
Talking Tokens
Talking Tokens is a podcast focused on interviewing the best crypto leaders, startups, market players and up-and-coming founders that are changing the industry.
Join Jacquelyn Melinek, an award-nominated host and seasoned crypto journalist-turned-entrepreneur, to dive into the best talks in crypto in an easy-to-understand way.
The episodes will air every Tuesday and Thursday on YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, X and more.
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Latest episodes

Jan 7, 2025 • 38min
Michael Heinrich | Why AI Agents Will Change Everything
On today’s Talking Tokens episode, Jacquelyn interviewed Michael Heinrich, co-founder of Zero Gravity Labs, also known as 0G Labs. Zero Gravity Labs is building a decentralized AI Operating System (dAIOS) and has over 200 investors across its $40 million seed round and $35 million pre-seed round. Jacquelyn and Michael discuss into the importance of creating decentralized AI systems, the popularity of AI Agents and how they can change the way society interacts with the technology, growth opportunities for AI x crypto in 2025 and more.
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Please note that this podcast is for informational purposes only and any views shared by anyone on the show are opinions, not financial advice. The host or guests may have a direct or indirect financial interest in content mentioned in this episode.

Jan 2, 2025 • 38min
Julian Holguin | Doodles Is Making NFTs Mainstream
On today’s Talking Tokens episode, Jacquelyn sat down with Julian Holguin, CEO of Doodles. We discuss how Julian transitioned from being the president at Billboard to CEO of Doodles, the NFT collection expanding its brand beyond crypto and creating valuable partnerships with companies like McDonalds, Crocs, Adidas and more.
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Please note that this podcast is for informational purposes only and any views shared by anyone on the show are opinions, not financial advice. The host or guests may have a direct or indirect financial interest in content mentioned in this episode.

Dec 31, 2024 • 41min
Mike Giampapa | What’s Next for Crypto in 2025? Payments, Investments, & Beyond
On today’s Talking Tokens episode, Jacquelyn sat down with Mike Giampapa, general partner at Galaxy Ventures. They talked about crypto payments, emerging opportunities in different regions, what he’s watching as an investor and his outlook for 2025.
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Dec 19, 2024 • 42min
Nicolas Pouard | How Ubisoft Is Shaping The Future of Web3 Gaming
On today’s Talking Tokens episode, Jacquelyn interviewed Nicolas Pouard, VP of Ubisoft’s Strategic Innovation Lab. Ubisoft is one of the largest video game publishers that created Assassin’s Creed, Just Dance and many other games. It has forayed into the web3 gaming space and Nicolas is one of the individuals internally helping expand operations on that front. We talk about Ubisoft’s crypto gaming strategy, appealing to mainstream gamers, how it overcame previous web3 failures from the last market cycle and more.
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NOTE: There will be no podcasts coming out on December 24 or 26 as we take a brief holiday break. If you’re celebrating, we wish you an early Merry Christmas! And don’t worry, we’ll be rolling out episodes again on NYE and into the New Year.
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Please note that this podcast is for informational purposes only and any views shared by anyone on the show are opinions, not financial advice. The host or guests may have a direct or indirect financial interest in content mentioned in this episode.

Dec 17, 2024 • 43min
Austin King & Tyler Tarsi | Omni Mainnet Wants to Unite All Chains
On today’s Talking Tokens episode, Jacquelyn sat down with Omni CEO Austin King and CTO Tyler Tarsi. We dive into why they co-founded Omni, its recent mainnet launch and how the network wants to help fix Ethereum and chain fragmentation. We also talk about what it’s like building a crypto business in the US and their 2025 outlook.
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Dec 12, 2024 • 44min
Rennick Palley | Investment Case for Memecoins
On today’s Talking Tokens episode, Jacquelyn sat down with Rennick Palley, founding partner at Stratos. They talk a lot about Stratos’ early investment in memecoins like Dogwifhat and GOAT, what can make a good meme into a successful memecoin, as well as his crypto VC outlook, investing in crypto founders, building in the US and more.
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Dec 10, 2024 • 52min
Alix Musset | How Aptos Builds Its Ecosystem
On today’s Talking Tokens episode, Jacquelyn sat down with Alix Musset, Aptos Labs’ Ecosystem Success Manager. They discuss how Alix got into web3 (and worked with famous musician The Weeknd), her growth strategy for expanding the Aptos ecosystem, what other blockchains are getting right and wrong when it comes to ecosystem engagement and more.
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Dec 5, 2024 • 47min
Nate Holiday | Building a Decentralized Data Warehouse
On today’s Talking Tokens episode, Jacquelyn interviewed Nate Holiday, the co-founder, president and CEO at Space and Time. We discuss Space and Time’s role in indexing data across a number of blockchains like Ethereum, Bitcoin, Polygon, Avalanche, Sei and Aptos. We also dive into why AI integration into blockchain technology is important, how Nate sees the sector evolving and more.
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Dec 3, 2024 • 23min
Brad Garlinghouse | Ripple CEO On Why XRP Is Taking Over
On today’s Talking Tokens episode, we're sharing a fireside chat with Ripple CEO Brad Garlinghouse. Jacquelyn recorded this conversation with Brad on stage at Korea Blockchain Week about 3 months ago. But, we thought it would still be timely since Ripple’s XRP token is the talk of the town right now, as it is up over 80% in the past seven days and 440% in the last month. Although the crypto market moves fast, a lot of this is still relevant. We discuss XRP, the SEC, crypto market trends and regional differences, Ripple's business operations, institutional adoption, the team’s plan for its stablecoin issuance and more. If you’re a Ripple fan, want to know more about Ripple or are just an avid listener, this one is for you. Hope you all enjoy.
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Nov 26, 2024 • 37min
Jason Zhao | Story is Building A Blockchain To Monetize Your IP
On today’s Talking Tokens episode, Jacquelyn sat down with Jason Zhao, co-founder of Story. They discuss the origin of Story, why IP is so important for content creators, users and businesses to own, how the blockchain plans to play a role in that post-mainnet and more.
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