

Talking Tokens
Jacquelyn Melinek, Token Relations
Talking Tokens is a podcast focused on interviewing the best crypto leaders, startups, market players and up-and-coming founders that are changing the industry.
Join Jacquelyn Melinek, an award-nominated host and seasoned crypto journalist-turned-entrepreneur, to dive into the best talks in crypto in an easy-to-understand way.
The episodes will air every Tuesday and Thursday on YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, X and more.
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Join Jacquelyn Melinek, an award-nominated host and seasoned crypto journalist-turned-entrepreneur, to dive into the best talks in crypto in an easy-to-understand way.
The episodes will air every Tuesday and Thursday on YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, X and more.
For more updates, subscribe to the Talking Tokens newsletter here: https://talkingtokens.beehiiv.com/
Follow us on X: https://twitter.com/_TalkingTokens
Episodes
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May 27, 2025 • 33min
Stani Kulechov | Inside Aave’s New Plan to Scale DeFi Beyond Billions
Today’s episode is a fireside chat Jacquelyn recorded with Stani Kulechov, founder of Aave Labs, while at the Avalanche Summit in London last week. They discuss Aave V4, the latest architectural upgrade, for the largest DeFi protocol. Stani also explains how this new model can unlock more for lending protocols, his insights on the changing DeFi landscape and more.

May 22, 2025 • 21min
Chris Pavlovski | Tether’s $775M Bet on Rumble: The Future of Free Speech & Bitcoin
Today we’re sharing Jacquelyn’s fireside chat with Chris Pavlovski, founder and CEO of Rumble, at Consensus 2025. Rumble is a video, streaming and cloud-based tech company that closed a $775M strategic investment from Tether in February. We discuss Rumble’s journey fighting censorship to protect free speech globally, how it’s pushing into the crypto space and bringing the asset class to creators, how decentralization ties into the business’ mission and more.===============You can subscribe to the podcast on Spotify, Apple or Youtube. If you like the show, please let us know by leaving a review!===============Note that this podcast is for informational purposes only and any views shared by anyone on the show are opinions, not financial advice. The host or guests may have a direct or indirect financial interest in content mentioned in this episode.

May 20, 2025 • 40min
Chris Osborn | This Solana Startup Is Finally Making Crypto Easy to Use
Chris Osborn, CEO of Dialect, is on a mission to make cryptocurrency user-friendly. With a background in physics and quantum computing, he discusses the launch of ‘blinks’ for streamlined blockchain interactions. Osborn emphasizes the critical need for improved user experiences in crypto, explaining how innovative strategies, like minimizing clicks and integrating with social media, can transform asset trading. He also sheds light on the challenges of building on Solana and the importance of user trust in the evolving crypto landscape.

May 15, 2025 • 50min
Pranav and Wyatt | Inside VanEck’s Crypto Playbook: From Liquid Funds to Tokenized IPOs
On today’s Talking Tokens episode, Jacquelyn sat down with Pranav Kanade, portfolio manager for digital assets at VanEck, and Wyatt Lonergan the GP of VanEck Ventures VanEck is an asset management firm that has been around since 1955 – and has made strides in the crypto space in recent years with its spot bitcoin ETF HODL, as well as its $40M venture fund that also invests in crypto startups, among other sectors.Pranav and Wyatt share their thoughts on tokenizing liquid vs illiquid assets, the state of memecoins and the general crypto market, how they see value building in the crypto industry, focusing on long term fundamentals and more.Please note that this podcast is for informational purposes only and any views shared by anyone on the show are opinions, not financial advice. The host or guests may have a direct or indirect financial interest in content mentioned in this episode.

May 13, 2025 • 42min
Anthony Scaramucci Thinks Bitcoin Is Going to $500K
Today’s episode is with Anthony Scaramucci, founder and managing partner of SkyBridge and founder and chairman of SALT.We recorded this episode at SALT Bermuda, where asset managers, allocators, institutional players and more are having discussions on digital assets. Anthony shares his latest insights on institutional crypto demand, the current state of crypto adoption, his 20-year company anniversary and more since we last spoke after SALT’s Wyoming Blockchain Symposium in August 2024.

May 8, 2025 • 38min
Michael Sonnenshein | Securitize's COO Shares Why Institutions Like BlackRock Are Tokenizing
On today’s Talking Tokens episode, Jacquelyn sat down with Michael Sonnenshein, chief operating officer at Securitize. Securitize is focused on tokenizing real world assets and bringing finance onchain through tokenized funds. It has partnered with major asset managers like BlackRock, Apollo, Hamilton Lane and KKR.They discuss Securitize’s tokenization focus: honing in on tokenized treasuries, equities and securities. They also dive into stablecoins, bringing finance onchain and how institutions are diving into DeFi.You can subscribe to the podcast on Spotify, Apple or Youtube. If you like the show, please let us know by leaving a review!Note that this podcast is for informational purposes only and any views shared by anyone on the show are opinions, not financial advice. The host or guests may have a direct or indirect financial interest in content mentioned in this episode.

May 6, 2025 • 37min
Rubail Birwadker | How Visa Will Dominate Crypto Payments
Rubail Birwadker, SVP at Visa, shares insights on the company's ambitious journey into the crypto realm. He discusses innovative ways Visa is integrating crypto into traditional payment systems, enhancing security and customer experience. The conversation dives into stablecoin adoption, particularly in Latin America, showcasing a new card aimed at improving financial access. Rubail also touches on the complexities of cross-border transactions and the need for regulatory clarity while reflecting on the balance between career and family in this rapidly evolving industry.

May 1, 2025 • 37min
Nathan Allman | Is 2025 the Year Everything Gets Tokenized?
On today’s Talking Tokens episode, Jacquelyn sat down with Nathan Allman, CEO of Ondo Finance.They discuss bringing finance onchain, how 2025 may be the year of tokenization, what crypto institutions want from TradFi, tokenized treasuries markets and his multichain vision.You can subscribe to the podcast on Spotify, Apple or Youtube. If you like the show, please let us know by leaving a review!Note that this podcast is for informational purposes only and any views shared by anyone on the show are opinions, not financial advice. The host or guests may have a direct or indirect financial interest in content mentioned in this episode.

Apr 29, 2025 • 31min
Ansem Says The Solana Bull Run Will Warm Back Up
Ansem, a notable crypto investor, former amateur boxer, and co-founder of Bullpen, shares his unique perspective on the cryptocurrency landscape. He discusses the importance of authenticity in building a brand on crypto Twitter and the impact of key opinion leaders in the space. Ansem also evaluates the current state of Solana and overall market conditions, expressing cautious optimism about future trends. Insights on the complexities of meme coins versus utility tokens provide listeners with a deeper understanding of this evolving industry.

Apr 24, 2025 • 38min
Jeff Zirlin | What Web3 Games Get Wrong (And How Ronin Plans to Fix It)
On today’s Talking Tokens episode, Jacquelyn sat down with Jeff Zirlin, co-founder of Sky Mavis. They discuss Ronin’s recent expansion to open up its gaming blockchain, Axie Infinity’s 2021 popularity and lessons from that era, the importance of tokenomics in web3 games and more.You can subscribe to the podcast on Spotify, Apple or Youtube. If you like the show, please let us know by leaving a review!Note that this podcast is for informational purposes only and any views shared by anyone on the show are opinions, not financial advice. The host or guests may have a direct or indirect financial interest in content mentioned in this episode.