

Afford Anything
Paula Pant | Cumulus Podcast Network
You can afford anything, but not everything. We make daily decisions about how to spend money, time, energy, focus and attention – and ultimately, our life.How do we make smarter decisions? How do we think from first principles?On the surface, Afford Anything seems like a podcast about money and investing.But under the hood, this is a show about how to think critically, recognize our behavioral blind spots, and make smarter choices. We’re into the psychology of money, and we love metacognition: thinking about how to think.In some episodes, we interview world-class experts: professors, researchers, scientists, authors. In other episodes, we answer your questions, talking through decision-making frameworks and mental models.Want to learn more? Download our free book, Escape, at http://affordanything.com/escape. Hosted by Paula Pant.
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Oct 21, 2022 • 1h 1min
Build Your 15-Year Career, with Kiersten and Julien Saunders
#408: When Kiersten and Julian Saunders began dating in 2012, they fell in love quickly, and their relationship felt strong – until they started talking about money.They broke up as a result of their first money conversation.Luckily, they got back together, figured out how to have tough conversations, and paid off $200,000 in debt over the next five years.Then they started thinking about how to hack their careers. They came up with a plan for a 15-year career.Today, they join us on the podcast to talk about the 15-year career framework and how to approach your career - and your finances - in 5 year stints.Timing of discussion points as per October 2022:00:25: Introduction to Kiersten and Julien Saunders02:05: The money conversation that changed everything11:25: Examples of interaction patterns around money discussions12:08: Tactics to continue difficult money conversations16:18: Starting a 15-year career17:48: The focus of the first five years: your financial foundation18:17: Transitioning to the second five years and defining your super power at work18:50: Building your exit plan in the last five years22:57: Thinking about side hustles and the factors of urgency and upside24:29: How does a person know how to make money29:28: Maintaining momentum towards your goals over the 15 year time span31:37: Is it possible to accelerate the 15 year timeline?35:12: Thinking about risk after your career Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Oct 12, 2022 • 1h 14min
Ask Paula: The 5 Types of Accountants (and Who To Avoid!)
#407: Ionnie wants to vet her tax professional as diligently as she assesses her financial advisor – how should she go about doing that?Anonymous needs a career change, and she needs help figuring out how to approach the decision making process when choosing and preparing for her next field of employmentMM prefers the simple path to wealth and investing in real estate but is looking for more information on a more intentional and selective approach to investing.Ingrid calls in to ask whether she should include her rental income when trying to figure out how much she can contribute to her Roth IRA.Former financial planner Joe Saul-Sehy and I tackle these four questions in today’s episode.Enjoy!P.S. Got a question? Leave it here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Oct 7, 2022 • 49min
Invest Anywhere: I’ve chosen my city…now what?
#406: In this two-part episode, we first tackle the data points needed to assess various investment locations within your city of choice.We will cover seven specific neighborhood characteristics to review before diving into deal finding, and three things to look at once you've found a specific deal to evaluate.Then, we interview Kristen Lazure, the producer behind the Netflix movie "Get Smart With Money". The movie follows 4 financial coaches — Tiffany Aliche, Peter Adeney, Ross Mac and myself — as we help four people who are struggling with some aspect of their financial lives.Tune in for behind-the-scenes movie insights and enjoy today's episode!Timing of discussion points as per October 2022:01: 49: Topic introduction04:03: Tip on visualizing the data06:00: Current and future locations of employers11:55: Impact of the local business landscape and housing prices13:22: Investments from municipalities15:02: The importance of school districts16:28: Adjusting location evaluations based on strategy18:57: Understanding the crime landscape, flood plains and walk scores29:28: Introduction to Kristin Lazure and Get Smart With Money discussion Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Oct 5, 2022 • 1h 3min
Ask Paula: How to Handle a HUGE Bonus, Commission or Windfall
#405: Daniel and his wife want to go on an extended vacation and leave their jobs next year…and still have money in case there’s a problem at their rental properties. Would a HELOC help them?Anonymous and her husband have received a large commission and want to understand how to better plan for their future by optimizing for these inconsistent windfalls.Brian has hit coast F.I.R.E and would like guidance on how to prioritize between tax advantaged accounts and retirement accounts.Anonymous and his wife have been focused on getting short term rentals in a single location - is his portfolio too focused on this singular strategy??Former financial planner Joe Saul-Sehy and I tackle these four questions in today’s episode.Enjoy!P.S. Got a question? Leave it here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Sep 28, 2022 • 1h 5min
How I Paid off $500,000 in Credit Card Debt, Then Launched a Company With $35 Million in Annual Revenue — with Rand Fishkin
#404: When Rand Fishkin was 25 years old, he carried $500,000 in credit card debt.Less than a decade later, Rand was the Founder and CEO of a company that grossed $35 million in annual revenue.In this episode, Rand shares the story of hitting his financial rock-bottom and making the ultimate comeback. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Sep 23, 2022 • 1h 10min
How I Reached Financial Independence Through Real Estate – With Chad Carson
#403: September Sabbatical continued! If you’ve been listening to the show for the past few years, then you know that we’ve entered our September Sabbatical, where the team takes a break from podcast production and airs a few of our favorites from the 400+ episodes we’ve aired to date.F.I.R.E. holds four pillars: Financial psychology, Investing, Real estate, and Entrepreneurship.This September, we’re running four weeks of episodes focusing on each of these four pillars. Today’s episode is focused on real estate.—-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Chad Carson’s friends called him a “nerdjock.”When former college football linebacker Chad Carson graduated from Clemson University, he decided to start a business. But he didn’t have any money.He was a 235-pound athlete who attended college on a football scholarship. He graduated debt-free with $1,000 in savings from various odd jobs. He wanted to become an entrepreneur, and he knew he was starting from zero.As Chad viewed it, starting from zero meant he had nothing to lose.He started jogging around local neighborhoods near the university. Whenever he noticed a property in disrepair, he’d ask if it was for sale.If he noticed a ‘For Sale by Owner’ sign in the yard, for example, he’d dial the number.If he noticed a home with an overgrown lawn and no curtains in the windows, he’d leave a note on the door, or he’d knock on the neighbor’s doors to get the owner’s phone number.By doing this, Chad started a real estate wholesaling business. He’d find off-market properties, enter into a sales contract with the owner, and then ‘flip’ the contract to an investor. He earned around $5,000 for each deal.The benefit to a wholesaling business, Chad discovered, is that he could get a foothold inside the real estate industry without much access to capital. He was a recent college graduate without any official employment, so most banks weren’t interested in offering him loans. Wholesaling gave him a start in the industry.But after awhile, he wanted to chase bigger deals. He and a business partner decided to start flipping houses themselves. They earned profits of around $20,000 to $30,000 for each deal.While this was great, Chad wanted to transition into something that would provide a steady, stable income stream. He was running an active business; he wasn’t accumulating a portfolio of passive investments.He and his business partner stopped flipping homes and began accumulating buy-and-hold rental properties. Today they have 90 units between the two of them.A few years ago, Chad realized that the passive income from his investments made him financially independent. He and his wife decided to enjoy their newfound freedom by moving to Ecuador with their two children, ages 3 and 5.They spent 17 months living in Ecuador, learning Spanish and enjoying a slower pace of life. They recently returned to the U.S. and are considering moving to either Spain or Germany — or maybe Colorado? — for their next adventure.In today’s episode, Chad and I discuss real estate, financial independence, and international travel with children.Enjoy! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Sep 15, 2022 • 1h 8min
The Psychology of Money, with Morgan Housel
#402: Do you wrestle with the idea of leaving your savings in an account earning next to nothing versus investing it in the stock market?Do you use investment strategies that allow you to work with your nature, rather than against it?Are you careful to seek investment advice from those who share your investment goals, or do you get caught up in the trends of day traders?Morgan Housel, author of The Psychology of Money, joins us to discuss why investing is not the study of finance, but the study of how people behave with money. Morgan is an award-winning financial journalist, former columnist for the Wall Street Journal and The Motley Fool, and one of the foremost thinkers in the world of investing.As a long-term investor who shares our buy-and-hold philosophy, Morgan has behavioral finance insights that can help us invest for financial independence with more clarity and a better understanding of ourselves.We discuss how to develop self-awareness around biases, the importance of flexibility for long-term strategies, saving like a pessimist and investing like an optimist, becoming durable in the face of market adversity, the key difference between patience and stubbornness (and how it affects your mindset), expectation management, the importance of bonds and emergency funds, and a difficult lesson about tail risks that Morgan learned at age 17.You’ll enjoy this episode if…
You’re super Type A with your investment portfolio and have a hard time letting go of plans that didn’t work out
You want to learn a framework that can help you roll with the inevitable punches of the stock market
You feel behind and have no idea how to develop a sense of what ‘enough’ is
You’re tired of trying to overcome your inherent biases and reactions to the market and want to try something different
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Sep 7, 2022 • 1h 1min
You are a Badass at Making Money, with Jen Sincero
#401: It’s September! If you’ve been listening to the show for the past few years, then you know that I’m on what I’ve dubbed my September Sabbatical, in which I’m taking a break from podcast production.F.I.R.E. holds four pillars: Financial psychology, Investing, Real estate, and Entrepreneurship.This September, we’re running four weeks of episodes focusing on each of these four pillars. Today, we kick off with an episode focused on financial psychology. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Sep 2, 2022 • 1h 27min
#400: The Lies Told About Early Retirement
Today we’re sharing three talks given at the EconoMe conference, with each of these talks relating to F.I.R.E.The three discussions are:
FI-Landia is a lie - What I Learned On My Journey To F.I.R.E., with Carl Jensen
What If You Achieve All Your Goals But You’re Still Not Happy, with Rich Jones
How To Never Again Say, “I Can’t Afford It”, with Paula Pant
Details below:Carl Jensen:05:27: Session begins08:02: Sharing the message of financial independence and being hit with the “What If’s”12:24: The concern about running out of money20:16: The real value of fireRich Jones:32:50: Session begins35:55: The importance of knowing who you are, what you want, and why39:36: Day jobs: love vs. purpose43:26: Why you should track your work46:18: How to think like a recruiter51:44: Why giving yourself permission could be your game changerPaula Pant:59:34: Session begins1:02:21: The importance of reframing the word “can’t”1:10:29: Traditional budgets, zero based budgets and anti budgets1:19:49: The benefit of high friction activities * Timestamps accurate as of September 2022. Starting 60 days after episode release, timestamps may shift slightly as we make updates and changes**The next EconoMe will be held March 17th-19th 2023, in Cincinnati, Ohio. For more information or 10% off tickets, please go to: EconoMe Conference and use discount code: AFFORDANYTHING. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Aug 31, 2022 • 1h 12min
Ask Paula: The stock market is down - Can I still retire?
#399: Bella is SO CLOSE to reaching F.I.R.E and is worried about her withdrawal rate if the stock market drops. If the stock market does drop, can she withdraw as much as she had originally planned?Sam has been investing for several decades and thinks that he should stay invested in his portfolio, despite the recent drop in value…but he is still wondering if there’s a chance that he should sell.Meisha is making more money at her new job but can’t contribute to her 401(k) for the first six months - what should she do with her extra money in this interim??Kyria is a young investor with multiple goals: she’s wondering how to best save for a downpayment without it being eroded by inflation and also whether her investment choices should take on more risk, since time is on her side.Former financial planner Joe Saul-Sehy and I tackle these four questions in today’s episode.Enjoy!P.S. Got a question? Leave it here.For more information, visit the show notes at https://affordanything.com/episode399 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices