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Against the Rules with Michael Lewis

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Mar 22, 2024 • 42sec

Judging Sam is Coming Back

The podcast covers the trial and potential sentencing of FTX founder Sam Bankman-Fried, who was convicted of fraud and conspiracy. It includes insights from a bankruptcy expert, a former federal prosecutor, and the possibility of an interview with Bankman-Fried.
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Feb 19, 2024 • 1h 1min

Michael Lewis on Freakonomics Radio

Bestselling author Michael Lewis discusses his book on Sam Bankman-Fried, the FTX fraud, and the criticism he faced. Topics include effective altruists, philanthropy strategies, family dynamics, trial insights, and the lack of empathy in the world of tycoons.
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Dec 12, 2023 • 1h 5min

The Rise and Fall of Crypto Billionaire Sam Bankman-Fried from Talk Easy

Enjoy this episode from another Pushkin Industries podcast, Talk Easy with Sam Fragoso. Upon taking a walk with crypto billionaire Sam Bankman-Fried, writer Michael Lewis had a sense that there might be a story here. In the intervening two years, that story has taken a series of twists and turns, resulting in Lewis’ new book Going Infinite: The Rise and Fall of a New Tycoon. At the top, we walk through Bankman-Fried’s Manhattan trial, the subject at the center of this winding story, and why Lewis was first interested in observing him. Then, he unpacks Bankman-Fried’s belief in effective altruism, his probabilistic approach to trading, and how his Stanford law professor parents shaped his thinking. On the back-half, we discuss the ten-day period of FTX’s collapse, the scene in the Bahamas as Bankman-Fried filed for bankruptcy, and why Lewis felt a kinship with Sam’s parents in that moment. To close, Michael reflects on his own journalistic tendencies and how he managed to write this book in the aftermath of great personal tragedy. For thoughts, reflections, and guest suggestions, drop Sam a line at sf@talkeasypod.com.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Nov 17, 2023 • 31min

Judging Sam: Millennial Frauds

Elizabeth Lopatto, journalist, discusses the trial of Sam Bankman-Fried. They explore the similarities to Elizabeth Holmes' trial and the future of the tech industry. Topics include euphemisms in corporate language, playing video games in VC meetings, and the impact of tech CEOs' downfall.
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Nov 9, 2023 • 34min

Judging Sam: The Aftermath

Discussing the aftermath of Sam Bankman-Fried's guilty verdict, the hosts speculate on his potential sentence and the fate of the cooperating witnesses. They reflect on the emotions displayed by those involved and the impact of Sam's downfall. They also explore the limitations of sentencing guidelines and offer practical advice for defendants.
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Nov 3, 2023 • 9min

Judging Sam: Guilty on all counts

The podcast explores the guilty verdict in the trial of Sam Bankman-Fried. It discusses the tense atmosphere in the courtroom, Sam's emotional scene with his parents, and provides updates on the trial and sentencing. The host reflects on the impact of the verdict and concludes with acknowledgments.
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Nov 2, 2023 • 21min

Judging Sam: The jury's job

In this episode, the podcast explores the jury deliberation process and dynamics, highlighting the composition and occupations of the jury. The chapter discusses the jurors' focus on determining the defendant's intent and speculates on the length of deliberations. It also questions the reliability of interpreting jurors' facial expressions as indicators of their verdict.
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Nov 1, 2023 • 24min

Judging Sam: The Hail Mary That Wasn’t

The podcast discusses the final day of the trial of Sam Bankman-Fried, including the prosecution's cross-examination, the defense's redirect, and both sides resting. It explores the anticipation and anxiety surrounding the trial, reflects on insights from a memo shedding light on financial transactions, and examines the issue of stolen money. The chapter also delves into the concept of taking risks, analyzes Sam Bankman-Fried's demeanor, and concludes with farewells, promises of further analysis, and acknowledgements.
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Oct 31, 2023 • 14min

Judging Sam: Sam Bankman-Fried Faces Cross-Examination

Sam Bankman-Fried faces cross-examination from the government's chief prosecutor. The defense highlights his guarded responses and memory difficulties. The prosecutor undermines his credibility, exposing his ignorance about wrongdoings in his company. Testimonies are compared and ads for other podcasts are included. The chapter ends with the remaining steps in the trial, including cross-examination and upcoming witness testimonies.
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Oct 28, 2023 • 21min

Judging Sam: Sam Bankman-Fried Takes The Stand

Sam Bankman-Fried takes the stand in court as Michael Lewis and Lidia Jean discuss everything that occurred. They examine his life, behavior in court, and conflicting narratives. Reflections on the trial and anticipation for the cross-examination are also mentioned.

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