
Talking Tokens
Talking Tokens is a podcast focused on interviewing the best crypto leaders, startups, market players and up-and-coming founders that are changing the industry.
Join Jacquelyn Melinek, an award-nominated host and seasoned crypto journalist-turned-entrepreneur, to dive into the best talks in crypto in an easy-to-understand way.
The episodes will air every Tuesday and Thursday on YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, X and more.
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Latest episodes

Oct 17, 2024 • 44min
Raza Zaidi & Sandy Peng | A Blockchain For Fast Finality
On today’s Talking Tokens episode, Jacquelyn interviewed Scroll’s Co-founder Sandy Peng and Head of Growth Raza Zaidi. They talk about building an L2 in a competitive landscape, growth metrics and how the chain has evolved since its mainnet in 2023, ZK technology’s role in the broader ecosystem and more.
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Please note that this podcast is for informational purposes only and any views shared by anyone on the show are opinions, not financial advice. The host or guests may have a direct or indirect financial interest in content mentioned in this episode.

Oct 15, 2024 • 39min
Asher Genoot | The Future of Bitcoin Mining
On today’s Talking Tokens episode, Jacquelyn interviewed Asher Genoot, CEO of Hut 8.They talk about Hut 8 being publicly traded, IPOs, bitcoin mining needing a new name, data centers and the role AI can play in them, among other topics.
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Please note that this podcast is for informational purposes only and any views shared by anyone on the show are opinions, not financial advice. The host or guests may have a direct or indirect financial interest in content mentioned in this episode.

Oct 10, 2024 • 53min
David Nage | Crypto Investing In 2024 Market and Beyond
On today’s Talking Tokens episode, Jacquelyn interviewed David Nage, venture capital PM at Arca and the host of the Base Layer Podcast. They talk about David’s extensive career in the digital asset world, his VC outlook, how he views the market as a long-term investor, whether or not AI is overhyped, how NFTs can be useful in the future and more.
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Oct 8, 2024 • 44min
Alexei Zamyatin | The Case For Building On Bitcoin
On today’s Talking Tokens episode, Jacquelyn interviewed Alexei Zamyatin, cofounder of Build on Bitcoin (BOB). They talk about hybrid layer-2 blockchains, BoB using the OP Stack, what role the chain wants to play in merging Ethereum and Bitcoin ecosystems, the current state of DeFi on Bitcoin and more.
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Oct 3, 2024 • 35min
Chiente Hsu | Here's What It's Like To Build a Bitcoin DEX
On today’s Talking Tokens episode, Jacquelyn interviewed Chiente Hsu, co-founder and CEO of Alex, a Bitcoin DeFi-focused platform. They talk about her journey from TradFi to DeFi, building a Bitcoin-focused DEX, how institutions and traditional market players are entering the space and more.
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Oct 1, 2024 • 19min
Michael Sonnenshein | Former Grayscale CEO on Bitcoin ETF, Crypto IPOs & Future Outlook
On today’s Talking Tokens episode, we’re sharing a fireside chat Jacquelyn moderated with Michael Sonnenshein, former CEO of Grayscale and long-time crypto veteran, at Messari Mainnet. They discuss his 10+ years at Grayscale, his outlook on spot bitcoin ETFs, institutional adoption, the IPO market for crypto, and what he’s up to now.
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Sep 26, 2024 • 38min
Philip Martin | Coinbase Plans To Keep Your Crypto Safe
On today’s Talking Tokens episode, Jacquelyn Melinek is joined by Coinbase Chief Security Officer Philip Martin. Jacquelyn and Philip talk about security in crypto, the most common – and uncommon – scams and how to avoid them, what Coinbase is doing to stay safe and more.
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Sep 24, 2024 • 51min
Dan Reecer & Robinson Burkey | Wormhole’s Era3 Upgrade & Future Roadmap
On today’s Talking Tokens episode, Jacquelyn Melinek is joined by Wormhole Foundation cofounders Dan Reecer and Robinson Burkey. They talk about Wormhole’s focus on interoperability, its latest Era3 upgrade and what it means for developers, enterprise businesses, institutions and DeFi, as well as the team’s long term road map.
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Sep 19, 2024 • 17min
Avery Ching on Tips To Scale Blockchains & 2025 Aptos Outlook
On today’s Talking Tokens episode, we’re resharing an in-person fireside chat Jacquelyn Melinek did with Avery Ching, the co-founder and CTO of Aptos Labs. During the Aptos Experience event in Seoul, South Korea, Jacquelyn and Avery talked about what infrastructure is important when building and scaling a blockchain, creating and finding new use cases within the Aptos ecosystem and its future outlook for 2025, among other things.
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Sep 17, 2024 • 40min
Michael Kong on Sonic Labs’ Big Bet on Airdrop & Mainnet Launch
On today’s Talking Tokens episode, Jacquelyn Melinek is joined by Michael Kong, CEO and CIO of Sonic Labs (previously Fantom). Jacquelyn and Michael talk about Sonic’s rebrand and upcoming chain launch, what developers want, how it plans to bring in more users, its upcoming airdrop and more.
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