
The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens
The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens explores money, energy, economy, and the environment with world experts and leaders to understand how everything fits together, and where we go from here.
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May 14, 2025 • 1h 12min
No Economies Without Biodiversity: Why Our Markets Rely on the Complexity of Nature with Thomas Crowther
In this engaging discussion, ecologist Thomas Crowther, founder of Restor, explores the crucial link between biodiversity and economic systems. He emphasizes that biodiversity is not just a number of species, but a vital web of life that maintains ecological stability. Crowther highlights how data can empower individuals and communities to make informed choices for nature's benefit. He discusses the role of forests as carbon sinks and the need for equitable solutions that revive local ecosystems, showcasing the transformative potential of restoring our relationship with the Earth.

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May 9, 2025 • 15min
Social Overshoot? Dunbar’s Number, Real Relationships, and Musical Chairs | Frankly 94
In a world packed with digital connections, loneliness is on the rise. This discussion dives into how technology disrupts meaningful relationships. It highlights Dunbar's number, suggesting there's a limit to the quality of our interactions. Attention is presented as a rare and invaluable gift in our distracted lives. The conversation also examines how oversaturated social networks can backfire and urges a focus on nurturing close bonds. As we face uncertain times, who will be our true support system when the music of life changes?

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May 7, 2025 • 57min
Fragile Electric Grids: Did Renewables Cause the Blackout in Spain? with Pedro Prieto
Pedro Prieto, Vice President of AEREN and co-author of Spain's Photovoltaic Revolution, discusses the recent massive blackout that left millions in Spain and Portugal without power. He explores the fragility of modern electric grids and the impact of renewable energy management. The conversation highlights the balance needed between energy supply and demand, the risks of frequency deviations, and the lessons developed countries can learn from this crisis to improve resilience. Prieto also touches on the social dynamics and community response during such power outages.

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May 2, 2025 • 13min
Information Burnout: Are We Past Peak Sensemaking? | Frankly 93
The discussion dives into the challenge of information overload in today's world. Many feel overwhelmed by constant troubling headlines and crises, leading to a sense of burnout. The host reflects on personal strategies for making sense of this chaos and urges a focus on local engagement and community initiatives. There's a call to learn from past experiences in sensemaking to inspire meaningful change. Ultimately, it emphasizes finding motivation to contribute positively even in uncertain times.

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Apr 30, 2025 • 1h 11min
Sobriété vs Poverty: Preparing for a New Cultural Paradigm with Jean-Marc Jancovici
As economic, political, and environmental pressures continue to reshape our daily choices, it’s becoming increasingly clear that the era of hyper-consumption that defined the past century is no longer sustainable. Recognizing and adapting to this reality represents one of the most profound cultural shifts of our time – requiring collective reflection and cooperation. But just as importantly, how can we recalibrate our personal expectations today in ways that preserve our sense of agency and sufficiency? In this episode, Nate is joined by energy expert and educator Jean-Marc Jancovici, who shares insights from his ongoing work advising governments and the public on the limits of our economic systems amid growing energy and ecological constraints. Together, they discuss the evolving geopolitical landscape between the U.S. and Europe, the distinction between energy sobriéte and poverty, and the role of the elite in leading societal change towards more practical consumption levels. How can we change the way we’re communicating the science behind our predicament, especially as political and economic tensions continue to accelerate? Why is our collective vision of the future so important for preventing political turmoil? Finally, how can we combine technological efficiency with a change in cultural values to create a future that's not just survivable, but meaningfully better than the default? About Jean-Marc Jancovici: Jean-Marc Jancovici is a founding partner of Carbone 4, a Paris based consultancy and data provider specializing in low carbon transition, biodiversity impacts, and physical risks of climate change. He is the founder and president of The Shift Project, a Paris based think tank advocating for a low carbon economy. Jean-Marc Jancovici is also an associate professor at Mines ParisTech, member of the French High Council for the Climate, and (co-)author of 8 books. Most recently, he and Christophe Blain released an American adaptation of their graphic novel, World Without End, which describes why our energy and environmental constraints require us to rethink everything: our energy supply, our economies, and our whole world. Show Notes and More Watch this video episode on YouTube Want to learn the broad overview of The Great Simplification in 30 minutes? Watch our Animated Movie. --- Support The Institute for the Study of Energy and Our Future Join our Substack newsletter Join our Discord channel and connect with other listeners

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Apr 25, 2025 • 28min
Artificial Intelligence - In Service of Life? | Frankly 92
What if the most powerful tool humanity has ever created could either help heal the Earth — or accelerate its unraveling? In this special Earth Week edition of Frankly, Nate delves into what it truly means for a technology or project to be “in service of Life,” using the rapidly evolving landscape of Artificial Intelligence as an example. Like any other tool that humanity has created, AI has the potential to either mitigate humanity’s impact on our planetary home or deepen the ecological crises we face. Nate speculates on the key metrics that might guide AI and other technologies toward goals that support the abundance and vibrancy of all complex life on Earth. In an age overflowing with information, could rethinking our relationships and incentive structures offer a clearer path forward? How can we identify goals that are not in service of Life? Finally, how could a shift in social and cultural values play the most critical part in transforming our human system to be aligned with the rest of the biosphere? (Recorded April 21, 2025) Show Notes and More Watch this video episode on YouTube Want to learn the broad overview of The Great Simplification in 30 minutes? Watch our Animated Movie. --- Support The Institute for the Study of Energy and Our Future Join our Substack newsletter Join our Discord channel and connect with other listeners

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Apr 23, 2025 • 1h 24min
The Neuroscience of Good Journalism: How Constructive Journalism Uses Information to Empower with Maren Urner
Maren Urner, a neuroscientist and professor, delves into the crucial role of constructive journalism in empowering communities and restoring trust in media. She discusses the psychological impacts of negative news consumption on mental health and urges a shift towards balanced narratives. Urner also examines how cognitive biases affect media engagement and highlights the tension between profit motives and journalistic integrity. Ultimately, she advocates for responsible journalism as a catalyst for collective action and positive societal change.

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Apr 18, 2025 • 7min
Unintended Consequences in a Complex World | Frankly 91
In a rapidly changing world, it's crucial to take a systemic view of current events. The discussion dives into how unintended consequences arise from peak oil and climate change, emphasizing the cultural challenges that exacerbate environmental dialogues. Additionally, it highlights the backlash some societal movements face despite decades of progress, urging a science-based approach to decision-making. The conversation reminds us to remain humble and open-minded as we navigate the unpredictable effects of our actions.

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Apr 16, 2025 • 1h 16min
Planetary Insights: How Satellites Could Transform Our Understanding of Earth’s Predicament with Will Marshall
Will Marshall, co-founder and CEO of Planet Labs, shares insights from his journey transitioning from NASA Scientist to leading a company that harnesses satellite technology for environmental monitoring. He discusses how real-time data can illuminate the true impact of human consumption on Earth's systems, highlighting urgent issues like biodiversity loss and methane emissions. Marshall emphasizes the importance of democratizing satellite data for promoting transparency and accountability, while encouraging a cultural shift towards sustainability.

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Apr 11, 2025 • 30min
Living the Change: How TGS Viewers are Transforming Their Lives and Communities
Viewers share their inspiring projects aimed at tackling global challenges, from community education to off-grid living. Personal stories highlight the impact of climate action and sustainability initiatives. Artists emphasize how creativity can promote interconnectedness and environmental awareness. A focus on collective action showcases transformative local practices like sustainable farming and tiny homes. This discussion encourages actionable steps, shifting the perspective on sustainable living from hobby to crucial work in shaping a better future.