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Derrick Broze discusses the incoming threats of technocracy, smart cities, and the Algorithm Ghetto. Covid was a total technocratic operation to get us to “trust the experts”. Agenda 2030 has co-opted the environmental movement and has gone to an extreme in socially engineering society by pushing bikes instead of automobiles and bugs instead of meat. He describes how México has been during the Great Reset and counter-economics as a way to resist and opt out of the coming dystopia. Watch On BitChute / Brighteon / Rokfin / Rumble / YouTube Geopolitics & Empire · Derrick Broze: Resisting & Opting Out of the Great Reset #338 *Support Geopolitics & Empire! Become a Member https://geopoliticsandempire.substack.comDonate https://geopoliticsandempire.com/donationsConsult https://geopoliticsandempire.com/consultation **Visit Our Affiliates & Sponsors! Above Phone https://abovephone.com/?above=geopoliticseasyDNS (use code GEOPOLITICS for 15% off!) https://easydns.comEscape The Technocracy course (15% discount using link) https://escapethetechnocracy.com/geopoliticsPassVult https://passvult.comSociatates Civis (CitizenHR, CitizenIT, CitizenPL) https://societates-civis.comWise Wolf Gold https://www.wolfpack.gold/?ref=geopolitics Websites The Conscious Resistance Network https://theconsciousresistance.com The Greater Reset https://thegreaterreset.org Freedom Cells https://freedomcells.org How To Opt-Out of the Technocratic State (2nd Edition) https://theconsciousresistance.com/howto Pyramid of Power https://theconsciousresistance.com/category/documentaries About Derrick Broze Derrick Broze is the founder of The Conscious Resistance Network is now an independent media organization focused on empowering individuals through education, philosophy, health, and community organizing. He works to create a world where corporate and state power does not rule over the lives of free human beings. *Podcast intro music is from the song “The Queens Jig” by “Musicke & Mirth” from their album “Music for Two Lyra Viols”: http://musicke-mirth.de/en/recordings.html (available on iTunes or Amazon)

Jonathan Jay Couey discusses his evolving COVID theory, why he no longer believes the now official “lab leak” narrative, and how the “no virus” people can get so many things right yet be so far off the mark, throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Much of what we know about coronaviruses is not done from wild-harvested coronaviruses but from sequences detected in the wild and then replicated in a DNA cloning technology form. This means that these coronaviruses rapidly lose fidelity or potency as they return to a natural viral quasispecies swarm where the majority of particles are replication incompetent. If enough coronavirus were released at best it would create an initial effect, but then dissipate. His theory is something more akin to COVID having been a low-yield bioweapon. The overarching idea is to convince young adults and their children to be genetically and biologically monitored for the rest of their lives. Elites want to use this information to achieve transhuman immortality. They can’t depopulate us because they haven’t collected the data that’s here yet. Watch On BitChute / Brighteon / Rokfin / Rumble / YouTube Geopolitics & Empire · J.J. Couey: COVID as Low-Yield Bioweapon, Elites Want Genetic Info for Immortality #337 *Support Geopolitics & Empire! Become a Member https://geopoliticsandempire.substack.comDonate https://geopoliticsandempire.com/donationsConsult https://geopoliticsandempire.com/consultation **Visit Our Affiliates & Sponsors! Above Phone https://abovephone.com/?above=geopoliticseasyDNS (use code GEOPOLITICS for 15% off!) https://easydns.comEscape The Technocracy course (15% discount using link) https://escapethetechnocracy.com/geopoliticsPassVult https://passvult.comSociatates Civis (CitizenHR, CitizenIT, CitizenPL) https://societates-civis.comWise Wolf Gold https://www.wolfpack.gold/?ref=geopolitics Websites Gigaohm Biological https://gigaohmbiological.com DRASTIC Founder Renounces Lab Leak of COVID’s Origins https://michaelpsenger.substack.com/p/drastic-founder-renounces-lab-leak Medical Doctors for Covid Ethics International: Gigaohm Biological Presents https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1660073740 About Jonathan Jay Couey JJC is a member of the research faculty of the University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine.  His research focuses on trying to connect structure to function using patch clamp and optogenetics. JJC has published work in Science, Nature Neuroscience, PNAS, and Neuron. *Podcast intro music is from the song “The Queens Jig” by “Musicke & Mirth” from their album “Music for Two Lyra Viols”: http://musicke-mirth.de/en/recordings.html (available on iTunes or Amazon)

James Roguski discusses WHO’s secret meetings and how the 2005 International Health Regulations amendments are the backdoor to total global control and the establishment of a planetary digital surveillance system. The proposed IHR amendments would blatantly strike out respect for our dignity, human rights, and fundamental freedoms! The IHR and WHO Pandemic Treaty are the one-two punch for world government and the global Algorithm Ghetto. People need to act now. Watch On BitChute / Brighteon / Rokfin / Rumble / YouTube Geopolitics & Empire · James Roguski: IHR Amendments Are WHO’s Backdoor to Global Control #336 *Support Geopolitics & Empire! Become a Member https://geopoliticsandempire.substack.comDonate https://geopoliticsandempire.com/donationsConsult https://geopoliticsandempire.com/consultation **Visit Our Affiliates & Sponsors! Above Phone https://abovephone.com/?above=geopoliticseasyDNS (use code GEOPOLITICS for 15% off!) https://easydns.comEscape The Technocracy course (15% discount using link) https://escapethetechnocracy.com/geopoliticsPassVult https://passvult.comSociatates Civis (CitizenHR, CitizenIT, CitizenPL) https://societates-civis.comWise Wolf Gold https://www.wolfpack.gold/?ref=geopolitics Websites Substack https://jamesroguski.substack.com Twitter https://twitter.com/jamesroguski About James Roguski James Roguski who is an author, researcher, activist, and natural health advocate. He specializes in researching highly complex issues and translating data into simple language that is easily understood to facilitate action. *Podcast intro music is from the song “The Queens Jig” by “Musicke & Mirth” from their album “Music for Two Lyra Viols”: http://musicke-mirth.de/en/recordings.html (available on iTunes or Amazon)

Parallel Mike discusses preparing to weather the storm of the Great Reset, financial collapse, war, famine, digital tyranny, and anything else that might come our way! Mainstream sources are already discussing hyperinflation which is a telltale signal of where we are. He says location is the most fundamental aspect of preparedness. You won’t thrive in an urban environment, you’ll be hanging on by a thread in cities. We’ll see bail-ins, pension funds freeze, social unrest, etc. He discusses what to do with some of your assets. At some point, portions of our life will be forced onto the Algorithm Ghetto, you will have to decide where your red lines are. Mental toughness is key. Make some preparations, but you’ve also got to live and be hopeful. Watch On BitChute / Brighteon / Rokfin / Rumble / YouTube Geopolitics & Empire · Parallel Mike: Weathering the Storm (e.g. Great Reset, Financial Collapse, Digital Tyranny) #335 *Support Geopolitics & Empire! Become a Member https://geopoliticsandempire.substack.comDonate https://geopoliticsandempire.com/donationsConsult https://geopoliticsandempire.com/consultation **Visit Our Affiliates & Sponsors! Above Phone https://abovephone.com/?above=geopoliticseasyDNS (use code GEOPOLITICS for 15% off!) https://easydns.comEscape The Technocracy course (15% discount using link) https://escapethetechnocracy.com/geopoliticsPassVult https://passvult.comSociatates Civis (CitizenHR, CitizenIT, CitizenPL) https://societates-civis.comWise Wolf Gold https://www.wolfpack.gold/?ref=geopolitics Websites YouTube https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYt8UcqG2wvkehnmiF_9Akw Twitter https://twitter.com/parallel_mike Patreon https://www.patreon.com/parallelsystems About Parallel Mike Parallel Mike is an investor and organic farmer who promotes decentralized living as a solution to state tyranny. He is also a content creator and host of the Parallel Systems Broadcast. *Podcast intro music is from the song “The Queens Jig” by “Musicke & Mirth” from their album “Music for Two Lyra Viols”: http://musicke-mirth.de/en/recordings.html (available on iTunes or Amazon)

Emanuel Pastreich discusses the ills of U.S. Empire, the sham of American elections, and how academia has been utterly corrupted. In reality, politics is determined via false flag operations which cause mass trauma (e.g. 9/11). The goal of Operation COVID-19 was the totalitarian takeover of local and central governments around the world by the power elite, IT companies, and private intelligence firms. The technocrats have been learning how to modify behavior through experiments at DARPA, RAND, and Guantanamo Bay. Israel was the pioneer in developing these technologies for social control. He explains how nations states seem to have conflicts while simultaneously cooperating symbiotically via multinational corporations. Finally, he talks solutions. Watch On BitChute / Brighteon / Rokfin / Rumble / YouTube Geopolitics & Empire · Emanuel Pastreich: COVID-19 Was a Global Coup by Private Finance, IT, & Intelligence Complexes #334 *Support Geopolitics & Empire! 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Welcome to Geopolitics & Empire, Mr. Pastreich. Emanuel Pastreich: It’s an honor to be here. Geopolitics & Empire: I came across your work recently, your writing and your interviews, and I thought I had to have you on the show because you have many unique insights and you’ve got a fascinating life experience. It is hard to peg who you are because of your interesting background. If you could just briefly maybe tell us, who is Emanuel Pastreich? Emanuel Pastreich: Right. Well, that’s a tough one and I’m maybe not the most qualified to explain myself. I came from a relatively establishment background in the United States. I’m still wearing a tie, and I was a professor of Asian studies, so I spent a good part of my life in Korea and Japan, and I studied Chinese, Japanese, and Korean. When I was at the University of Illinois back in 2000, 2001, I became quite committed to opposing the totalitarian rule in the United States, which continues to the day. And as a result of my efforts with others, I ended up being basically unable to work in the United States and living in Korea from 2007. Tried to come back to the United States once in 2019, which was not successful. I’m back in the United States after three years away; just arrived a week ago. I am trying my best to address real issues in the United States and to puncture a hole in the blanket of hypocrisy and fraud that has wrapped around every aspect of American society, and, by extension, around the world. I want to talk about real things. I had declared in February, 2020, when I saw what was happening with this so-called Biden-Trump election, that I would run as an independent candidate for president and address real issues, not with any particular leftist or rightist perspective. I tried to just scientifically address what were the problems in the United States. And that caused a lot of problems, but it did give me the chance to get in the habit of giving talks, speeches, which has now become my primary means of expressing myself. I hope we can return to politics based on intellectual inquiry, on a moral commitment, and on real engagement with citizens, as opposed to a fraudulent “feel good” approach to blanket marketing. Geopolitics & Empire: I purchased your book “I Shall Fear No Evil.” I think people can download it for free. You touch on most of your points in that book. I agree with much of what you say. And maybe we can start with what you touched on: what’s wrong with the US? I’m from Illinois, I’m from Chicago, and 20 years ago I saw a lot wrong. I’m a history major, former teacher, former professor of history, I could just see the cycle of history. Emanuel Pastreich: Where were you teaching? Geopolitics & Empire: Well, I taught abroad in Kazakhstan and in Mexico. That’s part of the story. I decided to leave the United States. When you’re born as an American, you never imagine we were an empire. I thought we were just a country, the United States, and then you realize there is stuff we get into like 9/11, and other things. The reality is we’re an empire, and we’re the biggest empire in the history of the world. So we are starting all these wars, killing millions of people. There’s a lot of good that America has done, but a lot of bad too. We have to be fair. There’s the militarism. And we’re bankrupt financially–you talk about that. I also think that spiritually we’re bankrupt. Emanuel Pastreich: Intellectually too. Geopolitics & Empire: We’re at each other’s throats. Then there’s the techno-authoritarianism. I might get you in into trouble. In April, I believe the Department of Homeland Security told PayPal to shut off my account. I’m banned from using PayPal. Emanuel Pastreich: Well, congratulations. Geopolitics & Empire: And so if you could tell us basically, what’s wrong with America as you see it? Emanuel Pastreich: Well, to some degree it’s a cyclical process. If you have any institution, any government or empire and it runs 250 years, you start to have these institutional contradictions and collapse. To some degree it’s because of the institutions that were originally set up no longer correspond with the reality of how decisions are made, or how the economy works. I happen to like the US Constitution and I refer to it. It’s not a perfect document, but it gives some basic principles for governance, which I think are quite unique. It was a unique, successful experiment in history. It doesn’t mean the United States was successful, it just means that concept of constitutional government where they took some of the essence of what was discussed in Greece and Rome and tried to take the empire out of it. That was the concept behind the United States. It was a noble experiment that offers much for us. However, it was flawed from the beginning. Obviously slavery, the destruction of the native peoples, also the idea of real estate and how it was imported here and enclosure, all that part of the project was obviously flawed. But we did have some good aspects to the United States, which sometimes were positive for the world. But over the last 50 years, we saw the militarization of the economy and then this move towards a radical expansion of financialization and privatization. And in that process, I think, we also have to take note of the end of the Cold War, which has been celebrated in what we’re force fed in media and in academics. But the end of the Cold War was essentially the end of an opposing perspective in the world. Basically during the Cold War (I’m not saying Soviet Union or the People’s Republic of China got it all right) socialist nations at least offered a different perspective, were able to suggest that things like class struggle, the concentration of capital, and ideology were topics to talk about. These were things that were important in their newspapers and universities. And when the Soviet Union and China basically went over to a modified neo-capitalism, with a little bit of socialist characteristics mixed in the drink, then we lost that other perspective in the world. And as a result from the 1990s on increasingly these ridiculous ideas about economics spread. In the United States, or in Japan, or in Germany in the 1970s—through the 80s even, there were professors of economics who took Marxist economics as a major part of their approach to economic theory. There are zero people like that now, except for bloggers. We’ve lost this potential for other perspectives. It’s not saying that Marxism is perfect. I’m not a Marxist by the way, but I’m sympathetic to Marxist analysis. I think that addressing class issues and finance and ideology is critical. And so we now are in this position in which consumption, growth, exports are assumed by basically everybody to be essential for the wellbeing of people, or that the stock market has a relationship (other than parasitic) to the lives of ordinary citizens. These things are accepted as truths, right? They’re talking about a rise in the stock market as good for you. And we have in the United States now these cardboard messiahs, whether it’s Bernie Sanders, or AOL, or Donald Trump who come up with these quirky ideas about what economics is, or how we can be more progressive, concerned with working people. But essentially they buy into the entire economic money system and they’re not interested in saying, “Why don’t we make people independent from money?” They’re not trying to say, we can support ourselves. We don’t have to spend money. People in the 19th century, most of them didn’t use money. They used it only when they went to market once a month to buy things they needed. Some metal products or certain items like clocks. But basically in their daily lives, they were able to support themselves and their communities were able to support them. That is real economics; that’s positive. Actually that’s the real meaning of market economy. It has become a horrible term that’s been so distorted. Market economy means you go to the market in your community and you sell carrots, or the chairs you made, and you exchange them with your neighbor who is selling butter, or fabrics or whatever. And you have this mutual support system. Now market economy means Google and Facebook and all these techno tyrants, which print up their own money by devaluing our money, and they control the entire system. They set up these IT systems (like the technology we are using now) in which we are forced to communicate with each other, to exchange, to buy things through them. They control the means of production, means of distribution, means of sales, and the means of communication, and increasingly the ideological structure itself. They produce these false conservatives and these false progressives whom we are supposed to buy. Geopolitics & Empire: That was my next question. We’ve got an oligarchy in the US and I think it’s just as bad as the Russian oligarchies and these foreign dictatorships. I think the issue for us is that because Americans are more prosperous, we care less—as long as we can buy our nice cars, iPhones, and other stuff. We don’t really care about our oligarchy, but they’re just as bad, if not worse. You mention sham elections. I agree with you; just to read a quote from your book, you say, “I say that if we do not have an election in which someone like me can be a candidate, can have a chance to be covered in the media, that we are not holding elections but rather holding an impressive sham. We have no intention of recognizing any such sham elections. In fact, until there is an election in which someone like me can get proper attention and the chance to be on the ballot, we will not recognize any of these elections.” Just a quick thought on the elections. As you say, on our left, our right, we’ve got fake conservatives and a fake left. No one is anti-war anymore on the left. Emanuel Pastreich: That’s true. Geopolitics & Empire: There’s a handful on the right, but they all stay within a certain bounds. None of them have ever crossed the red line. Emanuel Pastreich: Right. Well I think the decision to run as independent candidate for president was a serious one. I take it quite seriously and I put a lot of work into the speeches. The preference to my book is out in 40 languages. I don’t have Croatian, but I have many other languages—many from Central Europe for that matter. It was a campaign both in the United States and also globally meant to say, let’s have an alternative view. And we’ve been basically blocked out. I think that American elections were always flawed. I wouldn’t say there was a perfect time, but there’s been a catastrophic collapse of the political system over the last 20 years. And the result is these sham elections, as I was suggesting in my recent post. Now politics is determined not by elections, but by false flag operations, like 9/11 or COVID-19 or these mass shootings, whatever, these are how politics are determined, not by voting at the ballot. In order to move beyond, to go back to some logical, scientific, rational process, I think we have to look back to the founding of the United States, or other countries, and recognize that the basis for the United States in the beginning, and the ways in which it was successful, were based on revolutionary thought, recognized that the United States is a revolutionary country. That’s the core where we start. And we have to say that the Declaration of Independence notes very clearly, “When a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.” Our two founding documents are the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution.  You not only are entitled to, but you have a moral obligation to oppose this system, to overthrow it, and to create a system which is democratic, transparent and accountable. That is my position when I am running as a candidate. I would love it if people vote for me, if they put me on TV, and if I got attention like Donald Trump, or these bedridden people like Joe Biden. But that’s not my purpose. My purpose is to be revolutionary. And so I believe the best way that I can affect politics, that we can affect politics, is to take a stand and to say, “This is the truth. This is what needs to be done.” I’m not interested in whether the New York Times or CNN will cover me, because they’re so corrupt and so useless and dangerous, that as far as I’m concerned, we should lock them all up too. I have no interest in pandering to them. And I would also say that that was the major mistake made by so many people in the United States over the last decade (as we fell into late imperial decay): they thought, I have this good idea, what might be a good idea, and in order to realize that idea, I’m going to compromise. I’m going to downplay it, going to soften it up a little bit, modify it in such a way that, one, the New York Times will mention me, and two, some wealthy donor will give me money. And my position is to say, I’m not going to do that. And that this is the only way to achieve real change in the United States, and globally, to draw a line in the sand. It may seem pointless. You might see me as someone who is a failure. I was not able to work in the United States from 2007. I have been unemployed for long periods of time, which was not all that pleasant. But I think that my actions were more politically meaningful than if I had compromised on 9/11 and other issues and tried to play the game here in Washington D.C. Geopolitics & Empire: Just one real quick question on 9/11, not to go in depth, just get your big picture take. One of my subscribers recently tuned to the email list told me they’re signing off because I believe 9/11 was a false flag operation. And I’m like… Emanuel Pastreich: It’s so obvious Geopolitics & Empire: For me you’re not a serious person if you can’t take on the false flag operations. My response to him was that in graduate school in Geneva, Switzerland I was taught about this type of thing. It is a basic historical fact. The Roman Empire did it. Nazi Germany did it. Emanuel Pastreich: I would even say it is an ancient tradition. Geopolitics & Empire: Russia has done it. It’s a basic military strategy. NATO has done it. Japan has done it, Israel has done it, Turkey has done it. Tell me a country which has not run the false flag operation. But just real quick, you mentioned previously, but also in one of your writings, you’ve written the false flag “serves as critical tool in American politics by creating mass trauma in the population that inhibits the formation of organized resistance or the possibility of rational intellectual discourse.” And so just your quick take on 9/11. Emanuel Pastreich: Well I think that in that respect, 9/11 was extremely successful. Basically it shut down the American mind. We need to use Hermann Broch’s term “the sleepwalkers” to describe our ruling class. We see people who are intellectuals, who are extremely well educated. They read books. They are lawyers, doctors, businessmen, but they’re incapable of conceiving of what is happening. They’re basically sleepwalking through history, unable to conceive of these higher-level traumatic shifts in governance. And so 9/11, is most representative in that respect. If you’ve taken one semester of physics in high school, you can figure out that this event was impossible. It cannot possibly be true. I watched it. I was in the US, at the University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign at the time. I saw it. I was not a physics major. I thought, this is not possible. Something else is going on here. But there’s no way that if two (if it’s what happened) airliners crash, it’ll cause three buildings that made of concrete reinforced with steel to collapse. It cannot possibly be true. But I think looking back on it now, that that was the whole point; the point was, just like with COVID-19, to force-feed the population a story which was not credible from the beginning. And the purpose of that was to degrade the ability of citizens to think for themselves scientifically and co-opt an entire class of intellectuals. I’ve written about this topic using the ideas from Julien Benda’s classic book “The Treason of the Intellectuals” from 1927. That was a large part of 9/11, and of COVID-19. This large class of privileged intellectuals, people like myself, decided –and I saw this at the University of Illinois and elsewhere– that they would go on with this incredibly stupid, unbelievable, argument on physics and on geopolitics to explain this trauma. They went along with it. They took the money. There are always going to be some intellectuals like that, but the fact that there were so many for both 9/11 and COVID-19 who were willing to buy the story indicates something deeply wrong. I have a classmate who’s a teaching at MIT and I talked to her, and talked to her about COVID-19 at the very start. She was just following the rules. I know that she’s smart enough to know that it just doesn’t make any sense scientifically. As I put it in one of my articles, technology buried science in a shallow grave. We have a system in which technology is mistaken for science. We moved towards this “sciencism,” as opposed to science. In sciencism the truth is determined by experts at Harvard or Stanford, or wherever, as opposed to by a rigorous investigation of phenomena. That started before 9/11. You can trace it back. In some ways it started with Oklahoma, which was the precursor to 9/11. I think if we hadn’t had the trauma of the Oklahoma bombings, that 9/11 would’ve been harder to pull off. And finally, I would conclude by saying that many of these things they’re planned out. DARPA (defense advanced research projects agency) and RAND and other agencies–now there’s a proliferation of these think tanks or consulting firms—planned these traumas. From the 1960s on they carried out a whole series of studies in psychology, mass trauma, et cetera, in which they essentially came up with these classified plans, some of which have been declassified, most of which have not. The plans describe how to transition a population from one state to another over time through the use of mass trauma. And that’s what 9/11 was about. Oklahoma was the first point of mass trauma, then 9/11, then COVID-19–and there were a few others in between. On the one hand the operations had very specific agendas, what they were trying to do in the short term. But there is a larger agenda, which is to create a totalitarian state, on in which people are not aware, as you mentioned, that the system is totalitarian. There’s a radical alienation between the reality on the ground and the manner in which ruling class intellectuals, who set the tone and the message, perceive the world. We live in a fantasy world in which we are told this is how the United States works. And then there’s the reality of how it really works. Basically they’ve become two unrelated realms. Geopolitics & Empire: Just to comment on the academic aspect, I worked in education, in academia here in Mexico, and just as you described it, I find it sad. Most academics, all they care about is their money, their salary, their wages, and their career. I want the truth. I had my classes taken away from me when I taught at a high school and at a university. And the trick was that it’s harder to get fired from the high school than it is the university. Emanuel Pastreich: Interesting. Geopolitics & Empire: After one or two semesters they took away my courses at the university on international relations because I was talking like you are. Eventually there was a new person who took charge and he didn’t know my way of thinking. And so I got my courses back. It’s just really sad. It just goes back to the fact that the people want the money, they don’t care about the truth. Emanuel Pastreich: Well, I’ve seen that. Certainly many academics now, and I see this in my colleagues, people who I used to be quite close to in another lifetime. Consider the priority to be getting grants. And so grants are the goal, certainly not scientific method, right? They must go along with what grantors want. And that process no longer involves any sense of public good, or of government or institutions that are run for the public good. We have the Drew Faust, the previous president of Harvard. When she retired, she was appointed to the board of directors of Goldman Sachs. Unprecedented in American history. But it’s telling. So the priority for these research institutes and their administrators is their ability to suck up to global capital. That is what it’s about. And so obviously if we’re talking about Goldman Sachs, BlackRock, or other Blackstone, or other private equity, these guys are sophisticated. They hire consulting firms and tell them how to modify teaching and academic research at Harvard over time so that it serves their purpose, essentially they help to cover your tracks for you. You do not modify intellectual discourse in too explicit a way. You throw in a little bit of multiculturalism here, a little bit of gender theory there; you talk about how unfair it is that poor people are not doing so well, but you don’t identify the process of how we got here. It’s become, I think it’s a major, major industry, this whole distortion of reality in advertising, public relations, consulting, and then on beyond that in research, academics, journalism, and the basic principles of discourse now. It’s a form of prostitution. I like to talk this trauma in terms of incest, rape, and prostitution, the three fundamental traumas in human relations, in sexual relations–sexual relations have profound symbolic power in our society. And all of them, incest, rape and prostitution, have their equivalents in our political world and in our intellectual world. And that’s what we’re witnessing. Increasingly we’re talking about all of those. Incest is the false flag, the internal compromise in which the compromise is so profound for the victim that it can’t even be addressed. Rape is similar in that it brings the person into this relationship which was unwanted, but in a way which is so embarrassing (and sometimes involves some mutual attraction), that it becomes so horrific that the individual cannot even conceive of what happened. And so in many cases of rape in the real world, people never report it because they think it is so demeaning to the self and they can’t even confront it in themselves. In the case of prostitution, that which should be expression of concern, or affection, or love, or commitment to family, becomes a means of making money, a service. And we see such a distortion all across our society, especially in education. Rather than teachers being concerned with society or with students, or with family, it becomes just a means to produce money. Maybe you are not selling your body but you are selling your soul. Geopolitics & Empire: I wanted to have you unpack COVID-1984, as I call it, and basically the same thesis I’ve held from the very beginning, January, 2020, you put into words, I never viewed that there was a pandemic at all. My theory is that it was planned, this whole event. It was either some low key bio weapon or it was entirely manufactured from whole cloth. Either way, there was no pandemic. We just could have just gone on with our lives normally. You wrote recently on your Substack, and I recommend people read this article, the links will be in the description. You say, “Operation COVID-19 was a global coup d’etat disguise as a pandemic that was launched against China and the world in December, 2019. And that continues onto the present.” You say that, the reality is that a tiny group of key players representing the super-rich in the US and in China coordinate closely to promote COVID lockdowns in China. And you say that everywhere they were applying this digital dictatorship. This is my interpretation. All the nations did it. I was living in Kazakhstan, I fled through the US to Mexico. I observed the creation of the “algorithm ghetto” social credit system, the “electronic concentration camp” passports, QR codes, and mandatory injections. And in some places you couldn’t even buy food without it. It’s like the Book of Revelation. You can’t buy or sell without the mark.   Emanuel Pastreich: That’s true. Geopolitics & Empire: I some places they say you can’t even go to the public park without vaccine certificates. I can see that it’s a global elite that has no allegiance to nationality. It’s the US elite, it’s the Chinese elite. And they use, as you said, these private tech IT companies that are already embedded within all of our countries. We’re basically being run by big tech. Could you tell us more about how you see COVID? Emanuel Pastreich: Well, I think you’ve described it quite accurately there. I maybe just add a few words to say how it works. I think one of the key aspects of this takeover has to do with the concept of government. So we’re being fed this narrative by the controlled opposition that says government is bad, inherently bad, and all the bad things happen because of evil politicians or bad government. Now, obviously, government is bad these days, but if you say that government cannot possibly serve a purpose, meet the needs of the people, that this is a nihilistic and depressing perspective. I think that view is being force-fed to us by those power elites in order to discourage us from trying to organize ourselves and to create government. That is the first thing I would say. The second part is the takeover of local government, and central governments, around the world by these IT companies. So, whether it’s in Sichuan province or it’s in Oklahoma, local governments are lobbied and then intimidated, bribed and threatened, in order to get these IT companies to run government for them. So whereas you previously had government officials, good and bad, who basically made the decisions based upon various pressures from around them in the community, now you have just one or two government officials, the president or the governor, or whatever. And their job is to outsource the budget to these IT companies who run everything for them. This happened to universities; it happened elsewhere. This is a profound transformation. So essentially when you see a message that says, the government does this, or this is the government, or this QR code is scanned by the government, in fact, there’s no government behind it. It’s not government in any sense of the word. It’s a totalitarian dictatorship run by these global IT companies. And they have some tricks to hide their tracks, but it’s not that hard to figure out. Basically Amazon, Google, Alibaba, there are 10 or so big players are taking over the world. And then there are smaller customized players. For example, as I mentioned, in Israel we have Black Cube and other customized private intelligence firms that facilitate the transformation. I think they were very much involved in what’s happened in China. I was criticized for this for not giving the evidence for this transformation in China, but just take my word for it. I’d be happy to give you the evidence at some future date. But they also were very much involved in it. And so we need to combine the evidence from these precedents. On the one hand, we have the research from DARPA and from RAND from the 1960s and 70s, how to modify people’s behavior and also how to take over basically the government through this privatization drive. Then we have the research from Guantanamo Bay and the so-called torture programs after 2001 in which experiments were carried out (Naomi Klein describes this in some detail) on how to modify behavior through isolation, i.e social distancing, masks, and other forms of repeated ritual behavior. These rituals associated with COVID-19 are meant to be meaningless and fraudulent, and most importantly, the person involved at some level knows that the rituals (like wearing a mask) are fraudulent—but he still does them. And that action of participation in one’s own destruction degrades the ability to resist. So you can create very passive environments through those policies. Those two strategies were combined with some understanding of AI and how it could be used to induce a passive, narcissistic, self-indulgent and decadent culture among people, especially in the mid-level ruling class. I discussed this in my article, “the terrarium economy.” We see in America this fake ruling class, people who went to Harvard and they become lawyers and doctors. They own three million, five million, $10 million in assets and a house by the beach or in France or in Italy. They think they’re the ruling class, but it’s a fraud. The ruling class are these people who control basically the means of production and they control the nature of money. Those people are worth hundreds of billions. We don’t even know how much they’re worth because they make it up for themselves. But for those people, the billionaires, the difference between a lawyer who has $10 million in assets and a homeless person is the difference between a roly poly and a spider. We are all bugs from their perspective. They know, based upon the reports they receive from their private intelligence and strategy teams, that by creating this false terrarium economy wherein there’s an imagined ruling class headed by someone like Biden, and it also contains a lot of poor people in it so as to create a visible little conflicts among us, that you can blind people to the fact that the whole system is all enclosed and controlled by this elite group. And finally, much of the analysis that could be helpful for understanding economics is prohibited. I hate to stress Marxist analysis because I’m not really a Marxist, but I’m also practical. Whatever approach works I will use—as I told Josh Jadwin the other day. Marxist economics can be extremely helpful. I don’t think we should dismiss it just because we have some bias fed to us by the controlled opposition. We’re trapped in this system wherein the ideology is controlled by these people, as is the means of production, the means of distribution, the means of communication, and money itself is controlled by them. And they’re dumbing us down. I think we have supercomputers doing this. They’ve calculated how fast or how slow to move towards the totalitarian system, how to create false conflicts like how Trump is excluded from Twitter, or whatever—all irrelevant. But it works because people’s thinking has been so degraded by technology. In fact, technology like Facebook or Twitter is designed to degrade your ability to think. Geopolitics & Empire: Just to go to a step further, where they want to take us, because I feel like we’re still in the eye of the storm, operation COVID is not yet finished by any means. You write, as a result global institutions like Bretton Woods, UN, IT corporations, Google, Facebook, Microsoft, Oracle are being militarized as we speak. What they have been authorized to do to Russians today, they will do to you tomorrow. And there will be no appeal precisely because the policies were formulated and implemented in secret. Your bank account, your automobile, your every action can be shut down by these hidden forces. The oppression of citizens in Canada, New Zealand and Austria was the frontline of this war against the citizens of the earth. Now something far worse is slouching towards Kiev to be born or shadow government lurks behind the titles, US government, German government, NATO, World Bank or UN. And they will be able to seize everything you possess and put you in jail without any due process. A lot of people talk about World Economic Forum, the great reset, techno fascism, global technocracy. I like the term algorithm ghetto, because it’s putting us, and I think they want to create this global government or global totalitarian system where all nations are run like this. And if you don’t think like the system wants you to think it’ll just shut you off, you can’t go to work. Your permission to travel will be shut off locally or internationally. Where I used to work, all the teachers had to get injected or they lost their job. I know people who were fired because they refused to be injected with what I call Pentagon Juice because it was the Pentagon DARPA in 2012 who created that mRNA tech. Your further thoughts on their end game, what they’re trying to achieve. And in all countries, we see countries like Russia, you touch on this again, that it’s the struggles in nations like you see in Russia they’re implementing some of this stuff, China, every nation to different degrees. So what’s their end game? Emanuel Pastreich: Right. Well, I think their end game first is to defang the population. I think that’s number one priority is that they may not have a complete consensus among the global elite on what the end game is. This is my speculation, some people wouldn’t just kill 95% of the population. Others are more open to having a large slave population. And so it’s not clear whether the population should be three billion or 500 million or whatever. And this is related of course to the confusion about what climate change is and how catastrophic it is. If you embrace among the globalists the idea that climate change really is catastrophic and we’re not going to be able to live on this planet for a variety of reasons, then obviously you have to bring a population down to about 400 million because it can’t support that number of people. If you don’t believe that or you think it’s more or less stable, then obviously you can tolerate more. It’s not clear, I think there’s not a total decision consensus to say we all globalists agree that we’re going to kill off this many and we’re going to keep as slaves this many. There is some debate. But the basic assumptions are the same, that we will create a false sense of democratic process and liberalism, false multicultural gender, good feeling rainbow flag stuff as a way to fool people and for the period until we get them to the next stage. And when we get to the next stage, if you’re in your house and at any moment the so-called government can shut off your credit cards and if you go outside a drone will shoot you dead, then we don’t have to care what you think, right? We’ve gotten to the next stage and then at that point, I think all the feel good, multi culty stuff can go in the garbage because now we have essentially implemented the next stage. And at that point then I think we’re looking at the real third world war, which will be quite brutal. I also want to note as I said in my paper, in my article on Opium War, that I really do think that Israel played a major role in this process. I’m not saying that, my father is Jewish, so I can’t blame everything on Jews, any more than Marx could do so. But I think that if we look at the know-how for QR codes and geofencing and all these things, that basically Israel was the pioneer in this and that many of the programs that are being used now globally in the United States and places like Oklahoma, Louisiana were based on Israeli models for social control. And the Israelis have an expertise that they built up. On the one hand, there’s the DARPA studies, the RAND studies in the background, but the Israelis were quite expert in how to control people and monitor them 24/7. And the cutting edge was in Israel, and now they found a global market for it in this COVID-19 operation. It’s been enormous profits for these specialized private Israeli firms all over, including places, probably everywhere. It’s been documented in the case of the United States, for example, in Louisiana and Oklahoma. But my guess is in places like China or even in Russia that there’s substantial amount of outsourcing of these control systems, IT systems. Probably we have some sort of, how do we say it? Symbiotic relationship between Big Tech, Amazon, Cisco, Google, Facebook, the big players, and then the specialized, say like Black Cube or these others, these Israeli IT intelligence firms, which do the initial work and some of the dirty work. Geopolitics & Empire: Just to get a little geopolitical, get your thoughts on, you mentioned World War III, there’s Ukraine and China now. Basically the big three powers, the US, NATO, Brussels, EU West, and then the poll of Russia and China, the Taiwan issue, and Ukraine. And as you said, all governments seem to have been penetrated by these IT private intelligence- Emanuel Pastreich: For sure. Geopolitics & Empire: … transnational elite networks. But at the same time we see rivalry between US, China, Russia. How do you explain this apparent contradiction? What’s Putin’s vision as you see it or Xi Jinping’s vision and then where things might go? Emanuel Pastreich: Right. Well, one of the major problems we have in politics and in journalism is just that our intellectual capacity has been so degraded. People don’t read books, they don’t understand philosophy. If you go back in 1960s or 1940s, a lot of people engaged in journalism or in discussion in universities. They knew, they read cons. They knew about Aristotle or for that matter, Confucius, and they had an understanding of these epistemological and archaeological problematics behind politics. And that has all been cleared out. So we’re stuck with the politics of bad guys and country to country confrontations. And because our minds have been so simplified, the schemata we use are so crude. It’s hard for us to think three dimensionally about how you can have conflicts between nation states at the same time that you have cooperation between multinational corporations, et cetera. And so I would say they’re basically four axes. One is the nation state, it hasn’t disappeared, probably won’t. It has an enduring quality no matter how outdated it is. It appeals to part of the human brain to say, I have a country and I belong to it. The second is the multinational corporations which are, they follow their own rules. They fight with each other and sometimes they hate each other, but they’re not following the trajectory of the structure of the nation state. And we see this increasingly to be the case because of the IT revolution, if you will. The third is the ethnic group, the sense of being whether it’s Caucasian or Chinese or Indian. We have these transnational ethnic groups which span the world. And increasingly we have populations of Indians in the United States or in South Africa or wherever who work together in their own way. It doesn’t necessarily correspond with that in the multinational corporation, but it’s significant. And the final is class. And class as we know has been intentionally I think stamped as being a Marxist communist concept that is forbidden. In fact, the idea of class as an essential issue in politics in society, Mills talked about it. It was not a Marxist concept. I think it’s really important for us to take that out to say we can talk about class and class interest without embracing a Marxist perspective, and it should be front and center of our analysis. It’s very hard to understand the what’s going on without getting those four different players. And what we’re seeing is essentially an interference pattern between these different factors. So to answer your question, I’m sorry it took so long. I think someone like Putin or Xi Jinping are not so free in their decision making process. In some ways, I think the compromise they make is they get to be on TV and make it look like they make decisions, but in fact they basically have to play to the needs of these multinational corporations and billionaires, wealthy individuals in their country and around the world who are pulling their strings. And that that’s increasingly the case. I wouldn’t say the nation state has disappeared, and there are bureaucratic entities which are focused on the particular nation like Russia or United States, but I would say increasingly transnational forces are quite significant. And finally, it’s not totally new. The first world war followed the same trajectory basically. We had the contradictions of these joint held, in 1914, petrochemical, steel weapons manufacturers in which British, French, Russian, German owned stakes in weapons manufacturing in each of these countries, making profits off of wars. And that that was essentially how the first World War unfolded. Of course, it changed in nature once you had millions of people dead and you could no longer pull that off. But the initial start of the first world war is basically another, I don’t know if false flag’s the right word for it, but basically the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand was not a totally clean thing and it certainly didn’t need to end up in a world war. It became a world war because of the financial interests in it and was these various different extremely wealthy families who had bought into arms manufacturing. That’s what led to basically the Russian and the German Revolution in 1918, 1919. Geopolitics & Empire: Just on the issue of Marx, I’ve been classified as a kami, which is nothing of the sort. I feel just like you. It’s a very useful Marxian analysis. I’ve had many leftists and Marxists on to have them break things down, and use of class as well. Obviously, I’ve met people in the US, Americans who were upper class rich, who would refuse to talk to me because I was local. Literally we’d be sitting at the table and they don’t talk to me, but then someone else comes along who’s in their class, they can’t shut up. The two of them go talking, but they won’t talk to me because I’m a lower class. Obviously this is a reality. There was one point I think where I agree with most of what you’re saying, the wasn’t one point I didn’t agree on, but I know I’m not here to debate. Emanuel Pastreich: Well, I’m curious- Geopolitics & Empire: It’s in your book where you talk about the climate security threat, and I think you were talking about ending the use of petroleum and coal, war economy. Emanuel Pastreich: Do you think I went too far? Geopolitics & Empire: No more cars and fewer airplanes. I think the issue is, I see what we were talking about earlier, we see some of these people like the Klaus Schwab and all these people saying that as well. What’s your take on the climate security issue? Emanuel Pastreich: I really appreciate you bringing that up. And it has been an issue previously because things that, I wrote that a while ago, the issue about the response to climate and to the petroleum based economy. Sadly that agenda has been taken up with people with a totally different intention than myself. My intention was, at multiple levels, energy independence, I.e produce your own energy and reduce your use of energy. And second was that to eliminate the role of petrochemical corporations and those banks related to it, their political influence. So we make policy, whether it’s how we run our communities without being force fed automobiles and freeways and other things which we didn’t used to have and we don’t need. They’re very destructive. It’s multifaceted, it’s not simply to say that climate change is going to kill us all, but also say that automobiles are dangerous, that petrochemicals are bad for you and for the environment. And it’s basically a hidden tax for multinational corporations. Every time you have to use plastics, you have to use automobiles, whatever, to live, because of the way corrupt politicians have designed your city, then you’re being forced to support this totalitarian system. But to come to the issue of climate change is what I discussed with Josh the other day. I started out by saying, I don’t know, my knowledge is limited, but I have read now quite a lot on the subject, and I’ve taught a class on climate change. And I think there is sufficient evidence to say that is a general phenomenon, that we’re seeing a major alteration of the climate. However, to say that it’s simplistically because we have too many gas, petroleum driven cars is not the case. The climate change is a result, it’s a complex phenomenon. It involves the misuse of land, misuse of water, spread of deserts that result the distraction of the oceans from microplastics, a whole variety. And then in the collapse of biodiversity, which many scientists say is a much more serious threat than the alteration of the climate for us. There are multiple factors involved, and unfortunately the discourse in academics and in the media has been simplified and reduced to a cartoonish way. So on the one hand you have whatever, Greta, what’s it? Thunberg, is it the name? And Al Gore and other people who give this incredibly simplistic vision of what needs to be done. And it doesn’t touch class, it doesn’t address who owns Exxon and how do they use it, how is it related to foreign war? None of that is there, it’s just to say, and of course the assumption is that politicians are insensitive and don’t listen to the people and they don’t know what’s really happening, which is definitely not the case. Politicians know exactly what’s happening, but they have their masters. And so that analysis that we see in many, and say most of the environmental climate change NGOs is a base blatant fraud. But the concern of a catastrophic alteration of our climate, of our biosystem that might lead eventually to human extinction, I would not dismiss that. I would only say that it looks like these exaggerated scenarios in which people say, we’ll all be dead in 10 years or 20 years, 30 years, that this seems pretty clear to have been wrong. But it doesn’t mean we won’t all be dead in 1,000 years or in 500 years. I think that’s not acceptable. On the other hand we have these Trump and others who say that all discussion of climate change or alteration is all a fraud. It’s fine to use fossil fuels. We are being misled by this fake IMF, World economic Forum agenda to believe things which are totally false. I don’t buy that at all. I think that that argument is funded also by corporate interests, and most notably that when they criticize those drawing attention to the threat, to the environment, to the climate, they attack these cardboard figures like Greta or Al Gore. They don’t go after books like The Sixth Extinction or these rather complex, carefully written books which describe a complex dangerous phenomenon in the world. And so basically the reason why people are skeptical of climate change in my opinion is, that climate change is like scientism or for that matter COVID-19. Climate change is being defined for us by a tiny group of self-interested people who are being backed by global finance. And their purpose is not to end climate change, but to use climate change, again, as a traumatic, a trauma, a deep psychological mass trauma that will allow us to move people to somewhere they would never go naturally. And that is to a system in which money is controlled by multinational banks through their fronts, their NGO fronts or their so-called global governance. Geopolitics & Empire: We’ve covered I think the main points. And then one of my last questions for you would be our response to all of these things, these crazy global elites. My response is twofold, is trying to resist as you talk about politically fight back, to speak the truth, organizing, but also the second part is preparing for worser case scenarios. If my accounts are getting shut off and I can’t use money anymore and I’m going to starve to death, well, I have to start preparing. There’s a lot of people fleeing down here to Mexico where I am. There’s people leaving urban areas to rural areas. They’re creating their plan Bs, plot of land with water and food, creating networks, decentralizing, using technology as well. And so, what do we do? What’s your advice? How do we move forward now? Emanuel Pastreich: Right. Well, the first point I would stress is that the current system in the United States and globally is so corrupt, so infected that it cannot be reformed internally. I think we all have to recognize this. You’re not going to elect somebody, whether it’s in Mexico or United States, who’s going to be, your Mexican president was one of the better politicians out there in the world, but what he could do was quite limited by the system in which he’s working. And by the way I should mention that my book, I only had two commercial publishers that were willing to publish my book, Fear No Evil, and that was in Mexico and South Korea. I’m very grateful actually to the Mexican people for supporting me back then, two and a half years ago. That’s the first thing. So that means we have to create our own system. And what I advocate, I’ve written about this now at length, is to say that a lot of us are in serious trouble, but we need to come together and to support ourselves and to create our own communities which are institutionalized. So you, me, a couple other people say we form our own government, we have our own constitution, we’re committed to each other, and we create our own economy where we produce our own food, we create our own utensils and instruments, and we are essentially independent. Now, of course, the powers that be want to shut this down and they’ll use extreme methods. But if we get to a critical mass in our country, in our region, in our country, and globally, they will not be able to do that. That doesn’t mean they won’t be able to kill some of us, but I think they will not be able to shut down such a movement. But I think probably what’s most difficult about it is that it means essentially giving up hope in all these false promises that have been made to us, that we thought the UN, MeToo included, United Nations or United States or European other organizations, that they could play some positive role. And that we really have to build from the bottom up, from basically you, me, our neighbors come together and say, we’ll help each other, we’ll grow food or build things, make our clothes, whatever it is. And that although it seems incredibly backwards and inefficient and counterproductive to go down to that level, basic means of production, that in fact, in the long term, that forms the solid foundation for something which is independent. And that by contrast, we have so many thoughtful people, progressives, whoever, who they’re trapped in the system, to some degree that’s true of me. They’re dependent on money given to them by progressive thinking, rich people, and they’re unable to address real issues. So if you had to choose, you’re better off being independent. I’m not just an independent candidate, but when I was in Korea, essentially unable to work in the US the last year I lived in Yeosu in the south of Korea, we had a tiny apartment. I lived minimally with my friend who’s on the second floor, and we cooked together, we cooperated, our costs were very low, and we were able to sustain ourselves and be politically active. It doesn’t require money. In fact, most political action does not require money. But we’re fed this line that somehow, unless you have millions of dollars flowing in like Bernie Sanders or whatever, that you can’t be politically active. It’s a fiction. It’s a fiction. In fact, I think the real revolution will come when people snap out of this narcissistic view of success for me, recognized cooperation and mutual support as the foundation of political action and start to create their own truly independent communities, which will be the building blocks on which we create, I don’t want to say it’s a totally new system because it will be based on moral philosophy, ideas about governance that go back thousands of years. In that respect I’m not a Marxist, right? I don’t saying throw away everything and we’re going to engage in some radical modernism. I think if anything, we need to go back to governance as it existed before. And the United States, as I written, the native peoples like IO Okoi had tremendously sophisticated ideas that were based on long-term sustainable development, for that matter in China as well. It’s hard to imagine now, but there were ideas about economics in which you looked at where you’re going to be in 200 years, not next month’s returns on your stock. And that sort of revolutionary change at the conceptual level, I think will be the part that goes together with the independent community. Independent community changes the economic means of production and support. And the intellectual philosophical revolution says growth, consumption are bad. Frugality is a virtue. And that intellectual depth, spiritual depth is far superior to consumption, going to movies, traveling, whatever. You can sit in your own room, little space and have profoundly deep, philosophical, spiritual experience from reading books, talking to people, creating art. It doesn’t take money. In fact, that would be my final point, is that I think we have to end the money economy, that we humans have lived on the earth for millions of years with minimal use of money. And that even until the 1930s, most people supported themselves at the local level through mutual support. You get butter from your neighbor, carrots from another neighbor, you give your potatoes, that sort of exchange. Some of it included money, but most of it did not include money. You produce energy from a windmill or from a water mill or from your horse or your cow or your own manual labor. And you’re basically economically independent. You need some money on the weekends or if you go to the market and buy some specialized products. But I think basically it’s entirely possible and preferable to pull ourselves out of this digitalized monetary system, which is the primary tool used by the global elite to pin us down and to slowly ease us into slavery. Geopolitics & Empire: They want to put us on their digital farm and get us off of our farm. And you echo a lot of sentiments from past guests I’ve had, that talk about basically what you’re saying in different ways with variations like a parallel society, parallel structure, parallel economy and that sort of thing. Where would be the best place for people to go to find out, I’ll include all of the links in the descriptions, but if you want to tell us where’s the best place for people to go to find- Emanuel Pastreich: Well, so obviously the best way, the best starting point is to be able to sit down with your own family and have a serious discussion about what’s happening in the United States. It trumps everything else. Because so many families people are not able to speak honestly about what’s happening or even to address the challenges that we face. We have to overcome this taboo, the forbidden truths and have real discussions with family members, friends and neighbors. For my part, my little contribution, I hope, is to be a catalyst to get people to say, that’s the way to go. And obviously I’m here to support you. If you want to contact me, I’ll do everything I can to be helpful to you. In terms of websites, I have my own blog, Circles and Squares. I got Asia. I do a lot of writing in Chinese, Japanese, and Korean, and I have stuff in Spanish and other languages as well, which might be interesting to those. My field is Asia. I was a Chinese major. I studied Japanese for many years and Korean as well. And then I have, for my presidential candidacy, I have emanuelprez.com, and that has my speeches, my book in 14 languages, and then the prefaces in another 20 languages. And then my speeches in writings. And then I have the provisional government, Asia, USPROVGOV, in which I put down some of the basic concepts for what a provisional government based on the Constitution of the United States would be. And purpose of that is to say, obviously I can’t do it myself, but I can set at least a vision for what is possible that would inspire other people to do it. The underlying assumption there is that we, at least a strategy behind that is to say, these people control everything now, how do you overthrow that? I think there’s some basic principles in politics about how you do it. The first is to say that they have no legitimacy, that the United States is based upon the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution, that defines the United States. Other organizations which defy that basic understanding and agreement, which defines government, those are not government, they’re criminal syndicates. And so we need to identify among a larger, it’s already started, but a larger population of ordinary working people and intellectuals, this sense that this is our position. We are the government. Why are we the government? Because we follow the Constitution, we follow the rule of law, and we follow the scientific method. Those people say they’re government, but if we look at them, they’re set up by Google and Facebook and Israeli private intelligence firms, et cetera. They’re not government in any sense. The Democratic Party and the Republican Party, there’s not a word in the Constitution about the role of the Democratic Party or the Republican Party. So if they are making policy, then this is profoundly unconstitution. They have seized control of the process of making law and enforcing law, both of privatization of police and military, and also the process of making policy within these political parties. Our position, I think the smarter position is to pull back and say, I’m not going to engage. Well, I’m going to talk, I’d love to be on the show, but I’m not interested in compromising with these people. I’m going to say, me, you, couple of my friends, we are the United States. These people are running a criminal syndicate that is posing as the United States, but they have no legitimacy. Now, this declaration in itself does not change. It’s not magic. It’s sort of, you might say a speech act is that the theory of the 1930s on literature, it’s like getting married, right? The priest says, I declare you man and wife, right? Now, this just doesn’t mean anything, right? But because of its ritual power and the way that it’s set up, it is transformative. It suddenly makes people committed to a lifetime together. And so something like that, to say, we declare that we are independent, that we follow the Constitution, that we are the government, that we are going to form a more perfect union amongst ourselves. At the beginning, maybe people won’t take it seriously, but over time they will. And that we will build up from the ground up. But the underlying implication there is that most of these institutions, including universities and government and all sorts of organizations, they used to serve their function. They could serve their function again, but now they’re essentially criminal syndicates. They do not have legitimacy in my eyes. And anybody who looks at it objectively and gets beyond this trauma, I think it’s quite clear what we’re looking at. Geopolitics & Empire: As Tommy Jay said, Thomas Jefferson in the poster behind me, “Liberty begins with you.” Emanuel Pastreich: Very true. Geopolitics & Empire: There’s a lot to digest there, Emanuel. I’d like to thank you again for being on Geopolitics & Empire. Emanuel Pastreich: Much appreciated. I really appreciate the opportunity to speak. I had a lot of trouble in, I just back in the US so I’m readjusting. To be honest, for a while there, I thought I’d never get back to the US. I think there is hope and there are people who are really trying, the starting with you. We can really change things. About Emanuel Pastreich In the midst of the 2020 presidential campaign, muddied by hype and poisoned by corruption, a single candidate stepped forward to limn with unwavering scientific accuracy the decay that has crept over our society. Emanuel Pastreich declared in February, 2020, that only an independent candidate can serve as president in light of the collapse of political parties into warring crime syndicates. He presents us with a concrete plan to transform our nation in a series of eloquent speeches that assume we are citizens capable of action, not passive consumers. Pastreich is the sole presidential candidate who speaks the truth and who demands long-term strategies for the real dangers we face. He continues his campaign for president to this moment and asks for your support so that he can protect you and defend you, regardless of the personal sacrifice involved. Pastreich refuses to pin the blame on any one person, or group, for the moral decay, the degeneration of institutions and values in the United States, in international institutions and around the world. He suggests, rather that we return to the spirit of the Constitution and, like George Washington, Frederick Douglass or Abraham Lincoln, like Eugene Debs, Franklin D. Roosevelt, or John F. Kennedy, discover the ethical foundations for good governance that have been buried in a shallow grave by public relations firms, investment banks, and legions of politicians and self-appointed experts. Pastreich published a book of his speeches as candidate for president entitled “I Shall Fear No Evil” that makes his position transparent and compelling. Over the last year, Pastreich has given speeches, met with fellow Americans, especially those who are suffering the consequences of the profound moral rot in our country commonly labeled as “COVID19,” and presented a vision that is both inspiring and concrete. With your input, with your help, he started to map out a positive direction for the United States, a future in which we move away from the dangerous culture of consumption, extraction and endless war that has infected the nation like a horrific virus and that has been amplified in our culture by the cunning tricks of dangerous parasites. *Podcast intro music is from the song “The Queens Jig” by “Musicke & Mirth” from their album “Music for Two Lyra Viols”: http://musicke-mirth.de/en/recordings.html (available on iTunes or Amazon)

Paul of The Sirius Report discusses the decline of the United States and unipolarity which he says began with The Great Depression. The West has created massive asset bubbles and inflation. Multipolarity gained momentum with Brexit in 2009 and soon after that the $400 billion deal between Russia and China signaled a significant move toward de-dollarization. He feels Russia has attained military superiority and that there won’t be a Third World War. He doesn’t buy the idea that WEF’s Great Reset is a plot to take over the world and downplays the idea there is an ominous Social Credit System. He believes unipolarity was the attempt to achieve World Government and is failing. The New New Multipolar World Order will likely have a currency backed by a basket of commodities. Multipolarity is the real reset. Watch On BitChute / Brighteon / Rokfin / Rumble / YouTube Geopolitics & Empire · Sirius Report: The Decline of Unipolarity Began in 1929, Multipolarity is the Real Reset #333 *Support Geopolitics & Empire! Become a Member https://geopoliticsandempire.substack.comDonate https://geopoliticsandempire.com/donationsConsult https://geopoliticsandempire.com/consultation **Visit Our Affiliates & Sponsors! Above Phone https://abovephone.com/?above=geopoliticseasyDNS (use code GEOPOLITICS for 15% off!) https://easydns.comEscape The Technocracy course (15% discount using link) https://escapethetechnocracy.com/geopoliticsPassVult https://passvult.comSociatates Civis (CitizenHR, CitizenIT, CitizenPL) https://societates-civis.comWise Wolf Gold https://www.wolfpack.gold/?ref=geopolitics Websites Sirius Report https://www.thesiriusreport.com Twitter https://twitter.com/thesiriusreport About Sirius Report The Sirius Report is an independent website with the aim of providing analysis and an alternative perspective on current affairs and global events that we believe are shaping a new political, economic and social paradigm. We are fully self-funded, not backed by or affiliated with any private or state entities. *Podcast intro music is from the song “The Queens Jig” by “Musicke & Mirth” from their album “Music for Two Lyra Viols”: http://musicke-mirth.de/en/recordings.html (available on iTunes or Amazon)

Joseph Green discusses parapolitics, deep politics, and conspiracy theory. He correctly observes that “if you don’t understand that the state killed JFK, and MLK, and RFK, and Malcolm X, and a whole lot of others besides, you’re never really going to fundamentally understand how the world works.” He explains how to be a conspiracy theorist and how not to be a conspiracy theorist! Conspiracy theory is simply political analysis that the State doesn’t like. If you’re looking at things from the left-right paradigm, you’re not going to get good analysis that way. It’s more like we’re dealing with competing mobsters. Watch On BitChute / Brighteon / Rokfin / Rumble / YouTube Geopolitics & Empire · Joseph Green: Conspiracy Theory is Political Analysis the State Doesn’t Like #332 *Support Geopolitics & Empire! Become a Member https://geopoliticsandempire.substack.comDonate https://geopoliticsandempire.com/donationsConsult https://geopoliticsandempire.com/consultation **Visit Our Affiliates & Sponsors! Above Phone https://abovephone.com/?above=geopoliticseasyDNS (use code GEOPOLITICS for 15% off!) https://easydns.comEscape The Technocracy course (15% discount using link) https://escapethetechnocracy.com/geopoliticsPassVult https://passvult.comSociatates Civis (CitizenHR, CitizenIT, CitizenPL) https://societates-civis.comWise Wolf Gold https://www.wolfpack.gold/?ref=geopolitics Websites Joe Green JFK http://www.joegreenjfk.com Twitter https://twitter.com/joegreenjfk Tinfoil Hat Not Included: Conspiracy Theories in Art and Practice https://www.amazon.com/dp/0998889857 Books http://www.joegreenjfk.com/books.html About Joseph Green Joseph Green is a parapolitical researcher who was affiliated with the Coalition on Political Assassinations from 2005 to 2014, when it ended due to John Judge’s death. John was Joseph’s mentor and deeply influences his work, as did his mentors, Mae Brussell and Penn Jones. Joseph’s work has appeared in Jim DiEugenio’s KennedysandKing site (formerly Probe Magazine/CTKA) many times, in Kenn Thomas’s Steamshovel Press, and Russ Baker’s WhoWhatWhy, Op Ed News, the San Antonio Current, Out in SA Magazine, Garrison Magazine, Deep Truth Journal, and various other outlets. *Podcast intro music is from the song “The Queens Jig” by “Musicke & Mirth” from their album “Music for Two Lyra Viols”: http://musicke-mirth.de/en/recordings.html (available on iTunes or Amazon)

Piers Corbyn discusses the myth and fraud of the “Climate Change” narrative and how it’s the solar and lunar cycle that drives the weather. The Green Agenda emanated from the Club of Rome, was adopted by the EU, and is part of a much larger agenda. Piers can’t believe how quickly they began accelerating the plan from 2020 onward. There are six legs to WEF’s “New World Tyranny” (virus, climate, war, vaccines, 5G, Digital ID). The left has completely sold out and where Russia and China fit in all of this is a crucial question. Moscow and Beijing adopt aspects of the Great Reset which help them domestically to control their populations. He believes the EU was a trailblazer for the WEF where they were just testing things out. He discusses ways to resist and fight back. Watch On BitChute / Brighteon / Rokfin / Rumble / YouTube Geopolitics & Empire · Piers Corbyn: WEF’s Six Point Plan for New World Order Tyranny #331 *Support Geopolitics & Empire! Become a Member https://geopoliticsandempire.substack.comDonate https://geopoliticsandempire.com/donationsConsult https://geopoliticsandempire.com/consultation **Visit Our Affiliates & Sponsors! Above Phone https://abovephone.com/?above=geopoliticseasyDNS (use code GEOPOLITICS for 15% off!) https://easydns.comEscape The Technocracy course (15% discount using link) https://escapethetechnocracy.com/geopoliticsPassVult https://passvult.comSociatates Civis (CitizenHR, CitizenIT, CitizenPL) https://societates-civis.comWise Wolf Gold https://www.wolfpack.gold/?ref=geopolitics Websites Twitter https://twitter.com/RealPiersCorbyn Telegram https://t.me/Pierscorbyn Weather Action http://weatheraction.com Let The UK Live https://lettheuklive.com Stop New Normal https://www.stopnewnormal.net About Piers Corbyn Piers is a very experienced campaigner, political activist and scientist whose leadership in crucial campaigns (e.g. Housing, Transport, Jobs, Student Rights, Climate Realism and defending rights against COVID-19) has achieved victories against all odds.    He was a Southwark Labour Councillor and part of London-wide regulatory bodies. He is an accomplished international scientist and runs  weatheraction.com long-range forecasters. He has lived in many parts of London for 55 years. *Podcast intro music is from the song “The Queens Jig” by “Musicke & Mirth” from their album “Music for Two Lyra Viols”: http://musicke-mirth.de/en/recordings.html (available on iTunes or Amazon)

Russell “Texas” Bentley discusses American Empire and the war in Ukraine. He considers Moscow’s invasion and Special Military Operation (SMO) to have been carried out in self-defense given NATO’s longstanding goal of destroying Russia. After the 2004 color revolution and 2014 coup Kiev became a U.S. puppet state. Russell warns that what the U.S. Empire has done abroad will now be done to Americans at home as the U.S. has become a fascist oligarchy. Russians have been wondering why Moscow has implemented certain “Great Reset” measures (e.g. QR Code passports) but Russell believes Russia is truly fighting the New World Order. Despite clear evidence of U.S. biolabs in Ukraine, the West is able to sweep that under the rug because they are winning the information war, but Russia is trying to win with the truth. If Russia loses in Ukraine it loses credibility and the dreams of the multipolar world go down the drain. Watch On BitChute / Brighteon / Rokfin / Rumble / YouTube Geopolitics & Empire · Russell “Texas” Bentley: If Russia Loses in Ukraine It’s the End of the Multipolar World #330 *Support Geopolitics & Empire! Become a Member https://geopoliticsandempire.substack.comDonate https://geopoliticsandempire.com/donationsConsult https://geopoliticsandempire.com/consultation **Visit Our Affiliates & Sponsors! Above Phone https://abovephone.com/?above=geopoliticseasyDNS (use code GEOPOLITICS for 15% off!) https://easydns.comEscape The Technocracy course (15% discount using link) https://escapethetechnocracy.com/geopoliticsPassVult https://passvult.comSociatates Civis (CitizenHR, CitizenIT, CitizenPL) https://societates-civis.comWise Wolf Gold https://www.wolfpack.gold/?ref=geopolitics Websites Website https://russelltexasbentley.org Telegram https://t.me/TXDPR VK https://vk.com/donbasstexac Donbass Humanitarian Aid http://www.donbasshumaid.com Covert Action Magazine https://covertactionmagazine.com/author/russellbentley BitChute https://www.bitchute.com/channel/V8U24lXpO54y About Russell “Texas” Bentley Russell Bentley is a former Texan who holds passports from Russia, the USA and the Donetsk People’s Republic. Russell came to Donbass in 2014 and served in the VOSTOK Battalion and XAH Spetsnaz Battalion through 2015. He then transitioned into the Information War, as a writer and video reporter, countering Western propaganda about the situation in Ukraine and Donbass. He currently works as an accredited war correspondent in the DPR, is married and lives in a small house with a big garden, 5 Km from the frontline in the ongoing Donbass War. *Podcast intro music is from the song “The Queens Jig” by “Musicke & Mirth” from their album “Music for Two Lyra Viols”: http://musicke-mirth.de/en/recordings.html (available on iTunes or Amazon)

John Whitehead discusses the Deep State (the 7th Floor Group) and how the future of America and the world will become everything the great science fiction writers have prophesied. The collapse of the United States is akin to the collapse of the Roman Empire where we could very well see people being taken away and put to death. The coming of Singularity in 2029 and takeover of AI is very likely. We are very similar to Nazi Germany, the police state is expanding, and people need to get up and get active in their governments. We only have a small window of time left. Watch On BitChute / Brighteon / Rokfin / Rumble / YouTube Geopolitics & Empire · John Whitehead: The Future Is Everything the Science Fiction Writers Have Prophesied #329 *Support Geopolitics & Empire! Become a Member https://geopoliticsandempire.substack.comDonate https://geopoliticsandempire.com/donationsConsult https://geopoliticsandempire.com/consultation **Visit Our Affiliates & Sponsors! 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He’s author of the award-winning A Government of Wolves: The Emerging American Police State, and the best selling Battlefield America: The War On The American People. Also, The End of Man, published in 1986, but sounds like it was written yesterday. Mr. Whitehead, welcome to Geopolitics & Empire, which the Ron Paul Institute describes as “the real underground, where the real intellectual revolution is taking place.” John Whitehead: Anyway, thank you sir for having me on. I appreciate it. Geopolitics & Empire: I do urge people to support the Rutherford Institute. I’ve got my Rutherford coffee mug, which I don’t think you sell this one anymore, and I’ve got the pamphlets as well that you sell. I love the work you’re doing, but let’s get right into it. You recently wrote that, “Things are falling apart. How much longer we can sustain the fiction that we live in, the constitutional republic, I cannot say, but anarchy is being loosed upon the nation. We’re witnessing the unraveling of the American dream one injustice at a time,” end quote. Myself as a former history teacher, professor, I saw all of this coming. In the 2000s, a nation and republic in a downward spiral. Economic decline, spiritual decline, cultural degeneration, devolution into authoritarianism and tyranny. And it seems we’ve arrived. What’s sort of the big picture here and where are we on the timeline? John Whitehead: Well, the government that we have in this country, and I’ve warned people for years about, is not what you think it is. It’s a different type of government. There was an expansive study that came out of Princeton University in 2014, which studied 20 years of laws and policies passed in Washington, DC. The professors came to the conclusion that we live in what they call an auto [inaudible 00:01:55] elite in Washington, DC where all the money congregates. Washington, DC’s basically run by, at the time they estimated 585 billionaires. It later became known as the Deep State. The Deep State is a group called the 7th Floor Group. It was a leaked FBI memo, which said that the government is basically run by the 7th Floor Group, which is, and I’ve known this for years cause for over 40 years, I’ve sued in and out of Washington, DC. I’ve sued the president of the United States, I’ve seen some stuff. I’ve had congressmen, former NSA agents meet with me and say, “Here’s some more facts that you need to know” and, they’re seeing it and they don’t like it. We live, basically, in the United States now, a total surveillance state. We’re be watched, and as the future of techno-authoritarianism, our commentary from last week, goes into the fact that the Chinese government, by the way, has a tremendous impact globally, but is having a really big impact in the United States. They have 400 detention camps, they publicize it in China, where people are taken away for whatever, saying the wrong word, wrong religion, those kind of things. What I see the future of this country is everything that the great science fiction writers have prophesied about, like George Orwell, Phillip K. Dick, and others saw it coming. But now with the emergence of the Chinese government having a new police station now in New York City, three in Canada, 25 cities across the globe, 56 different secret police stations are operating where they’re going after former dissidents and people that have escaped to another country from the Chinese tyranny of a detention camp. They’re working with these other guys… This is what blows my mind in a way. They’re working with the so-called land of the free government, the American government, to capture people and take them back and put them in detention camps. The people who wrote this constitution, the people who such as it would say, “Are you nuts?” I mean, the fellow who wrote our bill of rights, James Madison said, “We ought to mistrust all those in power.” You studied just the history, and you mentioned some of my books, my book Battlefield America and A Government of Wolves, goes into the history that we faced in the world or whatever from Nazi Germany, before Nazi Germany, the collapse of the Roman Empire. I’m really seeing more as I studied the Roman Empire, the collapse of the United States into a government where people were supposed to be taken away. I remember the Romans were big into really cruel punishment like crucifixion, stuff like that. Those were lessons, by the way. They were, “If you do this, if you speak truth to power, you’re going to get in a lot of trouble,” and they would crucify people. We haven’t seen that yet, no. I think they’re going to be slicker now with the emergence of artificial intelligence and with the coming of singularity in 2029, according to Google, where the human mind’s going to fuse with AI, artificial intelligence. That’s very likely, in my opinion. People are not going to understand what’s going on. Several Google executives recently resign. One said he resigned because he was really concerned about what they were doing at Google. He said, “We’ve created God.” In other words, what the Chinese government does now with their AI will be operating across the globe. You say the wrong word, you do the wrong thing, you wind up in a real bad situation. That’s what I see coming to this country. We’re run by people, like I say, the so-called Deep State. They want money, they want control, they want our tax money. Very similar to that movie by John Carpenter called They Live. The motto was, “They live, we sleep.” We’re not awake. We’re very a lazy populous right now because we’re addicted to our screen devices. The average American watches approximately 150 hours of television a month. Listen, Carl Bernstein of Bernstein & Woodward, when he left after the Nixon debacle and helped expose, he was Pulitzer Prize winning journalists. He started working with the big news publications, the big New York Times and people like that in college. He wrote a very good article, by the way, where he said that it’s shocking to find out that the major publications and television network worked with the government to vet articles, help write them. What you’re getting today is, off of mainstream media, I keep warning people, that’s why I don’t watch mainstream media. I don’t need to watch it. I do my own research and I say this and I mean it. Education precedes action. I’m telling people, if you want to act, get educated, folks. If you’re quoting somebody from CNN to me, I’m going, “Well, wait a second. That may be a government agent. Do I really want to believe that?” Cause James Madison said, “We ought to mistrust people,” and I mistrust people, by the way. I clarify what people are saying if they say something to me. That’s the key thing that we’re losing in this country today, is critical thinking. They don’t want us to think. That’s why children in public schools in America, they are not taught to Bill of Rights anymore. Many of them don’t read the Declaration of Independence, and the reason they don’t, if you read the preamble of the Declaration of Independence, it says that the government’s getting out of control, you can throw it away, get rid of it. They don’t want people to think like rebels. Listen, authoritarian governments have never wanted that. The sad thing about history, as I’ve seen it, and my book, A Government of Wolves, comes from a great George Merrill quote where he said, “A nation of sheep begets a government of wolves.” That’s where we’re at. We’ve begat a government of wolves because we’re not the kind of people checking on government. We don’t get involved. Most people don’t get involved even in their local city governments, which I’m saying if there’s going to be, let’s create islands of freedom and take control of our local city governments. Our 10th amendment in the US Constitution says that local governments can nullify acts of the federal government. That’s federalism. We can do that. But getting people involved today, today the thing is, “Oh, I voted. I did my duty.” I’m going, “No, you didn’t do your duty.” Voting is not your duty. Your duty is to get up all your butt, get active in your governments, run for government, make sure it’s operating correctly. I mean, America, again, people watching this show today should realize that in America, we’ve gone kind of bananas and like I say, the mainstream media doesn’t publicize it. In the 1980s in America, there were approximately 3000 SWAT team raids annually. Today in America, over 80,000 annually. Up to 500 dogs a day are shot in this country. Kids are getting killed. I mean, if you go to our website at Rutherford.org, we’ve written on how people are getting their heads blown off and stuff in the middle of the night, flash-bang grenades. Decorated Marine Jose Guerra in Arizona, the police are doing a sweep of his neighborhood, trying to find marijuana, by the way, they’re crashing in home. They crash into his home in the middle of the night, this decorated Marine grabs the only weapon he has in his home, his hunting rifle. Stands at the end of his hallway, puts his wife and child behind him. And the police see him, shoot over 70 times and hit him over 20. He falls forward and dies. His wife comes out screaming, tries to help him, they push her away, he dies on the rug. Wait a second, no marijuana was found in his home. What a ridiculous thing for police to be busting through doors trying to get people for smoking marijuana. Like I had one coffee with Dylan, he says, “I think it makes you more mellow, John.” I went, “It may make you more mellow. So, why are police crashing doors trying to kill people?” And they’re doing it in this country. There are 175,000 federal agents in America running around with hollow-point bullets now. I’m a former army officer. I was an infantry officer, taught people how to shoot. We could not use hollow-point bullets. They were considered inhuman. They expand on contact. What went through John Kennedy’s head, Martin Luther King’s head, four of them went into John Lennon of the Beatles’ chest hollow-point bullet. They’re intended to kill, wipe out. They’ve been limited to the government now and they’re everywhere. I mean, you got local cops running around with hollow-point bullets. I mean, what in the world are we doing, folks? This has all taking place, I’d say, in the last 20 years or so. It’s just expanded very rapidly. This is 9-11. I mean, we’ve got a government now, and I’ve used this example, we’re very similar to what happened to Nazi Germany. We’re kind of copying them. I know you may have some questions that you want to ask, but when you look at history and study history, study good books. My books are all documented, but when you have Project Paper Clip, which was a program that allowed over a thousand top Nazis to come into America and feed into the government, the education system and whatever, after World War II, what were we thinking, folks? Who’s running this government? It isn’t we, the people. When the Constitution starts, the three really beautiful words, “We the People,” do ordain and establish this constitution, we are the people, supposedly the people running the government. The people in DC or our local city government are merely our representatives. We are the government. But if you’re not the government, if only thing you’re saying is, “I may vote or whatever, and then I’m going to turn the tube back on and that’s it.” We have a responsibility. A responsibility. I’ll say this, that responsibility goes beyond our temporal existence. When we die, if there is a place that’s a better place in here or whatever, I mean, and there’s karma, whatever, what we do here is going to have a great impact on how we live out our eternal existence. Just sitting on your butts watching TV, folks, you’re going to be in change at some point. Eventually, it isn’t going to work. Get up and take a stand for freedom. That’s what we need in this country. Because like I say, with China coming in now, and it’s a really scary thing. People don’t realize this, but the country the United States owes the most money to is China. Almost, we owe a trillion dollars to China. Wait a second here. I have friends that have gone to China and told me stories. One was sitting in a restaurant. She said a car pulled up, a guy was walking down the street, she was eating her food and a bunch of Chinese cops got out. Grabbed him and shook him up and flew in the backseat of a car and drove off. She said the people on the street, the Chinese people, just kept walking as if they didn’t see it. “It didn’t happen. We didn’t see it.” Outrage, at a certain point like that. Come together and just throw them out. Don’t let them be doing this stuff because sooner or later, if you love your children, your grandparents or whatever, you want them to be taken care of, they’re not going to be in a society we’re living in today. It’s going to get worse. If this so called land of free collapses, and it’s headed in that direction, by the way, clearly, because we’ve lost our roots in this country. We don’t study the history, we don’t know what’s going on, we’re destroying. We don’t mention names of certain founding fathers in this country. Now, people who wrote like Thomas Jefferson, his Declaration of Independence was used by the UN Declaration of Human Rights as an example of how to write. The place of his home in Charlottesville, Virginia, they don’t even want to mention his name anymore. You can’t live life like that. That’s what I mean by critical thinking, and critical thinking’s really, really important. You may not agree with somebody, but that doesn’t mean that you can’t respect them for some of the things they’ve done and whatever. Listen, without some of the people that they were eliminating from our system, we would not have a free America. Geopolitics & Empire: Yeah. On this podcast, I’ve spent less time on geopolitics and more on what you described as the techno-authoritarianism because I feel that’s the biggest threat. You mentioned Nazism. I feel like the medical tyranny, COVID-1984, as I call it, the biomedical security state, that’s right out of Nazi Germany. The Nazi health passes, I actually bought one right behind me. I’ve got 1938, this Ahnenpass. John Whitehead: That’s an old one. Geopolitics & Empire: It’s crazy because I’ve interviewed Edwin Black, he calls it the algorithm ghetto. In China, it’s the social credit system. As you said, they say now, Wall Street Journal said, one wrong move or thought, you are in digital death. They shut off all of your accounts. You literally can’t buy… It’s like the Book of Revelation, you can’t buy or sell. We saw Canada freezing and locking down bank accounts of thought criminals recently. There’s this German journalist, Alina Lipp, she had her accounts frozen by Germany in the EU and then they shut off her parents’ accounts in the US. We’ve seen Nick Fuentes, Kanye West had his bank account closed. I was just reading yesterday in Brazil, people protesting Bolsonaro’s defeat are having their bank accounts frozen. Any further thoughts on this cashless society? It’s really scary. It feels like we’re in it now. I’ve had, since April, my pay, I’m banned from PayPal. The Department of Homeland Security told PayPal to ban me along with others such as Mintpress and Consortium Used. I mean, this is fascism. We see the FBI telling Facebook what to do, the White House telling Twitter who to de platform. Any further thoughts on this sort of digital dictatorship, electronic concentration campus, as some people call it? John Whitehead: Oh, it’s coming. Like I said, that Google executive said, we’ve created God with the AI robots. They are machines in the truest sense of the word, unless they figure out a way to somehow inject some kind of human empathy into them, are going to be terrorists. They’re already terrorists. They’re going to be taking your money, they’re going to be spending your money, by the way. They’re going to be ripping your money and taking it and say, “This is for taxes, this is for saying the wrong word or whatever.” It’s already, it’s happening in China. You’re saying it’s happening here. It is true, everywhere in the world it’s going to happen as we move more and more into a global environment. With the technology they have, it’s like I say, they’re going to be able to say, “You can’t travel, you can’t go here, you can’t go there. You’re locked in your home and we’re coming to get you if you say the wrong word.” And they will, with the SWAT teams. The SWAT teams, by the way, everything’s going robotic. Elon Musk even said this recently. He said, “I’m trying to warn people, but they won’t get it until they see the robots coming down the street at them.” In some parts of this country already, they’re using robot dogs to go to the door. The police aren’t going anymore. They have robots, by the way, they’re going to be searching, walking down the streets sooner or later. It’s coming, folks. They’re doing it in airports already in this country. It’s coming. Like I say, we have a few years, I’d say maybe a decade, to get our act together before it’s so, so powerful. Like I say, 2029 is the era of singularity, but here’s the other thing. With all this increasing machines and AI, whatever, there’s a concern that the economy’s going to collapse and culturally it’s going to collapse, too. And they’re going to have to impose martial law, the so-called dictatorial state. That’s why there’s that 2030 video that the Pentagon put out four or five years ago as a training video for police and the military to get ready. They’re basically saying by 2030, they’re going to take over and impose martial law, not only in the United States, but other parts of the world. The American military is already thinking globally in that sense. But the fact that they’re training for martial law, the fact that the towns of 5,000 people in this country, small towns, have police that have grenade launchers, sniper rifles, armed military gear, MRAPs, which are basically tanks on tires and all that equipment and the FBI is training police chiefs at Quantico in different parts of the country, it’s getting very, very scary. I mean, they’re ready and they’re going to… Again, they’re trained, by the way, in the worst case scenario of the police today and that is when they face you, no matter who you are, you can be the most dangerous person in the world. That’s why they’re agitated. In some of the cases we’ve had, people have said, “Why the police so agitated when they come to the door?” It’s because on their phones they have a lot of information about you because the Department of Homeland Security is already doing threat scores on homes in America, going from green to red. They do the same thing in China. We’re already adopting Chinese policies. When they’re doing threat assessments, it’s predictive policing, which studies show that in some cases, in 80% of the cases where people are arrested thinking they might do a crime or whether they’re doing committed crime, they were found not guilty. There are going to be people in jails that we have in this country, private prisons, which are making a lot of money off of people being in prisons. People are there that work for Microsoft, Facebook and all the big companies and making products, Walmart, etc. The country we’re living in today is moving really aggressively toward an artificial intelligence system that is just basically about one thing, control and money. Once we go to digital currency, watch out. They’re going to be blocking what you do, what you buy, they’re going to know everything about you. With the smart cities developing in this company, they have in China with thermal imaging devices, they can basically track wherever you go. The drones today, from two miles up, have facial recognition software. They can watch you, control you, and sooner or later, they’re going to shoot you or stun you with a taser from a distance. The average American’s not going to have any of this stuff. We’re not going to have the guns, the technology or whatever. There are going to be some radicals, by the way, which are going to do it. I wrote a book called the Erik Blair Diaries a year ago. It’s a novel that goes into all this, what I think the future’s going to be. It’s not a very pretty future, but here’s the key, I think. I keep telling people, one person can change the world. If people get up off of their butts and start getting active in society, I think we can turn some of this back. But here’s the thing, don’t be silly. It’s going to be very, very difficult. The only way you’re going to do it, folks, is start reading. Get educated and get your friends together in groups and say, “We’re the new founding fathers of the New Republic. We’re going to create islands of freedom in America.” Geopolitics & Empire: We can do that everywhere. Even here in Mexico, there’s people getting together and starting to resist. I discovered two years ago, I live in Guadalajara, the second biggest city in Mexico. It’s a resilient city. It’s a smart city, I found all of the concept papers. It’s funded by the Rockefeller Foundation, the concept papers to say get rid of cash, go cashless, pre-crime, everything that you described. I’m shocked that I’m living in a smart city, I’m trying to escape. Just on China, it’s portrayed today that the world is divided in the battle of USA versus China, but a number of guests I’ve had on posit, I think what you’re saying that it’s more like the Chinese and American oligarchies and governments are working together against their own populations, us. You said in your recent article that, “China and the American Deep State have joined forces. A world in which the Deep State is not merely entrenched, but has gone global.” Would you say it’s basically all of our governments versus us and that the Chinese and US oligarchs are sort of working, they have more common interests? John Whitehead: Oh, sure they do. People don’t realize the National Security Agency, the NSA, Snowden blew the whistle where he had to run out of the country and hide in Russia. But he said recently he was really surprised himself at the impact China was having on the world. But most people don’t realize this. And the NSA has their Five Eyes program. They have bases all over the world where they’re doing a total surveillance and creating a world surveillance system. They’re working with the Chinese government and they have their [inaudible 00:25:16] program where they meet annually with 17 countries across the globe in coordinating all this stuff. They now have, in eight major cities, AT&T towers, they have AT&T towers in eight major cities where they’re watching everything in all the big cities and through their so-called artificial intelligence and their surveillance devices. Everything that we’re seeing in China, anywhere in the world that’s scary, it’s happening in America. It’s going a little, they’re keeping it hid. Here’s the thing, most Americans, like I say, are hooked to digital heroin. They’re just staring and they’re not getting it. They don’t understand it. They’re drugged. Once your eyes are blasted open, you see it, people start screaming, “Why didn’t I see this before?” Well, there’s people like you and me and a good portion of people out there are talking about this and saying, “Get ready, folks.” Listen, when we have cases where former veterans do emails about something, this or that, and the next day they have SWAT teams come and get them and drag them away, or their doors are knocked upon. We’ve helped some of these people. Like I say, they’re watching anybody that might have the ability to fight back. Mainly veterans, they’re watched. It’s called Operation Vigilant Eagle, run by the Department of Homeland Security. I mean, they do all the flag waving at the football games and all this stuff, militainment, we call it and do all this stuff. But if you say the wrong word is a veteran, they come and investigate you and scare you and threaten to deport people out of the country. They’re doing that. We have actual cases that show that. Do they really respect us as the American citizens? Remember the basic model of American is, we are the masters, the government is our servant. The so-called government, our representatives. We don’t enforce that today. I mean, most Americans, I got to say, they think voting is the only thing that matters. And they go home, watch TV, and basically do Heil to their government officials. Listen, again, we ought to mistrust all those in power, and that’s the key. If you’re going to be a rebel, we need more rebels in America, especially right now. People that will stand, not violent rebels, but rebels who will just look. The government [inaudible 00:27:49] says we’re going to fight you to the end. We’re going to throw you out of the office. Sooner or later, we’re going to gather our groups and we’re going to fight back on this policy. Again, let me say this, they’re going get PO’ed at you. Listen, under the National Defense Authorization Act, which every president has upped for years, gives the president, if he thinks you’re an extremist, he can point his finger at you and the military can come get you and take you away to a camp or whatever, and you won’t see your lawyer or your family. Again, that’s why groups like the Rutherford Institute exists. People call us and say, “Wow, you won’t believe what happened.” And we try to help them. That’s the key. We need to get together though, with more lawyers across the country and more freedom fighters and say, “We’re going to get rid of this National Defense Authorization Act. It stinks.” And get your so-called representatives to do something besides take money from lobbyists. Geopolitics & Empire: You mentioned the military veterans, and I just remembered. I think one of my very first podcasts over a decade ago, my first guess was Corporal Jesse Thorsen, who I think you worked with. He just was messaging friends, talking about 9-11 and stuff and then they came to his house and tried to take him away. In any case, any final thoughts? You told us what we need to do. I like to cite recently the premier of Alberta in Canada, and she declared humans are not QR codes. I like to summon the ghost of Patrick McGoohan, number six, from The Prisoner. We are not to be pushed, file stamped, index, briefed, debriefed or numbered. It’s going to be rough trying to survive in this algorithm ghetto and dystopia. Any final thought for us? John Whitehead: Well, if hearing this today between me and you, this discussion, doesn’t ignite a thought of freedom, then there’s not a lot of hope for you. Listen, get up, get off your butts, like I say. Your local communities, by the way, the 10th Amendment to the Constitution says that local governments can nullify the federal government. You can take over your local communities. Get rid of the SWAT teams, get rid of the people shot in the middle of the night, get all this stuff out of your home and make sure your kids, when they walk out of grade school, can cite the five freedoms of the First Amendment. Tell you what’s in the Fourth Amendment. Make sure they read the Declaration of Independence. Make them think critically. I’ve told school principles, by the way, “Listen, instead of just x-ing words out, why don’t you put the two students that disagree on the stage and have them debate and bring out more debaters and make people think about these terms. Don’t do away with words. I mean, in China, 1984, Animal Farm, the word disagree are all, you can’t say any of those things anymore. It’s coming to that way in America. We’re starting to repeat tyranny. Let’s not do that. We can take over our local communities. Washington, DC is one of the most corrupt places I’ve ever… I’ve sued in and out of there for 40 years. It’s totally corrupt, but you can change the face of the globe. If we can get our cities, our local cities saying no to Washington, DC, stick it. We’re going to fight for freedom. We’re going to stand for freedom, and we’re not putting up with anymore of your tyranny. Geopolitics & Empire: It’s a great place to end. Stick it. Finally, where’s the best way for people to find you online? And how’s the best way for people to support your work and the Rutherford Institute? John Whitehead: Well, we’re a nonprofit group. We accept donations to fight cases and put all our education materials out at Rutherford.org, Rutherford.org. Sign up to get our weekly newsletters and our press releases and you’ll see what’s going on. I think, again, education precedes action. Get educated and get out there and create islands of freedom so America can survive. Geopolitics & Empire: I definitely recommend people support, donate to Rutherford, get John’s books, subscribe to the email list and their socials. Again, thank you for being on Geopolitics & Empire. John Whitehead: Thank you, sir. About John Whitehead John Whitehead is an attorney and author who has written, debated and practiced widely in the area of constitutional law, human rights and popular culture. Widely recognized as one of the nation’s most vocal and involved civil liberties attorneys, Whitehead’s approach to civil liberties issues has earned him numerous accolades and accomplishments. Whitehead’s concern for the persecuted and oppressed led him, in 1982, to establish The Rutherford Institute, a nonprofit civil liberties and human rights organization located in Charlottesville, Virginia. Whitehead has filed numerous amicus briefs before the U.S. Supreme Court, has been co-counsel in several landmark Supreme Court cases and continues to champion the freedoms enshrined in the Bill of Rights in and out of the courts. John Whitehead is a frequent commentator on a variety of legal and cultural issues in the national media and writes a weekly opinion column, which is distributed nationwide. He has authored more than 30 books on various legal and social issues. His most recent books include the best-selling Battlefield America: The War on the American People and the award-winning A Government of Wolves: The Emerging American Police State. In addition, he wrote and directed the documentary video series Grasping for the Wind, as well as its companion book, which focus on key cultural events of the 20th Century. The series received two Silver World Medals at the New York Film and Video Festival. *Podcast intro music is from the song “The Queens Jig” by “Musicke & Mirth” from their album “Music for Two Lyra Viols”: http://musicke-mirth.de/en/recordings.html (available on iTunes or Amazon)