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Hard-hitting investigative journalist Dilyana Gaytandzhieva discusses her groundbreaking work uncovering diplomatically protected international arms traffic from Western governments to terrorists as well as her discovery of Pentagon-funded bio-laboratories scattered throughout Eurasia. She learned how the whole of Eastern Europe was involved in a network for arming terrorists with weapons paid for by the USA, UAE, and Saudi Arabia, all under diplomatic cover. She visited numerous bio-labs and found they were located in residential areas where people subsequently complained of pollution, death, and disease. She even interrogated Robert Kadlec. The Pentagon funded 11 bio-labs in Ukraine and has been seeking the DNA and blood samples specifically of Russian nationals. We discuss media censorship and the latest development in Europe where questioning the narrative now can land you in jail. 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Her websites are Dilyana.bg and ArmsWatch.com. She has been carrying out explosive investigative reporting from on the ground on biological warfare, bio labs, as well as the supply of arms by the West to Al-Qaeda and ISIS terrorists. Thank you for joining Geopolitics & Empire, Dilyana. How are you doing? Dilyana Gaytandzhieva: Thank you for having me, and I much appreciate the interest that you are taking in my stories. Geopolitics & Empire: Your work is amazing and I’m amazed that you haven’t done more interviews. But before we start, I would tell listeners as well, if they want to get more of a backstory, they can go to some of the Geopolitics & Empire archives where, for example, I spoke with Jeffrey Kaye and he was discussing US bio warfare against North Korea and China in the 1950s. And of course, as well, there is my interview with Dr. Francis Boyle from 2020 where we discussed biological weapons. Dilyana, before we get to the bio warfare and the current events, you … Earlier in your work, you uncovered a covert international weapons shipment network which worked through diplomatic flights to arm terrorists in the Middle East and Africa, and you say this was organized by US Southern Command, I think. SOCOM? Saudi Arabia and the UAE among other actors, I’m sure. Many of us have long known how the West has funded extremists, Al-Qaeda and ISIS. I often reference, for example, there was an Iraqi general who said, I think last year, that if the West stopped funding, arming, supporting training ISIS, ISIS in Iraq would disappear tomorrow. And so, you’ve revealed some groundbreaking details and information, such as how diplomatic cover was used to protect this very illegal behavior of our governments. Could you first tell us a bit about the work you’ve done on this? Dilyana Gaytandzhieva: I was a war correspondent and international correspondent for Bulgarian media. At that point, it was in December of 2016. I was covering the Battle of Aleppo, and when the terrorists from [inaudible 00:02:33] this is the Al Qaeda affiliate in Syria, retreated from their positions. I was able to enter, along with my cameraman and producer, to enter one underground warehouse which was full with weapons. And to my dismay, most of the weapons were with the country of origin being my country, Bulgaria. I filmed everything, I broadcast this video with so many pieces of evidence, including documents and footage proving that my country Bulgaria was arming terrorists. I broadcast this report, I returned to my country, and I continued my investigation. And a few months later, I published a bigger investigation, about 350 diplomatic flights with weapons originating from Eastern Europe. And all these flights, diplomatic flights with diplomatic clearance, were chartered by the US Special Operations Commands or the US Government, Saudi Arabia, and the United Arab Emirates. According to these documents, these documents were internal memos, official letters, requests for diplomatic clearance with attached documents about weapons being shipped to different locations around the world, but mainly these were weapons destined for Syria and also for Yemen. And these documents proved that the whole of Eastern Europe was involved in an international weapons shipment network for arming terrorists using diplomatic flights. These weapons were paid for by the US government, the Saudi government, and the Emirate government. We are talking about 350 diplomatic flights from 2015 to 2017. After I published this investigation, the company that was involved … It is a serious state-run air company, Silk Way Alliance, they confirmed that they were exporting weapons for NATO or for their allies, but they denied that these weapons were destined for terrorists. However, the documents showed that this air company or its aircraft made technical landings. For instance, Incirlik Air Base. This is NATO-shared air base in Turkey, very close to the border with Syria. So the weapons were offloaded there and then smuggled to Syria. This was the scheme, how they did it, because diplomatic flights are exempt from checks, inspections, and air [inaudible 00:06:06]. Nobody knows what exactly was transported on these 350 diplomatic flights, but the documents that I obtained proved the whole scheme or the whole international weapons shipment network, who are the sponsoring parties, who are the exporters, the importers, on papers. But they also proved that all these supplies were under diplomatic cover. And we are not talking about accidental supply or flight, no. This was well organized international weapons shipment network involving many countries. My country Bulgaria, including … After I published this investigation, I was interrogated by the Bulgarian National Security Agency, and they wanted to know my source. They didn’t investigate this crime, namely arming terrorists. They wanted to know my sources. And I probably didn’t cooperate with them in the way they wanted. I was fired literally one hour after I was interrogated. I received a phone call from the secretary in the newspaper where I worked, and she told me that my contract was terminated. The next week I was supposed to travel to Syria to continue my investigation on the ground. This never happened. And the editor in chief didn’t provide or even didn’t meet me and didn’t provide any explanation as to why my contract was terminated. So no investigation was launched in Bulgaria into the crime, arming terrorists with Bulgarian weapons. No. They just launched an investigation into how these documents were made public. This was the only issue that’s they wanted to investigate. Nothing more. Sponsor: A message from our sponsors. The Nomos app will help you survive COVID, 1984, and the Great Reset. 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Geopolitics & Empire needs funding. You can leave a donation, book a consultation, or be become a member which gets you access to my brief weekly commentary, a monthly newsletter of my thoughts, a private telegram, a monthly member’s group call, and my second premium broadcast called Dissident Thinker where I conduct interviews and provide solo analysis. Dissident Thinker is also available on a Rokfin and for supporters on Locals. Geopolitics & Empire: This reminds me years ago, just came to mind, there was a WikiLeaks document. I think it was referring to Bulgaria, where the Bulgarian government did an investigation into corruption, into the government, and there was this report that was put on the desk of some official where the report … Where the government was in investigating itself. They discovered that there existed a Bulgarian … I mean, it’s in most countries. A Bulgarian deep state, and it was actually describing like a parallel structure, where you have the government that everybody sees in Bulgaria, and then you have the real government that makes the decision. And this report was leaked on WikiLeaks. So that very much, you know, goes … I think it’s related to what you experienced, as well. I remember reading Croatian arms … Because I’m Croatian and you know, Croatia was involved in trafficking arms to Syria, which I was very not happy about. I think you also reported, it’s on your website, Serbia was also somehow used to traffic arms to Ukraine or Donetsk or the Donbass region. And so … And it’s amazing the kind of work that you have been doing is you shed light on these very specific details. Like we already know a lot of the big picture. We know that the West has been funding Al Qaeda and ISIS for a long time. You know, we have many … Much such information, you know. You have the 2012 Defense Intelligence Agency memo, which discusses the West supporting the Salafists. And as well as your work really gets to the details. It’s incredible how airlines are involved, international airports, governments, all of this framework and system. So let’s then get onto the bio weapons. In 2018, you wrote an explosive article, it’s on your website, Arms Watch, as well as your personal website, about Pentagon bio weapons and Pentagon laboratories which are situated in 25 countries around the world. Everywhere from my former home of Kazakhstan, I used to live in Kazakhstan, to Ukraine, to Africa, the Caucasus, Middle East, South Asia. There have been outbreaks in these regions similar to the … Related to the Pentagon bio warfare projects. In 2014, you detail how the Pentagon had a project on sand flies, and what do you know? In 2015, there is an outbreak in Georgia of unusual biting flies and insects which have resistance to cold. So could you then tell us a bit about how you got into this research of the bio weapons and the bio laboratories and you know, what is important for you there? What have you discovered? Dilyana Gaytandzhieva: I learned about one Pentagon-funded bio laboratory Georgia, which is called the Lugar Center by local journalists. And in the beginning, I didn’t believe it. I thought because it didn’t sound possible. It sounded like a science fiction. And I started … However, I decided to check this information, and I checked a lot of documents published on the US Federal Contracts Registry, and it turned out that the Pentagon has funded bio laboratories in 25 countries across the world. The majority of these bio laboratories are located in countries bordering on the US’ main rivals, Russia, China, and Iran. I went to Georgia and I talked to local people and what these local people living around the laboratory … Because the laboratory is built inside a neighborhood. Literally the buildings where people live, they are adjacent to this laboratory, which was very shocking to me but obviously the wellbeing of the local population is not as much importance to the local authorities and the sponsoring party, the United States, as it should be. So local people told me first that after the laboratory started working, they noticed a sense of pollution in the air, in the soil, in the water. They started experiencing very inexplicable symptoms of headaches, high blood pressure, and other worrying symptoms that were not typical in the area before. Also, they told me about death cases, neighbors to Filipino workers working in this laboratory. They even … Very sad story. They even told me about death cases and it was … I have video and I recorded their testimony on how these scientists working at the Lugar Center from the Philippines, but American contractors, how they died, how they called ambulance, but the medics couldn’t save them. And they were told that it was probably something like poison, but this happened twice, not just once. So it was probably related to some work performed by these scientists in the laboratory. And also I came into contact with insiders and they leaked documents to me, proving that the United States has performed, conducted experiments involving local soldiers not only in Georgia, but in Ukraine. The Defense Threat Reduction Agency, which is in charge of this whole program, called Biological Engagement Program, $2.5 billion program. This agency has funded projects in Georgia on 1000 soldiers and another project on Ukrainian soldiers, 4400 soldiers. Under this program in both countries, that was … Or we don’t know at which stage of the program or phase this project is now, but in the project description it was written that the scientists, I’m quoting now, “Will take blood draws from healthy soldiers and they will be tested for different antigens against bio agents. The information about the results will not be provided to the participants in this program,” which raises another question as to why these volunteers would not be able to know the results of their own blood tests. These samples will be stored in the Pentagon bio laboratory and part of them will be shipped to the next phase for further studies. This is the only information that is provided. Interestingly, in the documents, it is written that … Again I’m quoting, “All volunteer deaths will be promptly reported.” Which means that this program probably involves serious risk or even a little risk to the participants and the volunteers in this program. The same is in Ukraine and the same is in Georgia, in both countries, there are such documents which states that the volunteer deaths will be promptly reported. Geopolitics & Empire: This reminds me of the 1990s classic film, Universal Soldier with Jean-Claude Van Damme and Dolph Lundgren, which I viewed as a kid. Yeah, you write about this in your article, that was actually one of my questions, Project GG21, where the Pentagon conducted bio experiments with a potentially lethal outcome on 4400 soldiers in Ukraine and, as you mentioned, the thousand in Georgia. You also discuss bio warfare programs dealing with human genetic engineering as well as ethnic bio weapons, a theoretical weapon that aims to primarily harm people of specific ethnicities or genotypes. I think Francis Boyle touched on this as well. And I think it was some … A video was just on the social media recently from 2018 where this question was asked to President Putin and he acknowledged this, he was aware, the Russians are aware that there are these Pentagon bio labs surrounding Russia in the former Soviet Union. And they’re doing this kind of work regarding ethnic-specific bio weapons. Do you have any thoughts on that? Dilyana Gaytandzhieva: I have seen documents, again originating from the US Federal Contract Registry, in which it was written that Pentagon scientists need samples, biological samples, but only from Russians, not from Ukrainians. Only from people with Russian origin. This was written in the documents, which was very strange, why only Russians, not in general Caucasian people. No, only Russians. This was written. So it was an announcement for a few prospective contractors that need to supply synovial tissue to one laboratory, military laboratory, in the United States. And one of the questions that these prospective contractors asked was, “Could we supply Ukrainian or other biological material?” The answer was, “No, only Russian.” This is what I have seen in the documents which raises a lot of questions, why only Russians? Ukrainians, no. Why? These are Caucasian people, they’re … Why is that? No answer, again. So I guess this could have caused awareness in Russia, because their genetic material, biological material, has been studied by the Pentagon for unknown reason. Geopolitics & Empire: Yeah. And also in your writing you discuss … A lot of this we know now. There are books like Robert Kennedy Jr.’s best-selling book now, and others. You talked about how the Pentagon has been studying bats that they have engineered MERS-Cov, influenza, SARS, and you recently, I think a month ago, published on your website about the bird flu being modified by the NIH to be more virulent. Based on your reading of these documents as well, perhaps your discussions with some of the insiders that you’ve spoken to, you know, what would be your view, your thoughts, on any connections between, again, the function of work? You know, this research on bio weapons and bio labs and COVID-19. Dilyana Gaytandzhieva: The US is the biggest sponsor in the world of gain-of-function research. This gain-of-function research, it is very risky. And it is a scientific dispute whether the world needs such gain-of-function research or not. I’m not a scientist, so I will not engage in this dispute. But what I can see is that my experience as a journalist, trying to find answers is that what I see of huge amounts of money flooding to laboratories, no transparency, diplomatic immunity, given to military scientists to research deadly viruses, bacteria, and toxins. Another topic that we can touch upon later is the reaction of mainstream media. Whenever somebody, be it a scientist or another journalist or a public figure, tries to raise this question about gain-of-function, about military bio laboratories, the answer is always the same. Fake news, conspiracy theory. Well, two years into this pandemic and now more and more pieces of evidence are coming to light that COVID-19 could have potentially been the result of such US-funded gain-of-function research in the Wuhan laboratory. I will give an example. So now, a few days ago, when people started asking the question, “Could this current military operation,” I’m quoting the Russian Ministry of Defense, “Could it be linked partially to this military bio laboratories?” Because in Ukraine, the Pentagon has funded 11 bio laboratories under unknown … It is non-military program, but the real objectives of this program are unknown to the general public. So people started asking this question, “Could there be a link between what is happening now in Ukraine?” And the reaction of the American media was to immediately call this information fake news, that the Pentagon has funded bio laboratories in Ukraine. No matter that there are documents originating from the US government proving that the US government funded such laboratories. I don’t understand this craziness. I mean, why aren’t American journalists interested in what their government is doing and how their government and the Pentagon has spent $2.5 billion, US taxpayers’ money, on the health of foreign citizens instead on the health of their own citizens? This is not of interest at all to the American media, which is very inexplicable to me. Geopolitics & Empire: Yeah. And so speaking of that, you discussed how the Defense Threat Reduction Agency had funded 11 labs in Ukraine even as recently as 2021, or this year 2022, that they were supposed to be for their advanced … They’re put into operation. And you also mentioned how Ukraine has repeatedly been hit in the past years by outbreaks of swine flu and highly virulent cholera and highly suspicious hepatitis A infection. And you’re right. These documents, until recently, they were available … These documents, which documented the funding for these labs in Ukraine, were on the US State Department’s website and such, and you just tweeted recently that those were taken down. So on your Twitter, people can find … I’ll include the links. On your website you included a backup of those files. So this proves that this is factual. So if you, if you have any comments on that as well as … I guess we have no further information to know if what … The military operation that’s going on now by Russia within Ukraine, my most recent guest Dmitry Orlov was saying that one of the purposes of the Russian military operation was to take out many of the Ukrainian military installations. And so then the question is are they also taking out military installations where these American-funded bio labs are contained or are they targeting these bio labs? I haven’t seen information on that, so I don’t know if you have or if you have any other thoughts on this. Dilyana Gaytandzhieva: I can make a judgment based on one propaganda article that I read. It was published by otherwise reputable medium, the Bulletin of the American Scientists. But because the journalist, the author of this article, contacted me and asked me, “How will you commend the fact that you are a liar?” Which I answered, and I sent my comment, providing a lot of facts linked to documents. And I asked him, “Could you please tell me where is the lie? More than 200 Georgians died during American experimental program or on hepatitis C in Georgia, with the Lugar Center, depending upon [inaudible 00:28:32] laboratory, being the leading laboratory in this biological research. Could you explain me why in the documents originating from this project it is written at the cause of death of these people is unknown?” I asked him, “Would you please check? Please ask your government why 248 Georgians enrolled in this program died? And the cause of death is unknown.” He never got back to me. And I read his article. He didn’t publish my comments. All this article was against me. The aim was obviously to tarnish my reputation, to try to convince people that I’m conspiracy theorist or Russian propagandist. So the journalistic ethics require that he publish my comment. No, he published nothing. And this only proves that mainstream media now tries to deflect public attention to a very serious problem. These American bio laboratories or foreign bio laboratories funded by the United States. The same is the case with Wuhan. They all say this, for instance, about Ukraine, or Georgia, “These bio laboratories, they are the property of the host country.” Okay, Wuhan and the Institute in Wuhan is also property of China. But in this property of the government of China, the US funded gain-of-function research and coincidentally the pandemic started exactly from Wuhan. And the pandemic was started by a virus, coronavirus, when the same American program was involved in research on coronaviruses modified to, for unknown reasons, for gain-of-function research. The same. The only difference is that we learn about this gain-of-function research after something bad happens. We don’t know in advance. There is no transparency. I have no explanation as to why this type of research is so important for the US government. What are they doing? What is the aim of this research? These are very important questions. The same is in Ukraine, the same in is in Georgia. According to the documents, certain places inside these laboratories are classified information and they are accessible only to American citizens with security clearance. Geopolitics & Empire: Yeah, it’s very bad what’s going on, the media situation. And I’ve had associated press journalists contact me to interview me, and I don’t speak … Generally, I don’t talk anymore to mainstream media. And I noticed when I didn’t respond to the journalist, the piece that he published was the typical ad hominem attack about conspiracy theorists. But I think they’re losing. The alternative media is growing, but the danger now is they are now attacking us, they’re attacking the platforms, and it’s getting dangerous. It feels like the 1950s McCarthyist Cold War. I just read today, the Czech Republic now, it’s unbelievable. The Czech Republic is saying if a Czech now … I don’t remember exactly, promotes the Russian perspective, even online. So if you don’t accept the official Western perspective, you could be jailed. Dilyana Gaytandzhieva: Up to three years. Yes. That’s true. Also the same … I’m sure the same will happen in Bulgaria as well. Absolutely. This is beyond imagination, really beyond imagination. And they call Europe democracy? Well, I don’t want to call myself then European, if being European means to be treated like this. No, thank you, I don’t want this European freedom. This is unimaginable and disgusting. And by the way, people in my country, they took to the streets to protest against our government involving our country in this conflict. So people started realizing that a lot of the official government narrative is pure propaganda and has nothing to do with the real facts and the real dangers that we are facing now. Including with these viruses and bacteria and toxins that are being studied and used for gain-of-function research. This pandemic proved a lot of lies that we’ve been fed over and over again. So the only positive from this pandemic is that now people are more and more aware, and I hope that this will help all of us confront such programs that are very dangerous and risky. I don’t want us to have a second, a third pandemic, just because … Actually, I don’t know why. I really want to understand, what are these people doing? Why did they spend $2.5 billion in so many bio laboratories overseas for military projects? Why did they collect the blood samples from Georgians from Ukrainians? Now they’re starting such a project in my country, Bulgaria. I contacted our authorities, members of the Bulgarian parliament, also officially required information. They didn’t get any information. And these are members of the parliament. So this raises a lot of questions. Why is all this information hidden? Why? If this is for the benefit of the local population, then why are Americans scientists being … Why have they been given diplomatic immunity to research the [inaudible 00:35:28] virus, bacteria, and toxins? Also why according to special provisions in agreement between Ukraine and the United States and Georgia and the United States, these military scientists are indemnified for fatalities or injuries caused to the local population? Why are these provisions if everything is for the benefit of the local population? And why are the causes of death of more than 200 people listed as unknown? And nobody even investigated this in Georgia. I was so, so surprised. And this answered my question, why in Georgia? Why in Ukraine? Because … Or even in Bulgaria? Because when you have put local media under full control, suppressed freedom of expression, like in Slovakia now up to three years in jail for speaking your mind, no matter what your opinion is, pro or anti, one country, doesn’t matter. You can go to jail up to three years. So in such places where there’s no freedom of speech, media are under full control, you can do whatever you want. All type of programs, projects, and nobody will investigate you. Even not only the media, but the host state is not allowed to investigate you, what you are doing on their territory, because the government of this host state voluntarily provided you with such freedom to do whatever you want. Diplomatic immunity, legal protection. What more to say? This gives an answer, why in these countries, Bulgaria or Georgia or Ukraine? These are … We are slaves. Literally. I’m shocked. I am beyond words. Think what’s happening in my country. They’re coming to perform experiments on Bulgarian soldiers or whatever it is. We don’t know. We don’t … We have no information. And we just met Bulgarian media. They said, “This is normal. There’s no problem. It is for our good.” That was the position of Bulgarian media. Geopolitics & Empire: I would agree with you. Europe has become totalitarian. In my perspective, the EU is a totalitarian construct and as you mentioned, what happened in Czech Republic and probably maybe will happen in Bulgaria and one of my home countries Croatia, and I just can’t stop speaking. So if they make it illegal for Croatians to question the official narrative on Russia or COVID or whatever, well, guess what? I’m Mexican. So come find me in Mexico. I’m a Mexican citizen. So I go where freedom goes. I don’t know if you have … One question I did have was you said you were fired from your job. Have you suffered any other serious persecution or threats or perhaps friends of yours or others in this line of work beyond just losing your job? Dilyana Gaytandzhieva: I don’t want to go further into detail, but it wasn’t easy. But I didn’t give up because I devoted my life, literally. Especially I was war correspondent. I saw Bulgarian rocket. It fell next to us and hit a mother and her five year old child before my eyes. I saw this. And later it turned out that all rockets that were used at that point were Bulgarian. So I devoted my life to do something to stop … At least what I could do, to stop arming terrorists with weapons from my country, Bulgaria. It wasn’t easy but … What hurts is that our colleagues, they are inexplicably silent. I recently received death threats about the investigation into these bio laboratories. So obviously there is something more that we don’t know yet about these bio laboratories. Geopolitics & Empire: Yes, this is also what bothers me the most, is not even so much as these insults or as you mentioned before, the mainstream media journalist attacking you or even death threats, is the silence of so many people. Professionals, white collar professionals, in the academic institutions, in the government, in the journalism, even many of everyday people around us, is this silence and this is what allows this to continue with so many people afraid to speak out or afraid to lose their nice jobs or privileges or prestige. Do you have any … Is there any other issue that you wanted to mention or final thought for us? Dilyana Gaytandzhieva: I want to thank you for giving me the opportunity to speak up, for taking interest in probably one of the most important topics in our times. Because we have pandemic … No matter that now pandemic … Obviously, it seems to have ended because now the only news is Russia and Ukraine. So this only proves that this pandemic … I don’t say that it wasn’t serious. I myself had COVID and it’s … I didn’t end up in hospital, but it wasn’t the best experience in my life. So I don’t say it is not serious, but what I want to say is that what people … People need to be kept in fear by the governments, by the media. When you keep people in fear, you can so easily control them. This is an example about the pandemic about Russia because, for instance in my country, people are constantly forced to think that Russia is going to invade Bulgaria any moment. And they feel fear. That’s probably … Russia will come and we will occupy the whole of Europe. So this is how they work. All these propaganda tools of the governments. They use media to install fear, and to keep people in fear, constant fear. Be it the pandemic or the war or that it will end any moment, either because of the pandemic or because of nuclear war at Russia. And this is how it is so easy to manipulate and to control the masses when you install fear into them. And I want to thank you for not being afraid, for being such a brave journalist, and this makes me very optimistic and it motivates me because I know that there are many people out there like you, like me, who will stand up to such dangerous bio laboratories and we will join … I don’t know how to call it. Probably … The big problem is that we are not … We are single, or we are not united. Probably we need to think in that direction so that we are a force that cannot be dismissed so easily. Geopolitics & Empire: Yeah. I like to … I call myself a podcaster. Some people call me a journalist. But so far, I do a podcast. But I’m also, again, motivated by people like yourself. It’s a mutual motivation. The more people you see stepping out and being courageous, it’s contagious. And so this is what we need, I think. What’s the best place for people to follow your work and to support you? Is it Arms Watch? Dilyana Gaytandzhieva: I have been DDoS-ed for a year, year and a half. So now I’m using primarily my personal blog, Dilyana.bg. So I publish my articles there. And this DDoS attack started in 2020, in November of 2020, when I published one report on the Pentagon bio laboratory in the Lugar Center. So I don’t say that this constant d-dox attack is because of my investigation into these Pentagon bio laboratories. What I say is just that this d-dox attack, constant d-dox attack, it hasn’t ended even for a single day since 2020. It coincided with this investigation that I published back then. Geopolitics & Empire: It’s pretty clear what’s going on. I mean, if there are plenty of websites that are talking about stupid things that are not being attacked, and if you’re talking about something and you’re being attacked, it’s pretty clear what’s going on. In fact, my website yesterday was having some trouble so I don’t know what’s going on. So I will include all of your links in the description, your Twitter, your personal website Dilyana, as well as Arms Watch which is still there. And so I think people need to especially support you and even consider donating to you because your work is great, unique, groundbreaking. And so stay safe, Dilyana, and thank you for being on Geopolitics & Empire. Dilyana Gaytandzhieva: Thank you for having me. Outro: I hope you enjoyed this Geopolitics & Empire podcast. The website is geopoliticsandempire.com, and I encourage you to sign up for the free email list that goes out with each podcast and every weekend with a collection of news headlines. The newsletter and website are our last lines of defense. We’re being censored and de-platformed. It’s nearly impossible to find Geopolitics & Empire on the Google search engine. We’ve been blacklisted. YouTube frequently takes down our videos with strikes, Facebook restricts our page, Reddit and Twitter take down posts. 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We will continue to fight the good fight come hell or high water. Thank you for listening. About Dilyana Gaytandzhieva Dilyana Gaytandzhieva is a Bulgarian journalist and Middle East correspondent. Over the last two years she has published a series of reports on weapons supplies to terrorists in Syria and Iraq. In December of 2016 while reporting on the battle of Aleppo she discovered and filmed underground warehouses full of heavy weapons with Bulgaria as their country of origin. They were used by Al Nusra Front (the Al Qaeda affiliate in Syria which is designated as a terrorist organization by the UN). Diplomatic documents which were leaked to her revealed that these weapons were just a small part of a covert international weapons shipment network via 350 diplomatic flights for armament of terrorists in the Middle East and Africa. It was organized by USSOCOM, Saudi Arabia, and UAE. 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Dmitry Orlov discusses the Ukraine situation and Russia undoing 30 years worth of accumulated damage, while the West punishes itself attempting to thwart Moscow. He discusses the legality of Russia’s military incursion which is absolutely necessary in terms of its security. Putin’s goals are to militarily neutralize Ukraine, get rid of the Nazi extremists, and form a new legal structure. Regarding energy, the U.S. can’t go without Russia for more than a few months, Russia can go without the U.S. practically forever. Western hysteria threatens escalation of the conflict. Dmitry reveals the mystery of why Putin sits at the far end of the table. He feels the U.S. is destroying the dollar which will destroy American living standards. Western leaders are losing their electorate and he’s concerned of the mental damage that has occurred throughout the West and thinks living in a place of social cohesion will be important. Watch On BitChute / Brighteon / Rokfin / Rumble / YouTube Geopolitics & Empire · Dmitry Orlov: Russia’s Incursion Into Ukraine Necessary for Security #267 *Support Geopolitics & Empire! Become a Member https://geopoliticsandempire.substack.comDonate https://geopoliticsandempire.com/donationsConsult https://geopoliticsandempire.com/consultation **Visit Our Affiliates & Sponsors! Above Phone https://abovephone.com/?above=geopoliticseasyDNS (use code GEOPOLITICS for 15% off!) https://easydns.comEscape The Technocracy course (15% discount using link) https://escapethetechnocracy.com/geopoliticsPassVult https://passvult.comSociatates Civis (CitizenHR, CitizenIT, CitizenPL) https://societates-civis.comWise Wolf Gold https://www.wolfpack.gold/?ref=geopolitics Websites Club Orlov https://cluborlov.wordpress.com Patreon https://www.patreon.com/orlov SubscribeStar https://www.subscribestar.com/orlov Books Books https://www.amazon.com/Dmitry-Orlov/e/B001JSB23G/ref=sr_ntt_srch_lnk_2?qid=1544257309&sr=8-2 About Dmitry Orlov Dmitry Orlov is a Russian-American engineer and a writer on subjects related to “potential economic, ecological and political decline and collapse in the United States,” something he has called “permanent crisis”. Orlov believes collapse will be the result of huge military budgets, government deficits, an unresponsive political system and declining oil production. Orlov was born in Leningrad (now Saint Petersburg) and moved to the United States at the age of 12. He has a BS in Computer Engineering and an MA in Applied Linguistics. He was an eyewitness to the collapse of the Soviet Union over several extended visits to his Russian homeland between the late 1980s and mid-1990s. In 2005 and 2006 Orlov wrote a number of articles comparing the collapse-preparedness of the U.S. and the Soviet Union published on small Peak Oil related sites. Orlov’s article “Closing the ‘Collapse Gap’: the USSR was better prepared for collapse than the US” was very popular at EnergyBulletin.Net. Orlov’s book Reinventing Collapse:The Soviet Example and American Prospects, published in 2008, further details his views. Discussing the book in 2009, in a piece in The New Yorker, Ben McGrath wrote that Orlov describes “superpower collapse soup” common to both the U.S. and the Soviet Union: “a severe shortfall in the production of crude oil, a worsening foreign-trade deficit, an oversized military budget, and crippling foreign debt.” Orlov told interviewer McGrath that in recent months financial professionals had begun to make up more of his audience, joining “back-to-the-land types,” “peak oilers,” and those sometimes derisively called “doomers”. In his review of the book, commentator Thom Hartmann writes that Orlov holds that the Soviet Union hit a “soft crash” because of centralized planning in: housing, agriculture, and transportation left an infrastructure private citizens could co-opt so that no one had to pay rent or go homeless and people showed up for work, even when they were not paid. He writes that Orlov believes the U.S. will have a hard crash, more like Germany’s Weimar Republic of the 1920s. *Podcast intro music is from the song “The Queens Jig” by “Musicke & Mirth” from their album “Music for Two Lyra Viols”: http://musicke-mirth.de/en/recordings.html (available on iTunes or Amazon)

Cynthia Chung does a deep dive on the roots of the dystopian technocracy and scientific dictatorship that ruling elites are attempting to bring about. She covers the waterfront with the Huxleys, Darwin, Wells, Russell, and more. We get into Blavatsky, Bailey, and Crowley. She discusses how they have long desired a scientific dictatorship to curb the population as well as human creativity. Yuval Harari is a disciple of H.G. Wells and Bertrand Russell is very important to understand in the context of The Great Reset which is centered around transhumanism and cybernetics. Watch On BitChute / Brighteon / Rokfin / Rumble / YouTube Geopolitics & Empire · Cynthia Chung: The Esoteric & Eugenicist Roots of the Great Reset #266 *Support Geopolitics & Empire! Become a Member https://geopoliticsandempire.substack.comDonate https://geopoliticsandempire.com/donationsConsult https://geopoliticsandempire.com/consultation **Visit Our Affiliates & Sponsors! Above Phone https://abovephone.com/?above=geopoliticseasyDNS (use code GEOPOLITICS for 15% off!) https://easydns.comEscape The Technocracy course (15% discount using link) https://escapethetechnocracy.com/geopoliticsPassVult https://passvult.comSociatates Civis (CitizenHR, CitizenIT, CitizenPL) https://societates-civis.comWise Wolf Gold https://www.wolfpack.gold/?ref=geopolitics Show Notes Who Will Be Brave in Huxley’s New World? https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2021/10/17/who-will-be-brave-in-huxley-new-world Who Will Brave in Huxley’s New World: The War on Science and the 20th Century Descent of Man https://cynthiachung.substack.com/p/who-will-brave-in-huxleys-new-world The Origins of the Counterculture Movement: A Gathering of Anarchists, Occultists and Psychoanalysts for a New Age https://cynthiachung.substack.com/p/the-origins-of-the-counterculture Huxley’s Ultimate Revolution: The Battle for Your Mind and the Relativity of Madness https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2021/12/11/huxleys-ultimate-revolution-the-battle-for-your-mind-and-the-relativity-of-madness Websites Rising Tide Foundation https://risingtidefoundation.net Substack https://cynthiachung.substack.com Strategic Culture https://www.strategic-culture.org/contributors/cynthia-chung About Cynthia Chung Cynthia is Editor-in-Chief and co-founder of the Rising Tide Foundation. She has lectured on the topics of Schiller’s aesthetics, Shakespeare’s tragedies, Roman history, the Florentine Renaissance among other subjects. She is a writer for Strategic Culture Foundation, and is a contributing author to the book series “The Clash of the Two Americas.” *Podcast intro music is from the song “The Queens Jig” by “Musicke & Mirth” from their album “Music for Two Lyra Viols”: http://musicke-mirth.de/en/recordings.html (available on iTunes or Amazon)

David McHutchon is the leader of the newly founded Scottish political party Restore Scotland, whose aims include: Scottish independence, liberty of the individual, the sanctity of human life, and the wellbeing of the people of Scotland. He gives us a crash course on Scottish history, how the Scottish National Party (SNP) blew the 2014 referendum on independence, how all current political parties have become indistinguishable from each other, and how the government is actively seeking to restrict civil liberties. He discusses the dual struggle of Scotland becoming free from Britain as well as staying out of the EU and NATO. He discusses globalism and how elites are attempting to condition the population to accept absurdities and the jackboot. He emphasizes the importance of action. We also talk Kazakhstan, Ukraine, Russia, and apocalyptic geopolitics. Watch On BitChute / Brighteon / Rokfin / Rumble / YouTube Geopolitics & Empire · David McHutchon: An Independent Scotland Should Be Out of the UK, EU, & NATO #265 *Support Geopolitics & Empire! Become a Member https://geopoliticsandempire.substack.comDonate https://geopoliticsandempire.com/donationsConsult https://geopoliticsandempire.com/consultation **Visit Our Affiliates & Sponsors! Above Phone https://abovephone.com/?above=geopoliticseasyDNS (use code GEOPOLITICS for 15% off!) https://easydns.comEscape The Technocracy course (15% discount using link) https://escapethetechnocracy.com/geopoliticsPassVult https://passvult.comSociatates Civis (CitizenHR, CitizenIT, CitizenPL) https://societates-civis.comWise Wolf Gold https://www.wolfpack.gold/?ref=geopolitics Websites Restore Scotland https://restorescotland.org David McHutchon Twitter https://twitter.com/DavidMcHutchon Restore Scotland Twitter https://twitter.com/RestoreScot About Restore Scotland Restore Scotland is a Scottish political party, which was founded in 2020 on the 700th anniversary of the signing of the Declaration of Arbroath. The party stands for the independence of Scotland; the liberty of the individual; the value and the autonomy of the family; the sanctity of human life; and, the health and wellbeing of the people of Scotland. *Podcast intro music is from the song “The Queens Jig” by “Musicke & Mirth” from their album “Music for Two Lyra Viols”: http://musicke-mirth.de/en/recordings.html (available on iTunes or Amazon)

Alexandra Marshall gives us an update on how The Great Reset is faring in Australia, where it is struggling to keep its narrative alive as people are increasingly refusing to follow health orders. The biggest problem Covid has revealed is the shift in Western democracies to embracing collectivist thought. Australia is on the verge of passing the WEF’s Digital ID legislation which is an extension of the Covid surveillance system and is digital fascism. Russia and China are not pets of the WEF and are happy to let Klaus & Co. destroy the West with their program. China is determined to be the world’s superpower, meanwhile Russia wants to let Beijing fight the West to weaken both. Well-meaning conservatives misunderstand what Putin’s Russia actually is. She’s hopeful we can recover from the damage done by Davos. Watch On BitChute / Brighteon / Rokfin / Rumble Geopolitics & Empire · Alexandra Marshall: Russia & China Are Happy to Let Davos Destroy the West #264 *Support Geopolitics & Empire! Become a Member https://geopoliticsandempire.substack.comDonate https://geopoliticsandempire.com/donationsConsult https://geopoliticsandempire.com/consultation **Visit Our Affiliates & Sponsors! Above Phone https://abovephone.com/?above=geopoliticseasyDNS (use code GEOPOLITICS for 15% off!) https://easydns.comEscape The Technocracy course (15% discount using link) https://escapethetechnocracy.com/geopoliticsPassVult https://passvult.comSociatates Civis (CitizenHR, CitizenIT, CitizenPL) https://societates-civis.comWise Wolf Gold https://www.wolfpack.gold/?ref=geopolitics Show Notes The greater good – or a grander evil? https://www.spectator.com.au/2022/02/the-greater-good-or-a-grander-evil Did Australia buy tanks to protect Taiwan? https://www.spectator.com.au/2022/01/did-australia-buy-tanks-to-protect-taiwan Russia is empire-building while Australia sleeps https://www.spectator.com.au/2022/01/russia-is-empire-building-while-australia-sleeps Websites Elly Melly https://ellymelly.home.blog Spectator Australia https://www.spectator.com.au Twitter https://twitter.com/ellymelly Good Sauce https://goodsauce.news/author/alexandra-marshall The Vegas Take https://www.thevegastake.com Penthouse https://www.penthouse.com.au About Alexandra Marshall Alexandra Marshall (@ellymelly on social media) is the host of “Curtain Call”, a Good Sauce show exploring the leading personalities in the culture war. She writes on liberty, philosophy and geopolitics. You can find her on Twitter or read her articles over at her blog. Elly is also an AI database designer for the retail industry, contributor to multiple online journals and a Young Ambassador with Australians for Constitutional Monarchy. *Podcast intro music is from the song “The Queens Jig” by “Musicke & Mirth” from their album “Music for Two Lyra Viols”: http://musicke-mirth.de/en/recordings.html (available on iTunes or Amazon)

Johnny Vedmore discusses how he feels one phase of COVID1984 is coming to an end and more people are beginning to question things. He gives us a deep dive on Cobra Commander Klaus Schwab and the Malthusian eugenics of Davos and the Club of Rome. WEF has run Britain for the last 20 years. The Young Global Leaders have taken over every single position of power. We’re late to the party, we’re done, we have let them run us through. He gives his take on the nature of the pandemic, the Wellcome Trust, and believes intelligence agencies are really running the show, that there are no more remaining independent actors (e.g. multipolar world). A lot of people he talks to think the endgame is something like a biblical apocalypse. Watch On BitChute / Brighteon / Rokfin / Rumble Geopolitics & Empire · Johnny Vedmore: Every Position of Power Has Been Taken Over by WEF & Their Global Leaders #263 *Support Geopolitics & Empire! Become a Member https://geopoliticsandempire.substack.comDonate https://geopoliticsandempire.com/donationsConsult https://geopoliticsandempire.com/consultation **Visit Our Affiliates & Sponsors! Above Phone https://abovephone.com/?above=geopoliticseasyDNS (use code GEOPOLITICS for 15% off!) https://easydns.comEscape The Technocracy course (15% discount using link) https://escapethetechnocracy.com/geopoliticsPassVult https://passvult.comSociatates Civis (CitizenHR, CitizenIT, CitizenPL) https://societates-civis.comWise Wolf Gold https://www.wolfpack.gold/?ref=geopolitics Show Notes The Wellcome Five – The Proximal Origin of Covid Control https://johnnyvedmore.com/2022/02/08/the-wellcome-5 Schwab Family Values https://unlimitedhangout.com/2021/02/investigative-reports/schwab-family-values Websites Website https://johnnyvedmore.com Fungi Monkey https://www.fungimonkey.com Twitter https://twitter.com/JohnnyVedmore Unlimited Hangout https://unlimitedhangout.com About Johnny Vedmore Johnny Vedmore is a completely independent investigative journalist and musician from Cardiff, Wales. His work aims to expose the powerful people who are overlooked by other journalists and bring new information to his readers. If you require help, or have a tip for Johnny, then get in touch via johnnyvedmore.com or by reaching out to johnnyvedmore@gmail.com *Podcast intro music is from the song “The Queens Jig” by “Musicke & Mirth” from their album “Music for Two Lyra Viols”: http://musicke-mirth.de/en/recordings.html (available on iTunes or Amazon)

Cory Morningstar gives us a report from the front lines of the Great Reset in Canada. Everything the media says is a lie and you can forget about the whole left-right paradigm, this is a global class war and descent into fascism. Covid has been a huge catalyst and cover to unroll this huge reset of the global economic system, a project of Prince Charles. The British Commonwealth has just partnered with WHO to vaccinate the entire planet by July 2022 and is working with the World Bank in a huge campaign to get Digital Identity to everyone by 2030. The vaccine is a portal to the Digital ID. We’re going into global governance and the Digital ID is the umbilical cord to the Smart City. The conduit to the 4IR is your smartphone, for now. The eugenicist aspect of the program is simply a business decision (e.g. pension crisis). What you can access will be dependent on your level of compliance. Freedom, health, and your immune system will become a service or subscription. Watch On BitChute / Brighteon / Rokfin / Rumble Geopolitics & Empire · Cory Morningstar: This is a Complete Descent Into Global Fascism #262 *Support Geopolitics & Empire! Become a Member https://geopoliticsandempire.substack.comDonate https://geopoliticsandempire.com/donationsConsult https://geopoliticsandempire.com/consultation **Visit Our Affiliates & Sponsors! Above Phone https://abovephone.com/?above=geopoliticseasyDNS (use code GEOPOLITICS for 15% off!) https://easydns.comEscape The Technocracy course (15% discount using link) https://escapethetechnocracy.com/geopoliticsPassVult https://passvult.comSociatates Civis (CitizenHR, CitizenIT, CitizenPL) https://societates-civis.comWise Wolf Gold https://www.wolfpack.gold/?ref=geopolitics Websites Twitter https://twitter.com/elleprovocateur Telegram https://t.me/robinmg Wrong Kind of Green https://www.wrongkindofgreen.org The Art of Annihilation https://www.theartofannihilation.com About Cory Morningstar Cory Morningstar is an independent investigative journalist, writer and environmental activist, focusing on global ecological collapse and political analysis of the non-profit industrial complex. She resides in Canada. Her recent writings can be found on Wrong Kind of Green, The Art of Annihilation, and Counterpunch. Her writing has also been published by Bolivia Rising and Cambio, the official newspaper of the Plurinational State of Bolivia. *Podcast intro music is from the song “The Queens Jig” by “Musicke & Mirth” from their album “Music for Two Lyra Viols”: http://musicke-mirth.de/en/recordings.html (available on iTunes or Amazon)

Daniel McAdams returns to discuss the Ukraine crisis. Media coverage of the situation is absolutely abysmal and cartoonish, taking the role of stenographers for the intelligence community. The current crisis was precipitated by U.S. interventionism in the form of the 2014 Orange color revolution. Russia has a right to be concerned about existential issues and having Ukraine in NATO would objectively raise a serious concern for Moscow, especially in light of an openly hostile West. Blinken did his best Colin Powell presentation at the UN (e.g. Iraq WMDs) and there is a huge danger a false flag could lead to hostilities. This could be the beginning of the end for NATO. We’re seeing the tail end of the U.S. Empire. Watch on BitChute / Brighteon / Rokfin / Rumble Geopolitics & Empire · Daniel McAdams: What We’re Seeing in Ukraine is the Tail End of U.S. Empire #261 *Support Geopolitics & Empire! 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It’s been about two years since we last spoke, how is the new normal life in Texas? Daniel McAdams: Well, thanks again for having me, by the way, it’s great to be back on your great program. And Texas, we had a few bad months but the governor here looked over to Florida and realized that he actually could find a little bit of courage and so it’s basically been normal here for quite a long time. There are certainly some messages of the old regime with masks and people being nervous but basically you wouldn’t notice anything here, I think, these days. Geopolitics & Empire: Yeah, I’ve escaped to Mexico. I know a lot of people are escaping to Mexico but I do have a plan B or C that I’ve thought about going back to the US and the only places that I would go would be somewhere like Texas or Florida or similar such states. So to talk about Ukraine and Russia, so where was the invasion of Ukraine by Russia? Daniel McAdams: Well, it hasn’t happened as it was scheduled. In fact, somebody I think it was Garland Nixon posted a funny little tweet saying that, “Now the US is going to sanction Russia for not invading on the right schedule.” So that may well be what happens, it hasn’t invaded on their schedule. In fact, off camera, we were talking about a tweet that you retweeted from a guy I studied when I was in grad school, Edward Luttwak, who made the great point that the US intelligence community is claiming that Russia is about to have a full scale invasion of not just Eastern Ukraine but Ukraine and Kiev. And he said that the reckless gambling would go against the entire history of Putin’s behavior that we’ve seen so far and he says, “I’m not buying it.” So when someone of his stature, who’s not in anyone’s real camp says something like that, I think it’s time to listen to him. And that was a welcome tweet, I think. Geopolitics & Empire: Yeah, I’ve also studied Luttwak in graduate school and that’s someone to take his opinion. The situation in Ukraine is complicated and there are a lot of variables at play, the ones that stick out for me include the existential threat posed to Russia of Ukraine joining NATO, putting in their nuclear missiles and stationing them. And that’s a clear red line for Russia. Then we have energy and pipeline games and there’s a whole host of issues, there are irredentist issues regarding the breakaway republics. For you, what are some key geopolitical points here to understand that are driving the Ukraine crisis? Daniel McAdams: Well, there’re a couple of very important things I think, and most people paying attention will recognize the first, which is the media once again is absolutely abysmal. The mainstream media in the US and most of Europe is abysmal. It’s essentially the US media is taking the role of stenographers from the intelligence community, they’re not checking anything that’s reported, they’re doing the exact same things they did in the run up to war with Iraq, which is just repeating the most outlandish statements of people in the administration and in the think tank world in DC. So they’ve done an absolutely abysmal job and in fact Matt Taibbi has a good piece on his Substack today, just blasting the media for its behavior, for its performance. So I think that’s important but the one thing that we try to talk about on the Ron Paul Liberty Report every day, which is something that the media would never tell you. And that is that the current crisis in Ukraine, Russia, Eastern Ukraine was precipitated by US interventionism. They don’t want to admit this, they don’t want to talk about it but as the kids say, “We’ve got the receipts.” We’ve got the video of then Assistant Secretary of State, Victoria Nuland in the middle of the Maidan Square, handing out food to people who were intent on overthrowing the government. And on this is a point I made once on the Liberty Report, imagine if January 6th in America really was an insurrection and not just some goofy guys with Buffalo horns on their heads. Imagine it really was an insurrection and a senior Russian government official was down there, handing out food, egging them on and even as we know from the telephone call that was intercepted, even deciding who would run America after the insurrectionists were successful. Imagine how Americans would react to that? Yet this is exactly what happened in Ukraine in 2014 and you just never hear about it. Sponsor: A message from our sponsors. The Nomos app will help you survive COVID 1984 and the great reset. 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Go to BorderlessHealthInsurance.com to watch a short presentation on expat and digital nomad healthcare and sign up for a free consultation to review your options. Geopolitics & Empire needs funding, you can leave a donation, book a consultation or become a member, which gets you access to my brief weekly commentary, a monthly newsletter of my thoughts, a private telegram, a monthly member’s group call and my second premium broadcast called Dissident Thinker where I conduct interviews and provide solo analysis. Dissident Thinker is also available on a Rokfin and for supporters on Locals. Geopolitics & Empire: Yeah, that’s a key point. The Orange Color Revolution, I wrote my thesis on color revolutions back in Geneva. And what about the issue of Ukraine becoming a member of NATO? I think I heard some of Ukrainian officials backpedaling saying they might rethink that. Because that would create, I’ve heard, a first strike capability for the US where Russia wouldn’t be able to defend itself because at that point, NATO and the West could virtually take out all of Russia’s military installations and they’d have no way to defend themselves. That’s one thing I think about, what are some other key issues regarding Ukraine, NATO, US and Russia? Daniel McAdams: Well, the funny thing about Washington’s foreign-policy establishment, aside from them being virtually wrong at every single turn, is the fact that in their mind, the only country that has a right to have security interests, to be concerned about existential issues, as you mentioned earlier, is the United States, no one else’s security matters at all except for ours. And that would be fine but you have to realize that other countries face the same issues and as you point out, having Ukraine in NATO would raise objectively a very serious security concern for Russia. Particularly considering the [belacos 00:07:26] statements coming out of Washington for how long, since the reset back under Hilary Clinton, I would say since the end of the Cold War. So you have an openly hostile west denying any kind of validity to Russia security concerns, it’s a recipe for disaster. As far as Ukraine joining NATO. Well, technically that shouldn’t be allowed according to NATO’s charter because the country has a border of dispute with Russia in the Crimea issue. And even you might say in Donbas, there is a disputed border in that area. So technically they shouldn’t be eligible for NATO membership anyway. But of course, who follows rules anymore? But the person you mentioned, that was the Ukrainian Ambassador to the UK and he did float that idea out there, “Maybe we can back off a little bit from NATO.” And he was immediately slammed down and Zelenskyy, the president now was asked, I think it was today, about NATO and he said, “We have to guarantee our security and NATO is that guarantee.” So there’s no official back down but there certainly is something that, as we can tell at least, is on the minds of people. Geopolitics & Empire: And I want to go back to what you mentioned about the media. And for the people who understand, it’s a total repeat of Saddam Hussein and Colin Powell and weapons of mass destruction. But for me, things just seem to have gone to a further extreme where it’s cartoonish really, the level of the propaganda from the Western side. I mean, your thoughts on the cartoonishness of all of these allegations, as well as there’s censorship that we’re dealing with? Daniel McAdams: That’s a perfect term, cartoonish. I remember very well because I was working for Dr. Paul on Capitol Hill as we were moving toward the Iraq war. And I remember how devastating it was for our side when Colin Powell went to the UN and made his presentation. And it wasn’t devastating because his presentation was so convincing because it wasn’t, we knew at the time that it was garbage. It was devastating for us because of his stature, he’s perceived as a serious thinker, as someone with a lot of moral integrity. Well, what we saw on Thursday, which is when Secretary of State Tony Blinken went to the UN Security Council and did his best Colin Powell presentation was exactly, as you say, cartoonish, it was absurd, the points he made were laughable and his outline of how Russia will attack Ukraine was laughable. And at the very end, the cherry on top of his ridiculous performance was that, “Well, Russia may not invade after all and if they don’t, we’ll be glad that they followed our guidelines and reversed their course.” So basically wanting to take political credit for something that the Russians have said all along they have no intention of doing. It’s like if I keep claiming you’re going to shoot me and you say, “I’m not going to shoot you,” and you end up not shooting me and you’re saying, “Well, I’m certainly go glad you changed course on that shooting me thing.” Geopolitics & Empire: Yeah. And since you brought up Blinken, I had that question as well. So he was there at the UN accusing Russia and every day they’re saying they’re about to carry out a false flag operation. That’s one point where for the longest time anyone talking about false flag is a conspiracy theorist so I guess now Blinken and Washington, the government are conspiracy theorists. And as well, I was reading in Politico, the NATO Secretary General, Jens Stoltenberg, he as well was accusing Russia of false flag operations. And if we talk about false flags, I would think it would come first from Kiev or Washington, they’re the ones who most carry out these kinds of things. The last time was the chemical provocations in Syria, those were false flags by the West. And so there are some reports that a kindergarten was shelled today by the Ukrainian side, possibly, which may have been a false flag attempt. What are your thoughts on this false flag talk and whether someone will actually try to stage a false flag? Daniel McAdams: I think it’s a very important and very concerning point. And we’ve said all along, “Russia is not going to invade Ukraine. Russia does not want to take Kiev. It doesn’t want to have the responsibility of this basket case of a country.” But that doesn’t mean that Russia will not abide by its very clearly stated position that we will intervene in Donbas if Kiev starts attacking Russian citizens of which there are, some say, as many as 750,000 Russian passport holders living in that part of Eastern Ukraine and Russia has been very clear, “We will protect these people.” And that’s why I am still very concerned because anything could happen. The shelling of a kindergarten is just the kind of a thing that can raise tensions to a high level. Now there has been shelling going on since 2015 on both sides of this. And it does happen, there has been an uptick lately, the US has pulled its OSCE monitors out of the area, I think other Western countries have done the same. So there’s a real danger here and it happened remember in, was it in Iraq? And in Kosovo. There’s a danger when you pull out the monitors, even that there may be one or two honest ones that might be able to say, “No, those shells came from the Ukrainian side, it wasn’t from the pro-Russia side.” There is a huge danger and I see an uptick right now in this, all it’ll take is a few more kindergartens and maybe a hospital or two to be shelled by Russia that you’ll see some action. So definitely action is very possible but not in the way the US is predicting. Geopolitics & Empire: I may be mistaken, I’m not sure if it was my Croatian President Milanović or others who have said that this Ukraine fiasco is nothing more than a wagging of the dog by the Biden administration to distract from domestic problems in America. What are your thoughts there? Daniel McAdams: In fact, I think there was an MEP from Croatia that just made a great statement about that. In fact, I just noticed it on Twitter, he made an excellent statement saying that exact same thing. And even President Zeman from the Czech Republic had an interview that came out today where he was talking about, “This is the Iraq war all over again. The US CIA continually lies us into war.” And this is a NATO partner, the president of a NATO partner country saying, “These guys are full of crap. They’re doing nothing but lying to us and they continuously lie.” Geopolitics & Empire: I also had a question since I mentioned Biden. We’ve heard in the past, Joe Biden, I think when he was at the CFR talking about how he had a deal with the Ukrainian president and if he didn’t do what he wanted, he would withhold funds, 5 million or something. And then we have the issues with Hunter Biden connection in corruption in Ukraine. And so what effect do you think the Hunter Biden and Joe Biden dealings in corruption have on the current Ukraine crisis? Daniel McAdams: Yeah, I think there’s a lot there and I love to talk about it in the US media. But it was a $1 billion loan guarantee that was on the table when Joe Biden said, “You have to fire this chief prosecutor or you don’t get the money.” And apparently what the chief prosecutor was doing was investigating his own son, Hunter Biden’s nefarious activities in Ukraine. He is a well known oil and gas expert, for 50,000 a month, he was being paid. But I think there is a lot of corruption and I think probably Biden is afraid of having some of this get out. I don’t know to what extent it drives it, I think certainly to a very large extent what drives the current conflict is the fact that you have the holdovers from the Obama administration, which was behind the 2014 coup, they’re the ones in the driver’s seat right now. I mean, anyone who thinks of Biden himself is really in the driver’s seat, I don’t know about that. I mean, I’ve seen the guy talk and I don’t know, he’s not even in the passenger seat, right? He’s in the backseat. You have people like Jake Sullivan who is increasingly coming under suspicion for his role in the fake Russiagate, spying on Candidate Trump and then President Trump affair. These people are deeply corrupt and deeply compromised people but they are so absolutely full of themselves and certain of their rights, so full of hubris, that is a really dangerous combination. Geopolitics & Empire: Yeah. You mentioned NATO and I caught the news today or yesterday, some European MEP, I think from some Nordic country, Heidi something, she was discussing and promoting the idea of opening NATO membership to all of the European member states now. How do you think these events will affect the EU and NATO? Some people are talking about this splitting NATO and Europe, maybe it will strengthen, maybe it will push Europe towards the trajectory of a EU army. I mean, what are your thoughts on NATO and EU at this stage? Daniel McAdams: Well, someone I respect very much is Colonel Doug MacGregor, he’s an old friend of mine and he’s got a very strong view about this. So he views this as the beginning of the end of NATO. He feels that there is a realization now when you see what objectively is true, a lot of Russian forces on the move, whether they were all involved in military exercises or whether it was a show of force or whether some combination of the two. Very clearly Colonel MacGregor said on Sky News Australia, that basically the Russians have been able to control the airspace from the Gulf of Finland to the Black Sea. And his view, and I tend toward listening certainly to what he says, is that Germany is going to start realizing that this Eurasia sphere is an area that the Americans are not capable of protecting them in. They will not have the security guaranteed by the US that they may have had in the past and this is a great example. But if Putin had decided, “We’re going in, we’re taking the whole place.” There is literally nothing the United States could have done to stop it. We had, as the Colonel put out, some light infantry forces and he called it, “Almost a joke.” So there is going to be a realization among serious European countries, and I don’t mean the Baltics certainly because they’re not serious, that NATO is a paper tiger, it’s incapable of doing what it was actually conceived to do, which is to protect Europe from then Soviet expansionism. It’s a paper tiger and I do hope he’s right in this, he sees the beginning of the end of NATO in this fiasco we’re witnessing now. Geopolitics & Empire: Yeah, it’s funny you mentioned paper tiger. Well, I was going to ask if you would agree that many of my past guests, Patrick Armstrong, who I interviewed, Canadian former defense, well, he worked in defense policy. He used the term, when I talk with him about NATO, paper pussycat or paper tiger. And I have interviewed Russian military expert Andrei Martyanov and so many others that come to the consensus that Russia militarily has the upper hand, in a conventional war Russia wins hands down against NATO or the West in Europe, especially with the assistance from China. And so would you agree? Daniel McAdams: Well, it’s their backyard just as if we went to war with Mexico that was backed by Paraguay or something. I mean, it’s their back door, it’s their backyard, it’s the area they care about most. And when you’re talking about… The US military is the most expensive on the planet, we spend an enormous amount of money but the money we spend in the military is not going predominantly toward readiness, predominantly toward having a strong fighting force or having the best weapons. The enormous amount of money that the United States spends on its military is toward extremely expensive, extremely high-tech weapons systems that do not work, F-35 and so on and so on and so on, go down the line. The military industrial complex gets rich off of these very expensive, very highly technical pieces of military work. And my old friend, Chuck Spinney, who’s been in his career in the Pentagon studying this and he still writes a lot about procurement and how it leads toward the US having a weaker rather than a stronger military. Certainly someone to talk with about this. But we have a very large and expensive military but it’s not the kind of military we need, certainly not to protect this country. Geopolitics & Empire: Yeah, it’s interesting. I think Finland just bought 64 F-35s. Daniel McAdams: Good luck with that. Have fun. Someone made the joke because one of them went off of a carrier a couple weeks ago and someone said, “They have more success as a submarine than as a fighter jet right now.” Geopolitics & Empire: Yeah. And my past guest Martyanov discusses how the Russian, I think SU-35 they’re called, they’re much better than F-35s. I read today also that Lukashenko just said that he and Putin or Russia and Belarus are discussing what to do with the breakaway republics of Donetsk and Lugansk. What do you think is going to happen there? Is that just going to be an issue that festers for a while or that it might be incorporated into Russia? Daniel McAdams: Well, all of the brilliant Russia watchers inside the US Beltway will disagree but the fact of the matter is, if you look at Putin’s behavior objectively as head of Russia, he’s not a gambler, he’s not a risk taker. In fact, he gets a lot of flack from people in Russia because he isn’t. And the exact issue you mentioned, the recognition of these two republics, that was put forth by the Communist Party, which is the largest opposition party in Russia. They are pushing him, some of the MPs from his own party are pushing him to be more radical but he’s always been a very cautious leader. And what I think is that if he, and this is speculation, but from everything that I’ve seen, that is his Ace card and I don’t think he wants to play it now, I don’t think it’s a card that needs to be played, I think he can start raising… If we can dial this down some, I think the issue that will be raised and Blinken made the issue today, of course he lied about it at the UN Security Council, but the issue of the Minsk accords. If we bring this to the table, which of course provided for a level of autonomy for the breakaway republics, if we return to a Minsk with Ukraine acting in better faith than they have in the past, I think for Putin that is far preferable than basically playing that final Ace or even call it a nuclear option, not technically, not literally but it would be that. So I don’t think it’s a time that he’s going to play it right now, I could be wrong. Geopolitics & Empire: It’s not always easy for me to come up with the best questions or all the necessary questions. So before I continue, what other issues are important for you when we’re talking about Ukraine, US, Russia and the wider region, China even? Daniel McAdams: I just think it’s how far things have gone in the Western media. I watch these people in the reporting and it is so bad, it is so brainless. And this goes from Fox News on the right to MSNBC on the left. I mean, all of these stations, all of these outlets are united in this very ignorant pro-war stance. All of the experts in DC are always wrong all the time and when you have an empire that’s based on lies, it’s inherently weak, it’s inherently subject to implosion. And I think we’re seeing the tail land of the US empire. I made a comment on our show the other day, after World War II, the British didn’t realize at first that their empire was gone, they still thought they ruled the world and then they woke up and realized, “Oh, guess what? We don’t have the power we thought.” And that’s, I think, how it’s going to happen with the US. I think it is essentially over, they just don’t realize it yet because they all still believe all the BS and all the lies that they’re telling each other. Geopolitics & Empire: Well, I mean, since you mentioned that, I’d agree with you. One of the reasons I left the US 15 years ago, for many reasons, but it was also because I saw this decline. And there are different versions, people think it’s going to be some big collapse or that’ll just be like a slow fart. So what are your thoughts on the implications of the collapse? We could see people talk about things as extreme as the Civil War and disintegration in that sense or will it just be like what happened in Britain’s case where things just slowly decline? Daniel McAdams: Well, I think again, a lot of the so called foreign policy analysts and Russia experts, they tend to look at the world through a very small tunnel and they tend to talk to each other in an echo chamber. But I think if you step back and you look at the larger picture, which of course your podcast is dedicated to geopolitics, I think in the US the end will be precipitated not by a military defeat necessarily but by a defeat that comes at the hands of a broken economy, of a Federal Reserve that has printed money figuratively and literally to the trillions and trillions and trillions to the point where the US can no longer sustain. And we’re already seeing the squeeze on the middle class with inflation, the inflation tax is the most evil tax because certainly it hurts the poor and the middle class more than it hurts the wealthy. If steak goes up by three bucks or if a hamburger goes up by a buck, a pound is not going to hurt Jeff Bezos but it’s going to hurt the guy who’s working for a living. This is where it ends, it ends with the Fed because the Fed created this massive bubble, the Fed created the military bubble, we wouldn’t be able to spend a trillion dollars a year on this military machine if it wasn’t from funny money produced by the Fed. So it all comes down to economics, it will simply implode on the weight of its own economic contradictions. Geopolitics & Empire: I would totally agree with that. The inflation we’re seeing, in my lifetime I haven’t seen anything compared to what we’re seeing now and it’s just going to get really bad. And that’s actually one of the things that prevents me from coming back to the US is this increasing inflation and high cost of living where here in Mexico, it’s much more manageable. Do you think at some point, by hook or by crook, by some stupid mistake or even a false flag, the West may end up in a real serious military conflict configuration with Russia, perhaps some of its allies and the East? And whether the danger of it being a localized proxy war in Europe or even something bigger that could lead to escalating to the nuclear threshold or some type of global war? Daniel McAdams: Well, I think that’s always possible but I do think that the US knows very well, as we talked about just a few minutes ago, this is a war it cannot win, it doesn’t have the ability to get troops and to get equipment there in time to do what it needs to do. This is a war it can’t win and that’s why even President Biden, for all of his problems and I don’t know how extensive they are but we can probably guess, he has even said, “I’m not sending troops to Ukraine,” meaning I’m not getting involved militarily. He’s going to maybe add some more sanctions or something. The US knows that there is no military option with Russia over Ukraine so what’s left is just trash talking and harsh rhetoric and I think the Russians have seen through it. I forget which official it was, but there was a Russian official that recently said, “We don’t give an S-H-I-T about your sanctions.” And I think that’s probably the mood, they’re ready to call the bluff and it is a big bluff. So I think there is a risk, there’s always a risk of error. You talk about grad school and international relations, you probably read Graham Ellison who did a great analysis of the Cuban Missile Crisis. There are mistakes that can be made, especially when you’re mirror imaging your own values onto that of your adversary and when you’re talking in echo chamber. But I think in a rational sense, the US understands that this is an impossibility. We lost in Afghanistan after 20 years so I don’t know that it’s time to start taking on a Russia and a Russia that at least in terms of rhetoric is being backed by China right now. Geopolitics & Empire: Yeah. And speaking of China, in terms of world order, where do we go from here? Is the multipolar world emerging now, Russia and China and a new system coming about? What are your thoughts on where we go from here? Daniel McAdams: Well, ironically and part partially, I think that these people are just so stupid. The people in charge in the US are just so stupid. But then I have to wonder, “Are they stupid or are they evil or what combination?” Because everything that the US claims it’s trying to prevent, it’s actually promoting. If the US wants to undermine China, the last thing you do is push China and Russia into each other’s arms, which is what it’s doing. And the same is true with Iran, we have tight sanctions all around Iran and so China says, “Hey, we’ll buy some of your oil. Let’s get together, let’s have some trade.” So everything that the US claims, that these brilliant experts claim they’re trying to prevent, they’re actually promoting. So again, stupidity, evil, a combination, who knows? Geopolitics & Empire: All right. Do you have any final thought for us then? Daniel McAdams: Well, I appreciate the opportunity to talk about this, I think it’s a very serious situation. My concern is that we are being led by idiots, people that are full of themselves, people who make a lot of money off of conflict, who don’t care about the rest of America. We’re tarnished as being pro-Russia when in fact, the people who want to avoid a potentially life threatening for the entire planet nuclear war, are pro-life, are pro-American, it’s pro-American to not want to have a massive trillion dollar military empire protecting everyone else’s borders but our own. So with that, thank you very much for the opportunity to talk to your listeners and I appreciate the time. Geopolitics & Empire: All right. And just one more note, apart from Ronpaulinstitute.org, is there any other website or project that we should know about? Daniel McAdams: Yeah. 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Michael Rectenwald returns to discuss the ESG Index or “woke capitalism” as a selection mechanism or demarcation device to delineate which businesses are onboard with The Great Reset and punish those who are not compliant. It is effectively a Social Credit System for companies, feeding investments toward the compliant while starving dissident firms, competition, and industries. This sets up the possibility for doing to companies what is being done to individuals in Canada right now, de-banking them and freezing their assets, and is totalitarian in nature. This global government combines the worst of both systems (capitalism and communism). We discuss the WEF Young Global Leaders program, the threat posed by the people who don’t see COVID1984 for what it is, resistance, and parallel structures. 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You best get this book and read it because judging by events in Canada, the hunger games have officially commenced and we are now in thick of the Google Archipelago where you can have your bank account frozen for donating money to truckers. Michael, how are you doing? And how are you enjoying the Google Archipelago? Michael Rectenwald: I’m hanging in there very well. It’s great to be back. So yeah, I’m looking forward to our talk. Geopolitics & Empire: Yeah. I think you were ill for a while now and you recovered? Michael Rectenwald: Oh, yes. I had COVID and went in twice to the hospital. The first time was for COVID itself, but then really, I left the hospital and then the medications they gave me made me sicker than anything. I was given some anticoagulants that ended up causing me to have intestinal bleeding, which almost killed me. So the second time I went into the hospital, I was under respiratory failure. I couldn’t breathe at all. So they had to put me on a ventilator. I was completely unconscious. They put me on a ventilator and everybody that knew me thought this is a 50-50 chance to survive once you’re on the ventilator. I was on that for three days, but I didn’t know that. I woke up and I was in the ICU and just said, “Well, how long have I been here?” And they said, “Three days.” I was like, “What? I had lost them completely.” So I was in 12 days in the ICU in a couple more days in the regular hospital bed. And oh boy, I couldn’t walk when I got out. I couldn’t do anything. I mean, I was so weak. I lost 50 pounds. It was intense. Geopolitics & Empire: Yeah. I was shocked when I saw you posting that on Facebook and Twitter and your social media. I was like I couldn’t believe it, but glad that you recovered. Michael Rectenwald: Thank you. Geopolitics & Empire: In our previous interview, I think it was eight, nine months ago, which people should go back and watch, you laid the foundation for the great reset, Google Marxism, as you call it. This one world monopoly of government or global socialism. Today, will be maybe a bit more of like a graduate level course where we dig deeper into more of the technical aspect such as the Environmental, Social and Governance Index, ESG, which is a Chinese style, social credit score for rating corporations. Your latest piece on mises.org details this. Incredibly, there are still many people who have no idea what ESG means that they gave me blank faces. And even still some who don’t understand the social credit system. So maybe we can start with the ESG. Michael Rectenwald: Yeah. So the ESG, the Environmental, Social, and Governance Index is an index on the stock exchanges, of course. And it is a means by which corporations are rated along these criteria. So environmental of course has to do with their carbon footprint and their sustainability practices. Social really comes down to social justice precepts. How well are they abiding by social justice precepts in terms of how many… What’s the constitution identity wise of their board members of their management, of their staff, and so on and so forth. So it’s kind of like the diversity, equity, and inclusion element. And then governance really refers to what’s their corporate governance like but also how well do they interact with the state? How well do they abide by state law and policy? So what it’s doing is I’ve been reading some people. Even a Marxist. I just read a Marxist who argues that wokeness in effect is a means for differentiating between the elite and the others. It’s a selection mechanism. Similarly, the ESG, which is wokeness in capitalism, this is woke capitalism is a mechanism by which you differentiate between woke corporations and non-woke. It’s a selection mechanism. It’s a demarcation device in order to separate out the non-compliant from the compliant. And then it effectively feeds investments toward the compliant and away from the non-compliant. As I see it, it’s a way of starving off competition, starving off industries and starving off players within industries who are non-abiding, who are not compliant with the agenda. In my way of thinking, it establishes kind of a woke cartel or a set of woke cartels. I mean, if you look at the major investment asset managers, all of them are totally down with this. All 10 of the top 10, especially BlackRock, and Vanguard, and State Street and UBS, they’re completely down with this. I mean, Larry Fink of BlackRock puts out these letters every year. He put one on in January 18th. And it’s basically, he throws down the stakeholder or the ESG gauntlet. If you do not abide by these precepts, you will be starved out of capital. You will not survive. Competitors will come and replace you. He puts it exactly like that. You’ll be replaced. So it’s a kind of cancellation. Just as in the social realm, individuals are canceled. They’re canceling corporations in the same way. And interestingly, they’re differentially diverting funds to China, Chinese companies. So it’s a really unbelievable development. I was reading the UN. There’s a ton of UN programs that are all about this. There’s the principles of banking, principles of asset management and principles of insurance. They have 4,700 investment firms, banks, and asset managers signed on to this. 4,700. And the World Economic Forum is a major player in pushing it. I’ve been looking into this for a while. I think that Klaus Schwab is actually the inventor of this idea of stakeholder capitalism, which is to benefit stakeholders as opposed to, or in addition to shareholders. Stakeholder capitalism is the premise for the ESG. It’s the guiding principle for the ESG of which is the mechanism for enforcing stakeholder capitalism. It goes back to 1971 and Schwab’s first book, which title sort of eludes me, but it was published in ’71 when he founded the precursor to the World Economic Forum. He’s been pushing this stakeholder. He and the WEF have been pushing this stakeholder idea for decades. So now it’s completely embedded and infiltrated. All corporate America and corporations broadly across the world, all the entire banking industry. So this is the premise that sets up the possibility for doing to companies what is being done to individuals in Canada right now, de-banking them, defunding them, freezing their assets. This is all part of the same campaign. It is wokeness writ large. And wokeness is not some sort of a funny, silly ideology that’s just for making fights on Twitter. This really a major demarcation device in order to separate the wheat from the chaff, the wheat being them. In their case, that’s how they think of it. The chaff being everybody who is not on board. 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Go to borderlesshealthinsurance.com to watch a short presentation on expat and digital nomad healthcare and sign up for a free consultation to review your options. Geopolitics & Empire needs funding. You can leave a donation, book a consultation, or become a member, which gets you access to my brief weekly commentary, a monthly newsletter of my thoughts, a private Telegram, a monthly member’s group call, and my second premium broadcast called Dissident Thinker where I conduct interviews and provide solo analysis. Dissident Thinker is also available on a Rokfin and for supporters on locals. Geopolitics & Empire: The timing is interesting you mentioned where I’ve seen that as well, where Schwab came up with this in this ’70, ’71. The timing is interesting because some people say that our economic system, the Bretton Woods System from 1944 died because that’s when Nixon pulled gold away from the dollar. So some people say that’s when the Bretton Woods system died. So it’s funny how he comes in at that moment. It’s like they were preparing the next economic system, which we’re now seeing go live. And what you just detailed sounds like classic totalitarianism. We’ve seen in the communist systems they’ve created the cultural revolutions, the communist class, the elite class, and then all of the rest who don’t comply are like the dissidents and off to the gulags or in the Nazi system, the Jews and gypsies and others were sent to ghettos. It’s just kind of like what you just detailed is you’re creating this two class society, this totalitarian in nature. Michael Rectenwald: Yes. It is totalitarianism, but there’s a few steps that you have to get to, to understand why it is totalitarian. And one of them is to realize that, first of all, they’re creating this stakeholder capitalism, which is Schwab’s brainchild, as far as I can tell, that his first book was the first place to introduce this idea. That stakeholders have to be served as well as stockholders. But it goes to the point that the governance of states are basically corporate entities in junction with states in order to enforce these precepts and to enforce this particular ideology that’s political through and through. It’s a way of destroying opposition. It’s a way of destroying opposition. So this is why it’s totalitarian. It’s using a political mechanism in order to invade the economy, completely infiltrate the economy and make the economy utterly politicized. And that’s exactly what’s happening in Canada right now. Unbelievably, they’re seizing bank accounts. Not seizing, but freezing bank accounts in order to silence and destroy these protestors. So this is a sign of things to come. And for those in the United States who think this wouldn’t happen here, if we had the same scenario going on here, which supposedly in the near future, we may with the truckers ready to go from, I think, Los Angeles to DC, then it’ll happen here as well. This is no question in my mind. These people are the same. Birds of the same feather. Both of them said that they admire dictatorships and dictatorships would be so much easier to run. Of course, how much they admire China’s dictatorship. So Trudeau said that, Biden said it. They all say this. They’re on the same playbook. It’s unbelievable how much they’re on this playbook. And this is why I say it’s internationalist, because they’ve got all these players signed on to the same precepts, signed on to the same playbook. Basically, there’s regional elements of a global system really that’s what’s going on. Geopolitics & Empire: Yeah. I just had a brief comment there in what you brought up. For years, people like ourselves have been discussing all of this. I was looking back through my archives. Way back in 2015, I was talking to Katherine Albrecht on this coming dystopia. In 2019, I spoke with technocracy expert, Patrick Wood precisely about the social credit system. In 2020, I spoke with Jewish historian, Edwin Black on the algorithm ghetto. In 2021 with yourself, and been waiting for the moment to arrive at some future point. You just kind of mentioned, it’s coming. We see now in Canada. I think it’s here and it’s global. It’s happening in China. It’s happening in other countries, as you mentioned in Canada. I think today, Italian prime minister, Mario Draghi suspended over half a million Italians over the age of 50 from their jobs, leaving them without salaries and declaring the unvaccinated are not part of society, which for me is also like the ESG, because they’re not complying with the social decrees of the state and so therefore their job is turned off. Their financial support is turned off. Funny this weekend, I was talking to a low-level Mexican government functionary who was telling me to my face, “Yes, if the experts say vaccine passports aka social credit system are necessary, then I believe them.” And screw the people who don’t want to submit. Let them be unable to work or buy food or travel.” And also today fame economist, Richard Werner was tweeting that the ECB is getting ready to kill thousands of banks in the Eurozone in the coming five years. So I feel like, “Wow, it’s starting now.” It’s just starting in Canada. It’s starting in the US and in other countries. It’s live now. I mean, what do you think? Michael Rectenwald: It’s live. I mean, it’s been in play in terms of setting it up for some time. I wrote about that in Google Archipelago. Now, this could maybe rub the wrong way with some viewers, but I’m going to say it anyway. I think it’s a leftist authoritarianism and the leftist totalitarianism. Now, that doesn’t mean all the left is on board with it. I’ve been reading some works from these so-called red pill Marxist who I find the frog Marxian element of the Twitterverse to be quite interesting. They’re saying similar things that we are. They see what we’re talking about. They see the totalitarianism and they know it’s coming from the left generally. And they’re resisting it because these people don’t want what happened in the Soviet. They call this the Soviet Union in America, basically where we are in now in the United States. And that’s pretty apt to characterization. Geopolitics & Empire: Yeah. It’s funny. I had someone reach out wanting to be on the podcast who’s written a few books. A young person who’s a hardcore Marxist, but he’s a Marxist against this COVID dictatorial regime. So I’ll see if he’ll come on. But it’s interesting what you said. I wanted to go back kind of… We may have talked about this before, but I think it’s important. The structure of this global government. You said that Klaus calls it… And I saw him recently come out and say, “It’s a public, private partnership.” Michael Rectenwald: Partnership. Geopolitics & Empire: In one way, it’s like the worst of both worlds. Monopoly, capitalism. The worst parts of extreme capitalism where it’s total private monopoly power and communism where it’s state monopoly put together and we get something like a bio fascist technocracy. My recent guest who’s also a leftist, Kees van der Pijl described how long ago the UN had been co-opted by these special interests as well as the national governments including China and Russia are all on board. I mean, what are your latest thoughts on the mechanisms of this global government structure. Michael Rectenwald: It’s a corporate state hybrid, which is completely unaccountable to constituents in national governments. There’s no voting on any of this. The public, private partnership motif, if you will, in order to establish this. So you have corporations effectively involved in governance. Of Course, none of these people were elected. So this is completely undemocratic. They’re infiltrating all the states, if they’re not already completely embedded in them. They’re dictating policy through state apparatuses. So they’re effectively part of the state. So yes, it’s the worth of… This is exactly what Giorgio Agamben said. This is the worst of both systems. It’s communist capitalism, if you will. That state run communism with capitalist corporations embedded in the state. This is the worst scenario you can imagine. It takes the worst of both worlds. Let’s face it, I’ve never said anything is perfect and certainly pure capitalism wouldn’t be perfect, but it’s what I aspire to. And I think what we should aspire to, because it’s the only state of freedom, but it took the worst elements of capitalism that is this tendency towards monopoly and combined it with the worst elements of communism, state communism, which is state dictatorship over the economy and everything else. And put them into one. And this is what we’ve got. It’s so hard for people to get a handle on what’s happening. You can’t categorize it very easily and I’ve been working on this for months, if not years, at this point in characterizing it and giving it a name. It’s economic fascism, strictly speaking. It’s what I call corporate socialism. That’s corporate oligarchies in conjunction with the state on top and actually existing socialism for everybody else inclusive of the repressive and oppressive and discriminatory, and jack boot elements of socialism on the ground. Geopolitics & Empire: I would respectfully correct some of our leftist listeners with their view of, let’s say capitalism and conservatism. They kind of paint it automatically as this right wing fascism. Myself as a conservative and believer in basic capitalism is that we are… In general, conservatives are against concentration of power of any kind, whether it’s financial or political. Michael Rectenwald: Right. Geopolitics & Empire: So we’re skeptical that power corrupts. Absolutely. We’re not in favor of financial capital concentrating this private capital concentrating nor for the state whereas leftists have this great faith in the state and they’re okay with having this power concentrated in public institutions which is a huge danger. Now, we’re seeing this run roughshod and some of them are doubling down. We’ve seen some of the extreme leftists are doubling down like there’s people like CJ Hopkins, who’s a more reasonable leftist, I think has been calling out other leftists such as Ben Norton who was writing for gray zone with Max Blumenthal and Max Blumenthal woke up to the COVID1984 and started talking about it. And Ben Norton had to leave because he’s still totally pro big pharma. It’s also confusing. Michael Rectenwald: Well, it’s very messed up, but here’s the one I understand why leftist have less of a problem with corporate monopolies than we think they would, because it has something very much in common with socialism. And that is to say what is socialism, if not a monopoly? So it’s a state monopoly over everything. So they actually end up favoring monopolies over other things. I mean, Jacobin, I think we talked about this before ran an article about how small business is overrated and really big corporations treat us much better. They give us benefits and they allow unionization and so forth. So we shouldn’t be fighting for small business rights and so forth. So really they actually tip their hats to the corporate monopolies. So they have less problem with corporate monopolies. Also, they don’t understand that the state enables all this. If it weren’t for the state, there wouldn’t be this kind of concentration of power because that’s their enablers. That’s how monopolies gets established through state power. In particular, I don’t agree with Marx that monopolization is an inevitable part of capitalism. It’s really inevitable when the state is involved which they are. They have become the state now at this point. That’s what’s happened. Geopolitics & Empire: I wanted to go back for a second to what we were talking about the ESGs. And maybe if you could just go a step further and detail viscerally more what this would look like for a company to be run out by ESG or even individuals. I guess we may have seen some examples now of Mike Lindell, the pillow guy. So banks are now un-banking him. And just the businesses in general opposing mandates being shut down here in Mexico now. In some parts of Mexico in the city where I live, businesses who are not complying with the vaccine certificates. Government agents like the Stasi are going out and somehow… I mean, it’s illegal, but somehow the government is just… They call it clausurado. Just shutting down the business. They shut it down. They put a big sign that says shut down and you can’t do your business. People like me, I’ve been kicked off of Patreon. Others like Ryan Christian of the Last American Vagabond has been taken off of PayPal. I mean, how do you envision this actually looking like? Michael Rectenwald: Yeah, with the ESG. So we already see cancellation of companies based on political affiliation, like My Pillow or in the case of big tech firms. Of course, various firms being canceling and canceled themselves for that matter. But this is different. The ESG is different in that it institutionalizes this mechanism. It’s not just going out and targeting people in some sort of haphazard fashion, finding somebody who says something wrong and de-banking them and so forth. It is an institutionalized mechanism for destroying companies. So through the ESG, what happens is you just have investments flowing away from these companies. And Fink has made this very clear. Basically he said… Here, let me just give you a quote. He says, “At the foundation of capitalism is the process of constant reinvention. How companies must continually evolve as the world around them changes. Or the risk of being replaced by new competitors.” So corporations that are to be replaced are those that don’t abide by the ESG score. This is very, very much on the table. And it’s happening. It’s well underway. Geopolitics & Empire: Do you think it would still be possible if there was a company, maybe a smaller company, not a big corporation that was running its business well, didn’t have a lot of debt, had a lot of cash savings that they would be able to withstand the ESG? Michael Rectenwald: Yes. I think some companies will be able to withstand it. But with their doing is loading them up with a tremendous amount of bureaucratic red tape and reporting, which is extremely difficult. Now, the one way these companies like that could survive is by other people becoming aware of them and investing in them, frankly. In fact, there are non or anti ESG indexes out there, or funds already established. One of them is MAGA, but there are others. Now, one is called Bad because they in alcohol and gambling. And they’re not woke at all. And there’s others out there as well. There is these funds that you can invest in that are explicitly anti-woke. This is not an investment show and I’m certainly not an advisor. So I don’t mean to do that. And I know that investments and companies is a very, shall we say, privileged position to be in the first place. But if you do have any money in the stock market, by chance, by virtue of a 401k or whatever, try to get it out of there and get it away from the ESG abiding and ESG reporting companies and managers certainly. But this is almost impossible for many state employees because BlackRock manages the investment portfolios of numerous states, their pension funds and all the seeds got enormous pension funds under its belt. By the way, BlackRock only started in 1997. And in that short time, they have taken over and become the number one asset manager in the world controlling $10 trillion worth of assets. Geopolitics & Empire: So before we started the interview, you mentioned Ron Unz. So I recently interviewed Ron Unz and that interview got a bit of play. No Agenda. The Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak podcast actually played like 20 minutes of it and they were discussing it. So Ron Unz has this idea that COVID was a bio warfare attack from the west against the east. I think he laid out a great history of where we… It’s clear that we see Robert Kennedy has laid it out as well. The CIA is involved. The DARPA, CIA intelligence operation. They’ve been simulating the pandemics for 20 years, but I don’t quite go on board with Unz’s idea that because we’re seeing China tacitly go along as well, and we’ve seen China’s involvement with it as well with their cooperation in the Wuhan and receiving funding from Fauci, EcoHealth Alliance and all of this stuff. So I mean what are your thoughts on some of these topics? Michael Rectenwald: Yeah. Well, let me premise it by saying that Ron Unz is a great guy and the Unz site is just fabulous for the diversity of opinion that he allows. And the writing is very, very good mostly. One thing that bothers me about certain sites like LewRockwell.com. I love the arguments, but some of the writing its just dreadful. But the only problem I have with Unz’s characterization of the origin story, and the way it developed is that it doesn’t take into account the unanimity of responses by states across the world to the pandemic so called. It doesn’t take into account the fact that there’s obviously a coordinated campaign to impose these mandates and sanctions and the mask mandates, but also the travel mandates, the vaccine passport mandates, the green pass in Europe and so on and so forth. It’s too coordinated to be just an accident like that in the sense that… I mean it’s possible indeed that the virus did start from a lab in the United States under the direction of the person who was responsible for bio weapons development in the United States and then it went to China. But why then did all of these countries act in the same way? How is it possible? So there, I think, you have to look at the way this has been coordinated. I think the WEF is actually a pretty big player here because they actually trained a lot of these leaders in the young world leaders forum, or whatever they call it, this young world leaders group where they have brought all these people over there and basically trained them up on these principles of stakeholder capitalism and really state corporate fascism. And then the responses by all these states to the same issue have almost been identical, although staggered somewhat. And there is some difference in an application, but in principle, it’s all the same. So it’s possible that’s how the thing originated, but it doesn’t account for the total picture at all. Geopolitics & Empire: Yeah. I- Michael Rectenwald: And he sort of said, “Well, they all imitated each other.” I don’t think so. I think there’s too much coordination. It would be quick imitation. This was really lockstep really. Geopolitics & Empire: Yeah. I would totally agree with you and a lot of people are seeing. It’s an anomaly that you can’t dismiss and what we see Russia and China are going hard… China just announced they’re not doing away with their zero COVID policy where everything is locked down. I just spoke to someone who I know who speaks Mandarin who’s in touch with China. He was pointing out how in Xi’an they locked down the city of 13 million. And then people in China are starting to now… The youth in China are starting to get irritated and talking about rising up where in Xi’an when they locked people down, there was a guy having a heart attack and they wouldn’t like let him leave the lockdown area. He couldn’t go to the hospital because it was a COVID hospital. I mean, they just let him die from a heart attack. I’ve been talking to Riley Waggaman who’s in Russia. He’s going to be contributing to Geopolitics & Empire articles, but he’s been demonstrating how Russia is full on implementing vaccine passports, QR codes like crazy. So you mentioned the young… What do you call them? The young WEF leaders. Michael Rectenwald: Young Global Leaders. Geopolitics & Empire: Yeah. So we’ve had people, shockingly, like even Viktor Orban of Hungary and Putin were leaders. And I think it’s important to point out that just because someone has attended a meeting or been the leader doesn’t necessarily mean they are with it. I attended a globalist institution, my university alma mater, but I’m not a globalist and we’ve seen JFK came out of the aristocracy, but then he turned. Michael Rectenwald: Yeah, that’s true. I don’t mean to afford a genetic fallacy here. I taught in a global liberal studies program that was training people to be NGO managers in effect. That’s really what it came down to. We know what the role of NGOs are. That’s true. It doesn’t mean much that necessarily, but it just so happens that all the major lock downers are… Put it this way. Not all the people that attended Young Global Leaders are part of this, but all the people that are part of it did attend the Young Global Leaders Forum. So Macron and Trudeau, and what’s her name? The New Zealand- Geopolitics & Empire: Jacinda Ardern. Michael Rectenwald: Yes, Ardern. All these people were involved. They were all brought over there and trained up. And Gates as well. It’s interesting how Gates when he talks about vaccines and what we need, he keeps putting, “We are going to do this and we’re going to do that.” Like he’s implicitly part of the ruling establishment and he’s doing the ruling. I mean, where did he get off? He’s not elected to anything. And yet he acts like he’s in charge. Geopolitics & Empire: Yeah. But also, I mean, given what we just said Putin was a leader and he is not stopping what’s being done in Russia. Michael Rectenwald: True. Geopolitics & Empire: So he’s implementing it. And even Viktor Orban who’s good on some issues, anti-globalists, he’s also low level tacitly, not stopping going along with some of these COVID1984 measures. So again, the actions are telling you a lot. I mean, if I were in power, I would be a JFK. I’d be willing to die trying trying to stop this system. And it was recently reported that Belarus now, Lukashenko who’s one of the few holding out. So I think in Belarus now they’re introducing the QR code system. Maybe to get back on the social level, I had a question. I mentioned earlier that this Mexican government functionary who I spoke with loves the great reset. In an Epoch Times interview you said there is this laptop class or people who work in the government who basically earnestly believe the great reset propaganda. They agree with it. They support it. I’ve seen people sitting in parks, or cafes, or restaurants, and gatherings, gleefully discussing which biologicals, as they call them here in Mexico, vaccines or injections, they’re going to take next, their third, their fourth, their fifth. And in one sense, they have actually now become our enemies because they have declared us as enemies. They’re cheering for us to be thrown in the algorithm ghetto, like the Germans cheering on the Jews being thrown into the physical ghettos. So I’m still in disbelief, the number that has been done on these people, our neighbors, friends, coworkers, and families. How do you treat or deal now with this laptop class? Because it’s getting more dangerous now because there’s this guy telling me to my face, “I don’t care about the people who don’t comply.” “Well, do you understand for me that means I can’t travel. I won’t be able to work. I can’t feed my kids.” And they don’t care. Michael Rectenwald: Yeah. Well, when the so-called pandemic began, I said to my son, I said, what scares me about this is not this virus or COVID-19, “What scares me about this is the state and what they’re going to do. And this was before they started doing it.” And he’s like, “What? They’re going to be our savior.” I said, “Hardly.” So the way I look at these people is they’re dangerous. They’re state agents. They have been enlisted into the state. They’re actually state functionaries, if you will. So I find them to be very dangerous and to be avoided and to be feared, to be treated very cautiously. None of these people are going to be trusted. These people will turn you over in a heartbeat. These are like the Nazi foot soldiers in effect. And the population that went along with all this in Nazi Germany, they’re the same types of people or the people in the Soviet Union that spied on and reported their neighbors for making some sort of a deviation for being devious of some sort. So I find these people to be dangerous. I think they’re state agents. I don’t trust them at all. Everybody out there that is not… Well, how should I say? Who doesn’t see through and see COVID1984 for what it is, is very dangerous person. Geopolitics & Empire: I would agree, and I’ve started to think about this. Even some of our friends who have bought into the narrative and yet haven’t gone gotten stopped talking to us or anything where we still get along. We’re still able to get along. They haven’t shunned us. What you just said, I still fear that at some point, if the government continues, makes these measures and they put crazy new laws where if you don’t inject your kid, or if adults aren’t injected, then they will be fined. They should be reported. I’m afraid that some of my neighbors or even some of our current fair weather friends would turn on us. As you said, that’s a danger. Michael Rectenwald: Yeah, absolutely. Geopolitics & Empire: How do we resist and fight back at this point? Michael Rectenwald: Well, we have to keep doing this and keep doing what we’re doing. I have said this before, what we’re doing right now is resistance. It is part of the solution. But furthermore, I think it’s going to come to mass action, frankly, at some point like it has in Canada. And I think this is going to spread. There has to be a massive pushback against these state mandates, these state dictatorial policies, this whole coordinated state fascist overlord situation. Defiance has got to be the key. There’s a couple ways to defy. One is to become a Waldgänger that is to effectively inject this from yourself. Don’t let it be part of you. And to have a sort of inner rebellion first. You have to have an inner rebellion in order to be able to withstand the pressure and have an external rebellion as well. Geopolitics & Empire: Also, I’m a bit of a fan of game theory. I’m also that kind of person that I just like to prepare things in advance, for everything in life. I like to have things done in advance in case something happens. I’ve already got that issue solved as much as I can instead of waiting for something to break and then you’re kind of screwed. I’m just that kind of person. So people tell me to be more optimistic and have more hopium. I’m not a defeatist by any means, otherwise I would’ve been already long gone in the woods or the Mexican jungle. But as we both discussed last time, I think that things are going to get still extremely dark. And that’s my kind of sober assessment. In terms of contingency plans in the meanwhile, what’s constantly on my mind is how to best survive this social credit or beast system, and I think of things like… And other people on the podcast have brought these things up like limiting use of smartphones, de-Googling your phone using cash as much as possible, getting funds out of the banks as we’re seeing now in Canada. I think there were some rumors on social media of bank runs in Canada. Putting your wealth into physical stores of wealth, local banks, alternative stores of wealth, creating local networks where you were talking about the anti-ESG funds. Michael Rectenwald: Parallel structure in effect. Geopolitics & Empire: Yeah, getting a farm if you can. One good news, I read recently that Nick Vujicic, the Serbian-Australian Christian evangelist born with no limbs, he’s creating the pro-life bank, which is going to be have one physical location in Texas, but it’s going to be an international bank that I think everyone will be able to use without being the platform. Have you thought about how to live day to day life if this social credit system advances? Michael Rectenwald: Yeah, I mean, I’ve been trying to live like it’s already here by virtue of being uncancellable, and that I think most importantly is to get independent from institution that are part of the system. I mean, this is not possible for many people who are working as salaried employees of these organizations, whether corporate or state. But I think the entrepreneurial independence is key to get away from these institutions who are really going to crackdown on everybody. Enough crackdown on so many already. So that’s the primary thing, I think, trying to have viability outside of the system so that I think speaks to parallel structures, parallel communications, parallel media, parallel money, parallel production, parallel exchange, and so forth. So we are way behind the eight ball here in what we should have done by now in establishing these parallel structures. We should have these networks much more established. Networks of people that are willing to exchange with each other that are producing and selling things. For example, the Frontline Doctors are beginning to set up, I think a hospital. So all the defects from the COVID1984 regime in the medical field should have been, and are in fact beginning to establish parallel medical institutions because it’s come to the point where we might not get medical attention if you haven’t been vaccinated. And these people will not do that to you. So those kind of things. I do what I can on a daily basis, but I’m pretty busy with writing and trying to get my message and ideas out there in order to try to forestall, and avert, and defeat this development, this totalitarianism, this global totalitarianism that we’re under. I still see people that don’t get it. I mean, I’m so surprised that people don’t get it. They go, “Why are they doing that to the Canadians?” I’m like, “That’s not very smart or that’s not… What? Do you realize what we’re dealing with here? Don’t you see what we’re…” And once you understand that we’re dealing with so totalitarianism, everything makes sense. But they haven’t read about this. They don’t know any history. They just don’t get it. So they’re still thinking that we’re living in some democratic society. They’re still living in probably have a nostalgia for probably a past that never existed really. And they’re still trying to live off of ether, memories and beliefs that don’t apply. Yeah. That’s one thing I would say is you have to expel these false beliefs because they’re deadly. Geopolitics & Empire: This is the thing that’s getting me. I still can’t believe how people don’t get it. I was telling this guy… Again, this guy who was telling me, he loves the great reset. Michael Rectenwald: He loves the great reset. Geopolitics & Empire: I mean, that my words. I mean he was just saying, “If you don’t play along, I don’t care. Screw you.” But I’m just losing my train of thought. But I was posting on Facebook. We saw recently France like they had these convoys in France and Paris and the cops just smashing windows of people and gassing restaurants where families are enjoying meals in Canada with the shock troops coming in and in tanks. I post, like, “Look at this. Are you going to double down on your Stockholm Syndrome or are you going to finally wake up?” I mean, it’s like, hello, it’s right in your face. Michael Rectenwald: Even people that are on effect punitively outside of that aren’t Branch Covidians still don’t get what we’re dealing with. As long as they don’t get that, they’re going to continue to have the wrong responses and that’s very dangerous for them. It’s dangerous for us too. Geopolitics & Empire: Because they’re the useful idiots pushing all of this along. And you just go to your previous thought on parallel economies. It is getting tough. Well, there’s a lot of people as you say, who are salaried employees. I think one thing that holds them back is mental where they’re just afraid to leave that job, that corporate job that they’ve been working in. And I think they could succeed if they just had more courage and take risk. [crosstalk 00:47:15] Yeah. They could be successful. But on the other hand, the university where I used to work here in Mexico, I just discovered… I mean, I knew they were a globalist institution. They’ve had Hillary Clinton and Bill Gates speak at the graduation ceremonies, and Al Gore. But someone just showed me officially how that the school where I used to work, Tec de Monterrey today is owned by this corporate conglomerate called Femsa, which is officially connected to the World Economic Forum. Michael Rectenwald: Wow. Geopolitics & Empire: It’s incredible. The work you’ve been doing, if you dig deep enough, you will find all of these things. Is there any other issue that I haven’t brought up that you wanted to comment on? Michael Rectenwald: I think that’s very interesting what you said about courage. It took, I got to say, and I’m not trying to pat myself on the back, but it took courage to leave NYU, a globalist institution of the first order. In fact, I worked and taught in a global liberal studies program that was basically training people to be globalist leaders and middle managers and upper managers and stuff like that. I mean, they gave a deanship to Chelsea Clinton and paid her $600,000 a year for doing nothing. That was kind of like one of the tipping points that started driving me crazy about what was going on there. It takes great courage and I think people need to buck up and find that courage within. Maybe some reading will help. I think it helps to read how people in, for example, under communism in Czechoslovakia and other regions survived totalitarian communism because we’re under it. I don’t know if it’s not necessarily communism per se. We’re dealing with, as I said, communist capitalism or corporate socialism, but we’re under totalitarian. So you need to find out how people survive those things. And one way to do it is to look at the past. Now, they’re not going to be the same. Not all the certain situations have distinctions that can’t be reproduced, but nevertheless, there’s many parallels that you can draw and they give you resources and sustain inner sustenance in order to resist and survive. Geopolitics & Empire: All right. And any then last word, final thought for us? Michael Rectenwald: Let’s see. I mean, if you want to find out what I’m thinking in general, go to my website, MichaelRectenwald.com where all my essays are. You can find all my books connected there. My media appearances like this one will be up on the media or interview page, things like that. There I talk about what I think is going on and what to do about it. I am not the solution man, so to speak. I am an analyst of what’s happening. So I do look to others too, in terms of what to do. And I think there are some movements out there that are interesting to look at like the greater reset, the Freedom Cells movement and so on and so forth. So keep your eye on those. Geopolitics & Empire: Yeah. I’m also more of an observer of the state of things and dabbling more in solutions. But I think we’re all going to by force, by necessity need to start looking more at… Michael Rectenwald: At solutions. Yeah. Geopolitics & Empire: Solutions, yeah. And again, I have your website bookmarked, MichaelRectenwald.com. I follow you on Twitter. So again, people should follow you wherever you are online. And it’s always great to chat with the Rectenwald and good to see that you got your health back. Michael Rectenwald: Thank you. Geopolitics & Empire: Again, thanks for being back on Geopolitics & Empire. Michael Rectenwald: My pleasure. Thanks so much for having me. Outro: I hope you enjoyed this Geopolitics & Empire Podcast. The website is geopoliticsandempire.com. I encourage you to sign up for the free email list that goes out with each podcast and every weekend with a collection of news headlines. The newsletter and website are our last lines of defense. 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About Michael Rectenwald Dr. Michael Rectenwald is the author of eleven books, including Thought Criminal (2020); Beyond Woke (May 2020); Google Archipelago: The Digital Gulag and the Simulation of Freedom (2019); Springtime for Snowflakes: “Social Justice” and Its Postmodern Parentage (an academic’s memoir, 2018); Nineteenth-Century British Secularism: Science, Religion and Literature (2016); Academic Writing, Real World Topics (2015, Concise Edition 2016); Global Secularisms in a Post-Secular Age (2015); Breach (Collected Poems, 2013); The Thief and Other Stories (2013); and The Eros of the Baby-Boom Eras (1991). Michael was a Professor of Liberal Studies and Global Liberal Studies at NYU from 2008 to 2019. He also taught at Duke University, North Carolina Central University, Carnegie Mellon University, and Case Western Reserve University. He holds a Ph.D. in Literary and Cultural Studies from Carnegie Mellon University, a Master’s in English Literature from Case Western Reserve University, and a B.A. in English Literature from the University of Pittsburgh. Professor Rectenwald is a pundit and champion of free speech and opposes all forms of authoritarianism and totalitarianism, including socialism-communism, “social justice,” fascism, political correctness, and “woke” ideology. The notorious @antipcnyuprof (now @TheAntiPCProf), he has appeared on numerous major network political talk shows (Tucker Carlson Tonight, Fox & Friends, Fox & Friends First, Varney & Company, The Glenn Beck Show), on syndicated radio shows (Coast to Coast AM, Glenn Beck and many others), on The Epoch Times’ American Thought Leaders, among numerous podcasts and online shows. *Podcast intro music is from the song “The Queens Jig” by “Musicke & Mirth” from their album “Music for Two Lyra Viols”: http://musicke-mirth.de/en/recordings.html (available on iTunes or Amazon)

Tessa Lena discusses her foray into writing about The Great Reset via her popular Substack which is also featured on prominent websites such as Mercola.com. She never imagined the dystopian future would come so soon. In an attempt to explain what’s going on today, she examines the Great Resets of the past, from Russian serfdom, to the Russian Revolution (Lenin’s “Great Reset”), and growing up during the collapse of the Soviet Union. She talks about “disease blackmail” and how she’s skeptical on putting much weight on “isms”, but the ideology of Davos communism is what the Bolsheviks were using. She talks about rock stars going “Covid Central,” what the Algorithm Ghetto might look like, and how we all have an inner technocrat. Tessa doesn’t think Davos will get what it wants because it’s just too crazy. Watch On BitChute / Brighteon / Rokfin / Rumble / YouTube Geopolitics & Empire · Tessa Lena: Parallels Exist Between Lenin’s Great Reset & Schwab’s Great Reset #259 *Support Geopolitics & Empire! Become a Member https://geopoliticsandempire.substack.comDonate https://geopoliticsandempire.com/donationsConsult https://geopoliticsandempire.com/consultation **Visit Our Affiliates & Sponsors! Above Phone https://abovephone.com/?above=geopoliticseasyDNS (use code GEOPOLITICS for 15% off!) https://easydns.comEscape The Technocracy course (15% discount using link) https://escapethetechnocracy.com/geopoliticsPassVult https://passvult.comSociatates Civis (CitizenHR, CitizenIT, CitizenPL) https://societates-civis.comWise Wolf Gold https://www.wolfpack.gold/?ref=geopolitics Show Notes We have to Talk about Nazism. How Our Times Do Indeed Echo an Earlier Totalitarian Era https://naomiwolf.substack.com/p/compartmentalization-bureaucratization On the Soviet Man and the Groundhog Day https://tessa.substack.com/p/soviet-man The Physical World Is the Only World We Have https://makelanguagegreatagain.com/episodes/physical-world-only-world A Conversation with Steven Newcomb:: Make Language Great Again with Tessa Lena https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wm495xQJDfM Websites Substack https://tessa.substack.com Twitter https://twitter.com/TessaMakesLove Tessa Lena https://tessalena.com Tessa Makes Love https://www.tessamakeslove.com Tessa Fights Robots https://tessafightsrobots.com YouTube https://www.youtube.com/user/tessamakeslove About Tessa Lena Tessa Lena is a strongly opinionated musician living in New York. She is a classically trained pianist and singer, born and raised in Moscow. As a teenager, Tessa had the honor of performing her own composition at the Moscow Conservatory, and wanted to be a geneticist. As her interests expanded to Tibetan music and language, she headed to Lhasa with a backpack to do a field study in linguistics and enthomusicology. After being attacked by a sex trafficker in Southern China and successfully fighting him off, Tessa settled in Chicago. In Chicago, she started a band working with her hero Ian McDonald of King Crimson and Foreigner, and drummer Alan Lake, who has played and recorded with Madonna, Brian Ferry, Julian Lennon, Ministry, Brian Wilson and Sam Moore from Sam And Dave. After a few years in Chicago, Tessa moved to New York and started a new band, Tessa Makes Love, along with occasional collaborations by Ian McDonald. In 2013, her music video “Spente Le Stelle” received over a million very useful views on YouTube although the jury is still out on how many people realized that the video was a satire. Alas, the world keeps spinning, and it is still imperfect! In 2016, Tessa started Coalition for Artistic Dignity and organized a conference in Brooklyn dedicated to artistic dignity, social power and corporate responsibility. In early 2017, she released an album titled ‘Tessa Fights Robots,’ you can listen and buy it here. Since the English language only has so many words, this blog is also called ‘Tessa Fights Robots.’ Both the album and the blog are about being human in the world of technology, big data, and machine-like people.​ *Podcast intro music is from the song “The Queens Jig” by “Musicke & Mirth” from their album “Music for Two Lyra Viols”: http://musicke-mirth.de/en/recordings.html (available on iTunes or Amazon)