

Law and Chaos
Liz Dye
Ignorance of the law is no excuse! That’s true for a traffic stop, and it’s true if you want to participate in whatever’s left of American democracy. If the events since the 2016 election taught us anything, it’s that tuning out is not an option. Legal journalists Liz Dye and Andrew Torrez break down the week’s most important courtroom stories, so you can keep on top of this crazy news cycle. Whether it’s Texas giving two middle fingers to the Supreme Court, or Donald Trump in all the courts at once, we’ve got you covered.
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Sep 27, 2024 • 48min
Ep 68 — Eric Adams Thought He’d Be President, And So Did His Turkish Handlers
The Mayor of New York was federally indicted for taking bribes from the Turkish government. He was not indicted for taking notes on a criminal f***ing conspiracy in flagrant violation of the Stringer Bell Rule. But perhaps the feds are saving that for a superseding indictment. And for subscribers: an update on the DC election interference case. Links: US v. Adams [SDNY Docket via Court Listener] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69197933/united-states-v-adams/ US v. Trump [DC Docket via Court Listener] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67656604/united-states-v-trump/ Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod

Sep 24, 2024 • 48min
Ep 67 — Election Shenanigans Palooza
It’s a roundup day! Time to run down the latest efforts to mess with the vote, from Georgia to Nebraska and all places in between. Then Cards Against Humanity sues SpaceX, and the complaint is a thing of beauty. Finally, let’s talk about Republicans’ grudging plan to NOT sink the economy before November. Please clap! Links: Fuzzy Math: Wrong Way Reforms for Allocating Electoral Votes https://fairvote.app.box.com/v/fuzzy-math-wrong-way-reforms RFK Jr. FEC Statement of Candidacy https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/ViewDocument?docIndex=2ofcShRVs71csui/f9Yq6g== New York election law 1-104 https://codes.findlaw.com/ny/election-law/eln-sect-1-104/ 31 U.S.C § 3101 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/31/3101 Debt limit votes 1978 to present https://sgp.fas.org/crs/misc/R41814.pdf HR 9494 https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/house-bill/9494/text Treasury debt data https://fiscaldata.treasury.gov/datasets/debt-to-the-penny/debt-to-the-penny GA Hand Count Rule https://sos.ga.gov/sites/default/files/2024-08/seb-notice_of_proposed_rulemaking_183_1_12_.12a5_hand_count.pdf Cards Against Humanity Stops the Wall https://cardsagainsthumanitystopsthewall.com/ https://www.cahsuesmusk.com/ Cards Against Humanity v. SpaceX Complaint https://cah-sues-elon-musk.s3.amazonaws.com/240919+Plaintiff's+Original+Petition.pdf Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod

Sep 20, 2024 • 53min
Ep 66 — Things You Wish You Didn’t Know, Some Of Them Not Even About Trump
Republican Mark Robinson hopes to be North Carolina’s next governor. Trump hopes he will go away and stop dragging down the ticket. Meanwhile, the documents case hits the Eleventh Circuit, and outside amici are asking the appeals court to disqualify Judge Aileen Cannon. And in Arizona, a federal judge told Mark Meadows to GTFO with his claim that he was doing official White House business when he tried to steal the state’s electors in 2020. Subscribers will get a deep dive into the sh*tshow that is Trump Media Technology Group stock. Links: US v. Combs [Docket via Court Listener] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69167625/united-states-v-combs/ ‘I’m a black NAZI!’: NC GOP nominee for governor made dozens of disturbing comments on porn forum https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/19/politics/kfile-mark-robinson-black-nazi-pro-slavery-porn-forum -TMTG/DJT Form S-4 https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1849635/000119312524036093/d408563ds4a.htm TMTG Pitch Deck https://tmtgcorp.com/static/tmtg-company-overview-f6cfb16513c78a61681aea3bbdae7a78.pdf US v. Trump [Eleventh Circuit Docket via Court Listener] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/68955302/united-states-v-donald-trump/ -Meadows AZ state court indictment https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.azd.1393979/gov.uscourts.azd.1393979.1.1_1.pdf Arizona v. Meadows Order of Remand https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.azd.1393979/gov.uscourts.azd.1393979.21.0_2.pdf US v. Torkington https://casetext.com/case/us-v-torkington ProPublica, Judge Aileen Cannon Failed to Disclose a Right-Wing Junket https://www.propublica.org/article/judge-aileen-cannon-trump-documents-case-travel-disclosures Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod

Sep 17, 2024 • 42min
Ep 65 — Can You Censor the Internet By Shouting ‘It’s For the Kids?’
Utah tried to implement an age verification requirement for social media. The governor even got into a fight with our guest, free speech lawyer Ari Cohn, on Twitter, when he pointed out that the law was patently unconstitutional. But now a federal judge has enjoined it, because there is no One Weird Trick to get around the First Amendment. Did Gov. Cox ever apologize? Links: Nechoice v. Reyes [Docket via Court Listener] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/68097000/netchoice-llc-v-reyes/ Utah Netchoice opinion https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.utd.145120/gov.uscourts.utd.145120.86.0_1.pdf Social Media and Youth Mental Health https://www.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/sg-youth-mental-health-social-media-advisory.pdf Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod

Sep 13, 2024 • 41min
Ep 64 — Debate Debacle Denouement
After Kamala Harris dogwalked Trump in Tuesday’s debate, he’s been melting down on every platform and demanding retribution against ABC. How many ways is that threat BS? All the ways! Meanwhile, it’s not just Taylor Swift who hates Donald Trump. It’s basically every artist on earth. And they’re making their feelings known in court. Finally, subscribers get a look at recent court decisions keeping RFK Jr on and off the ballot. Links: NC Supreme Court Ruling Re RFK Ballot Removal https://appellate.nccourts.org/orders.php?t=P&court=1&id=439795&pdf=1&a=0&docket=1&dev=1 MI Trial Court Ruling Re RFK Ballot Removal https://aboutblaw.com/bfuX ABC Should Be Prosecuted For Illegal Contributions To Harris In ‘Debate’ https://thefederalist.com/2024/09/11/abc-should-be-prosecuted-for-illegal-contributions-to-harris-in-debate/ Hayes v. Trump docket https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.gand.332945/ Hayes v. Trump PI order https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.gand.332945/gov.uscourts.gand.332945.60.0.pdf Trump BMI Music License for Political Entities https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.gand.332945/gov.uscourts.gand.332945.28.2.pdf Musicians Who Oppose Donald Trump (Wikipedia) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musicians_who_oppose_Donald_Trump%27s_use_of_their_music White v. Trump (Docket via Court Listener) https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69144689/white-v-trump/?order_by=desc Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod

Sep 10, 2024 • 54min
Ep 63 — Russia If You’re Listening: The Dipsh*ts Edition
Russia’s been renting out rightwing media influencers in a plot to undermine support for Ukraine, get Trump elected, and undermine American social unity? Say it ain’t so! We’ll break down the Justice Department’s indictment of two Russian agents for setting up a covert operation. And for subscribers, there’s bonus content on the FBI rolling up another Kremlin operation to plant fake news stories using spoofed websites. Links: Merchan delays sentencing https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/25100932/people-v-djt-letter-adjournment-dec-9-6-24.pdf 18 USC § 1956 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1956 FARA, 22 U.S. § 611 et seq. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/22/chapter-11/subchapter-II Kalashnikov Indictment https://www.justice.gov/opa/media/1366266/dl Seizure Warrant affidavit https://www.justice.gov/opa/media/1366261/dl Senate Intelligence Committee Report on Russian Interference in the 2016 election https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/publications/report-select-committee-intelligence-united-states-senate-russian-active-measures Senate Intelligence Committee Report on Russian Interference in the 2016 election, Vol. 1 https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/documents/Report_Volume1.pdf Senate Intelligence Committee Report on Russian Interference in the 2016 election, Vol. 5 https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/documents/report_volume5.pdf Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod

Sep 6, 2024 • 56min
Ep 62 — Elon Musk Is Trying To Break Brazil
Elon Musk claims to be defending free speech by picking a fight with the Brazilian government. But is this about his high minded principles, or his rightwing buddies? We’ll talk to international arbitration lawyer JJ Gass about Musk’s threats to Brazil and its politicians. (Full interview for subscribers.) Links: FSIA 28 U.S.C. § 1605 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/28/1605 28 U.S.C. § 1610 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/28/1610 Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod

Sep 3, 2024 • 48min
Ep 61 — What’s In A Name, Image, Likeness?
It’s deep dive day into the NCAA. How long can it get away with not paying players? And why can’t you buy a Marvin Harrison jersey? Plus, we’ll catch up on the Trump case in DC, along with a subscriber bonus on Trump’s pre-sentencing shenanigans in New York. Links: People of the State of NY v. Trump [Docket via Court Listener] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67326478/people-of-the-state-of-new-york-v-trump/ US v. Trump [DC District Court Docket via Court Listener] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67656604/united-states-v-trump/ Harrison Term Sheet https://trellis.law/doc/212200687/exhibit-s-b-motion-001-binding-term-sheet Harrison lawsuit - docket NY State https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/DocumentList?docketId=pkxwgcifFwH9hi6CEFZ0gw==&display=all&courtType=New%20York%20County%20Supreme%20Court&resultsPageNum=1 Harrison Signatures comparison https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/ViewDocument?docIndex=dINzhEB291So47ULr1tEAA== NCFL By-Laws 12.5.2.1 https://web3.ncaa.org/lsdbi/search/bylawView?id=266#result NCAA v. Alston (2021) https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=7588998090147227883 Fontenot v. NCAA docket https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/68024296/fontenot-v-national-collegiate-athletic-association/ Fontenot complaint https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.cod.229378/gov.uscourts.cod.229378.1.0.pdf House NIL complaint https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/17248915/in-re-college-athlete-nil-litigation/?filed_after=&filed_before=&entry_gte=&entry_lte=&order_by=desc 15 U.S.C. 1 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/15/1 NCAA 2024-2025 Manual and Bylaws https://www.ncaapublications.com/productdownloads/D125.pdf NIL overview https://www.finnegan.com/en/insights/articles/a-beginners-guide-to-ncaa-name-image-and-likeness-rights.html Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod

Aug 30, 2024 • 59min
Ep 60 — Jack Is Back, And Georgia Is Wack
Special Counsel Jack Smith filed a superseding indictment in the election interference case. Time for Trump’s SCOTUS pals to ride to the rescue again! And in Georgia, local election officials are preparing to gum up the works if voters don’t give them what they want. Links: Trump DC superseding indictment https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.258149/gov.uscourts.dcd.258149.226.0_38.pdf Trump DC original indictment https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.258149/gov.uscourts.dcd.258149.1.0_10.pdf US v. Trump (DC) August 8, 2024 status report https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.258149/gov.uscourts.dcd.258149.209.0_3.pdf DOJ 2024 memo EYS https://www.justice.gov/ag/media/1359366/dl DOJ 2012 memo EYS https://www.justice.gov/sites/default/files/oip/legacy/2014/07/23/ag-memo-election-year-sensitivities.pdf DOJ 2008 memo EYS https://www.justice.gov/sites/default/files/ag/legacy/2009/02/10/ag-030508.pdf 5 USC 2374 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/5/7324 June 13, 2019 OSC report Kellyanne Conway https://osc.gov/Documents/Hatch%20Act/Reports/Report%20of%20Prohibited%20Political%20Activity,%20Kellyanne%20Conway%20(HA-19-0631%20%26%20HA-19-3395).pdf?csf=1&e=aMNhry DOJ OIG report June 2018 “A Review of Various Actions by the Federal Bureau of Investigation and Department of Justice in Advance of the 2016 Election” https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/4515884/DOJ-OIG-2016-Election-Final-Report.pdf Trump v. US https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-939_e2pg.pdf Fischer v. US https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-5572_l6hn.pdf Here’s How Pro-Trump Georgia Officials Wrote New Rules to Deny Election Results https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/trump-how-georgia-officials-wrote-rules-deny-election-results-1235089385/ Abhiraman v. State Election Board — Complaint https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/25074852/georgia-state-election-board-rules-lawsuit.pdf Heekin Petition https://sos.ga.gov/sites/default/files/forms/Rule%20Petition%20-%20Heekin_redacted.pdf Grubbs Petition https://sos.ga.gov/sites/default/files/forms/Petition%20-%20Grubbs_Redacted.pdf Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod

Aug 27, 2024 • 1h 9min
Ep 59 — RFK Drops Out, And The Stolen Docs Case Is Back
The stolen documents case is back! Judge Aileen Cannon dismissed the charges against Trump and his goons in July on the theory that special counsels are illegal, and Monday Special Counsel Jack Smith filed his brief to the Eleventh Circuit explaining why she is very obviously wrong. Plus, RFK Jr. dropped out and endorsed Trump. Does that mean he’s off the ballot everywhere? Links: Jack Smith 11th Cir Brief https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.ca11.87822/gov.uscourts.ca11.87822.18.0_1.pdf Trump v. US https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-939_e2pg.pdf 18 USC 599 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/599 ADLF Complaint re: Trump/Carson https://static.politico.com/83/4d/90f795464ab58210ca25aa3a1af7/adlf-complaint.pdf NRS 293.202 https://www.leg.state.nv.us/nrs/nrs-293.html New Yorker profile https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2024/08/12/robert-f-kennedy-jr-profile-presidential-campaign Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod