

Facts vs Feelings with Ryan Detrick & Sonu Varghese
Carson Investment Research
This podcast takes a deep dive into the market-moving events to cut through the noise and help you identify what really matters. Facts vs Feelings is hosted by Chief Market Strategist, Ryan Detrick and VP, Global Macro Strategist, Sonu Varghese, and is a product of the Carson Investment Research Team.The information included herein is for informational purposes and is intended for use by advisors only, and should not be copied, reproduced, or re-distributed without the consent of CWM, LLC. Carson Partners offers investment advisory services through CWM, LLC, an SEC Registered Investment Advisor. Carson Coaching and CWM, LLC are separate but affiliated companies and wholly-owned subsidiaries of Carson Group Holdings, LLC. Carson Coaching does not provide advisory services.
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Feb 21, 2024 • 48min
Did the Economy Actually Slow Down? (Ep. 73)
Ryan Detrick and Sonu Varghese analyze economic indicators, market trends, and inflation metrics to assess the pace of economic growth. They discuss stock market performance, inflation trends, retail sales, and industrial production data, comparing the current economic slowdown with previous years. The podcast provides insights into GDP growth, income trends, and the impact of younger generations on historical progress.

Feb 14, 2024 • 48min
Talking about Bitcoin ETFs with Matt Hougan (Ep. 72)
Bitcoin ETFs are one of the most anticipated and debated developments in the crypto space. What are the implications for the market, the economy, and crypto's future? In this episode, Ryan Detrick, Chief Market Strategist at Carson Group & Sonu Varghese, VP, Global Macro Strategist at Carson Group, speak with Matthew Hougan, Chief Investment Officer at Bitwise Asset Management about the impact of Bitcoin ETFs on the market, offering a new investment avenue. They explore Bitcoin's role as an asset class or currency within traditional portfolios. Ryan and Sonu also cover the CPI data, its implications for inflation, and market expectations.Listen to the episode to learn about:The Consumer Price Index (CPI) dataThe stock market’s performance, historical seasonality, and the likelihood of a market pullbackThe increase in household net worth and credit card debt, highlighting the overall financial situation of consumersThe significance of Bitcoin ETF approval and its impact on financial advisors and investorsFund flows from GBTC to new Bitcoin ETFsAdding Bitcoin to portfolios, its historical returns, volatility, and the potential benefits for investorsThe likelihood of Ethereum ETFsShort-term and long-term drivers of Bitcoin’s valueAnd more!Resources:Any questions about the show? Send it to us! We’d love to hear from you! factsvsfeelings@carsongroup.com Connect with Matthew Hougan: LinkedIn: Matthew HouganX: Matt Hougan Bitwise Asset ManagementConnect with Ryan Detrick: LinkedIn: Ryan DetrickConnect with Sonu Varghese: LinkedIn: Sonu VargheseAbout Our Guest:Matt Hougan is a well-known expert in the fields of cryptocurrency, ETFs, and financial technology. He currently serves as the Chief Investment Officer at Bitwise Asset Management, which is the world's largest provider of cryptocurrency index funds and manages over $1.5 billion in assets.Before this, he was the CEO of ETF.com and Inside ETFs. During his tenure, he played a key role in developing the world's first ETF data and analytics system, the most popular ETF media platform, and the world's largest ETF conference.Matt serves as a board member for Equbot and is also a strategic advisor to several startups related to cryptocurrency and financial advising, such as Blockworks, Stratifi, and Exchange. He co-founded Advisor Circle, which is a product and content studio for the financial industry and also created the Futureproof Wealth Festival.

Feb 7, 2024 • 48min
Let the Good Times Roll (Ep. 71)
From the stock market hitting all-time highs to new tax bills, positive economic indicators, and even the Super Bowl, there's a lot to keep track of when it comes to finance and investing this week!In this episode, Ryan Detrick, Chief Market Strategist at Carson Group & Sonu Varghese, VP, Global Macro Strategist at Carson Group, provide an in-depth analysis of current economic indicators, including jobs, productivity, and consumer confidence. They also touch on the potential for a stock market breather in February amidst election buzz. Additionally, they examine a new tax bill that could inject more money into the economy and give the stock market a boost. Ryan and Sonu discuss: The stock market hitting all-time highs, historical February performance, and potential market consolidationA bipartisan tax bill moving through Congress and its potential impact on business and individual financesAn analysis of the Super Bowl indicator and its historical correlation with stock market performanceThe Fed's approach to potential rate cuts and market expectationsA comparison of income-driven and credit-driven economic cycles and their impacts on the economyAn analysis of the strong job market report and consumer confidence dataThe importance of productivity in driving positive economic outcomes And more!Resources:Any questions about the show? Send it to us! We’d love to hear from you! factsvsfeelings@carsongroup.com Connect with Ryan Detrick: LinkedIn: Ryan DetrickConnect with Sonu Varghese: LinkedIn: Sonu Varghese

Jan 31, 2024 • 46min
Unpacking a Mega Week (Ep. 70)
The stock market has been on a remarkable run, reaching new highs and defying expectations. But what are the drivers behind this rally, and what are the risks ahead? In this episode, Ryan Detrick, Chief Market Strategist at Carson Group & Sonu Varghese, VP, Global Macro Strategist at Carson Group, analyze recent market trends, including the stock market's highs and the implications of the upcoming Fed meeting. They explore the significance of January's market performance, particularly in the financial sector, as an indicator for the year's outlook. Additionally, they cover the recent GDP report, offering insights into the economy's trajectory.Ryan and Sonu discuss: The positive implications of the market making new highs and its historical performancePotential factors that could disrupt the bullish market trajectoryThe significance of January performance and its potential impact on the market for the rest of the yearForecasting the Fed’s decision and its potential impact on the marketThe strong fourth quarter GDP growth, consumption, and investment spending, and its implications on the economyComparison of nominal GDP growth in the US and ChinaAnd more!Resources:Any questions about the show? Send it to us! We’d love to hear from you! factsvsfeelings@carsongroup.com Facts Vs. Feelings Ep. 69 - Can You Take Me HigherConnect with Ryan Detrick: LinkedIn: Ryan DetrickConnect with Sonu Varghese: LinkedIn: Sonu Varghese

Jan 24, 2024 • 48min
Can You Take Me Higher (Ep. 69)
Now that the stock market has reached its all-time high, what can we expect?Which ways can the latest economic indicators and international markets affect us?In this episode, Ryan Detrick, Chief Market Strategist at Carson Group & Sonu Varghese, VP, Global Macro Strategist at Carson Group, dive into the stock market's recent all-time highs and their implications for investors. They also cover the importance of manufacturing and high-tech industries for the economy. Additionally, they examine global economic factors, including China's influence on markets and the comparative strengths of the US economy.Ryan and Sonu discuss: Historical data on all-time highs, patterns of all-time highs over the years, and the likelihood of continued all-time highsAnalysis of the increase in consumer confidenceAn analysis of retail salesThe importance of manufacturing for the economy, including high-paying jobs and the impact on supply chainsThe positive trends in high-tech production and its impact on the economyThe impact of Taiwan Semiconductor's growth on the semiconductor market and its implications for investorsThe impact of geopolitical tensions on the stock markets, particularly in Taiwan and ChinaThe impact of China's economic slowdown on global marketsA Comparison of the growth rates of the US and China economiesThe potential momentum in small and mid-cap stocks and the significance of GDP growthAnd more!Resources:Any questions about the show? Send it to us! We’d love to hear from you! factsvsfeelings@carsongroup.com Connect with Ryan Detrick: LinkedIn: Ryan DetrickConnect with Sonu Varghese: LinkedIn: Sonu Varghese

Jan 17, 2024 • 49min
The Little Things May Add Up (Ep. 68)
The world is facing unprecedented challenges and opportunities in 2024. From geopolitical tensions and trade wars to technological innovations and environmental issues.How can investors navigate these times? How will the emergence of cryptocurrencies and digital assets affect the financial system and regulation? In this episode, Ryan Detrick, Chief Market Strategist at Carson Group & Sonu Varghese, VP, Global Macro Strategist at Carson Group, explore the economic outlook and global issues. They also dive into the implications of Bitcoin ETFs, volatility, and risk tolerance in cryptocurrency markets. Additionally, they touch on inflation and rates, referencing the CPI and PPI, the M2 concerns, and the male labor participation rate.Ryan and Sonu discuss: The geopolitical scene, focusing on the Red Sea issues and the impact on global shipping and oil pricesThe recent election in Taiwan and the potential impact on ChinaThe drama surrounding the Bitcoin ETF approvalAn analysis of inflation data, including CPI and PPI, and its impact on potential rate cuts by the FedThe significance of M2 being negative year over year and its potential impact on the economyThe male labor participation rate and its comparison to historical levelsThe beginning of earnings season, bank performance, and significant developments in the aviation and technology sectorsAnd more!Resources:Any questions about the show? Send it to us! We’d love to hear from you! factsvsfeelings@carsongroup.com Connect with Ryan Detrick: LinkedIn: Ryan DetrickConnect with Sonu Varghese: LinkedIn: Sonu Varghese

Jan 10, 2024 • 45min
Welcome to Our 2024 Outlook (Ep. 67)
With signals of growth faced against global uncertainties, what can we expect from the global economy in 2024?How will these factors affect the performance of various sectors and markets, and what strategies can investors adopt to navigate this year? In this episode, Ryan Detrick, Chief Market Strategist at Carson Group & Sonu Varghese, VP, Global Macro Strategist at Carson Group, share their 2024 outlook on the economy and stock market. They analyze the surprises from 2023 and explain why there is still no likelihood of a recession. Additionally, they explore potential Fed rate cuts and provide an outlook for bonds, housing, manufacturing, and fixed income strategies.Ryan and Sonu discuss: Surprises and trends from 2023, including economic growth and employment gainsThe main drivers to avoid a recessionThe current labor market, job creation, unemployment rate, and wage growthProductivity's impact on economic growth and the outlook for 2024The likelihood of future rate cuts by the Federal Reserve and their potential impact on the economyThe outlook for stocks and bonds in 2024The influence of housing demand, supply, and interest rates, as well as the impact of fiscal policy on manufacturing and constructionThe market's historical performance in midterm and pre-election yearsThe strength in small and mid-cap stocksAnd more!Resources:Any questions about the show? Send it to us! We’d love to hear from you! factsvsfeelings@carsongroup.com Connect with Ryan Detrick: LinkedIn: Ryan DetrickConnect with Sonu Varghese: LinkedIn: Sonu Varghese

Jan 3, 2024 • 36min
Welcome to ’24! (Ep. 66)
Happy New Year and welcome to the very first Facts vs Feelings episode of 2024!In this episode, Ryan Detrick, Chief Market Strategist at Carson Group & Sonu Varghese, VP, Global Macro Strategist at Carson Group analyze market trends and the outlook for 2024. They discuss the recent market rally, the role of inflation and the Federal Reserve, and the potential for continued growth, especially in small and mid-cap stocks. They explore economic cycle indicators, the impact of inflation and rate cuts, and the unpredictability of market returns. Forecasts for the S&P 500 are debated, with a focus on the likelihood of higher gains despite the challenges of accurate predictions.Ryan and Sonu discuss: Market trends and potential outlook for 2024Factors contributing to the recent market rallyPerformance of small and mid-cap stocksThe significance of small-cap industriesEarly versus late economic cycle indicatorsImpact of inflation and rate cuts on market performanceForecasts for the S&P 500 for 2024Likelihood of positive returns in the marketThe importance of understanding odds and adjusting investment strategiesAnd more!Resources:Any questions about the show? Send it to us! We’d love to hear from you! factsvsfeelings@carsongroup.com Connect with Ryan Detrick: LinkedIn: Ryan DetrickConnect with Sonu Varghese: LinkedIn: Sonu Varghese

Dec 20, 2023 • 32min
Discussing NDR's 2024 Outlook with Ed Clissold (Ep. 65)
With 2024 just around the corner, there are big uncertainties for the U.S. economy regarding inflation, interest rates, political uncertainty, and a possible recession.How can investors navigate this complex and volatile environment? What are the sectors to look at? In this episode, Ryan Detrick, Chief Market Strategist at Carson Group & Sonu Varghese, VP, Global Macro Strategist at Carson Group, chat with Ed Clissold, Chief U.S. Strategist at Ned Davis Research, to explore the 2024 economic outlook of Ned Davis Research. They discuss the effects of the political uncertainty, what sectors to watch in 2024, the possibility of a shift towards small and mid-cap stocks and the implications of higher short-term interest rates. Additionally, they touch on the labor market, the Fed, and the possibility of a recession.Together they discuss: Ed’s over 20 years at NDR, emphasizing the collaborative and data-driven approachWhether the Fed can successfully achieve a soft landing for the economy and the potential turbulence aheadThe chance of a recession and the factors contributing to this riskThe political implications for the Fed's decision-making processThe importance of considering both soft data and hard data in analyzing the economy and the mixed signals they provideThe historical market performance during presidential election yearsThe potential rotation towards small and mid-cap stocksJerome Powell's performance as the Fed ChairThe favored sectors and the underweighted sectors for the upcoming yearAnd more!Resources:Any questions about the show? Send it to us! We’d love to hear from you! factsvsfeelings@carsongroup.com Connect with Ed Clissold: Twitter: @edclissoldLinkedIn: Ed ClissoldNed Davis Research Connect with Ryan Detrick: LinkedIn: Ryan DetrickConnect with Sonu Varghese: LinkedIn: Sonu VargheseAbout our guest:Ed Clissold, CFA, is the Chief U.S. Strategist for Ned Davis Research Group. He and his team are responsible for the firm’s U.S. equity, style, sector, and equity theme analysis. They do so via a combination of a top-down analysis of the macroeconomic and fundamental environments and a bottom-up analysis of factors specific to the asset class, market cap, style, sector, or theme. He and his team also provide in-depth macro research on fundamental topics such as earnings, dividends, and cash flow.Ed writes several U.S. Strategy publications, which provide an intermediate-term outlook on U.S. markets via a combination of top-down and bottom-up analyses. He also writes a quarterly Benchmarks report, which analyzes the attribution of returns across asset classes, sectors, market cap, and styles. Ed has held a number of other positions since joining the firm in 2002, including Global Equity Strategist, Senior Global Analyst in the Global Asset Allocation group, and Analyst in the Custom Research Services department. Previously, Ed worked at Strong Capital Management and as a Market Strategist at J.C. Bradford & Co.

Dec 13, 2023 • 36min
Good News is Good News (Ep. 64)
The U.S. economy has been showing signs of strength, despite the challenges posed by the pandemic and ever-evolving global uncertainties. One of the most encouraging indicators is the unemployment rate, which fell to 3.7% in November.What does this mean for the markets? What is the outlook for 2024?In this episode, Ryan Detrick, Chief Market Strategist at Carson Group & Sonu Varghese, VP, Global Macro Strategist at Carson Group, explore the current state of the economy and job market, inflation, and market performance. They address the good news of the unemployment drop, the Federal Reserve's approach to inflation, and the positive outlook for investors in 2024.Ryan and Sonu discuss: The positive trends in the job market, highlighting the recent good news in employment numbersThe significance of the JOLTS report, highlighting Jerome Powell's concern over openings per unemployed workerThe recent decrease in used car prices and its potential impact on inflationThe current state of inflation and the Fed's decision to keep rates high, with speculation on potential rate cuts in the futureWhy small caps and mid-caps have been outperformingThe positive stock market indicatorsAn anticipation for the Fed meeting and the discussion on potential rate cuts for 2024, as well as the upcoming CPI reportAnd more!Resources:Any questions about the show? Send it to us! We’d love to hear from you! factsvsfeelings@carsongroup.com Connect with Ryan Detrick: LinkedIn: Ryan DetrickConnect with Sonu Varghese: LinkedIn: Sonu Varghese


