
The What School Could Be Podcast
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Jun 20, 2023 • 1h 19min
108. The Total Brilliance of Liger Leadership Academy, with Jeff Holte
Fasten your seatbelts, listeners. Jeff Hotle is an innovative, creative educator with 45 years of experience as a teacher, principal, technology director, school director and designer of pioneering learning models. Originally from the United States, Jeff has been living in Qatar, China, the Democratic Republic of Congo, Cambodia and New Zealand working in the field of education since 2006. He has been with Liger Leadership Academy as its Director of Learning since 2013 and is passionate about education and the promise it provides to the learner, the community and the world. (He retired in early 2023.) His goal is to ignite curiosity, inspire a love of learning, and motivate children to fulfill their potential through project-oriented and opportunity-based experiences. Our episodes are edited by the talented Evan Kurohara. Music is provided by my friend and master pianist, Michael Sloan. If you love this episodes please rate the show and give us a review wherever you get your podcasts. Huge thanks to Robert Landau and Lene Jensby Lange for helping coordinate my interview with Jeff.

Jun 11, 2023 • 55min
Big Think: Amplifying Student Voice, with Jennifer D. Klein
This is the fourth in a series of special episodes that come from the Game Changer and Big Think speaker series in the What School Could Be archives. Educators worldwide are striving to connect their students to classrooms and experts in ways that humanize the world while preparing them to thrive in the 21st century. In this re-mixed, re-mastered Game Changer conversation, Jennifer D. Klein, author of The Global Education Guidebook, takes us through the steps and strategies needed to set up equitable global partnerships that benefit all learners, founded in the tenets of global citizenship and global competency. Hosted by What School Could Be’s Susannah Johnson, the Director of Global Curriculum and Coaching Development, and Kapono Ciotti, the Executive Director, this conversation ranges across a number of topics and themes, which will inspire you. A product of experiential project-based education herself, Jennifer D. Klein taught college and high school English and Spanish for nineteen years, including five years in Central America and eleven years in all-girls education. In 2010, Jennifer left teaching to begin Principled Learning Strategies, which provides professional development to support authentic student-driven global learning experiences in schools. She has a broad background in global education and partnership development, student-driven curricular strategies, inclusivity, and experiential, inquiry-driven learning. As a former head of school with extensive international experience, Jennifer facilitates dynamic, interactive workshops for teachers, leaders and students, working to amplify student voice, to provide the tools for high-quality project-based learning in all cultural and socio-economic contexts, and to shift school culture to support such practices. Jennifer is also committed to intersecting global project-based learning with culturally-responsive and anti-racist teaching practices, and her experience includes deep work with schools seeking to address equity, take on brave conversations, build healthier communities, and improve identity politics on campus. Jennifer’s first book, The Global Education Guidebook, was published in 2017, and her second book, The Landscape Model of Learning, co-authored with Kapono Ciotti, was released in July, 2022.

Jun 5, 2023 • 1h 9min
107. John Nash: Brilliant Education Designer, Thought Leader and Human Being
This episode covers a wide range of issues in education, most notably design thinking and generative AI. John B. Nash is an associate professor in the Department of Educational Leadership Studies at the University of Kentucky. He teaches a range of courses on school technology leadership, design thinking and research methods. His current research agenda investigates how technology, innovation and policy interact and influence schools and educators in different contexts. John is also a director of the UCEA Center for Advanced Study of Leadership for Technology in Education (CASTLE) and the Laboratory on Design Thinking in Education (dLab). John is the former Associate Director for Evaluation at the Stanford Center for Innovations in Learning (SCIL), where he conducted applied research on improving program evaluation in grant-funded initiatives, and the former Associate Director of Assessment and Research at the Stanford Learning Laboratory, where he examined the effects of innovative technologies on learning. Our episodes are edited by the talented Evan Kurohara. Music is provided by my friend and master pianist, Michael Sloan.

May 23, 2023 • 1h 23min
106. Whole Child, Whole Life, with Stephanie Malia Krauss
Whole Child, Whole Life author, Stephanie Malia Krauss writes, “I am a mom [and now two-time author] with a background in education and social work. Through my experiences teaching and running a school, I know getting young people to succeed academically does not always mean they are healthy, happy, or ready for what comes next. This was true in my own life. As a high school dropout, I needed people and opportunities within and beyond school to help me live and learn. Today I work at the intersection of education, youth development, workforce development, and human services. My work and writing focuses on what young people need to build lives and futures they love. I am fortunate to work with brilliant leaders across the US to advocate for and build systems, structures, policies, and practices to make that possible.” Editing for this episode is provided by the talented Evan Kurohara. Our theme music comes from the vast catalogue of music by master pianist, Michael Sloan. Please support this show by giving us a rating and writing a review wherever you get your podcasts!

May 16, 2023 • 47min
Big Think: The Creative Hustle, with Olatunde Sobomehin and Sam Seidel
Humans have always been creative hustlers—problem solvers who seek to live beyond the limits suggested by society. Yet we live in a world where the place you were born, the amount of money you have, and the level of melanin in your skin indicate a precise path you are expected to follow. Too many of us silence our creativity and let our hustle calcify as we settle for the roles assigned to us. In this special episode, moderated by What School Could Be's Susannah Johnson and Kapono Ciotti, you will hear Olatunde Sobomehin and Sam Seidel, co-teachers of the Creative Hustle course at Stanford University, help you identify and navigate your own creative path that leads from your gifts—your unique combination of skills—to your goals, where you make a living doing things that matter. Sam Seidel is the K12 Lab Director of Strategy and Research at the Stanford d.school, and co-author of four books, including Creative Hustle, Changing the Conversation About School Safety, Hip Hop Genius 2.0, and Hip Hop Genius: Remixing High School Education. Olatunde Sobomehin is the CEO and co-founder of StreetCode Academy, a Silicon Valley-based non-profit that offers free tech classes to communities of color. Olatunde is a proud graduate of Stanford where he majored in Urban Studies, led a public speaking class in the Engineering department, and played on the top 25 Men's Basketball Team, where he was also voted Most Inspirational Player in 2003.

May 1, 2023 • 1h 16min
105. The Solutionary Squad's Magical Mystical Alchemist, Julia Fliss
Today my guest is Julia Fliss. Julia is an educator, activist, world changer, lifelong learner, creative, and yogi who lives and teaches middle level learners at a school in the mountains of Evergreen, Colorado. She has made it her life’s mission to advocate for student voice, agency, and the power of transformative pedagogy and global collaboration within our current education system. Julia and I share a common superhero named Zoe Weil, the founder of the Institute for Humane Education and the author of The World Becomes What We Teach. Zoe, for this episode writes, "Julia Fliss is the kind of teacher most of us wish we had had, even just once in all the years we were in school. A teacher who believed in us so deeply that we discovered who we could be through her reflected eyes and constant encouragement. A teacher who wanted to know us so that we could better know ourselves and pursue our passions. A teacher who created a class culture so bustling with enthusiasm, kindness, and cooperation that we could truly thrive. A teacher who made learning come alive and inspired us to make a difference in the world. A teacher who helped us to think deeply as well as to act ethically. A teacher so positive and loving that we had a role model for life." Editing for this episode is provided by the talented Evan Kurohara. Our theme music comes from the vast catalogue of music by master pianist, Michael Sloan. Please support this show by giving us a rating and writing a review wherever you get your podcasts! To contact me with questions or comments navigate to the contact page for this show.

Apr 23, 2023 • 1h 3min
Big Think: Four Brilliant Futurists
The following conversation happened on December 1st, 2022 via Zoom. Kapono Ciotti and I hosted a panel of four brilliant futurists who discussed the need to educate not one, but multiple generations of teachers and students who will intentionally shape the future of society, resulting in a world that is more just, more equitable, and fully sustainable, and do it in a way that avoids negative, unintended consequences. This panel did a remarkable and wonderful job unpacking all that is what school could be, and could be school. Our four panelists were: Dr. Kristin Alford is the Director of the Museum of Discovery (MOD.) at the University of South Australia: Laura McBain is the Co-Interim Managing Director at Hasso Plattner Institute of Design at Stanford (d.School) and the Co-Director of the K12 Lab at Stanford’s d.School in California: Zoe Weil is the co-founder and president of the Institute for Humane Education (IHE), and a pioneer in the comprehensive humane education movement. Zoe calls Maine her home. Dr. Aubrey Yee is a futurist, systems thinker, and passionate advocate for positive social transformation in Hawaii is a facilitator and coach for Our Beloved Futures, among many other pursuits and passions. Editing for this episode is provided by Evan Kurohara and Kim Dilts. Our theme music comes from the vast catalogue of music by master pianist, Michael Sloan. Please support this show by giving us a rating and writing a review wherever you get your podcasts!

Apr 3, 2023 • 1h 10min
104. An Educator and Leader of Great Promise, Esther Kwon
The Milken Family Foundation writes, "Esther Kwon has worn many hats in her years at Daniel K. Inouye Elementary School. Currently an assistant principal, Kwon looks for innovative ways to enhance students’ educational experience in and out of the classroom. As assistant principal, she is an integral part of the school’s administrative leadership team, helping to drive the instructional program and meet overall academic goals. Last year she piloted the Pineapple Academy, a distance learning option for 12 area elementary schools. Kwon’s fifth graders started each day with 'Pineapple Talk Time,' where they chatted, listened to music played by 'DJ Kwon,' and set their intentions for the day with one of the four classroom norms: be present, be respectful, be curious, be responsible. Students served as co-teachers, helping to summarize learning and share key ideas in the online chat panel. Kwon encouraged students to follow their passions, pairing them with high school students to create projects for the state’s elementary STEM fair. In the program’s inaugural year, 100% of Kwon’s students showed growth on diagnostic assessments, with 80% meeting or exceeding grade level targets in language arts. Kwon shared her learning practices with peers and invited state leaders into her online classroom to showcase what effective virtual instruction looked, sounded and felt like." Editing for this episode is provided by the talented Evan Kurohara. Our theme music comes from the vast catalogue of music by master pianist, Michael Sloan. Please support this show by giving us a rating and writing a review wherever you get your podcasts!

Mar 23, 2023 • 1h 9min
103. Bike Repair, Great Coffee and Three Pioneers at Embark Education
Listeners, meet Miguel Gonzales, Brian Hyosaka and Megan Parry, three visionary and articulate education leaders at Embark Education and Embark, the School in Colorado. "At Embark Education, we are rooted firmly in radical trust, fostering relationships, and shifting mindsets, while expanding to explore the profound potential of learner-centered education for youth and adults. Embark, the school, is a micro middle school in North Denver embedded in two small businesses – Pinwheel Coffee and Framework Cycles. Embark supports students to courageously inquire, engage, and discover a sense of self in an environment that is learner-centered, integrated, and embedded." Editing for this episode is provided by the talented Evan Kurohara. Our theme music comes from the vast catalogue of music by master pianist, Michael Sloan. Please support this show by giving us a rating and writing a review wherever you get your podcasts!

Mar 13, 2023 • 48min
Big Think: Stephen Ritz and the Green Bronx Machine
Stephen Ritz is a South Bronx educator and administrator who believes that students shouldn’t have to leave their community to live, learn, and earn in a better one. Moving generations of students into spheres of personal and academic successes they have never imagined, while reclaiming and rebuilding the Bronx, Stephen’s extended student and community family have grown more than 165,000 pounds of vegetables in the Bronx while generating extraordinary academic performance. Named a 2015 Top Ten Finalist for the Global Teacher Prize, Stephen’s accolades include a 2014 Greenius Award, 2014 Green Difference Award, 2013 Latin Trends Award, ABC Above and Beyond Award, Chevrolet / General Motors National Green Educator Award, USS Intrepid Hometown Hero Award, NYC Chancellor’s Award and various others. Stephen has consistently moved attendance from 40 percent to 93 percent daily, partnered towards thousands of youth jobs in the Bronx and captured the United States EPA Award for transforming mindsets and landscapes in NYC. A strong advocate for Project Based Learning, he is currently working on embedding the concepts of sustainability, food, energy and environmental justice into K-12 programming and beyond. This special episode was edited by Evan Kurohara and Kim Dilts. Music is provided by Michael Sloan.
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