

Law and Chaos
Liz Dye
Ignorance of the law is no excuse! That’s true for a traffic stop, and it’s true if you want to participate in whatever’s left of American democracy. If the events since the 2016 election taught us anything, it’s that tuning out is not an option. Legal journalists Liz Dye and Andrew Torrez break down the week’s most important courtroom stories, so you can keep on top of this crazy news cycle. Whether it’s Texas giving two middle fingers to the Supreme Court, or Donald Trump in all the courts at once, we’ve got you covered.
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Aug 23, 2024 • 52min
Ep 58 — GOP Officials Working Overtime To Protect The Ballot From The Voters
Abortion is on the ballot in Missouri, Florida, and Arizona, and Republicans are working hard to stop women from controlling the ballot box, and their own bodies. Meanwhile at the Supreme Court, the conservative justices are trying to shave points for Trump in Arizona. And subscribers will hear about shenanigans at the Arkansas Supreme Court to disappear an abortion referendum. Links: MO Constitutional Amendment https://moconstitutionalfreedom.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/Missourians-for-Constitutional-Freedom-Amendment.pdf MO Abortion Amendment Litigation Docket https://www.courts.mo.gov/cnet/cases/newHeader.do?inputVO.caseNumber=24AC-CC06970&inputVO.courtId=SMPDB0004_CT19&inputVO.isTicket=false#docket AZ Abortion Amendment https://apps.arizona.vote/electioninfo/assets/47/0/BallotMeasures/I-05-2024%20Arizona%20for%20Abortion%20Access.pdf AZ Supreme Court Abortion Ruling https://www.azcourts.gov/Portals/0/OpinionFiles/Supreme/2024/ASC-CV240180%20-%208-20-2024%20-%20FILED%20-%20DECISION%20ORDER.pdf ARS 16-121.01 https://www.azleg.gov/ars/16/00121-01.htm ARS 16-166 https://www.azleg.gov/ars/16/00166.htm Arizona v. Inter Tribal Council (2013) https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=8524729836774698956 Application for stay https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/24/24A164/322042/20240808153155295_Emerg.%20App.%20for%20Stay.pdf Appendix & decisions below https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/24/24A164/322042/20240808153230794_Application%20Appendix.pdf ARS 16-127 (federal only) https://www.azleg.gov/ars/16/00127.htm SCOTUS Order https://www.supremecourt.gov/orders/courtorders/082224zr_n75p.pdf AR Supreme Court https://opinions.arcourts.gov/ark/supremecourt/en/522904/1/document.do Arkansas Abortion Amendment https://arkansasadvocate.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/Abortion-Amendment-of-2024.pdf Arkansas Code 7-9-111 https://law.justia.com/codes/arkansas/title-7/chapter-9/subchapter-1/section-7-9-111/ Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod

Aug 20, 2024 • 55min
Ep 57 — Santos Goes to Jail, Disney Goes to Court, and Trump Goes After The Swifties
Former congressman George Santos — an heir to the Romanoff dynasty who discovered molybdenum — pleads guilty in New York. Disney tries to escape a wrongful death suit at its Florida Park because of an arbitration clause in its Disney+ fine print. And Trump claims an endorsement from AI Taylor Swift. What could possibly go wrong? Links: Piccolo Complaint https://www.scribd.com/document/708687171/Raglan-Road-Lawsuit Disney MTC arbitration https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/25041321/disney-arbitration-tangsuan.pdf Plaintiffs’ opposition https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/25041320/disney-piccolo-response-tangsuan.pdf Raglan Road website https://www.raglanroad.com/new-page Disney/Raglan Road website https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/dining/disney-springs/raglan-road-irish-pub-and-restaurant/menus/dinner Disney Terms of Use (2019) https://disneytermsofuse.com/english/ My Disney Experience Terms and Conditions (2023) https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/park-experience-terms-conditions/ Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod

Aug 16, 2024 • 40min
Ep 56 — RFK Jr Is In Trouble, And Not Just With Bears
A New York judge just kicked Robert Kennedy Jr. off the ballot for lying about his residency — a lie he told everywhere else, as well. Could this be the end of his spoiler candidacy? And for subscribers, an exploration of Gov. Ron DeSantis’s weird war on woke meat. Links: 28 U.S.C. § 455 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/28/455 Where RFK Jr. and Independent Candidates Are On The Ballot, New York Times https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/us/politics/presidential-candidates-third-party-independent.html RFK Jr. Notice of Appeal https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/ViewDocument?docIndex=5jx/Kxz1l0wf6TA3ZHfXQg== RFK Jr. Nominating Petition NY https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/ViewDocument?docIndex=jzZhJ0AUNv6uP5etayfLDQ== RFK Jr. FEC Statement of Candidacy https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/ViewDocument?docIndex=2ofcShRVs71csui/f9Yq6g== Petition seeking to invalidate RFK’s Nominating Petition https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/ViewDocument?docIndex=Yj3pUo1J7/4wfQK3LGOnTw== Court’s decision invalidating RFK’s Nominating Petition https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/ViewDocument?docIndex=vdZRqqGAbNUChn_PLUS_iL0Ev_PLUS_A== Upside Foods Inc v. Simpson [Docket via Court Listener] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69038793/upside-foods-inc-v-simpson/ Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod

Aug 13, 2024 • 45min
Ep 55 — Elon Musk Sues Advertisers For GIVE ME MONEY
Twitter filed an antitrust suit against a tiny non-profit trade group and a bunch of big companies for “illegally” boycotting his Nazi bar. To protect free speech! And for subscribers: Did Kamala copy Trump’s plan to cut taxes on tipped compensation? Links: RELEASE: Sen. Ted Cruz’s No Tax on Tips Act Does Little for Low- and Moderate-Wage Workers But Opens Door to Tax Abuse by Wealthy https://www.americanprogress.org/press/release-sen-ted-cruzs-no-tax-on-tips-act-does-little-for-low-and-moderate-wage-workers-but-opens-door-to-tax-abuse-by-wealthy/ It’s Now Impossible to Search Old Trump Tweets on X https://www.mediaite.com/online/its-now-impossible-to-search-old-trump-tweets-on-x/ Duke Really Did Get All The Foul Calls, Washington Post, April 7, 2015 https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fancy-stats/wp/2015/04/07/duke-really-did-get-all-the-foul-calls-in-the-2015-ncaa-tournament/ House Judiciary Committee Interim Report on GARM https://judiciary.house.gov/sites/evo-subsites/republicans-judiciary.house.gov/files/evo-media-document/2024-07-10%20GARMs%20Harm%20-%20How%20the%20Worlds%20Biggest%20Brands%20Seek%20to%20Control%20Online%20Speech.pdf House Judiciary Documents on GARM https://judiciary.house.gov/sites/evo-subsites/republicans-judiciary.house.gov/files/evo-media-document/GARMReportFinalAppendix.pdf GARM Brand Safety Floor https://wfanet.org/l/library/download/urn:uuid:7d484745-41cd-4cce-a1b9-a1b4e30928ea WFA 2023 Annual Report https://wfanet.org/l/library/download/urn:uuid:0580b3a0-e365-4d61-b5cd-6d9d2e2557f2/2023+wfa+annual+report.pdf?redirected=1723422670 GDI Disinformation Risk Assessment: The Online News Market in the United States https://www.disinformationindex.org/country-studies/2022-12-16-disinformation-risk-assessment-the-online-news-market-in-the-united-states/ X v. WFA complaint https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.txnd.393003/gov.uscourts.txnd.393003.1.0_2.pdf FTC on Group Boycotts https://www.ftc.gov/advice-guidance/competition-guidance/guide-antitrust-laws/dealings-competitors/group-boycotts 15 U.S.C. § 1 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/15/1 FTC v. Superior Ct. Trial Lawyers Ass’n, 493 U.S. 411 (1990) https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=7145214033986459725 NAACP v. Claiborne Hardware Co., 458 U.S. 886 https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=7271075303659098319 Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod

Aug 9, 2024 • 51min
Ep 54 — Tim Walz Does The Dang Work
Minnesota Governor Tim Walz accomplished more in one legislative term than most politicians do in a lifetime. Can he do the same for the country? We take a deep dive into some of the laws he championed in Minnesota. Is this … optimism??? Links: Louisiana Will Get The Ten Commandments Into Schools If They Have To Break 'Em All To Do It https://www.lawandchaospod.com/p/louisiana-will-get-the-ten-commandments Idaho Stat. 18-623 https://legislature.idaho.gov/statutesrules/idstat/title18/t18ch6/sect18-623/ Idaho Stat. 18-8807 https://legislature.idaho.gov/statutesrules/idstat/title18/t18ch88/sect18-8807/ Minnesota Reproductive Freedom Defense Act https://www.revisor.mn.gov/bills/text.php?number=HF366&session_year=2023&session_number=0&version=latest Minnesota HF5 (School Meals) https://www.revisor.mn.gov/bills/text.php?number=HF0005&session=ls93&version=latest&session_number=0&session_year=2023 The ‘Swift Boating’ of Tim Walz has begun. What is the truth? https://taskandpurpose.com/news/swift-boat-walz/ Minnesota Felon Voting Rights Opinion https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/25035780-minnesota-felon-voting-opinion Minnesota Felon Voting Rights Complaint https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/25035775-minnesota-felon-voting-rights-complaint Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod

Aug 6, 2024 • 1h 2min
Ep 53 — Trump’s Election Interference Case Is Back Just In Time For The Next Election
The Trump election interference case is finally back from getting beat to hell by the Supreme Court. What’s left after the disastrous immunity decision? And will the Supreme Court accept Mark Meadows’ invitation to do even more damage to the Republic in a naked bid to protect Trump’s cronies? Links: Trump v. US Immunity Decisions https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-939_e2pg.pdf US v. Trump District Court Docket via Court Listener https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67656595/united-states-v-trump/ Fischer v. US (2024) https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/23pdf/23-5572_l6hn.pdf 18 USC § 1512 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1512 Meadows cert petition https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/24/24-97/321049/20240729152205890_2024-07-26%20Meadows%20Cert%20Petition%20FINAL.pdf Ex parte Garland (1866) https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=2981583583221536357 28 USC § 1442 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/28/1442 28 USC § 1455 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/28/1455 Teaching History on Aaron Burr https://teachinghistory.org/history-content/ask-a-historian/24404 Aaron Burr murder indictment in New Jersey https://founders.archives.gov/documents/Hamilton/01-26-02-0001-0281 Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod

Aug 2, 2024 • 1h 3min
Ep 52 — Utah Supreme Court Casts Major Shade On Sam Alito
The Utah Supreme Court will not be LARPing as amateur historians, no matter what nonsense Justices Thomas and Alito get up to. The state’s highest court upholds an injunction blocking an abortion ban. And we’ll check in on Rudy Giuliani’s ignominious exit from bankruptcy, along with Project 2025’s implosion. Have rumors of the manifesto’s demise been greatly exaggerated? Links: Gina Carano's Trollsuit Against Disney Lives To Fight Another Day https://www.lawandchaospod.com/p/gina-caranos-trollsuit-against-disney Roake v. Brumley - LA Ten Commandments docket https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/68879768/roake-v-brumley/ Planned Parenthood Association of Utah v. Utah https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/25023061/pp-utah.pdf Giuliani Bankruptcy Docket https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/68108037/rudolph-w-giuliani/ NY Denial of Trump Gag Order Appeal https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/25023087-ny-appeals-ruling-on-trump-gag-order The Man Behind Project 2025’s Most Radical Plans https://www.propublica.org/article/project-2025-trump-campaign-heritage-foundation-paul-dans Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod

Jul 30, 2024 • 55min
Ep 51 — Supreme Court Reform: First They Say You’re Crazy, Then They Fight You…
Missouri Attorney General Andy Bailey, known for his controversial legal stances, discusses President Biden's op-ed calling for Supreme Court reform. They debate whether justices should be reassigned to 'minor leagues' to address the Court's legitimacy crisis. Bailey also defends his role in keeping an innocent man imprisoned, citing a 'tough on crime' policy perspective. The conversation delves into systemic biases within the justice system and the urgent need for strategic judicial reforms, emphasizing term limits and ethical guidelines for justices.

Jul 26, 2024 • 53min
Ep 50 — Project 2025: Yes, It Is THAT BAD
Project 2025 pushes a radical agenda to reshape America into a Christian nationalist state. The hosts dissect bizarre policy proposals, like criminalizing LGBTQ+ rights and undermining civil service protections. They critique the notion that traditional marriage can solve societal issues, while also tackling the alarming rollback of diversity, equity, and inclusion initiatives. Environmental policies face scrutiny, particularly regarding wildfire management and the treatment of public lands. Historical parallels to political scandals enrich the discussion on the evolving civil service implications.

Jul 23, 2024 • 1h 1min
Ep 49 — Biden Bows Out, Kamala Sharpens Her Coconuts, and the GOP Gets Ready to Ratf—
Biden is out, Kamala is all but in, and the GOP is freaking out. We’ll break down potential Republican legal challenges to a Harris candidacy. Subscribers will get an extended curbstomping of Jonathan Turley’s galaxy brain plan to 25th Amendment Biden out of the last six months of his term. Links: Louisiana notice of compliance https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.lamd.64943/gov.uscourts.lamd.64943.32.0.pdf DNC 2024 Call For the DNC https://democrats.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/2024-Call-for-Convention.pdf DNC 2024 Delegate Selection Rules https://democrats.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/2024-Delegate-Selection-Rules.pdf DNC Charter and bylaws https://democrats.org/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/DNC-Charter-Bylaws-03.12.2022.pdf 25th Amendment https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/amendmentxxv Constitution, Art. II, Section 1, Cl. 6 (“Succession Clause”) https://constitution.congress.gov/browse/essay/artII-S1-C6-1/ALDE_00013693/ 3 USC § 19 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/3/19 52 USC § 30102 https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/52/30102 11 CFR § 103.4 https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/11/103.4 Revised FEC Form 1 “Harris for President” https://docquery.fec.gov/cgi-bin/forms/C00703975/1805326// Heritage Foundation June 21 memo https://x.com/OversightPR/status/1805239354505257196 Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod