Tough Girl Podcast

Anjana is an Earth Scientist, a writer and an advocate for greater diversity in the natural heritage sector. She started running 8 years ago and her weekly fitness regime consists of 10k runs, HIIT, Iyenga yoga and swimming. She has completed four half marathons to date. Anjana is also a keen walker and has been an Ambassador for the Ramblers to encourage more people of colour into nature.   Anjana describes herself as a time traveller using clues locked away in rocks, fossils and landscapes to reveal the hidden mysteries and stories about ancient life on earth.  She helps people to understand how our planet evolved, changed and survived over 4.6 billion years and how this knowledge can help us prepare for an uncertain future. As a South Asian woman, she proudly weaves this into her work, bringing an informed and intelligent richness to narratives about deep time, landscapes and natural history. Anjana has worked in protected landscapes for over 20 years helping audiences of all backgrounds learn about the amazing rocks and landscapes around us. She has been recognised for her work through multiple awards including The Geographical Award from the Royal Geographical Society, The RH Worth Award from the Geological Society of London and most recently The Halstead Medal from the Geologists Association.  But these accolades have not come easily. Challenge is something that Anjana has experienced her whole life. From becoming a lone parent to a young baby overnight through to racism and discrimination, Anjana has always fought back and sought to carve her own path in life. She is now writing a non-fiction popular science book, The Whispers of Rock, due to be published in the US and UK in September 2025 revealing the secret stories of rocks and how they connect us to each other and the world we live in.    *** Don't miss out on new episodes of the Tough Girl Podcast, airing every Tuesday at 7am UK time! Subscribe now to be the first to hear from inspiring women as they share their adventures and physical challenges. If you want to support Tough Girl's mission of increasing the number of female role models in the media, especially in adventure and physical challenge, consider becoming a patron on Patreon. Your support can help us continue to showcase the strength and resilience of women around the world. Visit www.patreon.com/toughgirlpodcast to learn more and thank you for your support!   Show Notes Who is Anjana and what she does Living in Dorset, close to the Jurassic Coast Her passion for rocks, fossils and landforms Her love for rocks and where it came from Growing up in Slough (a town on the outskirts of London) Not having access to green spaces Being interested in science Being inspired by the Shetani Lava Flow, Tsavo West National Park, Eastern part of Kenya Wanting to be an Earth Scientist Not being supported and encouraged to follow her dreams Expectations and pressures on South Asian Women Deciding to get her PhD - Staying the impact of climate change on ice and how ice had shaped and carved our landscapes Female Mentors and role models  Professor Jane Hart  Being ignored and talked over at conferences  Needing to prove herself over and over again Doing a post doctoral research fellowship in America.  The West Antarctic Ice Stream Initiative - A Multidisciplinary Study of Rapid Climate Change and Future Sea Level  Moving to live in Utah, America for 3 years  Not being able to go to Antarctica due to visa issues and time constraints  Spending time in the outdoors and what that looks like Walking and walking in the landscape Becoming an Ambassador for The Ramblers UK  Getting into running What is this rock?! Why chalk is her favourite rock What her work week looks like Working on her new book - The Whispers of Rock - to be published in 2025 A global story of rocks across the world Going travelling with her mother Visiting Australia and Malaysia  Wanting to understand the spiritual connection that communities have with rocks  Taking rocks and the link to bad luck The destruction of rock to make limestone for cement  Rocks being an infinite resource  The spiritual connection with rocks Mesa Verde National Park Ancestral Pueblo people Tips to encourage children to be passionate about the outdoors and to connect with nature  Using the outdoors to process trauma Walking with her daughter  Ted X Talk - How rocks connect communities  How rocks are connected to tea and coffee drinking  How to connect with Anjana Advice for following your passion  Dealing with self doubt and worry  Why your voice matters  Surrounding yourself with people who believe that you can do it     Social Media Website www.anjanakhatwa.com  Instagram @jurassicg1rl Twitter @jurassicg1rl Youtube - @dranjanakhatwa       

Cath draws on her careers as an Olympic rower and conflict diplomat, combined with her experience of working with a wide range of organisations across sectors to raise performance, transform cultures and develop effective leadership and teams. As an Olympic rower, Cath competed at three Olympic Games. Highlights include winning the World Championships in 2003 and an Olympic silver medal in 2004.   As a diplomat for over a decade, Cath specialised in conflict issues, with postings to Bosnia and Iraq, as well as leading in Whitehall on the UK civilian contribution to stabilising conflicts around the world. These experiences equipped her with leadership, negotiating skills, resilience, and the ability to deliver outstanding performance under extremely challenging circumstances. Cath has published, The Long Win: The search for a better way to succeed - that challenges the often narrow lens we have on what winning means, and sets out a new way of thinking and reframing success across business, sport and education. Cath continues to be active in supporting the next generation of sporting talent, including through support of the Youth Sport Trust, the True Athlete Project and as Chair of Love Rowing (British Rowing's Charitable Foundation).  Cath has commentated for Henley Royal Regatta and the BBC Boat Races and been invited to review the newspapers on Radio 4’s Broadcasting House. Cath is an Honorary Fellow of Pembroke College, Cambridge and the University of Wales, Aberystwyth, and a Steward of Henley Royal Regatta. *** New episodes of the Tough Girl Podcast go live every Tuesday at 7am UK time - Hit the subscribe button so you don’t miss out.  You can support the mission to increase the amount of female role models in the media. Visit www.patreon.com/toughgirlpodcast Thank you.   Show notes Who is Cath Working in the world of leadership, development and culture Being an Olympian and working as a diplomat  Her new book - The Long Win: The search for a better way to succeed  Her early years growing up Not being sporty! Getting into a rowing boat for the first time Having fun on the water Being willing to try new things Having no pressure or expectations Being in the Olympics and dealing with the pressure and the stress Writing about long win thinking  Moving away from short narrow definitions of success Winning the silver media at the Olympics - success or failure? What does success look like? Framing success in your own terms Focusing on the journey The power of clarifying what matters The medal Resilience and how people can develop it Why progress is not always in a straight line Reframing and moving forward Working with a sports psychologist  Encouraging women to say yes to new challenges Confidence  Why doubts can be a good things Fitness and exercise and how it plays a part of her life now Dr. Stacey Sims  How to connect with Cath Keep exploring what’s possible, together with others  Future plans for 2023   Social Media Website: cathbishop.com  Instagram: @cath_bishop  Twitter: @thecathbishop Book: The Long Win: The search for a better way to succeed     

Alexandra Allred made sports (and medical) history through activism and determination. When she learned that women were not allowed in bobsled, she lobbied for equal status with a relentless letter-writing campaign. It had not yet occurred to her that she had no idea how to actually bobsled. As a former fighter in martial arts, she had only cared that women were banned from a sport deemed “too dangerous” and “too fast.” When told that the women’s program had no by-laws and was therefore unofficial, Allred co-authored the first U.S. women’s bylaws and helped secure a sponsor. She ultimately won the U.S. Nationals in September 1994, making sports history as she was named to the first-ever U.S. women’s bobsled team. When the United States Olympic Committee named her Athlete of the Year for her sport, it made international news that Allred was also pregnant. At the time, there was very little data on elite pregnant athletes who did powerlifting and plyometrics. While Allred became the “poster child” of the Case Western OB/GYN international study, Allred was squatting 375 lbs. and clocked at 20 MPH sprints into her second trimester.  The results of this study changed how to measure the safety of baby in utero for competitive athletes. Both the United States and International Olympic Committee used Allred’s training data as a safety guide for pregnant athletes and she served as a fitness/nutrition expert for two decades.  Today, Allred is an adjunct professor at Tarleton State University and continues to write/research and work with those living with special needs. Her most recent book: When Women Stood - The Untold History of Females Who Changed Sports and the World. Was published in February 2023.   About the book: When Women Stood - The Untold History of Females Who Changed Sports and the World.   An unapologetically candid and illuminating history of women and their fight for equality, told through the influential world of sports. From early Amazons to modern-day athletes, women have been fighting for their rightful place in the world. The history of these female athletes—whether warriors on the battlefield or competitors in the sports arena—has often been neglected, yet it is through sports that women have changed society, gaining entry into education, travel, politics, and more. When Women Stood is an eye-opening chronicle of the amazing women who refused to accept the status quo and fought for something better for themselves and for those who would follow. Featuring exclusive insight from athletes such as Jackie Joyner-Kersee, Kathrine Switzer, Nancy Lieberman, Briana Scurry, and Nancy Hogshead-Maker, this book includes the stories of female football players, Olympic athletes, powerlifters, and soccer stars, of historians, archeologists, crusaders, and scientists. Women’s sports history cannot be told without also telling the story of the fight for gender and racial equality, economics, medical biases, gay and transgender history, violence, religion, media, abuse, and activism. When Women Stood is the first to go beyond the record books and gold medal counts to truly dig into the vital role women and sports have played in instigating change in society as a whole. And it shows that, despite seemingly unsurmountable odds, the true spirit of the female athlete can never be restrained.   New episodes of the Tough Girl Podcast go live every Tuesday at 7am UK time - Subscribe so you don’t miss out.  Support the mission to increase the amount of female role models in the media. Visit www.patreon.com/toughgirlpodcast Thank you.   Show notes Call her Alex Growing up and loving the non-traditional female sports  Having lived in 20 places by the time she was 18 Being born in Germany and spending her childhood moving from place to place Living in Russia and being followed by the KGB Getting into Martial Arts at 18 and being a professional fighter Seeing bobsled for the first time on TV and not seeing any women competing  Asking the question - why are there no women competing? 1940 US Champion - Katherine Dewey - Bobsleigh pilot won the open bobsled competition  Starting a campaign to change the rules to allow women to compete Winning the US Nationals in 1994 while being 4 month pregnant  British Boxer - Jane Couch making a difference for women in boxing  Getting push back for being a pregnant athlete Why she didn’t drop out  Being part of a medical study on pregnancy and athletics Mentors in sports  Misogyny at the highest levels in sport Figuring out fundraising and sponsorship for the bobsled team Keeping motivated after setback after setback.  The power of women The label of tomboy Writing the book New Book:  When Women Stood - The Untold History of Females Who Changed Sports and the World.  Planning a 2nd book Thoughts on World Athletics banning transgender women from competition. Lack of research for the cis-gender female body Why women aren’t studied Focusing on female hormones  Mary Cain  Dr. Stacey Sims  Creating a space for transgender athletes  The importance of education around transgender men and women Menstrual cycle and how it ties to performance  Heavy topics Media coverage for women and how’s it changed over the past 30 years How the worlds sees women  Why it’s less about what she looks like and more about what she can do  The power of strong, outspoken women Being you How to connect with Alex Advice for women who want to help drive change Practical steps to support and encourage other women Support your sisters and stand up for ourselves   Social Media Website: www.alexandraallred.com  Book: When Women Stood - The Untold History of Females Who Changed Sports and the World.    

Rogeema shares her story of pushing her own limits and proving to people, especially other women, that nothing is impossible if you set your mind to it. Rogeema talks about her early years and not being sporty, never being picked for sports teams, and not knowing what to do at the gym. She shares her journey of starting as a runner and moving into triathlon, including learning how to swim at 35 years old and signing up for her first 5k race.  Rogeema discusses the challenges of going from a half marathon to an ultra marathon, hitting "the wall" while running, and why you need time to recover when running the longer distances. Rogeema also talks about the mental preparation needed before race day, the importance of putting in the training, and working with a sports psychologist to reprogram her mind for success. Rogeema also discusses her mental health struggles after becoming an Ironman and the importance of having a tribe and community. Throughout the episode, Rogeema emphasizes the power of visibility and inspiring more Muslim women to enter the world of triathlon and running while wearing a hijab. She wants to show young girls that anything is possible and encourages listeners to not change themselves, but instead to change the game. To connect with Rogeema, listeners can visit her website at www.rogeemakenny.com and follow her on Instagram @rogeemakenny.    Don't miss out on new episodes of the Tough Girl Podcast released every Tuesday at 7am UK time, and consider supporting the podcast on Patreon to increase the representation of female role models in the media. www.patreon.com/toughgirlpodcast. Thank you    Show notes Who is Rogeema Growing up in Cape Town, South Africa Starting as a runner and moving into triathlon Woking as a freelance management consultant and project manager Her early years  Not being sporty and never being picked for the sports teams Learning how to swim at 35 years old Doing her first sprint triathlon Being into health and fitness Her running journey  Getting her black belt in karate Signing up for her first 5k race Building up the distance over time Not feeling like a real runner Not knowing what to do at the gym and feeling lost Having an accountability buddy Starting to run half marathons, marathons and ultra marathons Her love for running   How running helped with her mental health  Feeling a sense of achievement after doing something difficult Why endurance sports change you as a person Why you should do hard things Making progress in running and increasing the distances  Following a training plan for the ultra distances The challenge of going from a half marathon to a half marathon  Hitting “the wall” while running Why you need time to recover when running the longer distances Why you need to train hard and do the tough sessions Building up your resilience muscle Doing her last Ironman in tough conditions The challenges of race day and overcoming them and feeling even stronger at the finish Mental preparation before the race  The Power Pose - Amy Cuddy - Ted Talk   Why you need to put in the training Getting ‘switched on’, on race day Not being a naturally athlete and having to work for every little gain Working with a sports psychologist and re programming her mind for success  The power of professional help and why it’s invaluable Book: The Brave Athlete: Calm the F*ck Down and Rise to the Occasion by Simon Marshall Phd, & Lesley Paterson   Learning to control your emotions Blog: The Dark Side of becoming an Ironman - Mental Health Struggles Dealing with her mental state changing after the race  Trying to understand what was happening Needing a tribe and a community  Happy hormones and exercise  Rest and recovery after an Ironman Doing social races and social training  The women who inspired her to start triathlon Lucy Charles-Barclay - World Triathlon long distance champion @lucycharles93 Chrissie Wellington TGP episode  Khadijah Diggs @khadijahtriathlete  Inspiring more muslin women to enter the world of triathlon and running while wearing a hijab The power of visibility and seeing other women out there competing  How to connect with Rogeema Final words of advice  Wanting to show young girls that anything is possible   Social Media Website: www.rogeemakenny.com  Instagram: @rogeema     

Cory Maria Dack is an Indigenous Latina who recently finished thru-paddling the entire Mississippi River - all 2,552 miles/4,108 km - source to sea, an incredible adventure that took over 134 days.  Born in Ecuador and raised in the U.S. (in Duluth, Minnesota near the Canadian border), Cory has been an adventure guide and outdoor leader for nearly 20 years. She decided to thru-paddle the most famous waterway in the U.S. in part to increase representation of women of color, fat bodied people, immigrants, queer folks, and other demographics often left out of the narrative on the water and in the outdoor recreation world. Cory’s main mission and message on her Mississippi River Trip was to “Decolonize Thru-Paddling,” a play on words that highlighted how she and her paddle partners: 1. Decolonized the concept of a “thru-paddle” (paddling all the way through a waterway, source to sea) 2. Uplifed messages of decolonization “thru” the act of paddling. What does it mean to “decolonize” something?  Decolonization is the important practice of unpacking ways of life that support and are informed by systemic racism, colonization, homophobia, transphobia, ableism, fat phobia, misogyny, xenophobia, and any other form of systemic violence. Cory and her friends “Decolonized Thru Paddling” by:  * Bridging equity gaps through representation of Women, People of Color, fat bodied people, members of the LGBQT+ community, immigrants, economically disadvantaged people, and other demographics that are underrepresented on the water and in the outdoors * Honoring Native American/Indigenous Land by being in community and ceremony with Native communities, elders, and water protectors across the country * Being grounded in community-driven values: they prioritized meeting people who live on the River and delighted in making new friends and connections along the way   Catch the latest episodes of the Tough Girl Podcast every Tuesday at 7am UK time. Don't miss out, hit the subscribe button to stay up-to-date! You can also help us increase the representation of female role models in the media especially in relation to adventure and physical challenges by supporting our mission. Visit www.patreon.com/toughgirlpodcast to learn more. Thank you for your support!   Show notes Who is Cory Born in Ecuador, but being raised in Minnesota Currently being on a national tour called - Canoe Mobile  Being adopted at 3 months old Her early years and not being outdoorsy Getting into the outdoors in her early 20s Working at a summer camp and learning new skills Gaining new qualifications while at camp Becoming a canoe guide Feeling like an imposter Having empowering mentors who have supported and encouraged her Knowing that she belongs and that she deserves to be there Ignoring the other systems (gender, wealth, race, age)  that were telling her she didn’t belong  Decolonization and why we do the things we do Who is worthy to spend time in the outdoors Coming up with the idea to thru-paddle the Mississippi River Spending 100 days on the Mississippi River and wanting to do another long river trip Working for 3 seasons and using grassroots funding to pay for the journey  Recognising her privilige Wanting to empower others to go on adventures Wanting to take her time on the journey and meet communities along the way Fears and concerns before the journey  Dealing with the cold weather and winter while on the river Starting the journey at the end of August Mental health struggles while on the river Reaching out to community and asking for help River Angels Magical moments  134 days on the river Having Emily Ford come and join her for 200 miles on the river  Daily life while on the river and finding peace and a new rhythm to living Not feeling safe going solo Paddling with Sarah for the final 1000 miles Land Acknowledgements  Paddling through the twin cities  Connecting with many local community groups Black Lives Matter  Native Lives Matter  Minnesota Immigrants Rights Action Committee (MIRAC)  Bdóte ('meeting of waters' or 'where two rivers meet') considered to be a place of spiritual importance to the Dakota People. Brining communities together in a moment of celebration  The truth behind Fort Snelling and the land it stands on A time for medicine and a time for healing Making an offering to the water/river Reflecting back on the journey - success and lessons learned How do you define success on a journey  Adjusting back to normal life  Rolling straight into the canoe mobile tour  Celebrating the end of the journey Working with a therapist and being able to speak to them while on the river How to connect with Cory Final words of advice Wanting everyone to know that they belong in nature, outside, outdoors and it’s safe for them to be there. The power of starting small     Social Media Women on the Water Website: www.women-on-the-water22.com Instagram: @corymaria13     

Nicki Bass is a Business Psychologist, Army Veteran and host of The Everyday Adventure Podcast.  Having always loved the thrill of adventure sports and having served around the world, she has first-hand experience of how being taken outside of your comfort zone can dramatically improve your ability to face life's challenges. Currently studying for a Doctorate in Occupational Psychology, this experience gives her a unique insight into how resilience theory and practice align. On leaving the Army in 2017 she set up her own consultancy, Resilience at Work, using the principles of adventurous training to help professionals to build their resilience and leadership skills.   Knowing the challenges that many people (including herself!) face in trying to live adventurously amongst the many commitments in their lives, Nicki was motivated to launch The Everyday Adventure Podcast in May 2020. The aim was to share the stories of ordinary people who had managed to find time for their own adventures - both physical and psychological - and hopefully inspire others to do the same. Since then she has spoken to over 65 guests from a wide variety of backgrounds, exploring their motivations, challenges & the benefits they have experienced. Having given a TEDx talk on the subject in January 2022, She is passionate about everyday adventures and the power they have to bring joy, confidence and energy to our daily lives.   New episodes of the Tough Girl Podcast go live every Tuesday at 7am UK time - Subscribe so you don’t miss out.  Support the mission to increase the amount of female role models in the media. Visit www.patreon.com/toughgirlpodcast Thank you.   Show notes Who is Nicki Spending 17 years in the Army Re-training as a Business Psychologist Her love for adventure sports - especially surfing and skiing  Setting up Resilience at Work Her early years growing up Being active but not sporty Doing a ski season Joining the Army before the age of 25 Being taken outside your comfort zone and how that has developed resilience  What is resilience? Why resilience is different from grit Making the transition out of the army Wanting to work for herself  Starting out with a plan and how it evolves Balancing a new business, family life and adventure sports Adjusting her expectations  Adventuring with children and teaching them resilience Why everything can be an adventure for kids Putting yourself first  Dealing with the guilt of putting yourself first Figuring out her time 1 month of everyday adventures in 2021 Having something to look forward to Starting the Everyday Adventure Podcast Working with Fran Turauskis (Editor)  How to connect with Nicki Ted Talk -  Final words of advice  Why your adventure is valid - no matter the size Finding a way to start    Social Media Website: www.resiliencework.co.uk Instagram: @resilienceatwork Facebook: @resiliencework Podcast: The Everyday Adventure Podcast TEDx Moseley: The Life Changing Power of Everyday Adventures  

Amanda is an Australian park Ranger whose career has taken her from the turquoise blue coast of South Australia to the broad red deserts of Central Australia and now the subtropical rainforests of the East Coast. She loves having the best job in the world in which she gets the opportunity to fight fires, monitor threatened species, use chainsaws and heavy machinery (aka fun toys), audit and hike long distance trails, occasionally fly across the landscape in a helicopter, and (the greatest privilege of all) work with Traditional Owners looking after Country. Well, that and clean toilets of course, can’t leave that out. Inspired by the many Rangers she has worked with in her career, and with no film making or expedition experience, Amanda set off on a new mission on World Ranger Day (July 31) last year called Walking the Thin Green Line Oceania.  Over 366 days, through 8 nations and across 3 oceans, Amanda will travel over 80,000km meeting Rangers and recording their stories in a documentary.  She will also hike more than 1500km to honour the more than 1500 Rangers killed in the line of duty since official records began in 2009.  Amanda will be raising vital funds for the Thin Green Line Foundation’s Oceania Fund to support Ranger led projects around the Oceania region. Amanda will complete her epic self-funded journey on World Ranger Day this year on the southernmost point of mainland Australia at Wilson’s promontory National Park after more than 35,000km of driving, close to 200 Ranger interviews, more than 25 terabytes of footage, dozens of walking trails and peaks, over 30 flights, more than a dozen boats and ferries, 8 sim cards, 2 Garmin inReach’s and more illnesses than you can count on one hand. *** Don't miss out on new episodes of the Tough Girl Podcast that are released every Tuesday at 7am UK time! Hit the subscribe button to stay updated. By supporting the Tough Girl Podcast on Patreon, you can help increase the representation of female role models in the media especially in the world of adventure and physical challenges. Visit www.patreon.com/toughgirlpodcast to contribute. Thank you for your support! *** Show notes Who is Amanda Working as a Park Ranger on the East Coast of Australia  Being a passionate conservationist  Not being scared of doing her own things Her passion for the environment and getting people excited about it Wanting to encourage women and young girls to pursue their dreams Her early years and growing up wanting to be a geologist  Being sports and enjoying spending time outside  Her journey to becoming a Park Ranger  Starting work as a fine dining chef Learning about the slow food movement in Italy  Being involved in the ‘Youth Food Movement’ 2008  Wanting to do more to contribute to the world Going to The University of Queensland, Brisbane to study Natural Resource Management  Doing a course called - Protected Area Management  Being inspired by Rangers and the work they were doing  South Australian Graduate Ranger Program  What do Park Rangers do - in Western Australia  Walking the thin Green Line  Preparation and planning for the Expedition The Thin Green Line Foundation, Australia  How the idea came about Hiking 1,600km by the end of her journey to reflect on the 1,600 rangers who have lost their lives while serving  The goals for the expedition and what she wants to achieve Spending 366 days on the road  Starting on World Ranger Day - 31st July 2022 and finishing on World Ranger Day 31st July 2023  World Ranger Conference 2024, France  The Route Map  Planning, logistics and financing the expedition Connecting with people and getting tips and advice from film makers Starting with a map, crunching the numbers and figuring out what the weather was doing The challenges and obstacles with planning along the way Only being able to plan a few weeks in advance and dealing with the stress that brings Self funding the challenge and receiving financial support from her sister and other family members Losing sponsorship due to floods in Eastern Australia and needing to make alternative arrangements  Feeling comfortable taking calculated risks Being all in and knowing the financial risks Meeting incredible people on the journey Speaking to Rangers and filming them for the documentary  Visiting Papua New Guinea, Indonesia The connection between rangers What’s going to happen over the next 6 months Having a 3 year plan  Making a documentary about the journey and wanting to share the stories Going back to work full time work in August 2023 The lessons learned from the trip Becoming the first ‘Ranger Ambassador’ for the Thin Green Line Foundation The unique challenges faced by female rangers The importance of having women involved in conservation How to connect with Amanda Final words of advice  Why you should consider working in conservation especially in Protected Area Management   Social Media Website: www.walkingthethingreenline.com  Instagram: @walkingthethingreenline  Facebook: @walkingthethingreenline  The Thin Green Line - “A global not-for-profit organisation that provides support to rangers, because rangers are the frontline professionals protecting wildlife and the natural world. We do this by providing effective training, vital equipment, and emergency support to rangers and their families, and developing strong global networks for rangers and their communities.” Website: thingreenline.org.au     

Anna is an Outdoor Instructor working for Land and Wave in Dorset. She loves being on the water, or in the woods, every day sharing her love of adventure with everyone she instructs.  Anna has always loved being outdoors and wanted to find a job that would allow her to enjoy that all year round. From school, she followed a conventional path to university, and became a Civil Engineer working in construction. Recently she decided to take the leap and turn her passion into a job. It was quite a drastic shift from Engineer in London, to Outdoor Instructor in Dorset, but one she is loving.  She was able to change career so quickly following an intensive Outdoor Instructor Training Course in the winter, where she gained qualifications needed for the job, and is now gaining experience every day. *** Get ready for an exciting month of July on the Tough Girl Podcast, as we shine a spotlight on women working in the outdoors. Sponsored by Land & Wave - join us as we delve into their stories, gain insights, and discover valuable tips from their incredible experiences.  Don't miss out on these empowering episodes released every Tuesday and Thursday at 7am UK time - hit the subscribe button and be part of the adventure! *** Show notes Anna working as a newly qualified Outdoor Instructor  Working for Land & Wave Living in an 8 person tent on site at Land & Wave (excuse the noise from the wind!) Growing up near Birmingham  Being a member of Scouts  Doing Duke of Edinburgh Award  Joining the University Royal Naval Units (URNU)  Taking a gap year after university and going travelling around South East Asia for 4 months  Moving to London to work in construction  Thinking about making a career change and wanting to work outdoors Not knowing what she wanted to do Making the decision to change careers and what that looked like Googling - Outdoor Instructor Training (OIT) Courses  Picking Land & Wave  The challenges of the course and the realities of spending 15 weeks training in winter Dealing with the cold weather  Enjoying spending time on the water and learning new skills (Canoeing, SUP & Kayaking) Loving the variety of the work What happened after the 15 week course Challenges of working in the outdoor industry Sharing her love of the outdoors with clients What it’s like being a woman in the industry Learning new skills and why it take time to build experience  Outdoor Instructor Apprenticeships  Having a long term career plan? Thinking through different options  Why age doesn’t matter Working towards her own personal goals training to become a Paddlesports Leader  Working towards her Mountain Leader (ML) Qualification  Doing her ML training with Louise Tully The struggle with getting Quality Mountain Days (QMD) in while living in Dorset Connecting with other women in the outdoors who are also doing their qualifications  Magical moments  Helping people to build self confidence Why the first step is always the hardest Remembering what it is you love about your job and why it’s important to enjoy the journey and appreciate each stage your at.    Social Media Website: www.landandwave.co.uk Instagram: @landandwave Facebook: @landandwave Youtube: www.youtube.com/@landwave9920

Sian Sykes was born on the edge of Snowdonia and enjoyed growing up in beautiful North Wales. During her adult life, she used to work in Creative Media in London as a Project Director. However after working 15 years and working 18 hour days in the industry, she wanted a better balance in life, to reconnect with nature and to be closer to the sea and mountains.  That's when she re changed her focus in life and moved back home, to do what she loves doing. Now she guides people stand up paddle boarding in beautiful places. Since working in the city, Sian has travelled the world, building up vast experience of leading expeditions to Nepal, Mongolia, India, China, Peru, Morocco and the Alps. Sian loves a SUP challenge! Sian has completed a number of record breaking SUP challenges. She was part of the first team to cross England on a paddle board, she was then the first person to ever SUP solo the 3 British lakes, Llyn Tegid, Windermere Lake and Loch Awe in 3 days, all unsupported. Sian was also the first person to circumnavigate Anglesey on a SUP which took her 5 days to complete the 120km journey in very challenging sea state conditions. Sian is a real activist, Sian’s recent achievement was a big expedition with a real purpose by highlighting the epidemic we face with disposable single use plastics. She was the first person to SUP circumnavigate Wales (solo and unsupported), a 1000km journey along canals, rivers and sea. She raised money for charity, collecting plastic along the way, inspiring others to make a pledge against plastics and educational talks. Sian enjoys linking her love for the water and mountains through SUP. Her love for the outdoors is infectious, and she’s inspired people of all ages and from all walks of life to get out and SUP. *** Get ready for an exciting month of July on the Tough Girl Podcast, as we shine a spotlight on women working in the outdoors. Sponsored by Land & Wave - join us as we delve into their stories, gain insights, and discover valuable tips from their incredible experiences.  Don't miss out on these empowering episodes released every Tuesday and Thursday at 7am UK time - hit the subscribe button and be part of the adventure! *** Show notes Who is Sian Growing up and being introduced to the great outdoors by her mother at 3 weeks old Her love for the outdoors  Her teenage years  Going to university and how she changed  Chasing wealth and status Working in Advertising in Manchester and London  Making a career change after 15 years  Living for work Feeling detached from who she actually was Not feeling fulfilled anymore Wanting to make a U turn  Getting qualification in the outdoors 6 months working in London and 6 months working in the outdoors Separating from her ex-husband  Discovering paddleboarding by chance and loving it Crossing England from Bristol to Reading on a paddle board Gaining experiences and choosing the qualifications The community in Llanberis, Wales  Building up contacts and connections Volunteering in outdoor centres and taking groups on Duke of Edinburgh Award Needing to prove herself  Going after her International Mountain Leader Award which took 3 years to achieve Talking about the financial concerns of making a career change Making the transition into the outdoor industry Stand Up Paddleboarding Adventures and Expeditions SUP around Anglesey  Plastic Pollution in coastal areas Being warned about adventure blues  Starting up her own business and becoming freelance  Finding your passion Surfers Against Sewage - We are Ocean Activists. We are the voice of the ocean. Campaigning for a thriving ocean, thriving people. Anglesey becoming the first county to become plastic free Water Skills Academy (WSA)  WSA - SUP Expedition Guide  Advice for women who want to get more qualifications in the outdoor industry How to connect with Sian Final words of advice for other women who want a career in the outdoors   Social Media Website: www.siansykes.com  Instagram: @sian_sykes  Youtube: www.youtube.com/@psychedpaddleboarding     

In today's fast-paced world, many of us dream of breaking free from the shackles of the corporate world and embracing a life filled with adventure, purpose, and personal fulfilment. Meet Tatty Pettigrew, a courageous woman who made that dream a reality. With an unwavering spirit and a thirst for spending time outdoors, Tatty escaped the confines of her corporate career in London and embarked on a remarkable journey that combines people, education, adventure, and the great outdoors. Growing up, Tatty was sporty but never considered herself particularly outdoorsy. It was during her teenage years that she discovered the transformative power of outdoor adventures while participating in the Duke of Edinburgh Award (DofE). This experience ignited a spark within her, and she became an advocate for the program, recognising its ability to shape young minds and in-still a love for the outdoors. Her journey into the outdoor world began with thorough research and introspection. Tatty wanted to ensure she was making the right decision, and her meticulous nature led her to spend two years weighing her options and considering the potential risks and rewards. Supported and encouraged by her family, she finally found her path. Committing to the Outdoor Instructor Training Course offered by Land & Wave. This intensive 15-week residential program immersed her in the world of outdoor instruction. From coasteering to climbing, she pushed herself outside her comfort zone, developing not only her skills but also her self-confidence. Building a career in the outdoors wasn't without its challenges, but Tatty persevered. Starting as a seasonal instructor, she gained valuable experience in various locations, including New Zealand, where she volunteered for a children's charity. Over time, she transitioned into freelance work, relishing the flexibility it provided. Through dedication and hard work, she built a strong portfolio of clients and established herself in the industry. Tatty Pettigrew's story serves as a powerful reminder that we all have the ability to break free from the ordinary and pursue a life filled with passion and purpose. Her unwavering spirit, determination, and love for the great outdoors exemplify the essence of the Tough Girl Podcast. Join us in celebrating Tatty's remarkable journey and be inspired to create your own path of exploration, challenge, and transformation. *** Get ready for an exciting month of July on the Tough Girl Podcast, as we shine a spotlight on women working in the outdoors. Sponsored by Land & Wave - join us as we delve into their stories, gain insights, and discover valuable tips from their incredible experiences.  Don't miss out on these empowering episodes released every Tuesday and Thursday at 7am UK time - hit the subscribe button and be part of the adventure! *** Show notes Who is Tatty Living in Dartmouth, Devon for the past 3 years Working as an outdoor instructor Growing up, being sporty but not outdoorsy Doing Duke of Edinburgh Award (DofE) in her teenage years and why she’s a massive advocate for it now Deciding to give up her corporate career in London and retrain as an outdoor instructor  Experiencing the outdoors during a team building day at work Finding out about Outdoor Instructor Training Course Attending an Open Day with Land & Wave  The questions and concerns before making the decision  The fear of making a mistake and doing the wrong thing Researching and thinking for about 2 years before making the final decision. Doing the Clipper Round the World Yacht Race Exploring all of her options for getting into the outdoors Her process for making decisions  Trying to figure out what the right option is  Being an over thinker and suffering from ‘analysis paralysis’  Being supported and encouraged by her family  How the pandemic impacted on her decision making  What the Outdoor Instructor Training Course looked like  15 weeks, full time residential (including food & accommodation), kit package, and training Monday to Friday 9 to 5pm  Building up experience during the summer months  Enjoying all the waterspouts especially coasteering  The challenges of climbing and being pushed outside her comfort zone The challenges of training over the cold winter months (Oct - Feb) and being lucky with the weather Working as a volunteer for a children’s charity in New Zealand (food and accommodation covered) Not being able to move to New Zealand due to lockdown. Building up a career in the outdoors and what that looks like Starting off as a seasonal instructor and doing seasonal work in New Zealand Branching out into the freelance work and being able to get plenty of work Enjoying the flexibility of freelance work  Building up her portfolio of clients over the past few years Working hard during the season April - October Using the winter time to work on gaining new skills and focusing on Continuing Professional Development (CPD)  What it’s like being a woman in the outdoors  Being surrounded by good female role models in the industry  The women who’ve inspired Tatty on her journey Anna McNuff  Sue Barrett - Adventure Queen Mother follow on IG @adventurequeenmother Getting the balance right between work and personal time Working towards her Mountain Leader Qualification Sea Kayaking Leader Qualification  Forest School Leader  Volunteering with the Lifeboat Crew for The Royal National Lifeboat Institution (RNLI)  Discussing, the potential for injury, the wear and tear on your body as you get older, and the potential impact of motherhood on your outdoor career Moving from the steady pay check from the corporate world to being freelance and being self employed Financial stress? Especially during the winter months when there isn’t as much work. Keeping track of finances, being planned and organised.  Doing the last two legs of the Clipper Round the World Yacht Race Spending 3 months sailing from Seattle to London    Making friends for life and why the people made the challenge How to connect with Tatti on Instagram The 3 words which resonate - Explore. Challenge. Transform.   Social Media Instagram: @tatti.pettigrew