
Conversations
Conversations draws you deeper into the life story of someone you may have heard about, but never met. Journey into their world, joining them on epic adventures to unfamiliar places, back in time to wild moments of history, and into their deepest memories, to be moved by personal stories of resilience and redemption.
Hosted by Richard Fidler and Sarah Kanowski, Conversations is the ABC's most popular long-form interview program. Every day we explore the vast tapestry of human experience, weaving together narratives from history, science, art, and personal storytelling.
Conversations Live is coming to the stage! Join Sarah Kanowski and Richard Fidler for an unmissable night of unforgettable stories, behind-the-scenes secrets, and surprise guests. Australia’s most-loved podcast — live, up close, and in the moment. Find out more at the Conversations website.
Latest episodes

Jun 6, 2025 • 52min
Hormones and mental health with Dr Jayashri Kulkarni
Dr. Jayashri Kulkarni, a psychiatrist and professor at Monash University, shares insights from her research on the link between women's hormones and mental health. She passionately discusses the benefits of estrogen therapy in treating conditions like depression and schizophrenia. The conversation touches on the evolving role of patient voices in mental health care, emphasizing collaboration over traditional doctor-patient dynamics. Jayashri also highlights the need for more inclusive medical research, advocating for a holistic approach to women's health that considers cultural and environmental factors.

Jun 5, 2025 • 48min
Part TWO: Locked up in China — Cheng Lei on cell mates, singing and survival
Cheng Lei, a Chinese-Australian journalist detained in China for over three years, shares her harrowing experience of isolation and survival. After being moved to a cell with three women, she finds camaraderie and even romance through singing and secret communication. Lei reflects on the absurdity of her charges, her clever coping strategies, and the emotional toll of separation from her children. Finally, she recounts her journey to freedom and the joy of reintegrating back into her life in Melbourne, armed with resilience and newfound strength.

Jun 4, 2025 • 49min
Part ONE: Locked up in China — Cheng Lei on state paranoia and staying sane in isolation
Cheng Lei, a Chinese-Australian journalist once with a state broadcaster, shares her gripping story of being detained for three years on espionage charges in China. She reflects on the absurd nature of her accusations and the harsh realities of isolation, forced confinement, and psychological manipulation. Cheng reveals how she maintained her sanity by practicing German and rationing her mental resources. She also discusses the emotional toll of being separated from her children and the oppressive nature of Chinese state security, providing a profound insight into her harrowing experience.

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Jun 3, 2025 • 52min
Depersonalisation — when Nathan lost his sense of self and nothing felt real
Nathan Dunne, an Australian author and art critic, shares his harrowing journey with depersonalization, which struck him during a midnight swim in London. He recounts years of misdiagnoses and the emotional chaos that accompanied his loss of self. Through poignant reflections, Nathan discusses how familial connections and a war memoir from his grandfather played vital roles in his healing. He delves into the complexities of love amid disconnection and emphasizes the importance of compassion in overcoming mental health challenges.

May 30, 2025 • 49min
A home filled with music — raising the Kanneh-Masons
Kadiatu Kanneh-Mason, a former English academic and mother of seven gifted classical musicians, shares her family's musical journey. She discusses the dedication required to nurture their talents, including her children's impressive achievements, like Isata’s concerto at eleven and Sheku's performance at the royal wedding. Kadiatu also reflects on cultural identity, the challenges of raising a big, mixed-race family, and the significance of making music accessible to everyone. Their home is a delightful blend of chaos and harmony, filled with the sounds of classical music.

May 29, 2025 • 53min
Why Colm Toibin ran away with the circus — to Barcelona, Brooklyn and beyond
Colm Toibin, an acclaimed Irish novelist known for works like Brooklyn and Nora Webster, shares his adventurous life journey. He reflects on moving from rural Ireland to the liberating chaos of post-Franco Spain. Colm discusses how personal loss and family dynamics fuel his storytelling, revealing the poignant memories that shape his novels. He contrasts the cultural richness of Los Angeles with his Irish roots, while also pondering the tension between creative desires and conventional careers. Expect insights laden with humor and nostalgia!

May 28, 2025 • 51min
Hilde Hinton's home for the temporarily defeated
Hilde Hinton, a prison officer turned best-selling novelist, shares her poignant journey marked by profound loss and resilience. She discusses the impact of her mother’s early death and how she shielded her siblings from grief. Hilde’s debut novel, a reflection of her tumultuous upbringing, helped her brother understand their shared past. With her unique home in Melbourne serving as a refuge for those in distress, she emphasizes the importance of empathy, creativity, and the healing power of storytelling.

May 27, 2025 • 52min
The secret life of Scarlett, the octopus
Alex Schnell, a comparative animal psychologist and National Geographic Explorer, shares her captivating experiences with octopuses, especially her bond with Scarlett. She reveals how these creatures exhibit remarkable intelligence, personality, and memory. The discussion dives into their fascinating mating rituals and cooperative behaviors, illustrating the emotional depth of octopuses. Alex also reflects on the broader implications of animal intelligence and our connections to these otherworldly beings, inviting listeners to rethink the cognitive abilities of cephalopods.

May 23, 2025 • 51min
Encore: How Sean Sweeney found his deaf heart
Sean Sweeney, an Auslan interpreter and child of deaf adults, shares his remarkable journey from rebellion against the deaf world to becoming a vital communication bridge during Australia's Bushfire Emergency. He reflects on growing up in a deaf family and the unique connections within the deaf community. The discussion touches on the challenges of interpreting, the evolution of Auslan, and the importance of identity. Sean also opens up about life after his heart attack, emphasizing the transformative lifestyle changes he's embraced.

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May 22, 2025 • 52min
The miserable lives and golden guns of tyrants, dictators and despots
Marcel Dirsus, a political scientist and author, dives deep into the world of tyrants and their precarious grip on power. He shares gripping insights into the psychology of dictators, including their fear and paranoia despite projecting strength. The discussion also highlights the golden gun paradox, exposing how reliance on loyalists can lead to vulnerability. Dirsus recounts his terrifying experience during a coup in Africa, illuminating the journey from stability to chaos and offering a renewed perspective on the resilience of democracy.