

The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens
Nate Hagens
The Great Simplification is a podcast that explores the systems science underpinning the human predicament. Through conversations with experts and leaders hosted by Dr. Nate Hagens, we explore topics spanning ecology, economics, energy, geopolitics, human behavior, and monetary/financial systems. Our goal is to provide a simple educational resource for the complex energetic, physical, and social constraints ahead, and to inspire people to play a role in our collective future. Ultimately, we aim to normalize these conversations and, in doing so, change the initial conditions of future events.
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Jan 16, 2026 • 29min
Technology and Wealth: The Straw, the Siphon, and the Sieve | Frankly 119
Dive into the intriguing relationship between technology and wealth through metaphors of a straw, siphon, and sieve. Discover how technology accelerates resource extraction but often benefits a select few. Explore the idea that true wealth encompasses ecosystems and social trust, not just monetary gain. Nate discusses the dark side of scaling local technological solutions, highlighting examples from agriculture and finance. He raises thought-provoking questions about our values and how we can redirect innovation to prioritize sustainability.

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Jan 14, 2026 • 1h 42min
Why the West Can't Defend Itself: How Material Scarcity Is Reshaping the World Order with Craig Tindale
Craig Tindale, a private investor and materials expert, dives into the vulnerabilities created by decades of offshoring in Western economies. He discusses how low-cost capital favors short-term gains and hampers industrial capacity, emphasizing weakening defense capabilities. Tindale introduces his 'four clocks' framework to illustrate conflicting pressures from consumption, climate urgency, and defense needs. He also addresses AI's role in mining and foresees a shift in labor dynamics as robot ownership rises, pushing society towards resilience and local skills cultivation.

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Jan 9, 2026 • 23min
The Things We Take for Granted | Frankly 118
In a thought-provoking discussion, Nate reflects on the often-overlooked supports in our lives, from health to social connections. He emphasizes that real wealth lies in reliability, rather than material accumulation. The conversation dives into how constant stimulation affects our attention, hinting that embracing boredom could rediscover joy in small moments. Nate warns of ecological stability being taken for granted and urges listeners to contemplate their autonomy in a world that subtly influences choices. It's a call for gratitude and awareness in our fast-paced lives.

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Jan 7, 2026 • 1h 37min
How We've 'Drugified' Our Entire Existence: Dopamine & Addiction In the Digital Age with Anna Lembke
Anna Lembke, a Stanford University professor and bestselling author, dives into the complexities of addiction in a digital world. She discusses how modern environments hijack our brain's dopamine, fostering compulsive behaviors linked to technology and processed foods. Lembke highlights that addiction is a predictable response to societal pressures rather than a personal failing. She also shares practical strategies for reducing addictive tendencies, such as radical honesty and digital etiquette, aiming for a balanced life amidst a culture of instant gratification.

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Dec 19, 2025 • 31min
Behavioral Thermodynamics Part 1: Beyond the 4th Law?
Explore the fascinating intersection of thermodynamics and human behavior. Dive into how life systems create order from chaos and the dangers of prioritizing instant energy. Discover the intriguing idea of a 'fifth law' that suggests self-aware species might choose long-term sustainability over short-term power gains. Delve into the potential for awareness and wisdom to shape our energy choices, while reflecting on capitalism as a natural expression of energy needs. Can consciousness truly alter our drive for energy efficiency?

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Dec 17, 2025 • 27min
End of Year Reflections: Four Years of The Great Simplification with Nate Hagens
Nate reflects on four years of insightful discussions, tackling complex themes like agency, self-care, and societal change. He emphasizes the need for cognitive security in an age of misinformation and fragmentation. Conversations highlight the importance of local autonomy and scaling 'islands of coherence' into broader movements. Nate candidly shares his vulnerabilities and acknowledges limitations while focusing on meaningful progress. He outlines future plans, including educational content and a commitment to ongoing learning in a rapidly changing world.

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Dec 12, 2025 • 23min
Sunk Cost and the Superorganism | Frankly 116
The discussion dives into the concept of sunk cost, highlighting how past investments can trap us in unproductive patterns. It challenges listeners to rethink their identities and futures, emphasizing the need for adaptability in a changing world. Real-life examples, from suburban infrastructure to personal choices, illustrate the far-reaching impact of this phenomenon. Practical steps are offered to break free from these constraints, fostering a mindset of stewardship over our resources and choices, while inspiring a community shift toward resilience.

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Dec 10, 2025 • 1h 7min
Fighting for a Livable Future: Exploring Frontier Climate Interventions with Kelly Erhart
In a thought-provoking discussion, climate philanthropist Kelly Erhart dives into cutting-edge climate research and interventions. As the Director of partnerships at Outlier Projects and co-founder of Project Vesta, she unveils alarming climate feedback loops, like glacier collapse. Kelly highlights innovative strategies beyond mitigation, including oceanic carbon sequestration and the urgent need for interdisciplinary approaches to climate science. She also reflects on the role of AI, the importance of governance in geoengineering, and why embracing systemic thinking is vital for a sustainable future.

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Dec 5, 2025 • 26min
Inflation, Deflation, & Simplification: The 8 Things That Influence Prices | Frankly 115
Discover the intricate forces shaping our prices, from money creation to resource depletion. Explore how technology can both lower costs and shift burdens to energy systems. Uncover the impact of environmental instability on inflation and deflation. Learn about the shifting dynamics of currency trust and the potential for resets in our financial systems. Delve into the challenge of societal complexity and its implications for our future, urging thoughtful planning for the transitions ahead.

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Dec 3, 2025 • 1h 41min
If Anyone Builds It, Everyone Dies: How Artificial Superintelligence Might Wipe Out Our Entire Species with Nate Soares
Nate Soares, an AI safety researcher and president of the Machine Intelligence Research Institute, delves into the existential risks posed by Artificial Superintelligence. He explains how ASI could vastly outcompete humanity in diverse fields, exploring the alignment problem and the unpredictable behaviors of advanced AIs. Soares advocates for global cooperation to monitor AI development and addresses the political and social actions needed to mitigate these dangers. He emphasizes the need for transparency and proactive measures to ensure humanity's survival.


