her journey of love, growth, and forgiveness.