Law and Chaos

Should the government be able to order social media platforms to host political speech? Does the First Amendment even exist any more? And do we really have to side with Justice Kavanaugh on this one? Liz talks to TechFreedom’s Corbin Barthold about the Netchoice cases.    Links: Tech Policy Podcast ​​https://podcast.techfreedom.org/  Moody v. Netchoice (Texas Docket) https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/docketfiles/html/public/22-555.html Moody v. Netchoice (Florida Docket) https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/docketfiles/html/public/22-277.html  TechFreedom’s Amicus Brief in Netchoice https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/22/22-555/292534/20231207074245073_TechFreedom%20VIDED%20amicus%20brief%2022-277%2022-555.pdf Oral Argument Moody v. Netchoice (Florida case) https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/audio/2023/22-277 Oral Argument Moody v. Netchoice (Texas case) https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/audio/2023/22-555    Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod  

Liz talks to national security law expert Kel McClanahan about the Trump documents case in Florida and how he could use classified materials to derail the trial until after the election.   Links: SCOTUS Order Granting Cert on Trump Immunity Claim https://www.supremecourt.gov/orders/courtorders/022824zr3_febh.pdf US v. Trump [SDFL Docket via Court Listener] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67490070/united-states-v-trump/  Classified Information Procedures Act https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?path=/prelim@title18/title18a/node16&edition=prelim   Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod  

Liz talks to repro law expert Ellen Trachman, host of the podcast “I Want to Put a Baby in You” about the recent Alabama decision which functionally outlaws in vitro fertilization. Is this the beginning of a trend, or will Republicans course correct out of fear of the wrath of women voters?   Links: Ellen Trachman at Above the Law https://abovethelaw.com/author/ellentrachman/ The “I Want to Put a Baby In You” Podcast https://iwanttoputababyinyou.com/ Alabama IVF ruling https://publicportal-api.alappeals.gov/courts/68f021c4-6a44-4735-9a76-5360b2e8af13/cms/case/343d203a-b13d-463a-8176-c46e3ae4f695/docketentrydocuments/e3d95592-3cbe-4384-afa6-063d4595aa1d  Ala. Code § 26-23H-3 https://casetext.com/statute/code-of-alabama/title-26-infants-and-incompetents/chapter-23h-the-alabama-human-life-protection-act/section-26-23h-3-definitions  Resolve Advocacy Day May 14 for the National Infertility Association https://resolve.org/events/advocacy-day/  Trump Civil Fraud Judgment https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/ViewDocument?docIndex=nXeA3RG/pYddgehBHovUPw== Carroll v. Trump, Docket via Court Listener https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/18418220/carroll-v-trump/  Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod

Liz talks to reporter Brandi Buchman about the prosecutions of the Proud Boys and the Oath Keepers for seditious conspiracy and how those prosecutions paved the way for Trump’s election interference case.    Links: In Re: Lindell Management LLC Litigation [Docket via Court Listener] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67410449/in-re-lindell-management-llc-litigation/ Brandi Buchman at Law and Crime https://lawandcrime.com/author/brandi-buchman/ US v. Trump [District DC Docket via Court Listener] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67891889/united-states-v-donald-trump/  US v. Trump [SDFL Docket via Court Listener] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67490069/united-states-v-trump/  Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod  

Liz talks to Daily Beast reporter Jose Pagliery about the $355 million verdict that’s really a $450 million verdict in Trump’s civil fraud trial. Plus the Carroll defamation suits, and the upcoming criminal trial in March for falsifying records to cover up the Stormy Daniels payoff. And … the state of American democracy! Justice Engoron Holding https://eddsa.blob.core.usgovcloudapi.net/public/452564_2022_PEOPLE_OF_THE_STATE_OF_v_PEOPLE_OF_THE_STATE_OF_DECISION_AFTER_TRIAL_1688.pdf  Justice Merchan Holding https://www.nycourts.gov/LegacyPDFS/press/PDFs/People-v-DonaldTrump2-15-24Decision.pdf Trump’s Bank Fraud Trial Ends With $364 Million Gut Punch, by Jose Pagliery at The Daily Beast https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps-bank-fraud-trial-ends-with-dollar372-million-gut-punch?ref=author Judge Rules Full Speed Ahead on Trump’s Manhattan Criminal Trial, by Jose Pagliery at The Daily Beast https://www.thedailybeast.com/judge-rules-full-speed-ahead-on-trumps-manhattan-criminal-trial?ref=author?ref=author Carroll v. Trump I [District Court Docket via Court Listener] Carroll v. Trump II [District Court Docket via Court Listener] Carroll v. Trump II [Circuit Court Docket via Court Listener]   Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod  

With Trump’s ballot disqualification on the docket, all eyes were on SCOTUS last week. Liz talks about the argument at the Supreme Court with guest Eric Segall, and lays out the various off-ramps the justices might take to keep a criminal insurrectionist on the ballot this November. “Originalism as Faith” by Eric Segall https://www.amazon.com/Originalism-as-Faith-Eric-Segall/dp/1316640469  “Supreme Myths: Why the Supreme Court Is Not a Court and Its Justices Are Not Judges” by Eric Segall https://www.amazon.com/Supreme-Myths-Court-Justices-Judges-ebook/dp/B0C775Z6CP?ref_=ast_author_mpb  Trump v. Anderson, SCOTUS Docket https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/docketfiles/html/public/23-719.html Trump v. Anderson, Argument Audio and Transcript https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/audio/2023/23-719 Foley/Ginsberg/Hasen Amicus Brief https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/23/23-719/297014/20240118112848137_23-719.Amicus.Foley.Ginsberg.Hasen.pdf “Fake GOP Electors Meet To Cast Fake Votes For President Real Loser” at Wonkette https://www.wonkette.com/p/fake-gop-electors-meet-to-cast-fake-votes-for-president-real-loser  Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod  

After allegations that Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis is romantically involved with the special prosecutor hired by her office, the sharks are circling both legally and politically. Is this case totally boned? Liz asks Georgia defense attorney Andrew Fleischman what’s next in this crucial election interference case.   Show Links:   Fulton County Docket: State of Georgia v. Donald J. Trump https://www.fultonclerk.org/DocumentCenter/Index/142    What Fani Willis Got Wrong in Her Trump Indictment, by Andrew Fleischman https://www.nytimes.com/2023/08/29/opinion/fani-willis-trump-indictment-georgia.html    Sessions & Fleischman https://www.thesessionslawfirm.com/attorneys/andrew-fleischman/   Pressure on Fulton DA grows as critics seize on allegations of impropriety https://www.ajc.com/politics/pressure-on-willis-grows-as-critics-seize-on-allegations-of-impropriety/NC7XFRX2K5AIZL73GYPY2JPM2Y/    Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod  

Description: Liz hosts former federal prosecutor Mitchell Epner to discuss last week’s massive $83 million damage award in the second E. Jean Carroll defamation case. What happens when he appeals? Was it smart for Trump to testify? And WTF is up with his lawyers?    Show links: Carroll v. Trump I [District Court Docket via Court Listener] Carroll v. Trump II [District Court Docket via Court Listener] Carroll v. Trump II [Circuit Court Docket via Court Listener]   Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod  

Ignorance of the law is no excuse! That’s true for a traffic stop, and it’s true if you want to participate in whatever’s left of American democracy. If the events since the 2016 election taught us anything, it’s that tuning out is not an option. Legal journalist Liz Dye breaks down the week’s most important courtroom stories, so you can keep on top of this crazy news cycle.